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sanders in exeter, about to get under way as well where reehe's expected to pick up a big endorsement. donald trump was supposed to be head lining a rally right now but trump had to cancel that event. the only event he had planned here today due to the heavy snow still falling just four days before the primary. our new nbc news wuls journal poll is out this morning and take a look at the numbers. you see there, trump is still holding steady at 30% in new hampshire. but look to his side. there is marco rubio, whose leapfrogged over ted cruz into second place. now, on the democratic side, bernie sanders holds a 20 point lead over hillary clinton. nationally, two remain in a dead heat. dynamic reflected as they went toe to toe last night in the big debate sparring over who's the most progressive? wall street and the
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establishment. kristen welker covering the clinton campaign and kasie hunt about to head into the event with senator sanders but i want to talk about this event. this is the follow-up. we can chew on and talk about everything we saw last night for the debate but this is a big part of the day after. the aftermath leading into when folks vote. >> reporter: well, that's absolutely right, tamron. and secretary clinton for this day after is kicking it off with this event with pretty powerful optics joined by a number of female senators behind me. the event has started. barbara mccullski. lilly ledbetter, the first piece of legislation that president obama passed. and they're trying to rally her base, female voters and what's so stunning here, tamron, is the fact that she's actually
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trailing. they're ruling the discrepancy. she's trying to reach out to the base and we see a shift in strategy. i anticipate we'll see it again today. she attacked bernie as part of the establishment. she said, how could you argue i was part of the establishment when i would be the first female president? and the robust debate about the real progressive and reached back to her days as first lady and said i've been fighting for women's rights, children's rights since my day as first lady. we see her focus more. it was the most contentious
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debate. they try to bridge the gap with bernie sanders. >> it's exciting to see her female supporters there but the big question elizabeth warren, what is her state of mind? there was a reference that came from bernie sanders. what is the clinton campaign saying about this? and this campaign, of course, she has not endorsed anyone. she is a progressive favorite, tamron and of course, people urge her to run for president. it's significant that she hasn't endorsed anyone, an endorsement for clinton or sanders would be huge. coming before the new hampshire primary. she's obviously very popular in this region. anyone prior to tuesday but they would like to earn that
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endorsement. they are progressive and it's an endorsement she wants. but i don't anticipate we'll see that prior to tuesday. tamron? >> let's go to msnbc's kasie hunt at a rally in exeter new hampshire with senator sanders and we know the senator is getting a big endorsement today that may play a pivotal role but i am also curious, kas kasie, h said he doesn't want to politicize the e-mail scandal with clinton but the question that hillary clinton was asked regarding transcripts from speeches that she gave, where she was paid. the follow-up question from chuck todd. you had many wondering if bernie sanders would pick up on that. would that be a part of his distinction between the two of
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them? >> reporter: tamron, let me really quickly before i answer that question, i want to show you what we are seeing here in exeter. it's a snowy day on the campaign trail. this is bernie sanders who just arrived at the exeter town hall. you could see the windshield here, it's pouring down here. there are a several dozen people. i don't know if you can see them including my intrepid producer somewhere over there looking at the people waiting in the snow for bernie sanders. this is sort of an iconic day on the campaign trail back here in new hampshire. but look, i think hoping to be able to at some point ask bernie sanders if he thinks the transcripts of these speeches should be released. i can tell you, his campaign feels good about his performance at the debate last night. they feel like especially the first section of the debate really focused on the frame that bernie sanders wants to put on this race, focusing on issues of campaign finance, focusing on
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wall street. they also feel like he did a nice job of not letting her get urn his skin, under his skin. they feel like he was able to get through it. and passed the test of obviously the sanders campaign, disputes that, but you're right. here today in exeter, he'll be getting an endorsement we expect to former head of the naacp and that in of course, many ways, more about south carolina than about new hampshire because in part of bernie sanders has some ground that he needs to wake up with african-american voters, tamron. >> yeah. but you talk about him, you discuss the influence this could have. this is not the only high profile vocal african-american activist. cornell west spoke out in support and the actor became popular during what happened in
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ferguson and baltimore. the rapper/actor mike expressed his support of bernie sanders. it's been a slow simmer building up to what the sanders campaign hopes will be an effective strategy in south carolina and when we move into more areas of the country that are a bit more diverse than here in new hampshire and iowa. >> that's right, tamron. also, the daughter of eric garner also supports bernie sanders, although eric garner's mother is with hillary clinton but it is really something that the sanders campaign they know they have to focus on. cornell was competing in iowa with the rallying crowds there. i think you can expect to see him and other african-american leaders who have endorsed sanders to appear on the campaign trail with him.
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>> all right, cakasie. we ask you to take part in the microsoft pulse question. did the debate change your mind? it's live right now. be part of the conversation. you can cast that vote at pulse.msnbc.com. and we'll be tracking your thoughts on that one, and let me show you live pictures, as i mentioned. a big event under way, get out the vote in manchester under way at the ywca. a number of women senators all gather there around her and jeanne shaheen and a number of notables, emily's list. it comes at a time when "the wall street journal" poll shows hillary clinton, we've been talking about this all day. four points behind new hampshire. joining me now is jess mcintosh, spokesperson for emily's list.
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thank you for being with us. >> thank you for having me. >> the president of emily's list is there with hillary clinton offering support here. i want to play something that we noted last night. i asked about hillary clinton's remarks when she pointed out in her estimation, she's not an establishment candidate because she would be the first female president. let me play what she said. >> hillary has done good things in her past but been on the modern, even the right side of things many times as well whereas bernie has always stuck to the message of where he stands and always on the left. he is the one looking to change for the future. >> she brings up the topic of her being a woman. i also am a woman. i also face discrimination as being a woman. her feminism does not represent my feminism.
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>> the young last women we heard from. it's not the same as hillary clinton's feminism. what would you say to her? >> i think that hillary clinton has been fighting for women's rights literally her entire career and been sort of the front an centd centerpiece of w she's done as a public servant back to her job to the children's defense fund. i think that this is somebody who is making the progressive case and also is able to get those things done? and she clearly cares about women's rights. she made a centerpiece as secretary of state. it's something we can count on her. we have always been able to count on hillary clinton to fight the tough fights on our behalf and that's one of the reasons i am so excited for her to go to the white house and do this. i think we saw her win iowa with a 17 point gender gap. women are enthusiastic about the candidacy and not nearly enough attention is paid to the fact
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that this has never happened before. we don't have a play book for how to elect a woman president. it's not been done. and i'm thrilled she's in the position finally to do it. >> there was no play book how to elect an african-american president, but we know the strategy does involve your base, your corps. for hillary, that's female pointers and here down by four points. there's days to make up the numbers, but what will you say? is it a messaging problem? the things you just laundry listed off to me are not resonating to some of these young female voters. is it a messaging problem? >> i think she's still making the case, absolutely. we are early in the primary season and i think these things do resonate with young women voters. again, she won iowa with a 17 point gender gap. i do not believe she's going to lose women in new hampshire. we have polls showing she was up in new hampshire. i think right now, they're all over the place. but what is undeniable is that
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women are responding to her message. women understand that hillary clinton is the person to take on the tough fights and actually get the job done. she has the most realistic progressive plan for the presidency and i think she makes that case all over the country, especially as we get into states that are a little more diverse than iowa and new hampshire. we see that support there and we see that enthusiasm there. and i think that it's okay if young people aren't with her right now. she's going to be there for them and i think that matters. >> as we watch here, we see as we've noted, a number of women senators who are there with her. this would be the second event for you, have a laundry list but not elizabeth warren there with hillary clinton and these other women senators. what do you believe the hold-up is there? to lean support to hillary clinton? >> i think i was more on a fantastic job of making sure
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that her message of economic populism has resonated in the presidential race and i think she's continuing to do that. i don't expect she'll endorse anytime soon. she said great things about both candidates. i think she probably likes them both very much. she's a voice we need. emily's list worked hard to elect her. i think she's doing what she needs to do. >> thank you for your time. i want to bring in former labor secretary under president bill clinton, robert wright. now president of economics at uc berkeley. thank you so much for joining us. it's interesting. this debate yesterday and the big headline today, the u.s. economy created 151,000 jobs in january. unemployment rate fell 4.9%. compare it to the anger, not just the gop candidates but some of the fire that came last night
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as bernie sanders talked about the pop e populist message that they're not improving. >> it is but wages are not coming back. most fear their children will not live as well as they live. that fear and anxiety is with us even though the job picture has improved. >> but you are a supporter of bernie sanders. the job picture, as you pointed out, has improved. the numbers are here. but you're supporting senator sanders and that's not the message that is resonating with those supporting him. they believe that, yes, there's been some recovery but it's on the side of wall street and not, as we like to call it, main street. >> let me just qualify what you said a moment ago.
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i am not endorsing any candidate. i haven't been there for 40 years. i know both candidates and have known for many years. in fact, i've known hillary clinton since she was 19 years old. i think that she would be the best leader. she is best qualified to lead the political system we now have. and i think bernie sanders is best qualified to get the political system we should have and what we need. but they're very different in terms of their emphasis and their skills and what their experience and passion is. >> so to be clear here, are you supporting bernie sanders or are you supporting hillary clinton? >> no, i am absolutely not endorsing in this election. and i think both of them have their strengths, as i just mentioned. >> let me talk to you about some of what you perceive as hillary
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clinton's weakness, let me play a bit of the back and forth last night, as it relates to the battle between these two candidates. let's play it. >> i waited until it had been negotiated because i did want to give the benefit of the doubt to the administration. once i saw what the outcome was, i opposed it. now, i have a very clear view about this. we have to trade with the rest of the world. but we have failed to provide the basic safety net support that american workers need. >> chuck, i believe in trade. but i do not believe in unfettered free trade. i believe in fair trade that works for the middle class and working families of this country and not just large multinational corporations. i was not only in opposition and this is an area where the secretary and i have disagreements. i was not only in opposition, i was on the picket line in opposition to nafta.
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because i understood, i don't think this is really rocket science. >> secretary, we'll go to the wall street, back and forth, but your thoughts, as we hear not just hillary clinton but the candidates following the lead of bernie sanders and questioning some of the trade agreements, going back to what we heard from some of the potential voters here in new hampshire. they believe the wages have been kept down as a result of some of these trade agreements challenged by bernie sanders now. >> there's a lot of evidence that in fact, wages have been affected by those trade agreement oefrs the yeas over t though consumers in america have gained from lower wage goods and priced goods abroad. there's almost no question among economists that the big manufacturing sector, and have
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been vanishing, taken the brunt of the burden. it's helped part of america, but part of america has born a huge burden. and i think what bernie sanders brought to a head was something many of us were talking about for years. it's that the distribution of income, wealth, and political power is very much at the forefront right now and finally dawned on many americans that the game is rigged in favor of people at the top. >> the game is rigged, and he puts it squarely on wall street. and that's a big part of what he says is the divide between his campaign and hillary clinton. let me play one of the moments regarding wall street and i want your thoughts on it. >> let's talk about issues. >> let's talk about issues. >> let's talk about why in the
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1990s, wall street got deregulated. did it have anything to do with the fact that wall street provided to spend billions of dollars on lobbying and campaign contributions? well, some people might think, yeah. that had some influence. >> how do you explain the influence of wall street with campaign contributions and when you have hillary clinton taking over $600,000 from free speeches from gold man sacks and say, she's not for hire? >> first of all, tamron. i don't think there's a question that wall street has had a huge political influence in terms of direct campaign krcontributions and lobbying. the treasury department of most administrations is whether they be democrats or republican administrations but the embassy of wall street and those people in the treasury departments kind of view the world through the lens of wall street bankers and there's a revolving door to wall street. everybody knows that and sees it
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and did get deregulated but wall street use deregulated in the '80s, in the 70s there was a deregulation and prevent what happened in 2008, a near meltdown, got rid of and undoubtedly, wall street's lobbying and political power was a big part of the explanation. it goes on today. i mean, wall street lobbyists right now are in washington trying to cut back on the dodd frank act to prevent acting a too big to fail failure. >> you expressed your admiration but when hillary clinton says that wall street has had no influence over her decisions, is that a true statement? >> i don't know. i can't get into her head, but i do think the appearance problem is a real problem for her.
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she takes, what is it, $650,000 from goldman sachs and wall street banks for speaking, that was in 2013, i believe. that creates the appearance of imp imp impropriety. trust me, i'm not swayed by the banks? but say it was either wrong to take that money or yes, create the appearance of impropiety, but here's evidence that i am going to be very tough on the banks and have been tough on the banks in the past. >> former labor secretary, robert floish. thank you so much. developing now, cancelling his events, or his event say in new hampshire due to the bad weather, but how much could this
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trump has cancelled his event due to weather. trump spends the night after campaign stops. and that is affecting travel back here but the trump campaign holds to hold a rally schedule tonight in south carolina. that is where we find kerry sanders. and skipping new hampshire they say due to weather. >> reporter: he may try to get the momentum. one thing he's done released a new radio. mcmaster. >> our future is bright. our best days are ahead.
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but we have to act. this is henry mcmaster. please join us. >> some may be wondering, who's henry mcmaster, even people in south carolina weren't sure he's the lieutenant general, or lieutenant governor. when i had a chance to talk to them, this is what they had to say. >> so who is henry mcmaster? >> i have no idea and if i show you his picture, mean anything to you? so if this guy endorses donald trump, what does that mean to you? >> he's for donald trump? >> yeah, but you don't know who he is, so does it mean anything to you? >> no. >> he's lieutenant governor. >> of, south carolina? i didn't know that. >> so it doesn't sway you either way. >> not really going for donald
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trump. >> i show you his picture. do you recognize him? >> no. wait, i seen him on the news somewhere. if he endorses, what do you think? he's lieutenant governor. >> that does not concern me at all! y >> no. >> why? >> i don't like donald trump. >> i guess if he endorses donald trump, then he thinks that donald trump is a good candidate. >> what does it mean to you? >> it doesn't mean anything to me. i have to make my own decision on who to vote for. >> reporter: he's trying to run a different kind of campaign, and henry mcmaster whereas
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missing on the ground they call the retail politics and go out and shake hands and so this campaign at least in the city they don't know his influence. a crowd here tonight up to 5,000 or 6,000 people. the question is these people who they show up, are they fans or voters? and coming out of iowa, when you look at the polls and the results, there's a difference between a fan and the voter. tamron? >> thank you. marco rubio and ted cruz. two candidates looking to take advantage of trump's loss. the last debate before the
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undeclared. they gain ground on the front-runner. latest poll. halle jackson is here covering the cruz campaign and said you had new numbers to talk about. what do you have here? >> i got something. we talk to the secretary of state. we saw a record turnout numbers. he's predicting now record turnout in new hampshire and it's going to be bigger than what new hampshire saw in 2008 and has typically one of the highest turnouts in the country. it's happening on the republicans and the democrats. it's important because they can go and vote for a democrat or a
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republican. and garner believes it will have a minimal interest on donald trump and be able to capitalize on this interest and pull the double but here, there was a new study out regarding the demographic of the voters as it relates to religion and have considered themselves to not be -- they appeal to some of the more modern new hampshire and the other point, i can't tell you how many times, you're going to a candidate. are you supporting him?
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i'm going to wait until i pull the curtain and make my decisions. >> he was talking to people in the rain and said to one guy, i'm looking at donald trump and hillary clinton. someone else said i'm looking at ted cruz and john kasich, these ranges of combos because this undeclared group of voters but have about 3 to 5. they just like the title of undeclare. stick around, kasie, sorry. we just lost our shots. holding this big event. go out to the vote. i'm told just around the corner from where we are and including, the president of emily's list. we heard from that organization a short time ago and major
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moments from last night's debate as huffington post editorial director, msnbc analyst. and said, you know they're giving out free burgers in here? did they get a great debate here? >> it was a great debate. like all 15 pounds of a heavy prize fight crammed into the first half hour of the debate especially, i think when they got on who's a progressive and who isn't.
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and it's clear at this point they realize there's only door to get through it. >> i'll be honest. i don't know which clip we have loaded in yet but get a thought on progressives. >> i am a progressive who gets things done and the root of that word is progress. but i've heard senator sanders comments and causesd me to ask, who's left? president obama is not progressive according to him because he took donations from wall street. vice president biden is not because he supported keystone. >> that was the same line she used in the cnn town hall. does it resonate and solve the problem? >> she tried about five different arguments to get out from under bernie sanders' core
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attack which is that she is symbolic of a system corrupted by money. >> is that a fair attack on her especially given his litmus test if for a progress snif. >> i would say if you want to get elected to office to do good, at this point, there is really no other way to do it. i would agree with her just because you have to play the game doesn't mean you can't achieve good things. politics is a paradox begin with. it's a mix of virtue and lack of virtue. that's true. there's no purity anywhere in politics, whatever bernie sanders says. now, what bernie is saying, uh-huh. i figured out a different way to do. i'm going to crowd source it.
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and taking no money from wall street and billionaires, that's true. also paradoxically, donald trump's appeal. i am too rich to take money. >> which is why he was so upset and saying i'm not getting credit for voters for self-funding my campaign. >> hillary tried to make the argument that there's no perfection in politics. she didn't say it that simply but tried a lot of different arguments. barack obama is a good guy and he takes money. everybody takes money. i talked about the heroism and talked about how we caught bin laden. >> that was random. >> that was random. i don't think she can escape the essential power of bernie sanders argument. >> can bernie sanders?
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>> let me play moment. >> when it comes to judgment, having run a hard race against senator obama at the time, he turned to me to be secretary of state and when it comes whether or not to go after bin laden, i was at that table. >> but experience is not the only point. judgment is. and once again, back in 2002 whrks we both looked at the s, the right way and one didn't. >> can his pivot to distract his foreign policy or lack of experience compared to hers, if
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that's a fair way to put it? >> that clip you just played of bernie is not enough for bernie. because then he was asked to rank the problems in the world: and it was north korea. it was like it came from "the interview" to go there, to be a little too cute. it wasn't substantive. when hillary talks about foreign policy, she knows what she's talking about. >> he didn't dare because he doesn't have the depth on that and the campaign is focused on the one thing i was talking about before. >> when you look at the republican reaction, we didn't see much as far as tweets last night but generally when republicans look at last night's debate, they see attack ads and for her, the wall street strategy and her vein capital.
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>> reporter: we know senator sanders in some way will play larry david or have larry play himself on "saturday night live" and forgive me, i have to be quiet because of the people listening to the senator speak but have to negotiate what this snl appearance might look like him, having joked about a second pair of underwear and saying he carries a backpack and a super pac. that's clearly what the sanders campaign wants to be a part of and wants to join. >> there's the gop debate.
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it could certainly be bernie sanders far away. let's talk about the follow-up. what's largely his follow-up speech right there to the big debate? >> his follow-up to the debate, sanders' campaign feel as though he has played into his overall message and largely spent talking about the issues he talked about. they feel like he didn't have any negative moments where it might have become a problem. and get the e-mails off the table and clinton campaign is criticizing him but the sanders
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campaign is feeling confident about this point. >> sanders made his way to exeter. up next, donald trump, his campaign on the ground. there are some concerns. now that a single event plan today has been cancelled and trump was headed to south carolina. could this impact the vote tuesday? we'll be right back.
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we have live pictures of the donald trump rally that's been cancelled, his one and only event planned for today. joining us, katrina pierson.
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>> hi, tamron. >> are you worried of they hope to make the final decisions? >> you can't even get to the event, so for everyone's safety, the event was rescheduled until monday and mr. trump is committed to new hampshire and new hampshire knows that regardless of what the media says. >> he's leading 30 points, sisktly asiskt significantly and today, marco rubio is now past ted cruz in second place. and how concerned is the campaign? and close the gap. >> had a very big lead in new
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hampshire. it's a live free or die state. we're not concerned about marco rubio or ted cruz at this point. >> going into iowa, mr. trump expressed great confidence, did not seem concerned. >> and when you have those talking about some dirty tricks that came out by the cruz campaign that hurt not only ben carson but donald trump in iowa. it's these politicians playing for dirty tricks manipulating
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voters. >> and has he moved on to the o south carolina like he is on new hampshire. >> he's always been focused on new hampshire but we have a strong team in south carolina. we have a very strong ground game. in south carolina, i'll point out that our volunteers are south carolinans. we're not bussing people in. we're very excited because after new hampshire we'll be on to south carolina. >> but as i understand it, you are bussing people in from massachusetts and missouri to new hampshire to knock on doors here. is that not the case? >> if those folks want to come in on their own, i think that's fantastic. we'll take all the help we can get throughout the season, but i can tell you our ground game in south carolina is 100% south carolinans and they are very
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before we go, i want to go back to one of my colleagues, gabe gutierrez. he's in new hampshire where he just wrapped up an interview senator marco rubio gave. what can you tell us? >> reporter: hi, tamron, good afternoon. we're here after wrapping up this interview on the way to marco rubio's next event. he's prepping for a few things, but we asked him about the attacks by his opponents, about his experience. rick santorum said he had to struggle to come up with accomplishments, they put out
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this list. others have executive experience, what does he bring to the table? and here's what he had to say. >> being president of the united states is not like being a real estate developer, it is not like being a governor, it's about being commander in chief. on the decisions on national security, i have showed a judgment and a better understanding than anyone else running for president. >> reporter: and despite those attacks by his opponents, he is now surging in the latest polls. msnbc news maris poll we've been citing have him at 77%. they want to keep this a three-person race coming out of new hampshire. tamron, back to you. >> thank you, gabe. that does it for this hour. i'm tamron hall on the ground in new hampshire. up next, kate snow takes over our live coverage from j.d.'s tavern.
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hi, everyone, i'm kate snow on a snowy friday afternoon here in new hampshire. it's back to work for hillary clinton and bernie sanders, both democratic candidates back on the trail, slogging through the snow here several hours after last night's big debate. tonight they'll break an angeled rule. they're going to talk about politics at the dinner table. they'll attend a dinner a few hours from now. you can bet that debate will be less contentious than last night. it was a heated debate. they talked about what is the future of the democratic party? they talked foreign policy, campaign finance reform, health care and the influence of money in politics. >> what being part of the establishment is, is in the last quarter having a superpac that raised $15 million from wall street. >> so i think it's time to end
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the very artful smear that you and your campaign have been carrying out in recent weeks, and let's talk about the issues. >> we're ready to talk about issues, our team today covering all angles. kelly o'donnell who has covered this from many different angles, fair to say. i think kristen welker we showed, and i'm not sure who else we showed -- there we go. and casey hunt. i missed the shot there. casey hunt, kristen welker. let's start with kelly o'donn l o'donnell. you watched the debate last night. >> i was in the room. it was quite something, a lot of sharp elbows, a lot of back and forth. i think really an engaging debate for the voters. >> especially the undecided voter. when i talk to people at events, when i meet an undecided, i say, you're that one because you're waiting to see what will it be these final days that will move
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someone one way or another? i think what was so impactful about the conversation is it was something we did not expect to have in the sweep of the democratic race, to have two candidates so fiercely going after each other, how they define their place in the party, what their role is, and what individuality versus practicality might be. i think it was helpful in that way. >> bernie sanders was trending, not surprisingly, on social media this morning. he dominated the social media conversation. is that an indicator that all of his supporters are young, or lots of people are starting to think about bernie sanders? >> i think it k in facan, in fa both. i think when you meet sanders supporters, i think they feel the sense of up against sort of the clinton machine, the clinton mi mystique, so they have to be animated and they have to do the extra things. through the course of the campaign, i think you find them
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among the most willing to talk about their candidate. most supporters of hillary clinton will be there, will vote, but aren't necessarily running up and down the street to tell everyone else about it. and there's a sort of tempo difference between democrats who were looking in two different directions. it's interesting, if people would have known the energy that exists in the democratic party at this state, i wonder if there might not have been other democrats who would have attempted to run this year. >> who do you mean? you mean like joe biden? >> even beyond that, actually. >> one more thing i wanted to talk about, the debate last night came in waves. it started out intense, but by the end they were pretty much friend again. i want to play close to the end of the debate last night. >> if i'm so fortunate to be the nominee, the first person i call and talk to about where we go and how to get it done will be senator sanders. >> i happen to respect the secretary very much, i hope it's mutual. on our worst days, i think it's
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fair to say we are a hundred times better than any republican candidate. [ cheers and applause ] >> that's true! that's true! >> that maybe got the biggest applause of the night, kelly. kum ba ya, they're all friends again, right? >> i think they were friends. i don't think they had a reason to expect they couldn't come to a moment like that. it's a tough campaign, some difficult things were said and will continue to be. certainly sanders has tried to not make it terribly personal, although it's gotten rougher. and clinton, i think, knows she has to deal with sanders and his voters if she prevails. so it is best for both of them to be on friendly terms. >> thank you. chris kkristen welker joinsm
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the snow. what's the deal today? she's going nonstop again. >> she is, she has a number of campaign events and she's trying to wrap up here the base of women voters. take a look at what it looks like in the aftermath of a campaign event. you see the signs up, and a short while ago this room was packed, a couple hundred people. secretary clinton was on stage with a number of female senators as well as lily ledbetter, of course, the litigant in the lily ledbetter fair pay act. what's fascinating, kate, she's trailing senator sanders by four points among women voters particularly because of those younger women voters who are looking toward senator sanders. so she's reaching out to them, and what was remarkable about today was she spoke directly to those younger sanders supporters. she said s, you may not be for , but i will be for you. it does come on the heels of that highly contentious debate
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you were talking about with kelly last night, and one of the issues is she accepted money for paid speeches when she left the state department and before she decided to run for president. senator sanders has argued that has made her part of the establishment. she strongly pushed back against that last night. take a listen. >> i will look into it. i don't know the status, but i will certainly look into it. but i can only repeat what is the fact, that i spoke to a lot of different groups with a lot of different constituents, a lot of different kinds of members about issues that had to do with world affairs. so my view on this is, look at my record. look at what i am proposing. >> reporter: so secretary clinton there saying she'll look into it in response to a question by chuck about whether she will release the transcripts of those paid speeches. we're following up with a campaign about that today to see if that's going to happen, and they say they are working on it.
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we'll have to see what comes of that. kate, it is the final sprint here. i've been talking to clinton supporters. they are energized. i said to them she's behind bernie sanders by 20 points. can you make up that deficit? the women here say they can. they say they'll knock on doors until election day. kate? >> and i bet they will. kristen welker with the clinton campaign. let's look at the other side of the ring. political correspondent casey hunt joins me from exeter, new hampshire. tell me about what they're doing today and what his next step is. >> kate, they feel pretty good about the debate yesterday, feel like it was on his terms. they asked secretary clinton to commit to not changing social security, not changing the cpi, which is fancy speak for the rate at which your social
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security benefits increase every year. he wants to make sure there's still an increase in those benefits. he also wants to lift the cap on taxable income, meaning that if you make more money, it will still be taxed pay for some of those programs. but on a little bit of a lighter note, kate, nbc has not confirmed or denied, but the sanders campaign tells us he will be in new york city saturday night, the anticipation that he will be on stage as larry david, who, of course, has been impersonating senator sanders on snl. sanders has played along with a lot of the jokes made on that show, larry david joking that sanders only wears one pair of underwear. sanders joked that he bought his second the day after he saw that impersonation. seems like a fun weekend ahead for senator sanders. >> kacie, i want to look at one more clip from last night and this one had to do with foreign
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policy expertise. this is bernie sanders talking about that. >> i fully, fully concede that secretary clinton, who was secretary of state for four years, has more experience. that is not arguable in foreign affairs. but experience is not the only point. judgment is. and once again, back in 2002 when we both looked at the same evidence about the wisdom of the war in iraq, one of us voted the right way and one of us didn't. >> kacie, there was a little smirk there from hillary clinton for a moment if you saw it go by. do you think the sanders campaign is worried at all about what the clinton campaign says is a weakness on foreign policy? >> reporter: i do think they acknowledge that secretary clinton has far more experience than senator sanders on foreign policy. they would argue they don't
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think a debate or that length of time talking about foreign policy is something that can be a commander in chief test as the hillary clinton is arguing. but senator sanders has already started to come under some criticism even on the left for his answers on foreign policy. and it's clear it's an area where he's not as fluent or comfortable as wall street. >> kacie hunt following the sanders campaign. kacie, thank you so much. let's look at fresh perspective here. clint spiner is the editor of the largest newspaper here. it's no secret he's endorsed president clinton for president. let me get your perspective. you live here, you work here. what do you think granite staters thought about last night? >> i think a lot of people were energized by the debate last night. first of all, we really fought to have this debate. the last debate was the saturday before christmas and not a lot of people were tuned in. people were really hoping to see
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the candidates debate, and it was the first time bernie sanders and hillary clinton went head to head. i was in the audience, and i can tell you the energy from the crowd was incredible. >> i was in the crowd, too. it really was. we got brand new stats today from the secretary of state on the registered number of voters here in new hampshire. here are the numbers. 231,000 democrats, roughly, 262,000 republicans, but here's the big number. undeclared, 389,000 undeclared. that means they can walk in and essentially register on the spot, right, on a primary tuesday? >> that's right, and i'm one of those undeclared voters. what's cool about it is i get mail from both sides. i get between eight and ten pieces of mail every day, and i'm talking about really expensive, elaborate pieces of mail. i got one that looked like a handwritten note from barbara bush. i thought, oh, my god, i can't believe -- then you flip to the back and it says rise to rise
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pac, which is a pac supporting jeb bush. that's the key. a lot of voters know they're going to vote as democrats or republicans, and the real question is, how many of those undecided unregistered voters will vote in each primary? it's a pretty small sliver, but that really is what will make this election. >> another interesting thing about last night, we looked at google, and they released their top searched questions on the candidates in light of the debate. hillary clinton's top question was, how old is hillary clinton? and then, who can beat hillary? where is hillary clinton today? bernie's top question is, where will bernie sanders be speaking? why bernie sanders? who would be bernie sanders' vp? it's just interesting to kind of see where people's heads are at. do you get the sense on the democratic side people are really still making a decision? >> absolutely. i think hillary clinton had a very solid grounding in new hampshire early on. but i think new hampshire voters are so used to breaking late that they didn't really make a
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decision. they are still learning. i talked to somebody the other day who said, i really love bernie sanders, i love everything he stands for, but if i saw him in a room, i wouldn't know what he looks like. so i think it's really cool these people haven't made up their minds and it's only a few days away. >> it's tuesday, right? just four days to new hampshire's primary, and we're asking you to weigh in now. it's our question of the day. did the debate change your mind on who you will vote for? you can cast your vote on pulse.msnbc.com. up next we'll have a live interview with the clinton campaign as the fight for new hampshire ramps up.
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i would be the only candidate up here who does not have a superpac? >> you will not find that i ever changed a view or a vote because of any donation that i ever received. >> that was one of the testier exchanges in last night's msnbc debate between bernie sanders and hillary clinton, the democrats running for president. clinton back on the campaign trail today, as we mentioned before, and here's what she said moments ago right here in manchester. >> i am fighting for us, and i am not going to stop fighting for new hampshire. i am going to keep fighting until the last vote is counted on tuesday because i want the people here in this state to know what i think you saw in the debate again last night. there is only one candidate who is prepared to do all aspects of the job on day one. >> joining me now, deputy
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communications secretary for hillary clinton's campaign, christina shockey, is with us in a loud restaurant. >> good afternoon. >> i saw your team was just here. >> they were just here. i spotted my campaign manager and communications director having burgers. >> there are a lot of power people here on both sides. >> right. you have to be careful what you say. >> let me ask you about that sound we just played, that key moment in the debate. the question on funding. it bernie sanders is talking about not taking money from superpacs. what else the answer from the clinton campaign because she does have a superpac. >> let's say what's underneath this attack. what bernie sanders is trying to say about hillary clinton is that she's influenced by these donations, by money, and that's absolutely not true. as she said last night, enough
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is enough. there is not a shred of evidence that she's ever changed a viewpoint or a vote because of any donation, because of any political activity. she said to him last night, let's focus on the issues. >> i get that, but voters are saying to us that this issue resonates with them. they don't like that there's money in politics. >> when you actually look at the superpacs, he is getting more support from superpacs even though he says they're not involved in his campaign more than any other democrat in this race. i think what's really important here is what hillary clinton stands for. she has said that we have to get superpacs out of the system, she has fought to do that. she said she will make it a test for anyone in the supreme court, a litmus contest, that they would overturn citizens united. this is important to her, too, and one she takes really seriously. i think he's trying to make accusations on her character that just have no basis. >> he has made some real inroads not just with young voters, but
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with female young voters, which i would imagine has got to be hard for the hillary clinton campaign. that's your strong suit, is female voters. >> our strong suit is with women, that's absolutely true, because hillary has been a fighter for women and children her entire life. i will say we have some room to grow with young people, we know that, and she's out there today telling her story. her record of women's rights, on children's rights, what she'll do to protect social security, what which is really important to older women, and to protect planned parenthood, which is important to younger women. she said that right now they're not standing with her, but she will always stand with them. she's really proud of the plans. young people have more at stake in this election than anyone else. she's really proud of the plans she's put forth and she's out there trying to earn their support. >> there was a moment today where she talked about appealing to younger voters. i want to play that and we'll talk more. >> i want to say a word to the
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extraordinary people, particularly young people, who are supporting senator sanders. i know you may not be for me now, but i am for you. and i will work hard for you, and i will be a president who puts your futures at the top of our national priorities. and i want you to know that what i said in the debate last night, that i will call senator sanders, the first call i will make. if i'm so fortunate as to get this nomination so we can turn our attention to what we really need to do, make sure we don't get a republican back in the white house, i will call because i want him to be our partner. >> let me flip the question around. why do you think bernie sanders is getting so much youthful support? >> you know, i have to say that she has said she thinks it's great that he's gotten so many
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young people involved and caring about this election, because as she said, they have more at stake in this election than anyone else. and so she -- you know, she's happy and grateful that he's exciting that kind of enthusiasm, and she looks forward to making her case to these young people of why she is the best candidate to go up against the republicans and to actually fight for them in the white house. she said she will always be on their side. >> is it fair to say that you're surprised by the level of support that he has? >> you know, the truth is, we always knew this was going to be a tough race, we always knew it was going to be competitive, so i don't think we're surprised by it. as you can see, she's out there in the fight. she's trying to earn every vote, and that includes with young people. >> bernie sanders gets to be on snl, we think, on saturday night. not completely confirmed by nbc entertainment yet, but had you heard that? >> i have to say she's already been on snl. she played the bartender belle. she had so much fun doing it, it was a great experience. >> so it's his turn.
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>> we think he'll have fun doing it. she really enjoyed it and she was really good at it. >> thank you for being with us. appreciate it. up next, the snow flying here in new hampshire. we'll tell you which republican candidate called off his event and whether or not that could cost him on tuesday. plus, the results of a brand new boston globe poll that could change everything you thought you knew about tuesday's race, especially on the republican side. we'll be right back. environment, companies must adapt. but one thing should remain constant - a financial relationship with someone that understands and cares about your business. pnc corporate and institutional banking offers strategies tailored to your company's needs. know that our dedicated teams of local experts offer insight to help you achieve your business objectives. see how working with pnc can help your company grow at pnc.com/ideas ♪ ugh! heartburn! no one burns on my watch!
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both rubio and cruz are campaigning here in new hampshire today in the snow. trump had planned a rally but had to reschedule for monday because of the snowstorm. later tonight donald trump will hold a rally in florence, south carolina. that's where he is. we've got all angles covered from south carolina up to new hampshire today, and i'm going to start with nbc's hallie jacks jackson. she's been covering the hunt closely since yesterday afternoon. this is about ted cruz, and i want to show the boston globe poll. we're throwing a lot of polls at people, but it's interesting to look at the boston globe poll that came out this morning, because it shows ted cruz falling down a bit into 7%. so, what, fifth place, right? >> yeah. >> so who knows if these polls are going to really foretell what happens on tuesday, but is it affecting him what happened in iowa?
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>> it's a fair question to ask. i would say this, though. fifth place for ted cruz in new hampshire is probably where folks thought he might end up. you know, two months ago, basically, new hampshire was not seen as a place where ted cruz needed to win. if he did well here, it was kind of like icing on the cake. his focus is on south carolina and, perhaps more importantly, those sec primary states next month. would you want to end up second or third? wouldn't you? obviously, but the idea is that he can continue to push into play in other states. that said, he has been dealing with fallout from iowa which was days ago because of this issue with ben carson's campaign. as you know, there was these voicemails allegedly made by cruz staffers. before we do, just know nbc has not verified these specific voicemails, although we do know that similar calls have been made. take a listen. >> hello, this is the cruz
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campaign with breaking news. dr. ben carson will be success spending campaigning following tonight's debate. >> the implication is ben carson would maybe drop out of the race instead of getting back on the trail in new hampshire and south caroli carolina. the cruz campaign has a statement out apologizing for not quickly making that determination, but they said, t something about that, and they talked about this controversy, kind of comparing clinton's reaction after benghazi, which is also raising eyebrows. this continues to be a story, and i'm sure we'll talk about it at some point. >> donald trump not bringing it
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up as forcefully as he had earlier in the week. hallie jackson, good to see you. thank you. >> let's go to kerry sanders. he's in south carolina where donald trump will be having an event later. he had to cancel saying he couldn't get his plane back in to be in new hampshire. kerry? >> reporter: he's trying to run a non-conventional campaign. he's not a politician, he says, although he's in the political arena trying to win his party's nomination. so he does things a little differently. he flies his plane almost every evening back to new york, but because of the weather can't make it to new hampshire, but he will follow up with his meeting here with voters. as much as he tries to run his campaign, he's starting to see the traditional things like getting endorsements, including an endorsement that's in a radio commercial. here's a portion of that radio commercial with herman mcmaster.
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>> yes, our future is bright, our best days are ahead, but we have to act now. this is herman mcmaster. join us now. join donald trump and let's make america great again. >> reporter: of course, the real question for a lot of people, including voters who live here in south carolina, who is henry mcmaster? his name might sound familiar to some. he's the lieutenant governor here, he's been in politics a long time. just talking to voters here in this unscientific gathering of people that i talked to, i asked them who henry mcmaster is and what impact it has. just take a listen to this. who is henry mcmaster? >> i have no idea. >> no idea. if i showed you his picture, does it mean anything to you? >> no. >> so if this guy endorses donald trump, what does that mean to you? >> that he's for donald trump? >> yeah, but you don't know who he is. does it mean anything to you?
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>> no. >> he's a lieutenant governor. >> of south carolina? didn't know that. >> reporter: so it doesn't sway you either way. >> not really going for donald trump. >> i want to show you his picture. do you recognize him? >> oh, i do. i've seen him on the news somewhere. >> reporter: you've seen him? >> yeah. >> reporter: if you endorses donald trump, what do you think? he's lieutenant governor. >> that does not concern me at all. >> reporter: you don't care? >> no. why should i care? >> reporter: you say that because? >> i don't like donald trump. >> i suppose if he endorses donald trump, then he thinks donald trump is a good candidate. >> reporter: but what does that mean to you? >> that doesn't mean anything to me. i will have to make my own decision about who i will vote
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for. >> reporter: so donald trump going a little traditional, getting an endorsement. the question is, how valuable? kate? >> kerry sanders down in south carolina following donald trump. the clock is ticking for those eight republican candidates to win over voters here in new hampshire. seven of them will face off on a debate stage tomorrow night. when we come back, we'll dive deeper into the debate state's strategies. in new york state, we believe tomorrow starts today. all across the state the economy is growing,
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♪jake reese, "day to feel alive"♪ ♪jake reese, "day to feel alive"♪ four days to go before the new hampshire primary, and the latest nbc wall street journal marist poll is showing a close battle for second in the republican field, with donald trump holding a strong lead in first. and the battle game is on with over 15 gop events across the state today, even in the snow. joining me now to talk all things republican is david cook with the political report, and
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boston globe columnist scott lehigh. gentlemen, thank you for being with me. can you hear me okay? it's kind of noisy in here. scott, i'm going to start with you since you're with the boston globe. let me put up the numbers we got this morning. this is the republican side of the race. donald trump still in the lead, but marco rubio with 19, then kasich, bush, cruz, then christie and carson. that's a bit different order than we've seen in the polls. >> cruz not catching on very much, i don't think, with some of the fringe, but he's not necessarily new hampshire type. rubio is getting a real tryout here, he comes off a little robotic, in my opinion. i think kasich is running a different kind of campaign, a more positive campaign, a little more organic, i'll tell you who i am, speaking a little bit more extemp and from a very tight
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script. i think he's actually got something going here. if you're with trump, you're with him. he can do very little but fade, and i think he will by the mid-20s before this is over. >> is trump fading a little bit? one of the cruz folks said to me yesterday that they think his favorability is going down here, that people don't like him in new hampshire. >> there is always that possibility that he would get stale, his an ttics would get stale. when you underperform in iowa, those questions follow you here to new hampshire. still not doing a ton of retail events here, so it's possible. i think the big question here this week is, given marco rubio's momentum, can he catch donald trump, not so much can jeb, kasich, carson catch marco rubio. i think marco rubio would say, we're not looking at that, second would be fine. for a long time the anti-trump, anti-cruz voters were looking
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for someone to emerge as sort of a mainstream republican candidate, and i think that's why what rubio did in iowa is so important, because coming here -- >> he's got the buzz now, that established buzz. >> when i drove around the state, what's striking to me is this is an all-consuming event in new hampshire. everyone is into it whether they're politicos or not. new hampshire will bring out a lot of undeclared voters in the state. even though new hampshire is only about half the population in iowa, more people will participate here on tuesday than participated last week in iowa. i think there are a couple people that benefit because they vote more on personality than idealogy. the two i think benefit the most are bernie sanders and marco rubio. >> not marco rubio? he's got personality. >> and there's no lack of personality. but last night in portsmouth, for example, at his rally, we saw a softer, more humble trump.
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he said people don't know this about me, but i'm actually warmer than most people. >> i want to play a clip from, actually, president obama earlier this afternoon. i was talking about the economic state of the country, and he said this about the gop race. >> as i said in my state of the union address, the united states of america right now has the strongest, most durable economy in the world. i know that's still inconvenient for republican stump speeches as their doom and despair plays in new hampshire. i guess we cannot please everybody. >> scott, doom and despair tour of new hampshire. >> it really is remarkable. you've got the apocalyptic republicans here. you listen to cruz, you listen to rubio, and if people vote the wrong way, it's the end of the
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republic. it is absurdly hyperbolic, the rhetoric. the president is on to something there. i think that's a cruz distinction and a bush distinction. they are telling you doomsday lies ahead, they're telling you there are problems that need to be fixed. >> but eli, a lot of voters right now, we've done a million polls showing how angry people are, how upset they are about the state of the economy. >> you have to win the primary to get to the general election, and the message that wins in the primary is the doom and gloom on the republican side. everyone has put trump's co-op of america slogan up. even cruz says i'm going to restore america's greatness, echoes of trump everywhere, and he somehow put the mood on the public electer. that is his mood, saying he's so strong throughout the campaign, and that's the argument we've seen rubio adopt, bush adopt, kasich a little sunnier.
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>> thank you so much for being with us. appreciate it. up next, we revisit a memorable moment for hillary clinton on the 2008 campaign trail and the new hampshire voter who made that all happen. >> i have so many opportunities in this country. i just don't want to see us fall backwards. [ applause ] choice for him is a. he's agreed to give it up. ok, but i have 30 acres to cover by sundown. we'll be with him all day as he goes back to taking tylenol. yeah, i was ok, but after lunch my knee started hurting again so... more pills. yep... another pill stop. can i get my aleve back yet? for my pain... i want my aleve. get all day minor arthritis pain relief with an easy open cap.
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defeat to then senator barack obama who then only upped the ante for her to win the granite state. you might remember in a coffee shop in portsmouth, she was asked, how do you do it? >> you know, i think -- >> who does your hair? >> luckily i do have -- on special daisy do have help. if you see me every day and if you look on some of the web sites and listen to some of the commentators, they always find me on the day i didn't have help. it's not easy. it's not easy. and i couldn't do it if i just didn't, you know, passionately believe it was the right thing to do. you know, i have so many opportunities from this country, i just don't want to see us fall backwards. >> i was in the room when that moment happened, and every reporter in that room knew that we were witnessing something that could potentially change
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the dynamic here in new hampshire. her response showed a side of her that was vulnerable, and what you can't see on tv is the feeling that was in that room. she was filled with emotion that day. joining me now, msnbc national reporter erin carmone who covers women's issues on msnbc. you caught up with the woman not caught on camera but who asked that critical question. >> it's important to ask, where are they now? here we are eight years later. hillary clinton is running again and challenging big numbers. so far she's not doing as well in the polling, particularly among younger women. so we thought it would be interesting to catch up with a voter and ask a serious question. why do you think that was such a serious question? >> she let us know she's not a
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political robot. as you know, all these gatherings is always the same questions about health care or the economy, gun control, and i'm sure they're pat answers. i just don't see how she can make all the promises that she makes or any politician, for that matter, because you don't know what it's like once you get in there. >> so who are you going to vote for on tuesday? >> i can't tell you that. i'll make up my mind in the voting booth. >> reporter: hillary clinton is one of the most scrutinized women in the world and she's been in the public light for so long. yet people still say they don't feel like they can connect with her. i think it's moments like that, people yearning for some kind of connection, and she said she saw that when hillary clinton answered about her faith. >> oh, when asked about religion, and that was unguarded
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and unscripted. i was talk to go one of her aides and said they see that all the time, that's what they see every day, but maybe the public and the tv viewers don't get to see that that much. >> it's interesting, because she actually ended up voting for obama and she really feels compelled by some of bernie sanders' arguments. but she really wants a woman president, so she'll decide at the last minute. >> like so many voters are. up next, i'll talk to three new hampshire voters still deciding which candidate will win their vote on tuesday. but first, we had some fun behind the scene in last night's political debate. i asked some of the sanders and clinton supporters in the room to play a little political word association. take a look. democratic debate. >> intense. bernie sanders. >> great. >> hillary clinton. >> i thought she did very well. >> that's more than one word. tonight's debate?
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undecided voters make up the rath -- rather, undeclared voters make up the large amount of voters in this state and they take this very seriously. these three voters join me now to discuss which way they're leaning. we asked you all to be here because you're all undecided, right? terry, let me start with you. you're a registered independent, right? >> yes. >> you typically vote republican? >> mostly. >> at this point in time, which
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way are you leaning? >> i'm leaning right. >> towards who? >> jeb bush right now. i have one more event on sunday i think i'm going to go to, but 95% sure jeb bush. >> all three of you are not originally from new hampshire, correct? you moved from other places. joyce, i know you have five children who are all voting age, too? you're republican? >> yes. >> do you have any idea who yu thinking of supporting? >> i would like to see john kasich, but i'm not sure that he's going to get high enough in the polls. i recently heard ted cruz. i'm very impressed with him and his ideas and how intelligent he is. >> you've seen one, two, three, four, at least, maybe five or six more? >> christie and jeb, i was impressed with him. i'm impressed with all of them. i think we have a wonderful -- >> who are your children supporting? >> they're all democratic.
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>> are they sanders or clinton? do you know? >> they refuse to discuss. >> terry, let me ask you, you've lived here just three and a half years in new hampshire, right? >> that's correct. >> you moved up here because your daughter was going to boston college. >> she graduated from boston college, yes. >> congratulations. republican all your life. what are you thinking? >> i really am undecided. when i lived in texas, i used to watch all this going on in new hampshire and think, how can you people not know who you're voting for, you have access to these candidates than anyone else in the country. now that i'm here, i'm one of them. >> what is holding you all up? is there an issue you think you need to know more about? >> i think it's really about for many of us in new hampshire, i don't think it's a three-person race, really. i haven't paid enough attention to the polls, quite frankly. >> so you don't believe it's trump, cruz on rubio? >> no, i really don't.
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i believe we have the access to the whole string of them, and it's amazing. in my very small town -- >> there's still eight candidates. >> yeah. and i think i've seen five in person, and it really is different when you hear them speak in person. >> joyce, is there something holding you up? is there something you want to hear more about tomorrow night in the debate? >> not anything in particular. i think they're all great. that's part of the difficulty, and, of course, everybody has some drawbacks. but i think that they can do a lot for our country, each one of them. i wish they could somehow get together as a cabinet and do their thing. >> well, maybe that will happen, right? once elected, the others will be in the cabinet. terry, this is your first time voting in new hampshire, be part of the primary. it's got to be exciting. >> for a political junkie like me, this is like the super bowl. and i've seen all the candidates. >> well, the real super bowl is on sunday so you get your combo
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i'm kate snow and we start this hour in snowy new hampshire with new fighting words from hillary clinton directed at bernie sanders. >> i'm going to keep fighting until the last vote is counted on tuesday because i want the people here in this state to know what i think you saw in the debate again last night. there is only one candidate who is prepared to do all aspects of

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