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>> we did differ. a vote in 2002 is not a plan to defeat isis. we have to look at the threats that we face right now. >> sparks fly at the first one-on-one debate with hillary clinton and bernie sanders. the candidates offering their sharpest distinctions ahead of the new hampshire primary. plus, mother and son. barbara bush speaks up for jeb after once throwing cold water on the idea of a third bush president. and did marco rubio have a single accomplishment while in the senate? well, if so, someone should tell his newest surrogate. 5:30 on the east coast, 2:30 out west, this is "way too early." good morning, it's friday,
february the 5th. i'm louis burgdorf. we begin with new polling released just ahead of last night's democratic debate showing bernie sanders holding on the his sizable lead in new hampshire. our new nbc news/"wall street journal"/maris poll shows sanders with a 20 point advantage over clinton. now, secretary clinton got a chance to make up some ground in the candidates' only debate before votes are cast in some of their most contentious exchanges of the campaign thus far, the two sparred over who guest embodies progressive value, what it means to be part of the establishment and the role of money in politics. >> our campaign is a campaign of the people, by the people, and for the people. so rachel, yes, secretary clinton does represent the establishment. i represent i hope ordinary americans and by the way who are not all that enamored with the establishment. >> well, look, i've got to just jump in here because honestly,
senator sanders is the only person who i think would characterize me a woman running to be the first woman president as exemplifying the establishment. and i have got to tell you that it is -- it is really quite -- it's really quite amusing to me. >> being part of the establishment is is in the last quarter having a super pac that raised $15 million from wall street that throughout one's life raised a whole lot of money from the drug companies and other special interests. >> it's fair to really ask what's behind that comment. you know, senator sanders has said he wants to run a positive campaign. i have tried to keep my disagreements over issues as it shown. but time and time again, by
innuendo, by insinuation, there is this attack that he is putting forth. which really comes down to, you know, anybody who ever took donations or speaking fees from any interest group has to be bought. and i just absolutely reject that, senator. and i really don't think these kinds of attacks by insinuation are worthy of you. and enough is enough. if you have something to say, say it. directly. but you will not find that i ever changed a view or a vote because of any donation that i ever received. and i have stood up and i have represented my constituents to the best of my ability and i'm very proud of that. so i think it's time to end the very artful smear that you and your campaign have been carrying out in recent weeks and let's
talk -- let's talk about the issues. >> let's talk about issues. all right, let's talk about why in the 1990s wall street got deregulated. did it have anything to do with the fact that wall street provided -- spend billions of dollars on lobbying and campaign contributions? well, some people might think that had some influence. >> you're the one who voted to deregulate swaps and derivatives in 2000 which contributed to the overleveraging of lehman brothers that brought down the economy. i'm not impugning the motive because you voted to deregulate the swaps and derivatives. i'm not saying you did it for a financial advantage. >> foreign policy has taken a
back seat for the sanders campaign, but last night clinton and sanders went back and forth over a number of global issues. the two tried to define the issue as a question of experience versus judgment. >> secretary clinton who was secretary of state for four years has more experience, that's not arguable in foreign affairs. but experience is not the only point. judgment is. and once again, back in 2002 when we both looked at the same evidence about the wisdom of the war in iraq, one of us voted the right way and one of us didn't. >> when it comes to judgment having run a hard race against senator obama at the time, he turned to me to be secretary of state. and when it comes to the biggest counterterrorism issues that we faced in this administration, namely whether or not to go after bin laden i was at that table. i was exercising my judgment to advise the president what to do on that, on iran, on russia, on
china. on a whole raft of issues. >> turning now to the republican field, yesterday rick santorum faced a simple question about his pick for president. marco rubio. >> he's been in the senate for four years. can you name his top accomplishment in the senate, actually working in the senate doing something that tilted your decision to marco rubio? >> you know, here's what i would say about that. my feeling on marco is someone who has tremendous potential, tremendous gifts. if you look at being a minority in the united states senate in a year where nothing -- four years where nothing got done, i guess it's hard to say there are accomplishments. >> the republicans have been in the majority for the past two years. can you name one thing that he's passed? a vote -- that he's passed in the last two years. >> joe, joe, look. the republicans have been a majority for one year and one month of which as you know, he was running for president primarily. >> the interview put the freshman senator in damage control while his opponents
pounced. >> let's be fair to rick. rick has spent the better part of the first year and half running for president on his campaign. he endorsed us last night so i wouldn't expect him to be entirely familiar with my record and my time. bottom line i'm proud of my service and public record. we have real achievements in my time as speaker of the house and the state legislature. we're focused on moving forward and i can tell you the most important job of the president is being commander in chief. there's no one who has a better understanding of the national security issues than i have. >> i watched senator santorum on television this morning, it was fascinating. they gave senator santorum three minutes, that's a lot of time on television. three minutes to name one accomplishment of senator rubio. one. just one. it took him three minutes. he finally came up with he fought some amendment on obamacare at one point.
let me tell you, they're saving a place on mt. rushmore after that one. >> senator rubio suggested that he led the charge to increase sanctions for hezbollah and it passed without him even being there. >> for jeb bush, campaign is increasingly a family affair last night his mother former first lady barbara bush joined him on the trail, drawing one of the biggest crowds in new hampshire yet. they brought them to their feet as she explained why he should be president. >> it's wonderful to be here and to be with the world's nicest man. but jeb is the nicest, wisest, most caring, loyal,
disciplined -- that's good. not by me. but he's not a bragger. we don't allow that. >> not in attendance, former president bush 41 and his son choked up while talking about him. >> my dad was this perfect, idyllic man who to this day is the greatest man alive. [ applause ] but she was the one that taught us right and wrong, i can promise you that. >> the super pac supporting jeb bush will run an ad featuring his brother. and newly released recordings are fuelling the fire that cruz told caucusgoers that ben carson was dropping out. nbc news has not independently
verified the calls you're about to hear. but can confirm the calls like these were made. >> ted cruz campaign calling to get to a precinct captain and it's been announced that ben carson is taking a leave of absence from the campaign trail. so it is very important that you tell any ben carson voters that for tonight, that they not waste a vote on ben carson and vote for ted cruz. he is taking a leave of absence, okay, thank you, bye. >> hello, this is the cruz campaign with breaking news. dr. ben carson lob suspending his campaign following tonight's caucuses. please inform any carson caucusgoers of this news and urge them to vote for ted cruz. >> cruz spokes woman katherine fraser said that the senator has apologized for not clarifying more quickly that carson would not be suspending his campaign. frazier said there's no evidence that any of it impacted his campaign. carson by the way has yet to return to the campaign trail.
an nbc news has learned that carson is cutting a significant chunk of staff amid the money problems. around 50 staffers will be let go. all right, now let's go to capitol hill and the so called pharma bro. ceo martin shkreli who defended 5,000% price hike on life-saving hiv drugs remained defiant as congress tried to gets ans from him. nbc's anne thompson reports. >> reporter: appearing to smirk -- >> are you listening? >> reporter: and often inattentive. >> yes. >> reporter: martin shkreli lived up to the bad boy reputation appearing before congress. >> i intend to use the advice of my counsel, not yours. >> reporter: posing for pictures instead of listening. >> it's not funny, mr. shkreli. people are dying and they're getting sicker and sicker. >> reporter: shkreli declined to
answer why the company he once led raised the price of a life saving drug 5,000%. >> do you think you have done anything wrong? >> on the advice of counsel, i invoke my fifth amendment privilege. >> reporter: under federal indictment for unrelated securities fraud, the 32-year-old shkreli usually loves to talk. >> i'm from the streets. >> reporter: he let his attorney speak for him. >> some of what you saw was nervous energy by an individual who very much would like to explain what happened. >> reporter: leaving the other drug company executives to face furious questioners. >> i find it repulsive what you've done. >> shkreli later took to twitter calling lawmakers quote imbeciles. the white house is proposing a $10 per barrel tax on oil and that would be phased in over five years to pay for $300 billion worth of green transportation projects over the next decade.
cnbc's geoff cutmore has more from london. the backlash from the oil industry was swift and immediate. >> yeah, absolutely. i mean, depending on which way you look at this, i think depends on how you vote. and the republicans coming out and saying this is a back door tax on consumers, whilst the democrats of course would say this is a sensible way of trying to fund infrastructure projects at a time when oil price per barrel is lower. the bottom line on this, it will add 24 cents a gallon to the cost that motorists have to bear as they brim their tanks and i think that will not go down very well. but for those who oppose it, one crumb of comfort, it will be presented before congress next week and right now there is no bipartisan agreement on these congressional budget bills. so difficult to see how the democrats will actually get this through. but keep your eye on it because it will levy a cost.
it would be the first increase i guess in fuel taxes in 25 years in the united states. so an interesting idea. i just don't know whether it's going to run at this point. moving on very interesting day today. we get the nonfarm payroll numbers on january. so this is important employment data that gives us a sense of how the economy is doing. the bright spots in the big city banks talking about the jobs added, but it's worth bearing in mind as we come into this number, we had a weak challenger jobs number indkating that -- indicating that firings are at a six-month high and most of that pain being taken in the retail sector. so an important day as far as the job stats are concerned. back to you. >> look forward to the job numbers. geoff cutmore, thanks. this morning we are learning
more about the explosion that forced a somali plane to make an emergency landing shortly after takeoff this week. nbc news has learned the blast which tore a hole in the plane's fuselage appears to have been caused by a bomb. that conclusion was echoed by the airline's chief executive who told the associated press that investigators discover what appear to be explosive residue. one passenger was killed after he was blown out of the plane by the blast. somali officials is not believed to be the bomber. the terrorist group al shabaab is suspected in the blast. all right, still ahead on "way too early," remembering another trail blazer in the music industry. dave mirra, a legend in the x games has died as well. we'll look back on his legacy and how he helped to pioneer extreme sports. and a check on the weather ahead of the new hampshire primary and super bowl sunday when "way too early" comes right back.
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welcome back to "way too early." sad news from the world of extreme sports. bmx icon dave mirra has died. he was found in a truck in greenville, north carolina, with what is believed to be a self-inflicted gunshot wound. he won more x games gold medals than any other competitor in the history the event. 244 in all. and 14 of them gold. tony hawk tweeted, good-bye, dave mirra. a true pioneer, icon and legend. thank you for the memories. we are heartbroken. he was 41 years old. all right, to some headlines out of the nfl now. dallas police have closed the investigation into cleveland browns quarterback johnny manziel and will not file
charges regarding an incident involving manziel and an ex-girlfriend last week. colleen crowley alleged manziel threw her into the car during an altercation. she says he also hit her with an open hand which affected her hearing in the aftermath. however, dallas police have found a lack of evidence to pursue the matter any further. the browns meanwhile denounce manziel's off the field actions in a statement earlier this week. espn reports they'll part ways with him in march. let's turn to some lighter news out of scotts dale, arizona where the phoenix open kicked off yesterday. it was a golfer you haven't heard of who made the swing of the day on the course's famed 16th hole. eldrick the robot golfer nails a hole in one on the par 3 16th in what was reportedly his fifth swing ever. look at that. he holes it, bang. eldrick of course is tiger woods' birth name, but his name is spelled differently. and fans at the notoriously rowdy stadium celebrated the shot just like they would any
other, showering the green with beer and soda cans. that's a rowdy golfing event. >> if you're not a golf fan and you want to go to a good time, that's the one to go to. >> everyone is drinking beer. >> you don't have to be quiet. >> no one is quiet when the players are teeing off. >> they boo you if you don't hit the ball well. san francisco looks great. 68 and sunny. if you're driving this morning, overnight, the rain changes to snow, temperatures have dropped. not sticking everywhere. but in some cases the bridges and overpasses and everything is getting slushy right now. a lot of snow is being pasted to the trees so it will look like a winter wonderland, all of southern new england, outside of new york city, long island, down around new jersey. by the time we're all said and done with this event a minor accumulation. the only areas with significant accumulations are interior new england and new jersey will pick up a significant amount. here's the snowfall prediction. the pink shade, that's eight to
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welcome back to "way too early." the world is mourning the loss of another music legend this morning. maurice white, the mastermind behind the genre defining band earth, wind & fire died at his home in los angeles after suffering from parkinson's disease. he founded the band in the late '60s and they'd go on to win six grammys and win more than 90 million albums with hits like "shining star" and "boogie wonderland." he was 74 years old. okay. let's shift gear to some lighter fare. the next time you're thinking of going with a healthy option at
mcdonald's, think twice. cbc in canada reports that the kale salad has more calories and fat and sodium more than a double big mac. crispy chicken salad tops out at 730 calories and 53 grams of fat. now double big mac has fewer calories and much less fat, although it contains more saturated fat. i would say go with the big mac. >> yeah definitely. >> donnie says definitely. earlier in the show we told you jeb bush campaigned with his mother in new hampshire. they were met by a familiar face on the trail. the man who has come to be known as flower boy. >> flower boy, welcome back. nice to see you. i've missed you. no -- i've missed you. you know, i feel offended you haven't come to any of my events reeptdly -- recently. >> i have to work too, man. come on. bring up your mom later though. >> be careful.
he's a nice guy. he's unusual. he's a good man. >> he's talking to flower boy, rod weather, who has come out the a number of the candidate events. he asked for prayers for peace, hugging, playing, even playing the ukulele. he's a campaign staple. that does it for me and "way too early." major drama during last night's democratic debate as bernie sanders and hillary clinton go one-on-one. we'll break down their performances and joining the conversation this morning, republican presidential hopefuls jeb bush, john kasich and carly fiorina. "morning joe" is now just moments away. ♪ soft, calm music
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>> she has the entire establishment or almost the entire establishment behind her. that's a fact. >> a woman running to be the first woman president as exemplifying the establishment. it's quite amusing to me. >> instead of arguing about definitions, let's talk about what we should. >> do well, you began it yesterday with your comments. >> let's t