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show. >> what have you learned, mike? >> if the citizens of flint, michigan, had a pac, a political action committee, with money in it, they wouldn't be drinking lead water. >> and the kids would be in school in detroit. mika. >> it's way too early. what time is it? >> it's "morning joe." but stick around. "msnbc live" coming up next. right now on msnbc, the power of palin. donald trump hoping the backing of sarah palin is the boost he needs to pull away from rival ted cruz in iowa. >> you ready for a commander in chief who will let our warriors do their job and go kick isis' ass? ready for someone who will secure our borders to secure our jobs and to secure our homes, ready to make america great again. are you ready to stump for trump? i am here to support the next president of the united states,
donald trump. >> we will see. the gop frontrunner and former alaska governor soon in iowa. we'll have a look in nor walk where we expect to see donald trump and sarah palin take the stage in about a half an hour. also this morning the democratic race takes a nasty turn. hillary clinton dismissing what her campaign calls meaningless new polling from new hampshire showing bernie sanders with a massive lead. sanders is now making a tough comparison when it comes to clinton's experience. >> i think, on the crucial foreign policy issue of our time, it turns out that secretary clinton, with all of her experience, was wrong and i was right. experience is important. dick cheney had a lot of experience. a whole lot of people have experience but do not necessarily have the right judgment. good wednesday morning to you. i'm josé díaz-balart. joining me this morning nbc's katy tur with donald trump in iowa.
anne gearon of the "washington post" and steve kornacki. katy, is the trump campaign waking up with even more pep in their step this morning? >> certainly the trump campaign, they're very happy about this sarah palin endorsement. of course they touted it far and wide in the past few days, especially yesterday as the fever pitch was coming as to who would be -- everyone sort of knew it was going to be sarah palin. her reception in ames wasn't that glowing. the crowd was a younger student crowd. it was at iowa state. they didn't seem to be, for the most part, buying into what sarah palin was selling. the older folks in the crowd seemed to like her a little bit more. what she was saying was a bit of a word soup. a lot of red meat in there, catchy, pithy lines. it seemed like a better endorsement on paper than in
real life. she will be with him here today at this morning event. we'll see if the reaction is any different. but this is a pretty tiny event for donald trump. so i'm not sure what the energy will be like in this room. it is also very early in the morning. it would be interesting to see what palin is like at one of his very large rallies but yesterday was a small one as well. so we're going to wait and see how she is received here. so far the campaign says they're very pleased that they've been able to get this endorsement, especially at the expense of ted cruz. >> yeah. that's, steve, something i want to ask you. what's the bigger headline this morning? palin endorsing trump or palin not endorsing cruz. >> every headline with donald trump seems to be bigger. and that's his entire strategy, has just been to own the media conversation, the media coverage in this campaign. and when you think back to when he got back in, i mean, we're talking now the middle of june he started to dominate the
headlines back then. everybody said, he can keep this up for a couple weeks, maybe the summer, but eventually he'll run out of tricks. you see yesterday, 13 days before the iowa caucuses yesterday, he is basically tied in iowa and basically leading everywhere else. he basically pulls a rabbit out of the hat and dominates the media coverage last night and probably again today. that's something that ted cruz and all the other candidates, they need a piece of it. donald trump, by getting an endorsement like this, takes it away from them. interesting what katy was saying about maybe the lack of enthusiasm from the crowd, watching it on tv, that's something i picked up on. it occurs to me the last time we saw polling on sarah palin, it's been three or four years since we got a sense of what voters and republicans in general think about her. when the polling stopped, her numbers were falling off. she was still popular among republicans, but she wasn't at the levels that she was at in 2008, 2009, 2010. so i do wonder exactly how much
meaning this will end up having. >> steve, this is, i think, probably very important or more iowa-centric, this sarah palin influences than it may be in other places. but iowa is key. >> it's the one state right now where donald trump clearly is not leading. at best, he is tied with ted cruz. he may be behind him a couple points in iowa. what ted cruz is trying to do, we talked about the strategy he had for months of laying off donald trump and not attacking him and not answering insinuations. that's thrown out the window now. ted cruz is coming after donald trump and he's getting cover from some influential people on the right who had been friendly to this point to donald trump, specifically talking about some conservative radio hosts like rush limbaugh. they've been friendly and helpful to trump the last six months. they seem to be turning on him and siding with cruz.
if you're donald trump and looking to win iowa, you're looking at voters who might be torn between trump and cruz, those voters have been starting to get signals from people they listen to, side with cruz in this argument. now trump gives them sarah palin. it could be helpful. now bernie sanders with a 27 point lead in new hampshire. the email controversy coming up again. what's going on in. >> well, the new hampshire poll is shocking. it's beyond sobering for the clinton campaign. they've been behind but nowhere near as badly behind in polls leading up to this one. this is a real poll. a random digital poll. a big sample. it may be an outlier but the numbers are absolutely shocking for clinton supporters. were she to lose new hampshire by anything close to that bad a margin, that makes iowa all the more important. she's even or slightly trailing
sanders in the most reliable polls coming out of iowa now. and this sets up the possibility of a one-two loss for her right at the start. >> anne, if that happens, the logic i guess in the clinton campaign and others is, look, these are two tough states for hillary clinton, but coming out of these two states, the rest of the states, especially the early ones, are very positive for clinton. can she deal with a one-two punch and still come out ahead? >> she can definitely deal with it. the campaign is designed with that as an eventuality. but it's no one's first choice. she would come out after spending an enormous amount of time and money in iowa, particularly, and also in new hampshire. but really in iowa. she has focused her entire campaign around winning iowa. it was seen as her great achilles' heel last time, that
she did so poorly there. it was seen as emblematic of all the things that were wrong with her as a candidate and wrong with her campaign. rightly or wrongly, that was the takeaway from iowa. the campaign has said, we're not doing that again. we're going to do iowa right. we've built an enormous operation there. and if that all falls apart and iowa does not come true for her, then many of the same doubts and worries about her campaign operation and her skills and abilities as a candidate will return. that said, she goes on from iowa and new hampshire and the rest of the calendar, the near term part of the calendar are very beneficial for her. she is likely to do great. she'll just clean up in south carolina and do well in nevada, win in nevada. then she goes on from there. but she goes on hobbled. >> anne, steve and katy, thank you for being with me this morning. we're seeing and hearing
this morning from the three americans freed from iran as they try to reacclimate themselves to the world outside of the prison walls. we're expecting to see jason rezaian at any moment. what do we know about these gentleman today? keir? i am not seeing keir. let's see what we're seeing. looks like the outside of the emergency room there. we're expecting jason rezaian to come out from those doors at any second. we don't know if he's just going to pass by and say hello or let's see what happens. we don't know if he's going to come out to speak to us. the media. or he's just going to walk out and wave but we are expecting that to occur any second now. rezaian, of course, "washington post" reporter who was held for more than four years in iran.
and just one of the folks who were freed. do we have keir? just checking. this is live television, so anything can happen. is keir simmons available for us? okay. let's do something. let's keep monitoring this. and if we even can, can you put a box up on that so that we can see if jason does come out and as soon as he does come out we will go to that. because we have other breaking news to go over this morning with you. let's do that. let's continue on -- oh, we have him now? keir, are you with me this morning? let's see who is coming out now. it is. there's jason. that's him right there with the cap. >> reporter: josé, good morning. can you hear me? >> i can. go ahead. looks like he's coming to speak. >> reporter: josé, good morning. what you can see right now is jason rezaian walking out of
hospital in landstuhl, germany. he is standing there with his wife and his mother and his brother, who he was only reunited with in the last few days. and you can see how well he is. he has been here undergoing treatment. i think he is talking a little bit. >> let's see if we can listen in. >> keir, it doesn't look like he wanted to speak much, just kind of wave with his family members. do we know, keir, what the schedule is for him and the other americans as far as returning back home? >> reporter: well, we know that he is allowed to leave here at
any time that he wants to. >> right. >> reporter: he is free to leave. of course, he is a free citizen. he, though, is undergoing treatment here and analysis. and what they're saying is that they -- he really needs time, and the other two freed american prisoners who are here need time to decompress, to spend time just understanding what happened, talking to both doctors and psychologists just to make sense of what happened because, remember, that jason rezaian was imprisoned in iran for three and a half years. he talks about being held in solitary confinement. he says that it was a very, very difficult time in which, for a while, he was left to just exercise in a small concrete yard. so i think, josé, that we haven't heard all of the details yet about the way that he has been treated.
but what he has told friends and colleagues is that he is feeling good. and it's clear that he and the other two americans who are here on this base are really anxious to get home. that may well happen in the next few days, i think, josé. >> that's good news. keir, let me, as i speak with you, i am just getting in now a written statement from jason rezaian that was just issued today from landstuhl, germany, reading in part. i want everyone to know i'm feeling fine. i appreciate everything that has been done on my behalf. i want to thank the swiss foreign ministry and the swiss air force and the fine doctors here. i am staying with my family in a comfortable guest house on the base. i spent a lot of my life writing about the u.s. and iran. i never imagined or wanted to become part of the story. particularly at such an extraordinary moment. i want to get back to writing the u.s.-iran story at some point in the future but i won't
be saying anything further for a while. he ends, keir, by saying, for now i want to catch up with what's been going on around the world. watch a warriors game or two, and see the "star wars" movie. >> reporter: yeah. well, you can imagine that kind of sentiment, right? also just imagine what it must be like for him. he is a journalist at the center of a story, so a strange and surreal experience for him anyway. and we know how surreal it feels for any of these five americans who were released. we heard from amir hekmati yesterday. he described it in those words, as surreal. he is a marine, of course. what he said was that he needed all of his military training to try to cope with what he went through. he has told us already that he was subjected to sleep deprivation. and just in terms of jason rezaian, you know, just in the last few days before he was
released, we now know that the iranians appeared to be trying to prevent or did not want to let both his wife and his mother, who you saw there with him, to leave the country with him. so there were last-minute negotiations even at that stage. amir talks about two and a half days waiting to find out whether or not he really would be able to leave. and then says that he was told a number of times previously that he would be allowed to leave and then he wasn't. so he didn't believe it until the plane took off and left iranian airspace. what amir hekmati says about that flight, by the way, is at the point of which they flew out of iranian airspace there were champagne bottles corked and they were served veal. there were celebrations. jason, of course, would have been part of that too. >> keir simmons in landstuhl. thank you very much for the breaking news this morning. also breaking news out of
pakistan. at least 20 people are dead after gunmen attacked a university leading to a fierce gun battle with soldiers and local police. nbc is live on the phone from the city where the attack took place. what's the latest there? >> reporter: the latest is that this is essentially over now. we have 20 killed, as you said. 60 injured. most of them are males, professors and students from the one male dormitory which was targeted specifically by four attackers of the pakistani taliban, all equipped with ak 47 assault rifles, grenades and suicide jackets. the arack lasted around 90 minutes or so. they were repelled. but that wasn't before the attackers entered the school using the coverup of very heavy
fog this morning in this sleepy small town. we are being told by people inside the campus, students, professors as well as security officials, that the attackers probably knew what they were doing. they knew that most of the males on campus resided in this dormitory and they also knew there was a competition today in the school so there were a lot more people on campus. we talked to some people in the hospital's cafeteria. there are interesting stories about how students hid in the kitchen on their stomachs while the attackers came in and found a very empty cafeteria. if they hadn't taken those measures, that would have been -- the casualties could have been worse. because there were around 30 boys locked up in that cafeteria. besides that, just terrible scenes. lots of blood. grenade fragments. body parts all over the place.
a tough, tough site to be on and especially to happen to you in the first few hours of your school day. >> waj, a couple questions. has the taliban taken responsibility for this? number two, isn't this close to where there was an attack on an elementary school just over a year ago? >> reporter: this is -- the taliban has taken responsibility. another group of the taliban, which there are different factions, has denied that they attacked the school. so there was confusion earlier today. but one faction from a nearby tribal area of the taliban, has taken responsibility for this. i saw the attackers myself. none were bearded. all in late teens or mid 20s. four of them who were all wearing sneakers. they were well trained and they looked like they were ready for a standout. they were wearing military grade
flak jackets. besides that, what we do know is yes, the school attack was less than 13 months ago. clear connections as survivors today were talking about the connection and about the deliberate attack by the taliban to target institutions of learning which is essentially what this war in this part of the world is all about. it's about progressive elements which want to move on and those which don't want to move on. >> waj, thank you very much for the live report this morning from pakistan. to the latest developments in the flint, michigan, water crisis. today embattled rick snyder says he'll release two years' worth of his own emails on the lead contamination crisis. last night he apologized to flint residents in his state of the state address. >> i am sorry and i will fix it. no citizen of this great state should endure this kind of catastrophe. government failed you.
federal, state and local leaders, by breaking the trust you placed in us. i'm sorry, most of all, that i let you down. you deserve better. you deserve accountability. >> msnbc tony decopal joining us from flint. as the blame game heats up, the governor announced several new steps to address the crisis, hasn't he? >> reporter: that's right. last night as protesters circled the capital, the governor discussed the crisis first and intent. the big news, a $28 million action plan to do three things. first it will mean more water, more water filters. secondly. more national guard members going door-to-door here in flint. they've only visited half the homes so far. and third, this is good news for the parents of flint, there will be treatment for the children who have been exposed to the lead in the water. that means nurses in schools, that means early intervention. the rest of the speech wasn't
about the action plan but about, as you mentioned, the political blame game. it was a carefully worded although full-throated apology. while he did use words like accountability and apology, at the same time he pushed the blame down under the epa, state officials and local officials. what you have is a circle of blame. you have the epa blaming the state, you have the governor blaming his underlings and then you have lawyers and demonstrators who were very angry last night saying this ultimately is the governor's problem. we'll see where the buck ultimately stops. >> tony, thank you very much. by the way, today on "msnbc live," tamron hall at 11:00 will be with cher to talk about how she is helping the people affected by the flint water crisis. in michigan, more than 80 schools in detroit closed today as several teachers stage a sick-out. educators protesting the district's financial conditions and what they call horrible work environments. many teachers have taken to
social media posting pictures of rundown floors and walls, leaking toilet pipes. governor snyder also addressed this issue last night. >> detroit schools are in a crisis. the detroit schools are in need of a transformational change. too many schools are failing at their central task of preparing our young michiganders for a successful, rewarding life. simply put, not all detroit students are getting the education they deserve. >> bringing in msnbc editor for digital content. good morning. >> reporter: these are pictures that the teachers' union is putting out. they're walking out today. this is a de facto state of emergency for detroit city schools. now it's just an unworkable situation. we'll show you the pictures. as you look at them, it's a ridiculous situation. it's hard to imagine that this is sort of the low end of the
public school system. we're talking about a school district with 100 schools, 88 of which today will be shut down. the teachers in detroit are timing this with president obama's visit to the auto show later today. those will make for some interesting pictures. this is a school district that is in debt 3.5 billion. the buildings, the average age of these schools is 47 years old. now, the people of detroit are pointing to the emergency manager who used to work in flint and now works in detroit. that's something that we're hearing a lot about on social media as the teachers continue this online campaign. but some of these pictures, i mean, a bullet hole in a classroom. one of the pictures is of a pane of glass which as the tweet says was caught by one of the public schoolteachers as it fell towards the ground. so really interesting images coming out of these schools. we'll watch today as the teachers basically go on strike. it was referred to as sick-outs really until today. but with 88 of 100 schools
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different storm is being felt. gabe. >> reporter: hi, josé. good morning. we've seen a very -- ever-changing winter weather pattern over the last hour or so. we started out with some freezing rain. then we saw some sleet. then some snow. now it's back to sleet. as you can see behind me, it's very busy here at the tennessee department of transportation salt barn here in nashville. crews have been working overnight. and we can look right now at one of their live traffic cams, you can see this has been a difficult morning commute in nashville. very icy roads. picked up a little bit of snow. but the impacts from this storm have been seen throughout a good chunk of the country. places like missouri and nebraska. already seeing impacts. just north of us in kentucky, they've seen a few inches of snow. there is a winter weather advisory in effect for tennessee until this evening. many public schools are closed here. the tennessee department of transportation says they have a budget of about $19 million, and they are ready for this. much of their salt and brine was
depleted last winter. this is their first major storm of this season. certainly a lot of people watching to see how this plays out. we're hoping to see some of the precipitation move out throughout the day. then of course, the northeast bracing for that major winter storm later on this week. josé, back to you. >> gabe gutierrez, thank you very much. now to nbc meteorologist bill karins. bill, good morning. how bad will this get? >> ags bad as a lot of people i the mid-atlantic have ever seen. haven't seen a 20 inch snowfall in washington, d.c., since 1922. you're talking about a once in a lifetime storm for the residents around baltimore, d.c. and up into the mountains. let me show you the computer models. we're 48 hours away. this isn't the forecast. this is just one computer model. these update four times a day. the european model pin points the pink colors which is 24 to 36 inches of snow. two to three feet.
in the huge area from the pennsylvania-maryland border to bristol, tennessee, including roanoke and the washington, d.c., area. a bull's eye there of up to 3 feet. the american computer model, the reason we're so confident in the high impact storm in the mid-atlantic. it also agrees. about 24 to 36 inches possible in around the democr.c. area. a little less but you get the gist. a two-foot snow storm would shut down the mid-atlantic. let's talk about the timing. we'll start the weather maps going into friday. light thursday night. middle of the night. severe weather possible. through the mountains. going throughout early friday morning we'll start to see the snow breaking out throughout the mountainous areas. the snow by noon on friday works its way up towards areas like washington, d.c. by the time we get to friday afternoon and evening, saturday,
the storm bombs off the coast. this is when it's a full-fledged nor'easter. saturday is when the damage is up the coast. large waves, beach erosion. 70-mile-per-hour winds possible. early saturday morning very problematic. in some cases could be a top-ten all-time high tide cycle. all-time water height. that's a problem there. snow going hard saturday. makes its way up new york city saturday afternoon. the northern edge is still difficult. the heavy snow may only make it to new york city or could sneak into southern new england. albany to boston not a high impact storm for you. areas to the south will be a lot worse. sunday we'll watch the snow tapering off in d.c. it's not until sunday afternoon that we watch it tapering off in southern new england. so, josé, obviously if washington, d.c., picks up 20 inches. that's a historic storm. thankfully it starts on a weekend. we could easily have a couple of
hundred thousand people lose power because of the gusty winds on the coast too. a multi-faceted storm. still 48 hours away. maybe it will change a little bit and the impacts will be a little less but it looks like this will be a big one. >> this is going to be a dangerous storm. you have a couple hundred thousand people losing power and the snow coming down. >> anytime you get storms like this and that much snow, emergency crews cannot get through it and rescue people. people go into labor. a lot of difficulties. >> should i read into anything the "today" show folks invited me to be with them on saturday and sunday out in the plaza playing around? should i -- i'll be there on the "today" show saturday and sunday. >> they need extra shovellers? >> i don't know what's going on. it's like, hey, come and play with us saturday and sunday. >> you should invite them where you are. >> the "today" show? south florida. i love it. following breaking news from wall street was investors appear
to be in for another stomach churning ride. stocks down at the open sharply. worries about the falling price of oil. 191 points down. msnbc business correspondent olivia sterns is here with the opening numbers. it doesn't look good. >> reporter: another ugly morning here on wall street. the dow off by 191 points, off about 1.2%. we actually thought that from where futures were trading we'd see the dow drop even further this morning. this is not as bad as it could have been. the two big things traders are focused on are selling going on in asian equities and the continuing plunge in the price of oil. overnight in asia the benchmark index in tokyo fell into bear territory, meaning it's down 20% or more from its recent peak. the price of crude just continues to plunge. it's incredible, josé. good news for drivers. $1.87, the new average price for a gallon of gasoline. down 3% again today.
west texas trading below $28. one piece of economic data that came out is the number on new housing starts. as we know it's been an uneven recovery in the housing market over the past couple years in the u.s. prices have broadly recovered but the number of new housing starts, so new residential home construction, is nowhere near back to where it was pre-crisis. the number this morning shows that for the month of december new housing starts actually fell 2.5%. that's worse than economists had forecast. that's souring sentiment a little bit further on wall street. josé. >> olivia, thank you very much as we see the numbers continue to drop. down 225 points. thanks. going to norwalk, iowa, now, donald trump setting to get a rally underway. let's listen in for a bit. >> you'll hear me speak for a little while. somebody called a major, major reporter, great reporter actually, very liberal in this
case. that's okay. they can be good too. putting their point of view. but the question was how does it feel? i said, how does what feel? how does it feel? because this was four months ago, the summer of trump they called it, right? and probably they thought that that would be the end and we'd fade into oblivion. they've been waiting and waiting and waiting and we keep going higher and higher and higher. now they're not waiting so much anymore. that's the good news. they've been with me a long time these people back there. we've been suffering together, the reporters. we suffer together. i call them untruthful and they sort of just take it. actually, it doesn't hurt them because you know the truth sometimes they understand it. but we have had a hard time with them. but some are -- actually some are very good. about 25%. tops! tops. but we've been together now for a long time. but, you know, it's interesting. so this reporter called the summer of trump, how does it feel. i said, it doesn't feel like anything. well, what's to feel? he said, you've done something
that nobody has ever done before. what's happening here in terms of what's happened with, you know, with even concept, with the way to run a campaign. because if you look at what i've done, now i'm spending money, but i've spent no money, practically no money. a guy like bush spent $79 million, up to 79, maybe even over $80 million. he's down here at the bottom, and i'm at the top. i said, wouldn't it be great if we could do that with our country where we spent less money than anybody else and have the best product. it would be really -- no, wouldn't that be great? but he said, how does it feel? and i said it doesn't feel anything. he says, no, you don't understand. even if you don't win, which i don't like to hear, even if you don't win, what you have done has never been done before. i said, if i don't win i've wasted my time. that's the way i view it. maybe they'll say trump ran a good campaign. who cares. doesn't mean anything to me. i guess i'll go back to building buildings. i do a good job with it, and
employing a lot of people. he said that. i said, no, you don't understand. really -- if i don't win, it's a whole different ball game. it means nothing. everything i've done, everything my incredible people have done with hope and cory and tanner and everybody and chuck and sam -- honestly, it doesn't mean anything. it doesn't mean anything. so we want to get in and we want to win. when i say win, we've got to win here. if we can win here, we're going to run the table. we'll talk about that in a second. when i talked to the reporter, i meant win for president. because if i don't win for president, even if i won the nomination and didn't win, i would consider that a major loss. and people would say, oh, what a great campaign. not a great campaign. because the only way we can really do real change. not obama change. remember, change. we got change all right. i know the farmers got real change. they can't plow or do anything now with the water problems and the puddles that go and they call them a lake. it's considered a lake. the puddle forms on your land.
it's four feet by four feet, oh, that's considered a lake. you can't touch it. this is reserved water. i mean, what you're going through, what everybody is going through with regulations and everything. i mean, look, everything. everything you look at. all of that will be gone and we'll go back to being a healthy, strong, beautiful and beautifully run nation again. so important. so we're going to go out and i just want to say, so, february 1st, you've got to get out there. you've got to bring your friends. i joke and kid, if you don't feel well, no matter what's happening, if you have the worst day of your life, it doesn't matter. you have to get out there. you have to caucus. and we're going to bring it home. ideally we're going to bring it home. i will tell you how important iowa is, though. i've been saying this more and more as we get to the finish line. february 1st, the big day. you start it all. i've been saying it more and more. if we can win iowa which is, by the way, the only state of the
union where i'm close. florida just came down a little while ago. it was on "morning joe" and the different newscasts. just came down a little while ago. 48 -- 48% in florida. and you have a sitting senator, and he was at i think 11% or 12%. and you have a governor, a former governor, a bush, who spends a lot of money. you have bush, and he was less than that. i mean, it's amazing! people couldn't believe it. they said, there must be a mistake. 48%. florida is a very big, important state. not only in terms of this. somebody is from florida over there. somebody loves florida. but -- i love florida. but -- and i have a lot of investment in florida. big investments in florida. i employ thousands of people in florida. but florida is a special place. but very big, very powerful and very important in terms of the process. i have this massive lead in florida that everybody was saying, whoa, that has to be -- they actually thought it was a mistake when it went up. they thought the poll was a mistake. 48%. i am doing great all over.
if we can do well in iowa, we're going to run the table. if not, then i have to go and we've got to win new hampshire. now, new hampshire has been really strong. but they say bad psychological things happen if you lose, okay. and they're really putting more pressure on because they're saying, especially if trump loses because he always talks about winning, winning, winning, and if he loses iowa, that would be a terrible thing. the press. i don't know what the impact is, but i can tell you this, i think we're probably going to win. it's probably our closest state. i think we'll win iowa. it would be easier if i said, i just want to do well. good luck on the 1st. if you're busy don't bother. you have to go out and caucus. if we can win together, if we can win iowa -- i'm not going to say anything is over but even the biggest pundits, the worst liars and some guys that said we're never going to run. even if he runs, he's just going
to have a good time. not a good time. i love you people but i could be someplace else right now, okay. i could be very happy being someplace else. if we -- really, they say it. if we win iowa we're going to run the table. we may not lose a state because it's just going to feed. iowa is very important. and one other thing with iowa. there is a lot of talk about moving iowa to the middle or the back of the pack. not going to happen if i get elected. there is an incredible tradition. i have developed so many friends. i've been here a lot. i'll be here all next week. you'll be so sick of me. you're going to get sick. you're going to say, get the hell out of here, trump. don't worry about it. you're going to win. we don't want to take any chances. one of the reasons i said i spent little money but now i'm spending money. for two reasons. number one i feel guilty. i'm $38 million under budget. i have had so much air time i haven't had to spend any money. it's true. they give me so much television
air time. i'm on all the time. they have this report and that report all on trump. now a commercial. if i have a trump commercial then they go back to trump. the whole show plus the commercials. i say, if i put commercials on they'll o.d. on trump. it's no good. it's no good. we'll put him on now because i feel guilty. i really do. i haven't run commercials. so i just started. some good ones, i think. who knows. but we have a couple commercials going up. a lot of money. the other reason is i am so far under budget i really feel -- i don't want to take a chance. does that make sense? i feel confident. the polls are saying we're leading nationwide by a tremendous amount. i don't want to take a chance. i don't want to be cute. oh, i don't have to spend, i don't have to spend. so i'm not taking a chance and we're spending some good money. you're going to see some good commercials going up shortly. they're already up in iowa. some of you have probably seen them. are they good? i think they're pretty good. so iowa is so important because, by doing that we're sending a
signal. and that's why i want to win it. i don't want to lose by two votes where they say, well, trump came in second. that's okay. winning would be so incredible. look at these people. they don't stop. no matter where you go. no matter where you go, they don't stop. would you like me to stand up against it? no matter. it doesn't matter. i can't lose them. the paparazzi. look at them. i don't even know what the hell they do with all the pictures. they take pictures all day and then you see one picture in the newspaper. all that work for one picture? anyway, but they're very good. hey, look, we're all doing our thing, right? they're doing their thing. you're doing your thing. we're all doing our thing. the one thing we all have in common, including them, by the way, is we want to make america great again. we really do. we really do. the polls that have come out -- and i love talking about polls. my favorite subject, actually, as long as i'm number one. if i was number two -- and i always get killed on the polls because the other candidates come up to me, why do you always mention polls? because i am number one.
if you were number one you would be mentioning them too. i think i brought polls to a whole new art and a whole new level. i don't think other people, even if they were number one, used to talk about them. but i'm different. i talk about them. because when you're number one you talk about them. ready? we have a new poll came out. nbc news national. 38 for trump. second place is cruz in this one. 21. 38-21. third is rubio at 11. and in south carolina we're way, way, way, way above everybody. i mean, it's been incredible. reuters has us at 41%. gravis, 41%. wow! florida, just the one that just came out has us at 48%. georgia in the mid 30s and probably the low 40s because i saw one. in connecticut, 35%. we're at 35% and others are at 10, 12, 8, 2 and nothing. some guys are at nothing.
and i see them on television. yes, we'll never leave the race. you know they're leaving right away. i watched a couple politicians. he was at one or two. he said i'll never leave the race. the people are already calling, can you hire us, please? they're politicians. that's what they do. they talk. all talk, no action. that's what we don't need, you know. in iowa we have a great cnn poll, i told the other day -- i said why don't they use the cnn poll? even cnn doesn't use the cnn poll. it's too good. trump, 33, cruz is second at 20. i'm up by 13 points. nobody uses it. cnn reports, and they show other people's polls where it's closer. i say could i ask you -- by the way they spent a lot of money on the poll and i think their poll is probably better and more indicative. i think we might even be better than that. i said, why are you not using the poll that says 33-20? why are you using the one that
says 21-20. they can't answer. the answer is welcome to the world of trump or welcome to the world of being a conservative republican or welcome to whatever world it is. here they are. they pay for their own poll and they don't put it up. it's a little bit unfair, but these are minor details, folks. so the polls are looking good. everything is looking good. it's so important. and i stayed here last night and actually had good steak. you have good steak. i have always heard that. i had good steak last night. you should have. if you don't have good steak, who is going to have good steak? if they don't have good steak in iowa, we have problems, right? but you do. it was great. i want to say, though, and i said it a little and alluded to it. sarah mentioned it yesterday. sarah palin came in. she was so great yesterday and so popular. and amazing, actually. and everybody wanted her endorsement. she just saw what was happening. she said, you've got a movement. this is a movement going on. this is beyond what a normal
situation is. seriously, they were telling me, some of the other candidates would have like nine people and 20 people come in. even for hillary she had very few people coming in. you look at a crowd like this, and it's early in the morning, and all of that, and you know, it's -- something is happening out there. something really special. they used to call it the silent majority. i'm not -- i used to say the silent majority, i resurrected a term. some people didn't like the term because it was associated with nixon or it was associated with something. and i don't even care. it's just this great term but it's not really accurate. because the accurate is the noisy majority. we're really -- you have to see these people. they go crazy. we go into stadiums and they want to rip down the stadium sometimes. it's amazing. it's really become the noisy majority, and that's what we have. we have an amazing group of people that want to just see this country get great and be strong and be smart and not be ripped off with trade and not be ripped off with so many different things.
i mean, you look at china. a $505 billion. we have a trade deficit. what they get, what we get. $505 billion. a year! this isn't like in 20 years. this is a year. goes on. it goes on. and i have some of the great business leaders endorse me like carl icahn. who is a fantastic guy and a fantastic business leader. when he endorsed me, i mean, a lot of other business leaders also want to endorse me. problem is nobody ever heard of them. i said you don't have to endorse me. nobody knows who you are. you could be worth 5 million bucks but nobody cares. they're great negotiators and they want to do great things for the country. take china -- i have been talking about china for years. nobody knows how to negotiate with these people. i made a lot of money with china and dealing with china. i own a major building in california along with a
phenomenal building, the bank of america building in san francisco. 1290 avenue of the americas. big chunk of that. dealing with the chinese. i sell condos to the chinese a lot. i have them as tenants. the biggest bank of the world is a tenant of mine in one of my buildings. they pay me rent. the chinese are great people. the mexicans are great people, but their leaders are too smart for our leaders. they're cunning. they're smart. they toy with us like we're a bunch of dopes. they toy with us. they think everybody is like obama. they toy -- no, it's true. no, it's true. i mean, they toy with us. that won't happen anymore, folks. that won't happen. not going to happen. trump in iowa a day after having announced the sarah palin support for his candidacy. i want to bring in nbc's katy tur at the rally that's been under way. msnbc political correspondent steve kornacki and kelly
o'donnell. katy, a different venue from last night, right? >> this is a much different venue from all of the venues generally that trump does. this is a small, tiny tiny room comparison to most of his crowds but they do seem to be pretty receptive to trump today. we'll see how they are receptive with -- whether or not they're receptive with palin. last night the crowd with palin was not as receptive as many had expected. i think that's because it was a younger skewing crowd. iowa state students. many of these people were like 10 years old or around there when palin was running for vice president. the palin that they have in their heads centers a lot on the palin they saw on "saturday night live," not necessarily the political palin that came out early on -- or later on in the 2008 campaign. so they weren't as jazzed on sarah palin as some of the older folks in the crowd. a lot of the students i was talking to afterwards said that they basically just came for
what they called "the comedy" and they didn't seem to be laughing. they didn't really find it all that humerus. palin was a bit of -- had a bit of word soup last night. she said a lot of stuff, a lot of red meat, but she also referred to a lot of her greatest hits, if you will. she talked about joe six-pack and drill, baby drill, a lot of pithy lines in her speech to get the crowd going. but for the most part, the crowd stayed relatively silent during her speech last night. i think that's partially because donald trump comes off as so off the cuff when he comes on stage and she was very clearly reading from notes. it was a very different atmosphere. we do expect to see her here in just a few minutes, then also in tulsa later today. tulsa, oklahoma. unclear what she will do for the rest of the campaign, what role she will play. but the campaign does say that they are excited to have her and they do expect her to be pretty vocal for donald trump. we think it is going to be in something of a surrogate role, frankly, in the months to come.
>> we're seeing katy tur in that trump rally. we were seeing actually stereo trump, trump behind katy and trump on the left part of the screen, in case you don't see enough of him. steve, talk a little bit about the influence of sarah palin and the type of voter that she can bring to the table specifically in iowa where i guess this is really the important place that she can have a role. >> well, yeah, and that's the question. like katy is saying, it is true when you think about it, we're now january 2016. it has been a few years since sarah palin was really sort of a major day to day presence in american politics so it is a bit of an open question what impact it is going to have. in theory if you are the trump campaign what you are hoping for is this, you are looking at a race, say the race in iowa -- i know donald trump is spouting off all those polls there. we should point out that poll we were listening to him talk about saying hey, it's 33%-20% in iowa, that poll was conducted in the first week of december. it is a little dated by now. let's say it is a tie in iowa right now.
i think that's the fairest thing to say when you look at the accumulation of polls that are out there. if you're the trump campaign you are hoping that there is a collection of voters, a pretty large collection of voters in iowa who would call themselves sort of antiestablishment tea party grassroots republicans, whatever exact term they put on themselves. they're not fond of, they're very suspicious of the party establishment. they like ted cruz, they like donald trump. they're torn between the two of them right now. here's sarah palin. she is a very -- say whatever you want about her she is a very antiestablishment republican. she has credibility, at least in theory, with those exact voters who are torn between trump and cruz. from trump's standpoint, maybe that breaks the tie. >> kelly, you're familiar with palin as you watch her today and last night, how is she different from the sarah palin of 2008? >> reporter: well, in the beginning of the '08 campaign sarah palin was then a sitting governor with a very high approval rating and she was a part of the machine, always
going against the establishment, but doing it from inside elective office. she has changed dramatically over the years, letting that other side really emerge of being sort of the front person, a thought leader in this sort of angry, irritated, willing to fight back wing of the republican party and conservatives. part of what trump gets here is not only the attention that comes with sarah palin -- and that can be considerable. we've seen it over the last 24 hours -- but that narrow group of voters who do listen to her, who will be influenced by her. he gets the attention from the media. he gets the potential crowd activity. but he also does something else that's important in politics and in business. he keeps ted cruz from getting sarah palin. and that will be important because cruz has really tried to identify himself with sarah palin and her endorsement. that helped him become a member of the senate just a few years ago. so for palin, this is also a chance to come back on the national stage in a new way, to
try to sell herself as someone whose endorsements can make a difference. and she is also able to say the sorts of things that donald trump might need. he doesn't have the same credibility on issues that are important to evangelicals or sort of the gun rights group. she has plenty of credibility in that range. so when you look at a sarah palin endorsement for donald trump, it is not necessarily for the big, broad swath of voters. it's for a targeted group of voters in iowa whom ted cruz also wants to get. then it is the media buzz that we've seen unfold. >> kelly o'donnell, katy tur and steve kornacki, thank you all for being with me this morning. in our next hour, michigan cities in dire straits. the governor is apologizing for the contaminated water crisis in flint while 86 schools are closed today in detroit due to a wave of teacher sick-outs protesting conditions in the schools. plus an attack on a university in pakistan kills at least 20 people, leads to a gun
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which could be serious. ask your doctor about toujeo®. right now on msnbc, the trump-palin tour continues. donald trump rallying supporters in iowa with the polls tightening there, the national front-runner says second isn't good enough. >> i don't want to take a chance. does that make sense? in other words, i feel confident. the polls are all saying we're leading nationwide by a tremendous amount. i don't want to take a chance. i don't want to be cute. oh, i don't have to spend, i don't have to spend. so i'm not taking a chance so we're spending some good money. you're going to see some good commercials going out very shortly. and a live look at the white house this morning where one year from today, president obama will hand the keys over to a new president and the first votes now less than two weeks away. good morning once again. i'm jose diaz-balart. let's get right to our political team this morning, katy tur in
iowa with donald trump, along with msnbc political correspondent kasie hunt and steve kornacki. good morning to all of you. katy, how's the campaign trying to capitalize on this palin endorsement? >> well, right now, i'm going to move with the camera. hey. they are trying to use palin as much as they can in the next day. what they've done last night they introduced her. they're going to have her here in iowa, today, then take her over to tulsa, oklahoma for a rally at oral roberts university. they're trying to capture the attention with sarah palin right now, the attention of the media mostly. they want all of the headlines out there that they can get right now because it is such a tight race especially in iowa. he's fighting it out right now with ted cruz and he wants to suck the oxygen out of the room so ted cruz is not getting any attention or any positive attention. yesterday the attention on ted cruz was basically that he was having a pretty bad day losing out on the palin endorsement. of course she's spoken pretty
glowingly of ted cruz in the past, that she endorsed his 2012 senate run and he credited her with his win in that run. he also was pretty much thrown under the bus by governor branstadt in iowa saying he didn't believe the people here in iowa should be voting for him. the governor did deny it was an endorsement for donald trump. what donald trump is trying to do is take over another day of media headlines and that is why sarah palin will be out with him any minute now here in iowa. what he's trying to do basically in iowa is get new voters out to caucus, new people that haven't done it before. he's trying to motivate them to come out on what we've always called a cold february night. if he does that, the polls are showing that he will be able to overtake ted cruz. right now ted cruz is leading with likely caucusgoers. but donald trump does have a slight edge when it comes to new caucusgoers. what he's trying to do with sarah palin is get them excited
for something, get them energized, jazzed on her. but from the reaction in the room last night when she was introduced, when she officially endorsed him, i'm not entirely sure that it is going to be as successful as the campaign may hope. they were not excited about her for the most part, especially the younger crowd. the older people did seem to like her a little bit better, although some said that they weren't really quite sure why she was there and what sort of role that she would play in the trump administration. they didn't like the idea of her playing a role in it. i think a lot of them saw her as somebody who had her moment but her time had passed. so we'll see how this goes. we'll see how the room reacts to her today and how people at oral roberts react to her, if they get a better reception in the media and on televisions that might motivate more people. but right now it certainly fell flat yesterday. >> steve, if palin does give trump a boost in iowa, is iowa really the toughest nut to crack for trump right now in the
field? >> well, we can say iowa is the only state right now where donald trump is not clearly leading in the polls. i mean he continues to have basically in new hampshire a two to one advantage over his nearest rival. he benefits in new hampshire from this divided party establishment with rubio, christie, bush, kasich all gobbling up 10%, 12%, it leaves trump to sit there at about 30% and dominate there in new hampshire. he leads by about 10, 15 points in south carolina. in south carolina his nearest competitor is clearly ted cruz. there is a big evangelical population in south carolina, just as there is a big evangelical population in iowa. so if you're looking at this and you're donald trump and you're saying the only state right now where i'm not ahead is in iowa, the reason i'm not ahead in iowa is because ted cruz is doing very well with those evangelical voters. so if i can actually knock off ted cruz in iowa, if new hampshire then stays where it is right now and i win that, then
that gives me, donald trump, the advantage going down to south carolina and having to face off against ted cruz again because i'll have already beaten him in a state with some similarities to south carolina. if you're donald trump -- i mean if you put together iowa, new hampshire, south carolina, donald trump is going to be the nominee of this party. we're already at the point where we've never had anybody win those first two, iowa and new hampshire. even mitt romney. mitt romney came close to pulling that off in 2012, he lost iowa by about 15 votes but we've never had anybody pull off a clean sweep of those two. if donald trump could get over the hump in iowa -- that's a huge if right now -- but he could pull that off. >> there's also some fireworks on democratic side. hillary clinton is out with a new ad to try to close the deal. let's listen to a bit of it. >> first lady who helped get health care for 8 million kids. the senator who helped a city rise again. the secretary of state who stood up for america and stared down hostile leaders around the world
is the one candidate for president who has everything it takes to do every part of the job. >> she's clearly making the electability argument. is it sticking with voters, especial will in places like iowa and new hampshire? >> reporter: that's the fundamental question at this point, jose. of course we are currently outside bernie sanders' office on capitol hill. he is, of course, surging in many of these polls. we're seeing him both nationally closing the gap somewhat and particularly in new hampshire, he's way out ahead in polls of hillary clinton. that's part of what's prompting her to start to make this electability argument. we also saw "the new york times" reporting this morning a series of quotes from democrats, largely in red states where they're concerned that a bernie sanders at the top of the ticket would cause problems for people down the ballot. you had some particularly tough words from claire mccaskill, the senator from missouri, who's been a staunch clinton defender this time around, she's saying republicans might trot out a hammer and sickle to go after
sanders and that could cause problems in places like her home state of missouri. but the flip side is that voters don't really seem to be buying these electability arguments this year. people have pointed to the similarities between donald trump and bernie sanders campaign, both not spending time fund-raising, bernie sanders getting his money from small donations, but also talking quite a bit about how he's not being bought, he can't be bought. donald trump doing the same thing for a different reason of course. he has his own money to fund his campaign but that sort of populist message is at the root of both of them. we've seen trump pretty much trounce many of these establishment candidates. jeb bush has faced this as a very difficult year. if you look at hillary clinton's path forward, if sanders does in fact manage to capitalize on this surge, manages to do better in iowa than anyone expected, or even beat her in iowa which would of course be a repeat of what happened to her in 2008, i think that would underscore the real difficulty of run is -- whether you want to call it establishment or you want to call it people who have been in
politics for a long time. it doesn't seem to be what the voters are looking for this time around. that, of course, is what hillary clinton is selling with those years of experience that she's talking about. i would also point out quickly, bernie sanders did an interview last night with our own rachel maddow and he talked about planned parenthood, the human rights campaign, you're seeing a lot of push back from groups today saying that's not the case so just keep an eye on that one. >> will do. thank you all for being with me this morning. now to breaking news out of northwestern pakistan where a team of taliban gunmen reportedly scaled the walls at a university shooting at professors and students. at least 20 people are dead. dozens more wounded. waj, good morning. what's the latest on how this unfolded? >> good morning. it is a terrible, terrible day.
it started with a lot of fog and early morning fog and that's what terrorists from the taliban took advantage of, scaled a ten-foot wall, used wire cutters and approached the heavily populated building on campus, the male dormitory, where most students died. they went from room to room. each room had three to four occupants. they kicked it in and sprayed bullets and kept moving on. soon enough they were encountered by local campus security. 54 campus security officials who held these four attacksers back for around 50 minutes, almost an hour before the police came in and the army came in. by that time these guys had claimed 20 lives, most of them students and professors. and over 60 had been injured. it was a door to door fight
before the security officials cornered these guys into a stairwell where at least one of them blew himself up and the other two were shot dead. overall the gun fight lasted around a couple of hours. they were carrying ak-47 assault rifles, any had military style gear. there was a search ongoing for any ieds or any booby-traps by the time we got to the scene. these guys would have put in place security officials. but bottom line is we heard this one analysis from everyone, whether from security officials or students or professors, survivors we talked to, that these guys knew what they were doing. they came in prepared. they knew which building to hit, the most heavily populated building. they knew that there was going to be more people on campus than usual.
they approached the dorm from the northern and southern side and you can always trap people in the stairwell and that's where they set up shop, in that stairwell. that one single stairwell where they tried to block. >> thank you very much for that report out of pakistan this morning. i want to take you now to flint, michigan and new developments in the water contamination crisis or catastrophe as the governor is now calling it with growing calls for his resignation. governor rick snyder says he will release his own e-mails today relating to the lead contamination of the flint water war supply. in last night's state of the state address, he apologized for the state's response and promised new steps to address the crisis. msnbc's tony dokoupil joins us from flint this morning. good morning. what are some of the new steps that he's going to be taking mean? >> reporter: morning, jose. a big speech last night from the governor. there was the apology, then
there was also a short-term action plan, $28 million. that money is going to do three things primarily, more water, more water filters for people here in flint, more national guard troops going door to door to make sure people have those filters and enough drinking water. and for the parents of flint, it is treatment for the children who have been exposed to lead that came out of this river behind me. the other big news out of the speech was an extremely full-throated and direct apology from governor snyder. take a listen to that. >> i am sorry and i will fix it. no citizen of this great state should endure this kind of catastrophe. government failed you. federal, state and local leaders, by breaking the trust you placed in us. i'm sorry most of all that i let you down. you deserve better. you deserve accountability. >> reporter: so you hear the governor there speaking about accountability, using the words "i'm sorry," he'll fix it.
but at the same time throughout the speech he deflected blame away from his own office, pushed it down on to state officials at the health department and the department of environmental quality. he also blamed the epa. he's trying to spread it around here. it's become a big political problem and it is a presidential political problem because bernie sanders and hillary clinton are calling for the governor's resignation, criticizing him heavily. michigan is a state that only narrowly went to obama in 2012. this fight is definitely not going away, it is heating up. we'll look closely at those e-mails which we hope to get later this afternoon. >> tony dokoupil, thank you very much. in our next hour, cher joins tamron hall to talk about how she's helping the people affected by the flint water crisis. also in michigan, more than 80 public schools in detroit closed today due to massive teacher sick-out. they're protesting the district's financial conditions in what they call horrible working conditions notice schools. some of the teachers have taken their complaints online posting pictures of run down classrooms, pipes sticking out of walls and
leaking toilet pipes just to name a couple. cal perry, msnbc senior editor for video an digital content, has been following the story for us. cal, what more have you seen? >> this really started on january 11th, the first sort of wave of the sick-outs. as you said, 88 of the 100 schools in the district closed today. that's the majority of the 50,000 students sitting at home. the teachers have taken to social media for this campaign. we'll show you some of the photos. this is all coming from the handle @teachdetroit. a lot of this is just structural damages to the schools, the average age of a school in this district is 47 years old. teachers have declared today that it is pretty much an unworkable situation. some of the photos pretty shocking. bullet holes in the classrooms. pieces of glass just falling down. the teachers walked out today. they've timed this with president obama's visit to detroit. he'll be doing the auto show there today so that will make for some interesting pictures. this is a school district that
is $3 billion in debt. it has the same emergency manager that used to run flint so the teachers are not really happy about that. they're becoming more and more vocal and we will follow the story throughout the day. of course, it is not known how they are going to solve this problem. there needs to be federal funds brought in to these schools to sort of kick start it again. but with $3 billion of debt, it is definitely an uphill climb. lots ahead on this busy wednesday morning. we're continuing to monitor the sell-off on wall street. let's look at the numbers -- ooh. down 324! it's all about a bear market, oil and what this means for you. plus, a major winter storm heading for the east coast. more than 50 million americans in the path of a potentially historic snowmaker. the latest storm track next on msnbc. the biggest challenge for business today is not competition, it's protecting customer trust. every day you read headlines about governments and businesses being hacked, emails compromised, and intellectual
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as election year continues to heat up, we are getting better insights on the importance of different voter groups throughout the country in a new pew research report. it says the latino vote will reach a record high. millenials making up 44%, followed by african-americans and asians ending with whites. but according to a recent nbc/"wall street journal" poll, latino voters view the lead republican presidential candidate donald trump unfavorably. continues to be a major negative one. will it matter in the long run? "usa today" reporter allan gomez joins me to discuss this poll. good to see you. so if you look at the numbers since 1980, i guess it is no republican has won with the majority of the latino votes. right? george w. bush won twice. got 44% of the latino vote which was at the time a high water mark. do republicans need latino
voters in order to win? >> well, absolutely, they do. mitt romney got 27% of hispanic vote and that was one of the things that helped doom his campaign. so what we're seeing so far from the republicans i don't really see much that appeals to hispanic voters right now. but the question now becomes how important is that hispanic vote? the numbers keep going up. the hispanic electorate just keeps skyrocketing, up to 27 million, up from 7 million -- potential voters, eligible voters. the question is whether they get out there. and because of that stat you just showed that nearly half of them are millenials, we know very well that young people don't vote. so the question is can they get mobilized, can they get out there and have an impact. >> what kind of impact can young people have in this election? >> well, for any group, they need something to get mobilized. we saw that to some degree during president obama's first couple runs. in this one they're going to need something else to get excited about. i don't know how much young
enthusiasm there is for any candidate that's leading the races but one thing that could really factor in to that is the supreme court decision on the president's immigration plan. >> which is expected this summer. why do you think that's important and what do you think that could prompt? >> well, if you think back to 2012, that's when the president announced he was going to create daca to protect young dreamers from deportation. >> it was just months before the election when there wasn't a lot of heat around supporting the president at that time by some young latinos. >> exactly. then all of a sudden you had some more enthusiasm and more mobilization efforts to get to the polls. whatever the supreme court decides they'll announce it in june. whatever that decision is, could be an incredibly big mobilizing force if, for example, they approve the program and it goes into effect. all of a sudden you have millions of undocumented immigrants in this country applying for the president's plan and you'll have a democratic nominee embracing that and championing it and that's going to drive -- that's going to help push along. if it gets struck down and the
republicans are championing that, then all of a sudden you have hispanics angry at that republican candidate and angry that they were so excited about that go being down. either way, i think it is going to really drive a lot of hispanics coming into the election. >> coincidentally, couple of months before the election. >> exactly. perfect timing. a nasty winter storm could unleash a massive amount of snow along parts of the east coast impacting more than 50 million people. in fact, every large city in the northeast is facing the threat of snow, ice and treacherous conditions. nbc meteorologist dylan dreyer is closely monitoring the storm. but first let's check back with nbc's gabe gutierrez in nashville, tennessee where a different storm system is making things tough there this morning. right? >> reporter: that's right, jose. even within the past hour we've seen this weather change a bit from -- started off as freezing rain, then it moved to sleet, then we got some snow. now it is back to light sleet.
there is a winter storm advisory here in effect in the nashville area until 7:00 p.m. eastern time. as you see behind me, the trucks here at the tennessee department of transportation have been busy all morning, actually threw the overnight hours. officials here in nashville say they have about 8,000 tons of salt here in this area and they've been pretreating the roads since yesterday with brine. this winter storm has impacted many states. missouri has seen several inches of snow. just to our north in kentucky we've seen a few inches of snow, as well as georgia. there has been several of the northern counties there in georgia have been declared states of emergency. there's been some traffic tie-ups here. here in the nashville area the morning commute was snarled, they thick roads across parts of the area, several accidents and traffic tie-ups. a winter storm advisory is in effect until 7:00 p.m. eastern time. many public schools are closed. but the tennessee department of transportation says it is
prepared. this is their first major winter storm of the season. still, jose, it is nothing like what is expected for the northeast over the next couple of days. but still, a very difficult morning commute here in the nashville area. back to you. >> gabe gutierrez, thank you very much. let's talk about the weekend with msnbc meteorologist dylan dreyer. how are you? >> very busy following the different computer models that we're watching. of course the american model verses the european model determines exactly what we're going to see with this storm and there is still a lot of time to iron out the details. let's break down for you the first storm that gabe is standing in right now. these quick clipper systems produce a couple of impls of snow, they're in, they're out, they cause their mess and they move on. we are going to continue to see snow spread eastward through even tennessee today, then it makes its way to the mountains and fizzles out. it is a quick moving system but it will still produce a couple inches of snow. both of this is on the ground
near nashville. knoxville seeing some of the heavier snow. we could see isolated areas in higher elevations with six to eight inches but most areas two to four. ice is also an issue. we started off this system with sleet and fraeezing rain. so very icy conditions in southern areas of tennessee and that will continue to fizzle out as this whole storm system spreads east. so let's talk about the big storm for the weekend. here it is. doesn't look like much. it still has some time before it gets its act together. it is going to dive to the southeast. then eventually pick up moisture from the gulf of mexico and that's going to help to fuel this system. let's break it down for you. thursday night, there's not that much happening. we will see some areas of stronger storms through louisiana and into mississippi, alabama and the panhandle of florida. we will also see a wintry mix start to fill in across arkansas. some icing possible through central kentucky. then as we go into friday morning, we're still not looking at a whole lot of effects through the mid-atlantic. it is gathering back through tennessee and still into
kentucky and into the appalachians. as we go through the day friday, snow starts to spread into areas like washington, d.c. by friday night it starts to work through washington, d.c., producing heavier snow. then eventually it moves in to philadelphia. then new york city. then up into boston, maybe by the time we get into sunday. that all depends on the track of the storm and it is still too early to determine exactly where this area of low pressure is going to move. that being said, this storm is going to strengthen, producing strong northeasterly winds, heavy precipitation and strong northeast winds. on top of that, we also have a full moon, that means a very high tood saturday morning, leading to some coastal flooding winds could gust up to 60 miles per hour. if this goes this way boston won't see much. but if this storm goes a little farther to the northeast we will see perhaps six inches or more of snow in boston and gusty winds as well. the estimate based on the american model, up to three feet of snow in the appalachians with
d.c. picking up two feet. a foot in new york city. about six inches in boston. mountain of virginia and west virginia. those are the details we will iron out in the next couple days. coming up, "washington post" reporter jason rezaian made his first public appearance since being released from an iranian prison. more when we come back. the future belongs to the fast. and to help you accelerate, we've created a new company... one totally focused on what's next for your business. the true partnership where people,technology and ideas push everyone forward. accelerating innovation.
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asked how he was, he said so-so. he released a statement simultaneously in which he says he's feeling fine. he says, i've spent a lot of my life writing about the united states and iran and i never imagined -- i never wanted to become part of the story particularly at such an extraordinary moment. i want to get back to writing the u.s.-iran story at some point in the future but i won't be saying anything further for a while, he says. amir hekmati, the marine held in iran for four and a half years has been talking about his experience in prison in iran. he says he never thought he would actually be released. >> you know, i was at a point where i had just sort of accepted the fact that i was going to be spending ten years in prison. so this was a surprise. and i just feel extremely blessed to see my government do so much for me and the other americans. >> how much warning did you get that you were going -- >> nothing, really. they just came one morning and said pack your things.
>> reporter: they all do, you're right, jose, want to get back home. they're anxious to do that. they are being treated well here, they say, getting very good care. by jason rezaian saying in his statement, for now, i want to catch up with what's been going on in the world, watch a warriors game or two and see the "star wars" movie. >> that's a great idea! i want to watch that "star wars" movie, too. hey, keir, thanks. up next -- beyond top secret. that's the latest bombshell revelation from the inspector general investigating hillary clinton's e-mail server. new details on that in ex. you focus on making great burgers, or building the best houses in town. or becoming the next highly-unlikely dotcom superstar. and us, we'll be right there with you, helping with the questions you need answered to get your brand new business started. we're legalzoom and we've already partnered with over a million new business owners to do just that.
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olivia, what's happening? >> appears that the sell-off is picking up momentum, the dow off nearly 400 points already this morning. the s&p and dow are trading at their lowest levels in near lly5 months. traders focused on selling, commenting on asia. overnight the nikkei fell into bear terth meaniritory meaning % off from its recent peak. the cheapest level for crude in over 12 years, below $28 a barrel. ibm, big blue reporting after the bell yesterday saying that their forecast would be a little bit shy of what analysts were looking for. that's caused a lot of disappointment. ibm, the third most heavily weighted stock in the dow so that's dragging the broader market down with it. >> man. numbers just keep dropping. 384. olivia, thank you. there is a new question
about the hillary clinton e-mail controversy this morning. nbc news confirms that e-mails from clinton's home server contain information classified at the highest levels. that includes top-secret. a level called special access program which is reserved for some of the most closely held u.s. intelligence matters. this is all according to a letter sent by the intelligence community's inspector general. a clinton campaign spokesman tells nbc news, "these e-mails were not classified at the time they were sent or received. the justice department's inquiry should be allowed to proceed without any further interference." msnbc's chief legal correspondent ari melber is here to tell us how this could affect the department of justice investigation into mrs. clinton. >> good morning, jose. viewers will be excused for feeling some deja vu. we've heard a lot about hillary clinton's e-mails. as a reporter, some of what we've heard has been off base and politically motivated. this report i would put in the objective category. this is a real legal
investigation with real consequences, jose. the issue here is that, according to investigators, and the material that has been reviewed, more of it now getting that top-secret classification and that is an issue. the clinton campaign's defense, i will say, legally does help her because they argue she is not personally involved in many of these documents, jose, number one. and number two, as you read, they may not have been classified at the time. i also want to read something from senator dianne feinstein who's seen as fairly hawkish and fair on this. she says, "none of the e-mails alleged to contain classified information were written by secretary clinton and none of the e-mails she writes were sent to secretary clinton were marked as including classified information." again, the key there being contemporaneously, fancy legal word for at the time. they weren't classified. but -- here's the but that could matter in this federal investigation, jose. but, the government cares about the operational security of this
material even if it is classified later. and the argument here is that had. been kept in the best proper conditions, in a government server, not a private server, that later classification would have been fine but it was exposed essentially to extra potential leaking and otherwise insecure means because it was on that unclassified and private server. so again, the legal line here -- that's not illegal in and of itself. but these disclosures show why the feds are interested in this even if it doesn't reflect the political interest, which is did hillary clinton do something wrong. bottom line, jose -- not a report of hillary clinton personally doing something wrong at the time, but a report about why this whole arrangement was not ideal. >> ari, just how many of these do we know? e-mails contain different levels of classification of secret stuff on them even though they weren't labeled as such then.
do we know how many? >> we don't know the total number. this has been what's called a rolling production. which means in the judicial side of release, we're only getting pieces at a time. that makes it imperative for people wanting to be fair-minded not just looking for pan agenda against the clintons. but i will say the vast majority of the materials in this classified bucket weren't at the time. right? so we aren't talking about a high number, dozens or hundreds or whatever, that were classified at the time. we haven't reached the end of the whole process. some of this has come through basically congressional oversight, writing letters and getting responses, and some has come from the rolling production. it does get complicated. i think it would be fa irto say a small number with regard to what was actually classified at the time. but again, people who say, okay, where's the smoke, where's the fire for hillary clinton if this was all after the fact, 20-20 hindsig hindsight, et cetera. i guess the reason the feds are interested not who is involved and her name and the fact she is running for president but what
the federal fbi investigators look at is, this is why you want the whole thing to be more secure in the first place. >> ari melber, thank you very much. appreciate it. this afternoon, the department of homeland security will testify before a senate judiciary committee on a report showing that nearly 500,000 immigrants overstayed their visas last year. according to the first of its kind report, an estimated 40% of the 11 million undocumented immigrants living in the u.s. are visa overstays. not people crossing the border. today's testimony comes a day after the supreme court's pivotal decision to hear the case on president obama's executive beings as on immigration. joining me now is the organizing director for the progressive leadership alliance of nevada, asstr asstrid, the president highlighted you and your family's story on the day he announced his executive action on immigration. this affects you personally as well. how did this decision by the supreme court play with you? >> you know, it definitely brought a lot of relief to my
family. but more than anything, we know that this is going to be implemented eventually. our family has continued fighting for it. not only my family but the millions of other families. nobody has given up hope yet. many of them know that had we had congressional action, that this wouldn't even have been necessary. our families are still continuing the fight and i think that, if anything, yesterday i received a lot of calls of relief and excitement and asking what else they could do to help move this along. >> astrid, you know this better than anybody else, where there may be relief and excitement, there is also the reality that people are getting deported every single day. >> definitely. my dad still has an order of deportation coming up soon. it affects us every single day and i think people forget that while we are waiting for this action that could help 5 million people, there are still people who won't even qualify once it is implemented. so that's why we have to continue fighting for
congressional -- an actual law that will change this. we know we had the opportunity, we were very close in 2013 when the senate passed a bipartisan bill. i think that we need to continue on this because every single day that these families are being separated changes millions of lives. so we can't stop at just dapa. we need to continue until this happens in congress. >> nelson, talk to us about this report and why it's taken this lock to make long to make a record of people coming in and out of the country. >> i think it's already been known there's a lot of visa overstayers. there is a significant component of individuals who are part of now an unauthorized population living in the united states. the key then again is how do we crea create avenues so that individuals can fully participate in the country that they're now calling home. >> how would that happen? >> well, as astrid mentioned,
unfortunately, it is congressional inaction which has led us to this point where the president of the united states has to create executive actions whereby this is something that the congress should have been doing for a long, long time. our immigration system is outdated. it is not meeting the needs of today's economy and many other things that we need to do in order to be fully competitive. >> astrid, part of immigration reform would include obviously dealing with the fact that the visa system is outdated, but also the fact that a lot of people who come in here legally through their visas overstay their visas and there's no way to find out where they are, who they are or how long they've been here. so that would also be included in any process of immigration reform. >> definitely. that's why we need an actual congressional bill that would go through and that would help resolve all these problems because the system's not broken. the system's working how it should be. it is getting rid of our family members. it's separating our families.
but it is outdated. i think that every single day that passes that congress doesn't take action on this is a day that our families are out there, they're organizing themselves. we're having a citizen workshop next week and hundreds of those people out there, here at least in las vegas, they have family members that are undocumented and they're engaged, they're paying attention because they know that they are the difference between us getting deported and between us remaining with our families. >> astrid silva, nelson castillo, thank you both for being with me. up next -- growing concerns about the mosquito born zika virus. puts unborn babies at risk. five cases have been reported in the united states. 73% of americans try...
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jihadi john. msnbc correspondent ayman mohyeldin joins us now. talk to me about this. is this the same jihadi john that had been taken out already? >> yeah. this ss is the 13th installment this online magazine. this publisher claims to be the details of his life and as they described it his journey to becoming this leader within the organization the world has known as jihadi john. he was killed in an air strike believed -- believed to be a u.s. air strike in november of 2015. according to this magazine they detailed his personal jour in i saying that he rose among the ranks in what he did and certainly paying tribute to the life that he led and certainly as a propaganda magazine you can understand how this is going to have an appeal in terms of trying to recruit other followers. but it did provide some interesting details not only about his life but also about some of the other recent
terrorist attacks, including those in paris, as well as the one that we saw in california, in san bernardino. the magazine publishing pictures of that attack and celebrating it as an act of martyrdom for those two individuals. certainly, again, very difficult to verify the details that they are putting forward, but that is again the tactic of isis propaganda, to try and recruit more followers by putting these individuals up and celebrating what acts they have done. and also, as mentioned, providing profiles and pictures of those that were behind the paris attacks. that's certainly significant item as well because though we know many of these attackers had traveled to syria, including the ringleader of the paris attacks and had some connection to isis, it once again shows that the organization is very much operating, putting out its propaganda, celebrating those attacks and calling for further attacks in both europe, the united states and australia. >> ayman mohyeldin, thank you very much. an update on the u.s. cases of the zika virus.
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now to growing anxiety surrounding the zika virus. it's made its way to the united states. within the last 24 hours, five more u.s. residents have been diagnosed with the mosquito borne virus, two in illinois, three in florida. on friday, a baby born in hawaii became the first in the u.s. with the birth defect linked to the zika virus. seventh case has been reported in texas. right now i'm joined by a doctor with nyu's school of medicine. people may be getting more and more nervous about this. i think rightfully so. >> zika by itself is a viral illness and it is not necessarily that dangerous unless you are pregnant. most people who get it would have mild symptoms of a virus, fever, rash, maybe some pink eye and some muscle aches. even a large number of people don't have any symptoms at all. but the thing is, if you are pregnant, the problem is that it
can infect the baby and then it can cause severe brain damage potentially and a miscarriage. for pregnant women traveling to the affected countries in latin america should take precautions to protect themselves from mosquitoes. >> true. but now we're seeing in texas, california and in florida and illinois. i mean this is where it's been already detected. right? we're talking about a wide swath of central america and south america, haiti. the question is, a lot of these folks that can have this come over here visiting and is that -- is it possible for someone that comes from those countries, that comes here, could somehow transfer it over? >> they can transfer it over. it is really through the mosquitoes alone. but there are some issues. so for example, the cdc issued some guidelines yesterday that women who are concerned about the zika virus who are pregnant, who have had this history of travel or have had these symptoms should actually be
offered further testing. with the further testing, you can get a blood test but that's not actually done everywhere so that's a potential issue and the test is only effective for a couple weeks so it is hard to tell if someone's actually had the infection or not. and then the second point is also that even for women who might have been exposed to zika virus, it's not guaranteed that the baby would necessarily be affected. so some of the things that are offered at that point they may not be -- >> let me ask you, if you are a pregnant woman and you do worry about it, is there a treatment for zika if you have it and you are pregnant? >> no. that's the most concerning part. from's no vaccine and there's no specific treatment. if the mother is planning to continue with the pregnancy no matter what, there may not be as much of an advantage to having the test. first, it might come back as a false positive and second it might cause a lot of anxiety, it might not change your actual
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are doing to help the people of flint. and tracking what's expected to be a major snowstorm on the east coast that could dump two feet of snow or more and cause power outages across the east coast. good morning, everyone. we begin with 2016 politics. sarah palin was a no-show this morning at a donald trump campaign stop in iowa despite being expected to appear alongside the republican front-runner. in an e-mails to supporters sent out yesterday, the trump campaign promised "a very special guest at this morning's event in norwalk, iowa," an event that wrapped up moments ago after a 40-minute speech from trump with no sign of the form he alaska governor. palin was also expected to join trump in oklahoma later this afternoon at a rally at oral roberts university in tulsa. a press release from the campaign said palin would travel with trump to both events. it all comes of course less than 24 hours after palin's high-profile