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learned. i learned that bernie sanders just doing things that nobody's done before, raising a lot of money, small donors. average $27 per donor over the last quarter. >> it's incredible. >> raised what, $30 million that way? >> a lot of money. >> that's unbelievable man. that is a movement. that is a revolution. i'm kind of feeling the burn. >> "msnbc live" is up next. have a great day. >> right now on msnbc, they are off and the race is on. candidates beginning their final sprint toward the iowa caucuses with 40 campaign events scheduled just for today. there are new attacks, new rhetoric and new tv ads. donald trump releasing his first tv ad earlier this morning. that spot seems to bypass his republican challengers and go straight to the general election. >> the politics can
pretend it's something else, but donald trump
calls it radical islamic terrorism. that's why he's calling for a temporary shutdown of muslims entering the united states until we can figure out what is going on. he'll quickly cut the head off isis and take their oil. he'll start illegal immigration by building a wall on our southern border that mexico will pay for. >> trump is promising to spend $2 million a week on ads in
the run-up to iowa. he's also ramping up criticism of ted cruz and hillary clinton. good to be with you this monday, the first monday of what is finally election year. the iowa caucuses just 28 days away and the stakes could not be higher. we have our political team here with me and out on the trail. kristen welker is in new hampshire, hallie jackson in new hampshire and steve, we begin with you. starting with this ad when it comes to donald trump, simple,
direct. some say offensive, kind of culminating all his most controversial words and message. your take on the content and tone? >> simple, direct. that is donald trump, isn't it? you look at the themes this ad gets across. you look at some of the language that it uses. this is word for word what donald trump has been saying, the points he's been pressing, the issues he's been touting on the campaign trail. this is running in iowa, this is running in new hampshire. this is a candidate who has givbeen doing very well in the national polls, continues to lead nationally, continues to lead in new hampshire. but he's hit a bunch of a speed bump, falling behind ted cruz out there. there's certainly a lot of potential threats looming so it's time to start spending money on these ads. >> the first one we're seeing today.
kristen in new hampshire with hillary clinton on this pivotal day when weir seeing bill clinton on the campaign trail today. how will the clinton campaign think this conversation is going to play for them and are we going to see bill clinton specifically or hear from him today, even make a mention of trump? >> well, he might mention trump but he's certainly not going to engage with him over the criticism. of course donald trump has been just criticizing him relentlessly offer his past sexual transgressions. the clintons' strategy said they're going to stick to the issues they want to talk about, like the economy. hillary clinton has been slamming donald trump for his controversial comments over muslims and a number of other issues. so i think that's the strategy that the clinton campaign is going to take. of course former bill clinton
does come with some pros and some cons. also you'll recall back m 2008, he did have some missteps while on the campaign trail. tack a look at this recent bloom bowl poll. his unstafrls at 34%. they think the costs far outweigh the ben fits, particularly in a state like new hampshire. alts jump ball here in new hampshire. if senator hillary clinton can lock up this nomination, he could -- if hillary clinton loses new hampshire, she could explain that loss but losing iowa would be absolutely def stating. that's where he's going to be. >> we have to consider here, this is the evangelical vote.
there, a. is he really that scared of losing iowa and this is his way of going about it? >> potentially. he is appealing to, as you talked about, ted cruz's message plays as well well with them here. a little bit he had been. over the weekend we heard donald trump for maybe the third or fourth time bring up not a lot of evangelicals come out of cuba. he also talked a little bit about ted cruz and marco rubio when it comes to immigration. listen to what he said just yesterday. >> ted cruz is trying to step up his whole game on amnesty and on illegal immigration because it was actually quite weak. you listen to him and marco rubio, they're trying to solve the problems that they've had in
the past because they were both weak on it and have i been very strong on it. >>. >> reporter: so the question is how and if ted cruz will respond to that, what you could call a ayou have to prove to iowa voters that he is not teaking granted, mike huckabee, rim sar ton um, hes the money to -- steve to you now. with the clock ticking days before iowa there, a final month. what are we going to see as far as des praet the establish with the gop establishment. somebody's saying here are my blinkers, i'm going to get out
of my lane and this is where it gets different doing so. >> you look at the difference so if ted cruise, i think clearly the favorite there, dom in second. maybe there's a possibility that one what marco rubin' is not that he can necessarily win the state but that he would do well enough that he would -- that's christie, that's kasich and that's rubio, all of them in that so-called establishment lane right now. you take a poll in new hampshire, it's basically a four-way tie for second place among them. they're all about 10, 11, 12%. if you add those votes together, it would be enough to beat donald trump in new hampshire, or at least give him a run up there. but right now because that vote is so divided, trump is dominating in new hampshire. so the real battle that i see
those four candidates in new hampshire trying to dwisht themselves grab that establishment vote and maybe knock him off. modern history -- rules are made to be broken but modern history says if you don'tput a win on the board in iowa or new hampshire, you're not going to win the nomination. >> oh, man. off to the races and rear. >> with that time just weeks to go before votes begin, we have a new look at the 2016 electorate. nbc news has team ld up with survey monkey to find out how frustrated americans are this 49% of merps are angrier today about corn events than they were a year ago.
>> with me now is chuck todd and also the senior editor at esquire magazine. let's start digging in about the anger. is it mainly because the u.s. sachs americans are so angry and there isn't a central reason behind it. this is the brain child of richard and his team attes kwarks which is there' among african-americans to let's look at what's be over there the anti-government fervor. so there is a lot people feel as if america's not as strong as it was around the world, the american dream is not what it was.
so it is sort of -- it's a poll but the tough thing is it's not one thing. >> seeing how the candidates are playing into that saying i can be the guy to fix it but talk about that in a second. but in talking about the break down here, especially when it comes to graphics and pent ber. >> so when you have the candidates out there and they are a. >> you know what, this is how we need to send our message out, to speak to this ainge or. >> let start with -- exist anymore, they believe the american leadership isn't strong as it would be and believe their lives didn't turn out as good. wlup hear donald trump appealing to the vofrters with the thens sense we're not going to be
losers anymore i'm going to see them respond. >> how can the other candidates be able to receipt and when people talk about channelling reagan or even channelling bill clinton at their best days, what they were all go things are going to get better. things can get better. instead we're in a cycle where we have a series of candidates mostly who just want to channel frustration. and they don't -- and maybe the electorate, that's what the electorate wants. and even jeb bush, trying to be these apartment ex-he's such a
politician. he's seen this road show before. >> at this stage of the game, it's the happy warrior. on the democratic side, you have bernie sanders. he knows everybody is angry about income inequality. republicans tend to glam globalization. democrats beef it's wall street and they believe it the financial institutions really short changing them and that's what bernie sanders is owling about. >> what's the collective in whether on the right it's they all believe the whole system is right. >> we'll see how that turns out and translates to vote when it comes to the it and i know we've all going to be very bitty. >> see you at 5:00.
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erupted in protest after the cleric and dozens of others were put to desk, attacking and burning the saudi embassy in tehran. the saudis responded by recalling its personnel and ordering iranian diplomats to go home, deepening the divide between the gulf's two most powerful nations. we have all angles here. to all of you, i appreciate it. it seems like the next step in this proxy war that's been going on between these two nations for a while. talk about what appears to be the inevitability of something like this happening. >> reporter: yes, it does seem like this proxy war has been ratcheted up a few notches. they're diametrically opposed
from the price of oil to president bashar. this time it seems a lot more serious. we have to take into consideration the proxy war they're having in syria, in iraq, in yemen, in bahrain. they see the political landscape here very differently to one another. the danger is as tensions between saudi arabia and iran get worse, the violence in these countries will probably escalate even further. the other complicating matter here is that iran and saudi arabia, the two major islamic power houses in the region, one shi'a, one sunni have been sitting around the negotiating tables with world powers trying to bring an end to the violence in syria. this is going to infinitely complicate that matter, much more than it has before.
i don't see irani and saudi diplomats sitting around the table soon with one another and trying to work it out. they are hardliners who are happy to walk away from each other and let syria stay the way it is because it suits their political purposes for now. so the real victim in this fallout twbetween saudi and ira are going to be the countries in this region that are involved in this proxy war between iran and saudi arabia. >> certainly we are seeing that backlash. >> and ayman to you, do you think that saudi arabia field to even anticipate this kind of backlash? >> i think in the run-up to the execution, there was a lot of warning, a lot of international organizations, human rights organizations, criticize saudi arabia for the judicial process that led to this execution, ultimately the trial.
i think in terms of the backlash, there's the official reactions that we're hearing perhaps in the united states as well as from the official iranian government, but also the street protests. i don't think they anticipated the street protests that what we're seeing in tehran and other parts of the arab world and elsewhere. so for them, i think they have been a little blindsided by not just how popular he was but how much people would be willing to go to the streets. >> this could possibly spiral. let's talk about that, especially with the background with the divide here, and could escalate into civil war in the community. >> i think that's always a possibility. it's always a possibility, a sectarian civil war. it's between saudi arabia and
iran it's more a persian-arab issue than it is a sunni-shi'a issue. i think there is a lot of competition for power and competition for influence in the region and there's a resentment on the arab part of iran's influence and power as a persian state. >> let's talk about this, especially when it comes to the united states and having allies with saudi arabia and the fallout with the other countries as well. but especially with the united states and the role we play here, ayman. >> there's no doubt the u.s. is a big supporter of the saudi monarchy, providing billions in weapons to continue the operations in yemen. but the united states now has a very strategic interest with iran, and that is the nuclear deal. they certainly want to have iran sitting around the negotiating table to try to resolve some of the conflicts between the
various groups inside syria, inside yemen. iran is a key supporter of the governor in iraq. the united states is very aware that for its own interest in the region, it has to have some kind of dialogue with iran. it cannot afford to lose iran but at the same time it knows saudi arabia has been a cornerstone pillar of its security policy. >> we are hearing from the 2016 candidates, specifically hillary clinton saying this. take a listen. >> we have to keep doing everything we can to try to influence their behavior because personally i think this is counterproductive for them. this will enflame the region even more and i think cause more dissent and more upheaval in saudi arabia. >> i think ayman is right about iran and the united states. certainly outside of the nuclear issue, which has been basically resolved at this point, for the
united states the interests in syria and the region in general, the interests for the united states for there to be a resolution to the syrian crisis and the europeans as well and to the yemen crisis is paramount. none of those are going to be resolved without iran. there's a definite feeling on the american side, i believe, that they have to deal with iran, whether we like it or not. and this is going to be a problem now because as ayman pointed out, we are allies with saudi arabia, who do not want to deal with iran under any circumstances and resent iran coming in from the cold, resent the nuclear deal, resent america talking to iran and iran being at the table in the syrian talks. what would happen next? i would assume between the russians and americans there will be a lot of pressure on the saudis and iranians to patch up their differences, at least to the extent that they can then sit down and talk again. >> we'll see how that happens.
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legislationive branch. the country will not stand for it. as you might expect, the president getting sharp criticism from 2016 republican hopefuls. >> now this president wants to act as if he's a king, a dictator. if he wants to make changes in these laws, go to congress and convince the congress that they're necessary. >> he's going to sign another executive order having to do with the second amendment, having to do with guns. i will veto that. i will unsign that so fast. >> his first impulse always is to right rights away from law-abiding citizens and it's wrong. >> we have the story surrounded. we are joined by chris jansing and pete williams. chris, besides loretta lynch, who else will be there? >> this isfrances, with the key people who have been involved when the president tasked them with the idea of
looking into what congressional action he might take in lieu of -- we know a little bit about some of the proposals that are going to be made. the key one is going to be essentially increase background checks. how will they do that? by expanding essentially what the definition is of a gun dealer. people who occasionally sell at gun shows would now also be required to follow the same regulations, as if you walked into a regular gun store. improve reporting and of lost and stolen weapons is something that we know is under consideration. it's reported they'll target criminals who attempt to buy illegal guns. and in a radio address over the weekend, the president said, frankly, a lot of this was pushed by the fact that he gets
letters from parents, from children, from school teach who are say they want something done here. usually in the case of a mass shooting as in san bernardino, there's a sense of empowerment to people who want changes in gun laws. because of the terrorist aspect of what happened in san bernardino, there are in fact indications that people have less support for changing gun laws. in fact, there was a recent poll that more people thought that allowing people to carry guns legally was a better response to terrorism than stricter gun control laws. having said this, since this is not about congressional action, this is something that the president is determined to do, it has been one of the great disappointments of this administration, but as you saw, there's a lot of push back from republicans. we heard some of it about the slippery slope. but also continuing questions as we've seen before with these executive actions, frances, about whether or not he has the legal and constitutional right to do it.
>> chris, hang tight with me as we want to bring you breaking news, the first trading day of 2016 said to be off to a rocky stop, slow growth and volatile markets in china and geo political angst in the middle east may be affecting the market, down now 240, 250 and counting. this has we're watching this start of trading day in the new year. again, it has reappeared at the start of the new year prompting a global stock sell off as far as the volatile markets in asia. we'll continue to follow this as the markets continue to drop now down 259. and now 266. i want to turn back to pete williams in talking about the first order of business for the president in coming back to work and talk about the legal ramifications. we've seen the legal fight in the past, we expect it again, even with some backlash politically, with some fellow
democrats as well to be considered by the president. >> it depends not only on what he does but how he does it. one example is looking at the court battle we're going on now about the president's immigration plan to allow some people to stay here in america, despite the fact that they are here illegally. that court ruling is based on how he did it, not so much what he did. if, for example, this is subject for immediate reaction -- no matter what he does, there's going to be a court challenge. if he does it immediately, that's one thing. if he subjects it to rule content and public comment, that's another. if you put that graphic back up of the steps that the president is considering taking, the last one on that list was prosecute people who attempt to buy i think -- a better way to sigh it might be attempt to buy guns illegally. that is to say, people who go in
and buy a gun for someone else, make a straw purchase or someone who lies on the background check. those have been hard cases for aff, fed prosecutors to make. if the president encourage them to they can do it. >> thank you very much. >> you bet. >> president obama is getting back to work today. again, as we mentioned gun control as we continue to follow that. but also as he talks about that, i want to bring in now our next guest. he is colin goddard who is joining us now. as we talk about this, president obama met privately with your group earlier. of course this group spearheaded by former new york mayor michael bloomberg. what specifically would you like to see as far as changes made now with the president talking about executive action and gun
control? >> well, thanks. there's a variety of things that president obama can do. closing loopholes, not entirely, but making them smaller. the focus i want to talk about is defining what it means to be in the business of selling fiermt. that is this kind of legal gray area that allows people to sell high-volume guns that end up a lot in crime scene and guns that are trafficked to other states. so while not closing it entirely, he need congress to take action. and enforce the laws we already have on the books. i think that's a specific item the president can take here that will do a great number in reducing the 88 people who are killed and the hundreds more who are shot every single day. >> here the president calls for an act in congress as well with their participation. we know how that ended in the
past. we heard from a spokesperson for house speaker paul ryan, he said some of these wouldn't have prevented the. >> we should not set national public policy, you should look at the problem in its entirety and find out how can you make the most good. i find it incredibly ironic, the prowse is criticizing the house has done absolutely nothing on this issue for years. not even a subcommit on the house judiciary committee for example. nothing. i think the vast majority see the president having to struggle with the congress, that he's doing nothing on this issue and inspired that. >> i appreciate you being with me. >> thanks for having me. >> the opening bell rang on wall street just a few moments ago
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he's unstoppable? >> he'd be in tremendous shape. i wouldn't say unstoppable, anything can happen in politics. if you look back on february 10th, the day after the new hampshire primary and donald trump won that. he was able to get those people to come caucus for him or vote for him in new hampshire. another key for donald trump would be just to be able to -- if the establishment was unable to beat him. and third and most importantly that donald trump really did tap into the id of the republican party, i think that new ad he's running on immigration, his temporary ban on muslims entering the country, i think it would signify that. of course we have a long ways to go. ted cruz is in the driver's seat in iowa. if donald trump ends up winning
in aye wand and new hampshire, you can take those as reasons why. >> so donald trump does win. can anything other than first place wins be considered for ted cruz or marco rubio somewhat of a victory? >> sure. right now the two of them are really slugging it out in new hampshire for second place. they're far behind trump. mark is absolutely right. we haven't seen if trump has been able to get these people to vote. if he does, that second place in new hampshire really could be a ticket for the trump alternative candidate. it does remain to be seen. i think cuff imagine the establishment is going to uptick some attacks against trump, if he sayles through iowa and new hampshire. so they can slow his role going into south carolina and florida. >> let's talk about hillary clinton. if she loses iowa, what does that say about the state of the democratic party, coming off president obama and the eight-year presidency? >> it hillary clinton loses iowa, there will be a big panic
button press in the entire democratic party. which has lined up a majority of elected senators, members of congress. the democrat being firmly behind the candidate. you can say the democratic party is more fractured than many people thought was possible in the eighth year of the obama presidency. you end up having hillary clinton, who is largely kind of running as barack obama's heir. she's made some differences with him but essentially has embraced brauk's agenda and wants to tinker with them at the margins. bernie sanders looks for a resolution. so you can how the bill clinton factor comes into play with him campaigns as well today. thank you.
>> a tense situation unfolding right now out west. a group of protesters has taken over a federal building vowing to stay put indefinitely. dwight and steve hammond, are two oregon ranchers facing jailtime for -- msnbc has covered this kind of public land clash before. first we want to get live to oregon and scott cohen with a breakdown on what these protesters are notwithstanding and demanding. they said they want these land, this 175 rescue. the refuge has been in federal
hands since early in the 20th century. while the protesters are the one who is have taken over apparently multi-. federal buildings, they say they're the ones who are on the right side of the law. >> we're here only to promote the constitution, the supreme law of the land and to help the people reestablish their rights. >> i'd like to say that let us be civil and let us be as jntle as possible but we shall be as firm as necessary. >> the group says that they do not plan to be violent unless the government is violent. the fbi and local authorities say they also are hoping for a peaceful solution. nonetheless local schools are have been closed through this week and this community remains very much on edge. >> appreciate that. >> my annette calls for it to be
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instead of casting a wide net, raids will just target adult and children previously caught trying to enter the united states illegally or those ordered to leave at some point over the last two years. and even before the operations began, the 2016 candidates were already weighing in. donald trump tweeted that the raids are being launched because of pressure from him. he also tweeted "it's about time." but all three democratic contenders have expressed concerns abouts raids. bernie sanders said they were disturbing while martin o'malley said they should only be carried out as a lart resort. >> allen, thanks for with. why is this happening now? >> because we're continuing to a
new if you remember in the summer of 2014, we saw thens of from there, a lot of them minors. that's what really sparked the big immigration debate that summer. now we are starting to see those numbers shoot back up again. in october/november, we saw over 20,000 people coming from those places, a lot of them -- half of them minors. that's double what we saw last year during that same time period. so the obama administration is under a lot of pressure on how to deal with them. they've been holding them in family detention centers. they've been ordered by a judge to stop doing that. they're being told by people on the right that they really have to start deporting them, on the left immigration advocates are saying they should be treated more like refugees instead of regular undocumented immigrants. they are getting pressure on all those sites to figure out what to do. the answer right now which isn't pleasing anybody is to start
clamping down on those folks who already have the deportation orders. >> when the surge started in the past year and talk about the reason why, part of the concern is that many of these people and families were fleeing horrific violence in those countries, honduras, el salvador, guatemala. but the concern here is the argument is that by sending them back they'll just go back into that danger, back into that violence that they were fleeing. >> yeah. that's what's remarkable about this surge. over the last couple of decades, mexicans have completely dominate the undocumented imgrant population in this country. mostly economic migrants coming here to look for work but they've slowed down coming here and a lot of them are actually going back to mexico now, more of them that are coming here. but what we have in honduras, guatemala and el salvador is more of a profile of a refugee because those three countries are in the top six in the world when it comes to homicide rate. el salvador has the highest
homicide rate in 40 or 50 years, since their civil wars. the ting that's getting so dramatically difficult over there but we've struggled to keep up with that changing face of what those migrants look like. there's more refugee asylum claims that have to be heard and the government has really struggled to figure out how to handle that, how to get more immigration judges to hear their cases. right now i think 75% of these people who are coming over don't even have a lawyer appointed to them when they go through that process. so most -- the vast majority of them end up getting deported. this he don't get any refugee status so that's making it very difficult so a lot of those folks are continuing to come but it makes it difficult for us to just send them right back into such a dangerous situation. >> appreciate your being with me, thank you very much. with the new year, old man winter has realized it is time to wake up the northeast. today cities like new york city will dip below 32 degrees for the first time since early april. windchills and low temps will feel really cold for those who enjoyed a pretty mild winter but not cold enough to issue any
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28 days to the iowa caucuses and it is a full-out sprint as the candidates hit the ground running in 2016. our reporters are fanned out all along the campaign trail. we'll check in with them. also, president obama back to work today holding meetings on what he can do about gun control without congressional approval. and watching wall street, a half-hour into trading there, the dow down nearly 2%. negative 344 here as we watch it throughout the morning. to truly feel healthy on the outside
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new year with his first television ad. it is simple, it is direct, and some may find it offensive. here it is. >> the politicians can
pretend it's something else, but donald trump calls it radical islamic terrorism. that's why he's calling for a temporary shutdown of muslims entering the united states until we can figure out what's going on. he'll quickly cut the head off isis and take their oil, and he'll stop illegal immigration by building a wall on our southern border that mexico will pay for. >> good to be with you for the second hour of msnbc live. i'm francis res rivera in for j diaz-balart. politics is our top story this morning so let's get right to you are o team. hallie jackson is on the ted cruz bus tour in iowa. you see the bus is in motion. also kristin welker, new hampshire. also steve kornacki with me here in new york. steve, get started here with you. lot of people talking about that trump ad, the first one we've
seen. some may say in about 30 seconds that sums up donald trump and his message. >> it really does, doesn't it? you think of all the attention he's gotten the last six months, the buttons he's been pushing, issues he's been stressing and the way he talks about those issues, it's all in those ad, talks about cutting the head off isis, building the waulll, addi the line about making mexico pay for it. it is not just the proposal to temporarily ban muslims from the united states -- until we can figure out what's going on. a vague open-ended definition. that's how trump talks about this. really this is in a nutshell the rise of donald trump. the last six months, this is what he's been talking about. now he's putting it to a tv ad. it is running in iowa, it is running in new hampshire. one thing to keep in mind is we pay attention so much to the national polls where donald trump is 15, 20 points ahead of everyone else. it does look a little different in iowa. he's fallen to second. in new hampshire he's still in first place but that's where all the other candidates are focusing their attention.
chris christie is holding town halls there constantly. kasich, bush, spending money there, rubio's there. so trump is feeling the heat a little bit in those early states. >> also we'll see what those other ad say that he'll spend big some say in those crucial states. kristin welker with the hillary clinton campaign is in new hampshire. we've heard about bill clinton making it on the trail. today is the big day when we're actually going to see him out. talk about the strategy of timing of why they're rolling him out now. >> reporter: well, look, it is the homestretch, frances, and the clinton campaign believes that hillary clinton has no better surrogate than her husband, former president bill clinton. of course he comes with some pros and some cons. donald trump has been heavily criticizing him for his past transgressions and of course, you'll recall he had those missteps back in 2008 when he was campaigning for the first hillary clinton campaign back then. but i've been talking to campaign aides who say, he is one of the most popular politicians in the country. according to the latest
bloomberg poll he gets a 60% favorability rating so they believe pros far outweigh the cons. in terms of the strategy, you're going to see bill clinton stick to the topics he's going to be talking about, the economy, talking about hillary clinton's message on guns and that is a similar strategy that we'll see from secretary clinton. of course she has been heavily criticizing donald trump over his controversial comments particularly his call to ban muslims from entering the united states. i want to talk just a moment about the politics here in new hampshire and why you are seeing bill clinton make his first stop here. this state is a jump ball. if hillary clinton wins this state, she could secure the nomination early. but for bernie sanders, it's really a must-win. polls show he has the lead here, he's of course from neighboring vermont. his message about economic equality has really appealed to the progressive voters here. so he's got a good head start heading into this final stretch. but for hillary clinton, she wants to seal the deal. she wants to win this state and put it away. by the way, she could explain a
loss here in new hampshire but a loss in iowa would just be devastating for hillary clinton. so that is why you are seeing her put a lot of resources into iowa as well. that's where she's going to be campaigning today. >> also there, ted cruz who is starting a week long crisscross of iowa. 28 stops in that tour. hallie jackson is there on the bus starting the year. as a front-runner there when it comes to ted cruz, but i hope that you don't hit a bump or hard brake has you chat with us. is ted cruz putting all of his eggs in one iowa basket or does he have the structure and organization beyond iowa to support it? >> reporter: it's the latter, frances. for give us if we hit any bumps. you have des moines in the rear-view mirror, we're headed off to boone, iowa with ted cruz on his campaign bus. the message they're trying to sell is, they have the money. fund-raising numbers, show
between $20 million and $21 million. ted cruz will be out on this 28-county swing through iowa over the next six days telling iowa texasgoers he's the person that cannot just win iowa but can push forward into those states that vote in march, espgsly the south, where he can be strong and eye pe-- appeal t those evangelical voters. we are get being close to the caucus in iowa. there's energy and excitement, people are starting to tune in and pay attention but there's still four weeks to go. will somebody else get hot and start to chip away at some of cruz's lead. the other question is whether expectations are too high. both senator cruz and his campaign haven't been shy about talking about their strategy to win iowa, then the south and move on from there. does that raise expectations to a level that are unworkable? if you're not a strong number one in iowa or if you
potentially even lose iowa, come in number two, what does that do to the rest of your campaign? >> halle, can you swing your camera around? i'm curious who is on the bus with you. is ted cruz there? is he in the vehicle in front of you? >> so he is -- okay. slow turn. press bus, ted cruz' bus is in boone, iowa which is probably 40 minutes ahead of where we are. we will be coming to you live throughout the day. we have an interview set up with the senator in just a little bit tod today. >> all the cool kids sit in the back of the bus. we'll check back with you later on. thank you. as we get closer to those first votes being cast, new polling reveals that much of
country is frustrated with the state of the country. a new poll says 49% of americans are angrier today than they were a year ago. msnbc's jacob soboroff is covering the stoert fry for us r los angeles bureau. interesting to pinpoint where the source and cause of the anger is for these americans. >> very interesting numbers. there's been a lot of talk about the anger out on the campaign trail this election cycle. now numbers in our new nbc news/esquire poll confirm it, us americans are indeed angrier than we used to be. so to figure out what's fuel all of this i headed to iowa last week. we know americans are angry but what are they so angry about? we came here to council bluffs, iowa to this donald trump rally to ask these folks. what makes you angry, donna? >> pretty much everything. >> everything makes you angry. >> the abortion issue. a lot of the social issues. >> they want to take everybody's gun rights away. >> what makes you angry? >> all the lies that we've been told in this country for years.
i believe everything donald trump says is what we believe in. >> what makes you angry? >> obama. >> what is it about obama? >> he's not doing -- he's just chilling out. >> are you more upset than you used to be? >> i'm boiling. you watch the tv and they -- something else is screwed up. >> how do you cool off? >> just keep watching tv. >> because something else good comes on. >> exactly. . >> you're selling trump merchandise. what gets you fired up? what gets you angry? >> you said what gets me angry? had. >> yeah. >> right now somebody with a microphone in my face. >> reporter: from one end of the political spectrum to the other, what are bernie sanders supporters angry about? >> integrity of the leaders. not just in the white house or the congress. i don't ike litlike either side. >> what makes you angry? >> i think when you look at the college system and how extensibility expensive it is to go to kwlej.
>> what makes you angry? >> our middle class, our health insurance. schools. it's all out of control. >> gets you pretty fired up. >> i get really annoyed. yeah. >> oh, my god. where do you start? >> i don't like the way that they're talking about immigration, about building a wall around this country. this is ridiculous. >> what gets you that fired up? >> the misinformation about the democrats wanting to take guns away from people. >> makes you upset -- >> very mad. very mad. >> i better get out of here. i got to say, in just a few days on the campaign trail the anger was really palpable. bernie sanders from his podium called the anger americans are feeling justified. then an entirely different type of anger at the donald trump rally, a p.a. announcer before the event, i was told attendees at the rally not to harm protesters should they interrupt mr. trump. perhaps a not-so-subtle acknowledgement of all the anger that's going on out there.
>> jacob soboroff, thank you very much. now to some breaking news, o on story this first day of trading in 2016, stocks down almost 400 points right now plunging at the opening bell. want to bring in cnbc's mandy drury. she's been watching the markets this morning. what more can you tell us about this plunge? >> it is not just a plunge here in the united states. we've seen really deep losses around the world markets on this very first day of spring. keep in mind that a drop on the first day of january, doesn't mean much. there is a bit of mythology about the first day of trade but don't put any stock in that. we had chinese manufacturing data that came in weaker than expected. then we saw stocks there in china halted with a new circuit breaker after declining very sharply. as you can imagine here in the states we're seeing a lot of stocks with chinese exposure like alibaba, yum brands,
they're being hit very hard. a safe haven flow into gold and gold miners are getting a nice lift. i know you're looking at the jitters on the geopolitical front with saudi arabia is helping oil move to the up side. but it's been a very frustrating past year and this really does come on the back of so many frustrations for both the bulls and bears. the s&p and dow were really unable to break out convincingly in either direction, and of course people are starting to bring down their target for this year as well. so there is a lot of uncertainty playing in to what's happening with the markets today, frances. >> tough start. we'll see whether it turns around. hopefully soon. hillary clinton's campaign making a renewed push into new hampshire. the state gave her a stunning come-from-behind victory in 2008 over then-senator obama. today voters in new hampshire will have another clinton, former president bill clinton will be back on the trail for his wife in two events today.
his past has already been mentioned to the campaign thanks to republican front-runner donald trump. with me from manchester, a hillary clinton supporter and former new hampshire co-chair of president obama's campaign. jim, appreciate your being with me here as a crucial countdown. what has donald trump and more broadly the republican party gained by bringing up these accusations and will they resonate with democratic voters? >> well, first, i don't think it resonates at all. it is an old story, so it doesn't really help or hurt in any way or shape but i do think that we're pretty excited to have bill clinton in the state today. we really see him as the explainer in chief. he is very capable of telling hillary clinton's story, reinforcing it. nobody knows hillary clinton better than bill clinton so he's quite an asset and we saw that in 2012 when he came in in the closing days to campaign for barack obama. they did that joint event in concord, new hampshire that brought out almost 10,000 people
and really did help close the deal. so we're really thrilled to have bill clinton here. >> talking about closing the deal, in 2012, let's go further back, 2008 and how that necessarily was not the case and the concern for the campaign that bill clinton might say something or imply something that the campaign -- that will hurt the campaign, just like in 2008 when he was referring to senator obama's campaign. a fairy tale. we saw how that back fired. >> yeah. i don't see that happening. i will tell you that a lot of people here remember the good times when bill clinton was president. our economy was as strong as many will ever remember. he knows the issues very well. there's no doubt when he campaigns for his wife there is a level of passion. we saw that in 2008. but bill clinton is one of the best message deliverers. he's certainly the best surrogate the campaign's got. i think we're going to see a candidate's spouse today delivering the message that
needs to help explain some of the policies that hillary clinton has espoused during this campaign. >> when it comes to the clintons, both hillary and bill, now that we're into this part of the race, and with those attacks from donald trump, can we expect bill clinton to be used as kind of an attack dog by the campaign so that hillary kind of stays clean, doesn't have to be muddied, in what we're seeing already is expected to be a nasty general election and how soon will we see that if donald trump continues on this route of targeting both the clintons, won't there be a point where they'll have to engage? >> i don't think so. look, donald trump has attacked just about every single person in america. he has attacked his republican candidates. he's talked about their looks. he's talked about them being low energy. it's fully expected that he's going to attack hillary clinton and bill clinton like he is. so what i think we're really seeing though is that donald trump truly believes he's got the nomination locked up.
he is now shifting his attention to hillary clinton. hillary clinton i think we've seen over the past week or so isn't going to take donald trump's attacks laying down. so we've got a very spirited campaign. but i think as donald trump attacks both clintons, it mobilizes democrats to get out and vote in the february election. it may help him get some of his 37% out to vote in the republican primary. but in all, i think the voters can see beyond that. they really do care more about where are we going to take this country, what are the key issues that all of of these personal attacks that donald trump is waging at just about everybody that's on the ballot. >> all right, jim demers, appreciate you being here with us this morning. back to donald trump's first campaign ad of 2016 in which he doubles down on this controversial plan to ban muslims from entering the united states. >> donald trump calls it radical islamic terrorism. that's why he's calling for a
temporary shutdown of muslims entering the united states until we can figure out what's going on. >> msnbc's cal perry, senior editor for digital content has been following this for us. a lot of social media buzz about this. but when he first made those comments about banning muslims from coming in, a lot of people said this very thing is going to be used for propaganda against isis and other terrorists. >> one of the main people were hillary clinton. she said isis would make a video, right, that would have this speech from donald trump and the stuff from the debate about banning muslims. what we do have is a video that al shabaab has put out. they are a group that operates out of somalia, they operate in kenya. the video is not so slickly produced but it has anwar al awlaki in it. he was killed in 2011. here is a clip. >> listen, donald j. trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the united states until our country's representatives can
figure out what the [ bleep ] is going on! >> as i mentioned before and after that clip is anwar al awlaki, he was the former leader of al qaeda in the laborian peninsula. this has been a narrative going on with these radical groups for some time. donald trump doesn't shy away from this. like everything else, he doubles down on social media. take a look at the sort of twitter reverb. he called hillary clinton a liar yesterday because she said isis will make a video. he draws a distinguishment between isis and shabaab. >> many said, yes, it is going to be made in an isis propaganda, this is the off-shoot of al qaeda. >> i don't think there is any question it is just a matter of time. these groups basically have a video library and they stash this stuff away. al shabaab had video of anwar al awlaki speaking about america dividing a split between muslims
and christians. they had the video ready, they waited for the clip from trump -- >> then here we are seeing it out there. cal perry, thank you very much. still ahead, tensions in the mideast as more countries announce they are severing diplomatic ties with iran following the execution of a prominent shiite cleric. developing within the hour, saudi arabia announces new restrictions. the standoff in oregon. armed protesters take over a federal building calling for the land to be turned over to local authorities. we'll have the latest on this tense situation next. why do some cash back cards keep throwing obstacles at you? first - they limit where you earn bonus cash back. then - those places change every few months? i think i'll pass... quicksilver from capital one puts nothing in your way. you simply earn unlimited 1.5% cash back on every purchase, everywhere. you can't dodge the question... what's in your wallet?
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citizens from traveling to iran. this comes just a day after the saudis cut diplomatic ties and hours after bahrain and sudan followed suit. saudi arabia's allies are joining the diplomatic fight with iran in a crisis that could bring even more turmoil to the middle east. the uae is downgrading diplomatic ties with iran. this all follows the back and forth between the two powerful gulf nations with i began with saudi arabia a sunni nation executed 47 people including a shiite cleric sparking protests inside shia majority iran and an attack on the saudi embassy. iranian president rowhani condemned both executions and storming of the embassy. joining me now to talk about this, nbc news's tehran bureau chief, ali arouzi, start with you. the new developments and the reports about saudis cutting commercial ties and also not allowing citizens from traveling to iran. talk about that and the ramifications from it. >> reporter: well, frances, this
has quite broad ramifications. firstly, for iranians, we're not sure yet if iranian pilgrims are going to be banned from traveling to saudi arabia but that's a very, very important pilgrimage for muslims of all denominations, sunni or shia. it is the duty of all muslims to make a pilgrimage to mecca, medina and some 600,000 iranians travel to saudi arabia every year to make that pilgrimage. if they're banned from doing that, they're going to be very, very upset about that because it is very important for them so we have to see if that's going to happen. in the past, iran has banned iranian pilgrims from going to saudi arabia over disputes with saudi arabia, but it was only for a very short period of time. if this is an extended ban, it could be very upsetting for iranians here. the other worrying thing for the iranians here is the downgrading of diplomatic ties with the uae. iranians have vast business interests in dubai. there is a lot of very prominent businessmen in dubai that have set up their hub there.
they make a lot of money there. they come and go from tehran to dubai on a very regular basis. there are more flights to dubai from tehran every day than to any other country so that would be a major blow. also a lot of iranians go to dubai for leisure purposes. it is very difficult for iranians to obtain visas to travel abroad but dubai is a very easy visa for them to get. they can get it in a day and they like to go there for rest and relaxation. so that would be a major blow. it is 1 1/2 hours flight from tehran to dubai, it is a very easy trip and a lot of people go there. we have to see how this is all going to affect iran. iran doesn't have a lot of allies in this region and not a lot of places to go so this could make it quite difficult. >> let's talk about that especially with the allies aligning on the saudi said -- side you have bahrain. >> the sunni allies in the
region tend to be paramilitary organizations like husband blah in southern lebanon or in yemen as we see with the houthi rebels. not a lot of state actors are as dependent on iran as perhaps some other countries of the gulf cooperation council look as saudi arabia as the economic super way of the region and the big brother on the block. they are much more dependent on saudi arabia. they'll follow saudi arabia's line a lot more so than in iran's case and quite frankly, the only state actor that is a close ally of iran is syria and syria is already at odds with all of the arab countries predominantly those in the gulf countries over the past five years since the civil war broke out. >> ali, to you. when it comes to saudi arabia and the u.s. relations there, especially as one of our allies here, how will that weaken at all? how will that affect us? >> reporter: well, i mean iran doesn't have particularly good relations with the united states as it is, but since the nuclear deal, iran has been trying to do
a lot of bridge building in the region, in europe. they want to come in from the cold after the nuclear deal. they said that they want to restore diplomatic relations with all countries. this is going to complicate that infinitely. the saudis have obviously built an alliance in the region here against iran and that's not something the iranians wanted. president rowhani strongly condemned the execution but he also strongly condemned the raid on the embassy here saying it was by no means justifiable. it was very clear that president rowhani didn't want a diplomatic breakdown in his outreach to the world here so that is going to make matters much more complicated for them and we have to see how it is going to affect relations between iran and america that have just recently started talking. america is strongly allied with saudi arabia, not iran but they are trying to have talks with iran and that's going to become more complicated, too. >> thank you both.
now to president obama who is back from vacation and preparing to take executive action to tighten the country's gun laws. we'll examine the legal implications of the president's new efforts. but first, a live look at governor chris christie speaking in manchester, new hampshire. the 2016 candidates focusing on the granite state and iowa with the caucus just 28 days away. ♪ ♪ why fit in when you were born to stand out. the 2016 nissan altima has arrived. ♪
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>> we have all three branches of government surrounded. chris jansing, tell us what is expected to come out of this afternoon's meeting. >> reporter: there is a new sense of urgency here. the president with 13 months to go and great disappointment in the white house that they have not had any success at getting any major change in terms of the nation's gun control laws. so the president will be turning to executive action. we will get a chance to see him when he's in that meeting, that just with the attorney general and the head of the fbi and the head of the atf, people who several months ago he tasked with looking at ways that they could, through executive action, increase the restrictions on gun purchases. so the one thing we know that the president is indeed looking at and is expected to announce later this week is background checks for some of these gun dealers who work at gun shows and are not now required to do
that. this was something that they had hoped to get done through congress after the newtown tragedy and they were stopped due to a filibuster in the senate. they are looking at improving the reporting of lost and stolen weapons, beefing up inspections of actually licensed dealers, and also targeting criminals who illegally obtain guns. he talked about this sort of gave us a forecast of what he's looking at in his radio address over the weekend. every time there's been one of these mass shootings, he's met with family members. he says he gets so many letters from children, from teachers, from parents, about things that they want to get done. he feels compelled to act on this. of course, there has been a tremendous pushback, particularly from republicans who are running for president and there are also some remaining questions about the legality of it. but he says this has been thoroughly vetted by his legal team. >> turning to that and the resistance that we'll see legally, talk about the legal
implications of that for that, pete williams. break those down for us. >> well, whatever happens here, somebody is going to probably file a lawsuit over this. the nub of the action seems to be the federal law that says you have to have a license to sell handguns -- unless you do it as a hobby or you are a collector. so the question will be how do you define a dealer. this will be an attempt to close the so-called gun show loophole. but that's been a tricky thing to enforce over the years, to prove that someone who routinely goes to a gun show to sell guns out of the back of the car is not doing this as a hobby but is doing it as a business. that may be where the action is on these executive orders. that will be part of the challenge here is what is the substance of what the president's trying to do. the other is how will he try to do it. will he simply impose it by executive order, will he put a notice in the federal register and call for public comment. that's different. remember, the failure to call for public comment is what has
been the key point that has been used by states challenging another of his executive orders which involves the immigration change. so what the president does will probably be as important in terms of these lawsuits is how he chooses to do it. but you can be sure that no matter what he does, somebody is going to sue over it and that may delay its implementation. >> we are hearing already pushback from capitol hill. luke russert, what are we hearing from speaker ryan. >> this is is not going to be popular on capitol hill amongst congressional republicans. as chris mentioned earlier in this segment, they did in fact filibuster this type of legislation right after newtown which shows you the power of gun lobby here on capitol hill. but house speaker paul ryan coming out today with some very strong language regarding this proposed executive action by president obama saying, "the president is at a minimum subverting the legislative branch and potentially overturning its will. the american people deserve a president who will respect their constitutional rights, all of them. this is a dangerous level of
executive overreach and the country will not stand for it." don't expect this to be popular in republican circles on capitol hill or the campaign trail. as for anything that congress could actually do this year regarding gun violence, perhaps something on the mental health front. there has been discussion about having more funding going to mental health research which republicans say is really the culprit here, not the guns on the streets. there is some bipartisan support for that because that is something democrats support as well. but anything that looks restrictive is an automatic nonstarter in republican circles on capitol hill regarding gun rights. >> we'll see this get started with a meeting this afternoon. thank you. >> frances, could you just make one quick point? >> sure. >> you hear a lot of talk about the constitution especially from critics of the president's plan. but i think that the challenge will not be the constitutionality of this, it is going to be whether it is simply violating the current law that's on the books regulating gun legal dealers.
>> the legal aspect. we'll break it down for you as this develops. to all of you again, thank you. a new year and a new ad from donald trump. his first of the 2016 campaign. we'll get reaction next. a live look at the new york stock exchange. we've been watching the sharply declining markets throughout the morning after china halted trading. volatile markets there. now we see this dip to negative 394, now 393. another live report is coming up. constipated?
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expense. you take any ad, the goal is to broaden a candidate's base, attract new voters ma nay that on the fence. how does this spot bring voters into the trump campaign? this is classic trump. we've heard this before, it is not anything new. >> it doesn't deviate much from his message. doubles down on some of the incendiary rhetoric that he has had on the campaign trail. the big news i think out of this is that trump is going up on air with tv. this is his first ad. $2 million in iowa and new hampshire. he hasn't done this before. this is something new for trump to be on air. but the ad itself is not all that different from his message. there does not appear to be a sense of trying to broaden the base, trying to appeal to anybody else or soften any of the rhetoric. >> what's it say especially with the countdown less than a month ago before iowa. what does it say about trump and his campaign and how they're doing the state following ted cruz there who's topping the
polls in iowa, that he's actually sinking this much money. he tweeted, i am going to sink some big money into these crucial states. >> there does seem to be a sense from trump that he does not want to wait too long and regret that he didn't go up on air earlier. so i think that he is trying to stem some of ted cruz's rise in iowa. this ad may or may not do that but that's i think his aim is to sort of prevent ted cruz from continuing his momentum in iowa. trump has a fairly solid ground in new hampshire so this seems more aimed at iowa probably than it does in new hampshire. >> talk about kind of the blurry line there that the other candidates, how they go about in acknowledging this ad. other candidates, jeb bush, chris christie, marco rubio. do they say i'm offended by this? or it's not that big of a deal, it's nothing? how careful do they have to be and how will voters respond to what they say? >> i think some of the candidates have already responded, in part, to this type of rhetoric.
jeb bush increasingly has distanced himself and criticized trump particularly on the muslim ban which continues to go on in this ad. i imagine today we could hear from jeb bush, john kasich has been up in new hampshire. chris christie. some of these candidates may push back against trump and what this ad represents. it gives them another opportunity to distance themselves from trump in the minds of voters and the voters who may be receptive to candidates who are not trump. trump seems to be doubling down though in sort of telling his supporters i'm not changing my style, i'm not changing my rhetoric and this ad proves that. >> we'll see how that translates in other ads knowing this is the first. he said he's $35 million under budget so he has a lot of money to spend on those ads. thank you very much. following breaking news from wall street as we look now at that plunge. negative 404 here. stocks deep dive in negative
territory the first day of the trading year. this as we're seeing a volatile asian market specifically china. want to check in with cnbc's dominic chu who breaks do you what's going on and how alarmed the public should be when it comes to this especially so early on in the trading year. >> so early on in the trading year and so early on just to follow your last guest discussion, in an election year as well. we're down 405 points. that represents one of the starts to a year that we've seen in recent market history and it is broad-based selling. no real sectors or industry groups or types of companies are immune to what's been happening right now. there are two main factors driving what's happening in trading today. one is what's happening out of china. china is the world's second-biggest economy and we do see more signs of economic slowdown in china. but also because the stock market there actually halted trading today and shut it down completely. what happens was they had a
sharp drop in stocks in china and the government put in some plans to stop trading to stem some of the losses we've been seeing that. that caused a lot of turmoil in other parts of asia and that's carrying through to europe around us as well. that's one of the big reasons. of course, like we've been saying all morning here on both msnbc, cnbc and all of our other sister networks, it is what's happening in the middle east. iran, saudi arabia, the rising tensions between shiites and sunnis and what's that going to do to the world economy, does that give people a chance or reason to say, hey, we've had a great stock market run, maybe with all the geopolitical risks this is a time to take some risk off the table. . chinese stock market and economy, rising tensions here in the middle east, all contributing to what's happening with the dow down 40 0400 point. still ahead, we'll take you to oregon where armed protesters are staging a standoff at a federal building over land. we'll bring you details next. the social services center that became the scene of a shooting rampage in san
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making a hard stand against this overreach, this taking of the people's land and resources. >> joining me now with more is msnbc's joe fryar live in oregon. what do these protesters want to see? >> reporter: they say the bigger picture is that they want local control over his federally managed land and they say they're not going to leave here inle that happens. they say they'll even stay here for years, if necessary. the smaller picture issue centers around those two ranchers who live in eastern oregon. they were convicted of starting fires on federal land. they actually served some time behind bars for that but a judge recently ruled they need to serve more time. so today they are supposed to report to prison to serve the rest of that time and their attorney says that they do plan to do that today. over the weekend, there was a peaceful rally in the town of burns, oregon in support of
those two ranchers. but then an armed group, a small group, sort of splipt ntered of from that, drove 30 miles here to the refuge and that's where they took things over here and have been here ever since, basically taking over the headquarters. authorities are urging the un. lick n the public not to come here. it is temporarily closed. there's been no visible law enforcement presence here but the fbi says that it is hoping for a peaceful resolution but won't provide any more information about how law enforcement plans to respond to what has happened here. schools in this entire county have actually been canceled for the entire week in the wake of what's happened here. >> that is the hope on both parts, that the resolution will be peaceful. tony, in talking about this, where is this situation headed as far as having a conclusion to it based on the past clashes that you've covered similar to this? >> it could end in a violence direction which is why schools and the wildlife refuge is
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breaking news this morning on msnbc -- a new year, a new campaign strategy. bill clinton is on the campaign trail for the first time and he will speak live this hour. all of this as donald trump begins the new year with his first tv ad just 28 days before the iowa caucuses and we will carry bill clinton's comments for you live. developing now, will the armed standoff at a federal building in oregon end peacefully? we'll have the very latest as the two ranchers at the center of the protests are expected to report to jail this morning. also developing, the escalating tensions between saudi arabia and iran following the execution of a shiite cleric. now several other muslim countries are cutting ties with iran. good morning, everyone. i'm tamron hall. we begin in new hampshire. these are live images for you from nashua county community college. that's where former president bill clinton will hold his first solo campaign event in support of his wife's 2016 bid. the former president is expected
to speak in just a few minutes and is scheduled to make a second stop in that state later today. clinton will be looking to provide his wife a boost in a state where she has trailed bernie sanders in recent polls. just hours ago the republican front runner, donald trump, took straight aim at hillary clinton and her foreign policy in that tv ad we mentioned that he placed up this morning. also, trump continued to target both bill and hillary clinton over the former president's past indiscretions. >> i don't really care about monica lewinsky other than i think that hillary was an enabler and a lot of things happened that were obviously very seedy. he was impeached, for heaven's sake. >> joining me now from nashua, nbc's kristin welker. at this point the clintons have not responded to donald trump. some of their supporters certainly have showing tape of donald trump in the past supporting bill clinton, saying that the indiscretions that were made very public, monica