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and that is why you invest. the best returns aren't just measured in dollars. td ameritrade®. and good morning, everybody, i'm savannah guthrie, we're in manchester, new hampshire, chuck todd and i are reunited again in this tiny state in the northeast corner of our country that is the center of american politics right now. >> we are in the hotel and the armory that is the center of the state that is the center of american politics. >> i know. >> you can't swing a dead cat without running into a candidate. >> it's true. >> a candidate, a strategist, a political tourist who all want to know the same thing, what the heck is going to happen tonight.
>> i thought they wanted to know is chuck todd really that fall in person? >> look at you. >> it is primary day here. >> time for those undecided voters to stop being undecided. to stop being cranky about their choice. take a listen. >> this is sort of our final lovefest, all right? >> we are here in new hampshire competing for the votes and at this point it's a turn out game. >> it's in the voters' hands now. >> i love new hampshire. i will tell you one last thing, i'm going to be president of the united states. >> i am just looking for a great election day as many people who can turn out. >> i hope at the end of tonight new hampshire will have told america that we are no longer accepting establishment politics or establishment economics. that we want this country to move forward in a different direction. thank you all very much.
>> i will ask you respectfully to please consider giving me the chance to do this job for you. >> so the candidates are out in full force in morning because they don't know what else to do, it's all in the hands of the voters. we can show you some of the earliest results. three timely ham let's went to the polls at midnight. bernie sanders won all four democratic voters in dixville notch. republican john kasich beat donald trump 3 to 2 among the republicans. interesting note, dixville notch has predicted the eventual nominee in every cycle since 1968. okay. john kasich it is. anyway, let's get right to our political team who have been here on the ground in new hampshire. kristen welker with the clinton campaign in nashua and here with us on set senior political editor mark murray and peter alexander.
kristen, let us start with you in clinton world. i've got to ask you how are they feeling? yesterday was about as rough of a day as i can think that they have had in quite some time. >> reporter: it was. you had those reports of a possible campaign shake up, chuck, and we will get to that in just a minute. in terms of how they are feeling, they're bracing for a potential loss here, if we're speaking practically what they are hoping for, though, right now senator sanders has a double digit lead, they're hoping that that can narrow to a single digit lead. i'm here at their field office in nashua, chuck and savannah, where it's bustling. i will pan over a little bit so you can see some of the activity. they are rallying some of their supporters, these folks are about to head out into the streets, start knocking on some doors, encouraging clinton supporters to come out and vote to try to narrow that gap that she has right now with senator sanders. chuck, they're also looking to the future, what happens after new hampshire. i've been talking to campaign officials who say they are focusing on the caucus states
heavily, states like colorado, minnesota, nevada. of course, we expect secretary clinton to visit those states in the coming days, the reason why those states were key to barack obama's victory in 2008, they're also focusing on a key part of secretary clinton's base, also the obama coalition, african-american voters, we've seen her rallying african-american voters in recent weeks, she made that trip to flint, michigan, her first ad she released in south carolina featured attorney general eric holder who has endorsed her. they are going to be key in states like south carolina and other southern states as well as those super tuesday states. now back to those reports about a possible campaign shake up. rachel maddow asked her about that yesterday. take a listen to what she had to s say. >> we're going to take stock, what works, what doesn't work. we're moving into a more diverse electorate and different
geographic areas. it would be mal not to say what worked, what do we have to do better, what do we have to do new and different to pull out. >> so she denied a shake up but at the same time said that she is going to have to take a hard look at how her campaign is being run and if there need to be changes moving forward. the key challenge for the clinton campaign right now reaching out to those younger voters, particularly women voters, she has been bringing some of her top surrogates, female surrogates to reach out to them. madeline albright, for example, the question is is that working? are they responding to those messages? that will be a question mark and we will know more after tonight. >> kristen welker on the clinton campaign trail this morning. another big issue in the race, donald trump. >> donald trump. >> wow. >> after looking like he was humbled by iowa, that he was a new reserved donald trump. >> he told us he was going to be more statesman like on the "today" show. then this rally happened. >> there is a rally. look, i want to put a warning on
here, you're going to hear something if the kids are around move them away from the television, here was donald trump last night. >> the other night at the debate they asked ted cruz a serious question, well, what do you think of water boarding? is it okay. honestly i thought he'd say absolutely and he didn't. he said, well, you know, he was concerned about the answer because some people -- she just said a terrible thing. do you know what she said? shout is out because i don't want -- >> okay. you're not allowed to say -- and i never expect to hear that from you again -- she said -- i never expect to hear that from you again, she said he's a pussy. that's terrible. terrible. [ applause ]
>> what kind of people do i have here? okay? >> wow. >> wow is all i can say. i mean, if it were reality television it would be kind of entertaining but i mean -- and i think we all -- i think our shock-o-meters have become a nest sized. >> i think what strikes you it's hard to be numb. as many times as you hear that when you hear that you think no candidate has gone there before but the bottom line is when has there been a presidential candidate that you have to give a disclaimer before you play their sound bite. imagine that person in the oval office in the briefing room speaking to the world and using that kind of language. obviously he benefits by the audience around him in rooms like that but the bottom line is any other candidate who goes anywhere near that language they could say that could turn the night. >> mark murray, bill clinton has been eviscerated for saying what he said about bernie sanders. >> yeah. >> over the last -- oh, my god,
i can't believe bill clinton went there and went after his supporters. >> that's a good point. >> donald trump everybody just sort of shrugs. that's just trump being trump. is this the presidential race of 2016 in a nutshell? >> it's the donald trump campaign over the last six or seven months. nobody is surprised about what he said, we're all very numb. but that standard wouldn't apply to any other presidential candidate right now. >> why? savannah, why? >> i have no idea. going to trump rallies the first thing people always say and you guys know this better than i do, he says what nobody else will say. >> okay. >> and apparently that includes this word which as peter correctly points out i don't think has been uttered from a presidential candidate's podium ever in history. >> the people at the rallies, though, when you talk to them a lot of undecided. who are you thinking about? case skik or trump. why are you here? we just want to be a part of a show. they want to check the box that we went to see donald trump and he gives them as you witnessed what the audience is looking
for. >> we ought to play -- donald trump did sort of say something else that i guess compared to that it's a nothing. it's a nothing burger. >> on "morning joe" this morning. >> on "morning joe" this morning. i believe we have that clip. let's play it. >> not ready yet. >> that's okay. >> do you know what that's called -- oh, they have it. this is to exciting. >> live television. >> the plot twists. >> don't you love coming back to cable? >> i do. let's roll that clip. >> when that woman shouted a word out and you went with it and sort of -- >> i didn't -- we were all just having fun. it was a great moment. i got a standing ovation, the place went wild. somebody said mixed cheers. let me tell you the place went wild. >> i saw that. >> standing ovation. you're talking about close to 5,000 people standing ovation went totally wild and all i was doing is repeating because people couldn't hear it so i was doing everybody a favor. >> later in that interview he was asked to do some word
association, asked about hillary clinton he just uses the word evil, mark. >> yeah. >> rough word, too. >> it's important to note one of the reasons we are so numb to donald trump in july, august, september he got so much coming from his rivals and the news media, this is going to be the moment that breaks donald trump, the john mccain comment, his comments about mexicans, one after another and then two months his poll numbers kept going up. i do wonder if he ends up winning tonight and the last 75 straight republican polls in new hampshire have shown him in the lead if that scrutiny does change a little bit and particularly from his rivals as well as the news media where all of a sudden that that kind of, oh, golly, that's just donald trump that he is the big winner tonight and all of a sudden it flips a switch. >> as they say on reality tv and i'm the one here at this table that probably watches it the most it's getting real now. if he actually wins do you think, peter, people start saying this could happen? >> we've witnessed record breaking numbers at these
debates to date. you have to believe what donald trump and bernie sanders do tonight if they win, this will be the first real moment where a massive audience looks at them as not just a candidate on the stage but a person who could be the next president of the united states. i think things do sort of switch this evening. >> all of the opponents today -- last night have been saying this to me, the clinton campaign believes, okay, if sanders wins now he will be treated as a potential president and now you will vet him in a different way and you get people from bush, kasich, rubio world saying the same thing about trump. i think if you win the new hampshire primary, okay, the fun and games are over. we're looking at potential presidents. >> but that suggests that these candidates haven't been vetted by the media and i don't think you can say that about donald trump. he gets a lot of free press but i don't know that he gets a free pass from the media. the voters don't seem to care about some of these antics according to the polls. >> it's important to note in the polls it's republican voters that don't really seem to care. donald trump still a very toxic figure when it comes to swing voters, latinos, young people.
he's doing really well among republicans right now, the question is does he have the appeal to be a successful general election candidate for republicans? >> we shall see. mark, going to be a fun long night. peter, you, too. kristen welker before that, thank you all. >> thanks so much. well, the polls are telling us that this is bernie sanders' state to lose, but hillary clinton doesn't want to go down without a fight. >> she's telling voters that sanders isn't the purist he claims to be, something she told our own rachel maddow as well. take a look. >> and i have been somewhat concerned about the tone of his campaign over the last weeks. we were running i thought a good campaign on issues and we're getting to the point where we have to draw contrasts, that's natural. i have a healthcare approach, he has a healthcare approach, we may have the same goal but a different view about where we get there. that is fair game as it should be, but there has been a constant undercurrent that i said in the debate last week was a kind of attack by innuendo,
insinuation, kind of artful smears and i just said enough is enough. if you have something to say to my face, say it. if you can point to any event, any vote, any view that you think has ever been influenced by any donation i have ever made call it out. then they put up the bankruptcy bill and i answered that yesterday on the morning shows. so i want this innuendo to stop. let's just be honest with each other and, look, senator sanders has taken money from wall street he just took it through the democratic senate campaign company. that's what we do. >> and joining us now clinton supporter and former michigan governor jennifer granholm. >> good morning. >> is this a nerve o vows day for a clinton surrogate. >> is it a nervy state? >> do you know what it is, everybody is sleepy, everybody -- you know, we are not fully -- >> jimmy fell in the well?
what? is it a nervous day for you? >> if you're not feeling anxious on an election day you don't have a pulse in politics. sure, everybody is anxious and everybody wants to make sure that she's -- that they know that up to the very last moment she's fighting for every single vote here. >> you know, there was a little deja vu for me yesterday, the day before the new hampshire primary in 2008 hillary clinton was down double digits in the polls, rumors of a campaign shake up were coming around, reports of this, reports of that and lo and behold, voila, she wins, settles things down. obviously we know what happened down the road. do you guys just have your fingers crossed that the rumors of a campaign shake up is a good omen. >> i don't know that everything is a repetition. i do think that this is going to be an uphill state for her, we all know that, right? and the rumors of the campaign shake up, it's just -- she has this phenomenal campaign team, a phenomenal campaign team.
these kids here have worked their hearts out for her. so that that story comes out the day before they're about to -- it's totally ridiculous and you heard what she said. every campaign -- bernie sanders' campaign will do this, too, i'm sure donald trump's campaign, you assess every single state how you're going to do, you're going to add staff for the next states to come, et cetera, but she's not getting rid of this team. this is a phenomenal team. >> we've seen a lot of different attacks taken against bernie sanders by the clinton camp in the last few days. she's not responsible for everything that her surrogates say, but i keep going back to what madeline albright said, the way that was interpreted there's a special place in hell for women that don't help other women. gloria steinem making the comment that young women are flocking to the sanders campaign because -- >> which she apologized to. >> she said she misspoke. what do you think of that tactic? is that a smart strategy. >> young women do not want to be shamed into voting and that's
very clear and nobody intended for that to happen. i think what they -- i'm from the next generation after, you know, gloria and madeline and we -- i've got their pictures on my wall, i mean, they are just -- they're total heroes. of course they're going to say that we want to be able to see finally a woman as president after 227 years. but the clinton campaign is saying not just any woman. we wouldn't say vote for sarah palin, we want to vote for somebody who shares your values and who is going to fight for those things that you really care about and who has been in the trenches on all of these things that women care about for four decades? it's been hillary clinton. who has been fighting for kids all of her life? it's hillary clinton. who has been fighting to make sure that there is parental leave and children's healthcare? it's hillary clinton. so what she wants to convey is don't vote for me solely because i'm a woman. vote for me because i am going to fight for you, i'm the most qualified person to ever run. you need a commander in chief
who understands the globe and by the way i would add -- i would add 227 years is long enough. >> well, all of these stories about staff shake up or how it was written about with madeline albright it all sort of is about one issue. it doesn't seem -- in 15 seconds you can tell me about bernie sanders wants to be president. he tells us all the time. political revolution, break up the big banks, the campaign finance system is a mess. that 15 second pitch seems to be missing with hillary clinton. the why does she want to be president. >> she wants to raise your incomes, democrats care about the economy, they care about having good paying jobs, i'm coming from michigan. the fact that she went to flint, which is the poster child for the deindustrialization of america and look what happens and she cares about everyone. those young people they want a good paying job, a job with incomes that are on the rise. she is going to make that happen. she's going to raise people's incomes and care about the middle class. she's going to address it.
>> you went longer than 15 seconds. >> it's all about raising incomes. >> the elevator pitch we went up to the 25th floor on that one. >> have a nervy day. >> you have a nervy day, too. you have a lot of nerve. >> thanks very much. coming up, marco rubio and chris christie, they've been trading barbs since that debate night on saturday. today the two candidates are out visiting poll locations. gabe gutierrez is also there. we'll check in with him next. first a programming note. rachel maddow, chris matthews will be hosting special coverage of the primary returns. all of that starts at 6:00 p.m. eastern right here on the place for politics, msnbc. why are you all here? to learn, right? so you can get a good job and you're not working for peanuts. well what if i told you that peanuts can work for you? while you guys are busy napping, peanuts are delivering 7 grams of protein and 6 essential nutrients right to your mouth.
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i'm going to keep saying it over and over again. barack obama has damaged america. we are going to make it right again. >> senator marco rubio in his closing argument last night in nashua, new hampshire. continuing that rhetoric that led chris christie to pounce on him in last saturday's debate. i spoke with chris christie on "today" just a couple of hours ago. take a listen. >> i enjoyed making sure people understood that i'm ready to go president and senator rubio is not. i'm ready to beat hillary clinton and he's not. >> let's bring in our own gabe gutierrez, he's following the rubio campaign. he joins me now from a polling location in salem. >> well, gabe, what are you hearing? what are voters saying? does the debate still have a hangover there for marco rubio?
>> reporter: that is a big question right now, chuck. marco rubio has been going to several polling locations throughout the morning, he is expected here in about an hour or so and he's really trying to make that -- take this message to the voters that he is most qualified on the issues of foreign policy and national security and he is brushing off that criticism of that rough debate performance on saturday. he spoke with my colleague lester holt. let's listen to part of their conversation. >> but in repeating it over and over again it played to this notion that your critics is, some of your opponents, thur a bit contrived, that you're rehearsed. >> it's silly. understand people when they're running for office are going to say whatever they need to say. >> marco robot, to see a headline that you choked doesn't bother you? >> that's part of the process. >> he has been repeating that message over and over again since that senate on saturday. on sunday he said it, yesterday he said it as well and he says that he keeps repeating these talking points because that's
his message and he believes in them. the question right now, will voters agree with him? his campaign says the media is focusing on that debate performance but that voters will not. chuck, the question right now is what will this do to the other governors in the race? will they surge past him? part of the problem is that we haven't had any reliable polling since that saturday debate, but, chuck, as you've said one of the things that's clear right now, is that marco-mentum that his campaign was calling it that seems to have been stopped. the governors in this race where if marco rubio had a wonderful night here they may have dropped out after new hampshire, that seems to not happen, they will stick through south carolina. but how much stock will voters put on that debate performance? >> gabe gutierrez, polling location in salem, thanks very much. let's bring in alex conan communications director for marco rubio's campaign. i will help you out with one piece of spin in this. >> yeah.
>> we are flying blind. i think it's fair to say poundity ri has hit you hard but the only decent polling time between saturday and today is between noon and 4:00 p.m. on sunday, super bowl sunday meant you couldn't poll sunday night and no self-respecting pollster trusts election eve polling. polling last night was probably not a good idea or you shouldn't trust the numbers. we'll take that into account but it has been a brutal set of coverage for you guys. >> there was oner poll which three quarters was done before the debate, one quarter was done after the debate. >> you acknowledge that. >> right. that poll found marco in a solid second place, closing the gap a rail bit since the debate. on top of that we've seen our crowds surge here in new hampshire. we've seen fundraising go through the roof at marco rubio.com. we've seen people like rush limbaugh and mark la vin and erick erickson rallying to
marco's side. we feel really good about where we're at. as you said, the d.c. punditry was tough on marco, but i think people who watched the debate at home, who saw his answer on life, saw his answer on what it means to be a conservative in the 21st century, his exchange on national security with martha raddatz, those people, voters, were impressed with marco, i think we will be have a good night tonight. >> a gaffe hurts when it comes towards something that people kind of already believe or have been saying about a candidate. in marco rubio's case this was something people were alleging all the time. he's incompetent skred, he's rehears rehearsed, he is a mile wide and inch deep. can you explain what happened saturday night? why that doesn't bear out? >> it's what he believes, first of all. nobody has done more interviews during this campaign than marco rubio. 15 million americans saw his speech on monday night when he came in third in the iowa caucuses. he gave that, there was no
teleprompters, there was no script, he went out and spoke were the heart. i don't think anyone watching at home said that guy is incompetent skred. they said there is a guy who knows what he believes, knows why he is running for president and why he a wants to lead this country. i think that's why we will have a good night tonight. >> i have to say the other part of this that was a head scratcher to me was chris christie was telegraphing this hit for days, you knew it was coming. it wasn't like it came out of -- oh, my god, where did that come from? he was telegraphing there. obviously you wanted to -- he made the decision i don't want to get into this, i don't want to punch down, but, boy, christie had the microphone, why wasn't he more prepared to fight back. >> we are not running against anybody else on this stage. >> hang on a minute. when jeb bush telegraphed the hit in that debate that marco was ready. i mean, he was ready for that and he was ready to go toe to toe with him. why wasn't he ready to go toe to to toe with chris knee. >> republicans don't want to see marco rubio attacking other
republicans. >> they don't want to see the same line said four times, either. >> to go in and day tack the most popular guy in the field -- >> i'm not sure it helped christie, i don't know if it did. i think -- but i guess that's the surprising part. as prepared as you guys were for jeb to come after you in that october debate, to not be at the ready on this one. >> our fundraising went through the roof during the first hour of that debate, the polls since there show marco holding steady did if not growing a little bit, our crowds are surging. some of the pundits were tough on marco but the voters at home they like the candidate they saw on the stage on saturday night, the same candidate they saw do the sunday shows on sunday, including your show a week ago and then -- >> we'll book you this sunday. coming up this sunday, marco rubio on "meet the press." >> marco has done more interviews than any other candidate in the race, i think we will have a good night. >> thank you very much. >> i think you just said second place. that's a win for you. >> top tier. >> top tier.
all right. >> well, look, other candidates have spent a ton of time here, they've invested everything they've got, we're running a 50-state campaign, we want to come in the top tier and i believe we will. after the break we will head to the largest polling station in the state of new hampshire to see how the voting has been going there so far this morning. but first nothing fuels a campaign more than caffeine. within the last hour chelsea clinton tweeted out this photo of herself and her mom at the counter ordering what else in the northeast, some dunkin' donuts. chelsea wrote time to fuel up with some hot coffee, brig be some your way soon derry. we're back after this. in new york state, we believe tomorrow starts today. all across the state the economy is growing, with creative new business incentives, the lowest taxes in decades, and university partnerships,
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lot of talk about trump and bernie sanders on the democratic side, guys, back to you. >> all right. tony, thanks very much. can't wait to here more and more about those people that decided which ballot. that's what's kind of cool. they expect -- here is the good news about new hampshire, some 600,000 will vote today, that would be -- there's 850,000 registered voters, that's going to be nearly a 70% turn out. iowa was small, this is big. >> the fact that the undeclared voters factor, is such the x factor. how do you poll around that? >> that's why new hampshire is the graveyard of pollsters. after the break does the result of new hampshire make or break any of the campaigns anymore? we'll figure that out. but first. >> it's that time. >> it's that time, savannah. are you hungry? today's soup of the day at jd's tavern just around the corner, you know, story, guys, minestrone, it's america's leftovers. >> minestrone, whatever was there the night before, you put
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so will today's vote in new hampshire winnow the field or simply raise the stakes for south carolina? >> let's bring in our panel. ji james pindell and dan. doorng to you. >> we say this is the dave yard of pollsters what about pundits. what's going to happen tonight? >> i'm heading for the graveyard. >> i mean, what would truly shock you tonight? >> well, what would truly shock me is a very close finish in either race. i think, you know, i think we expected bernie sanders is going
to have a pretty good victory, you know, how much hillary clinton has been able to narrow that gap we don't know. the polls differ on that. but that would be a surprise if she comes in a close second. similarly donald trump who underperformed his poll numbers in iowa, if he were to do that again here and somebody had a surge, that would be a surprise. >> james, this is i think your fourth cycle here in new hampshire. >> right. >> what is it that you have learned to watch for on sort of election eve that actually has provided a hint in the past? >> that last bit of momentum. you see it in election right rallies, it's that last bit. this has been such a hard election to have your head around, people have been losing momentum. that has been the bigger story. i'm intellectually there that donald trump could lose i just am not intellectually aware of who can beat him. the big shocker would be if hillary clinton is able to pull this out. i am not there by any means. >> i think it's interesting
because as you said, dan, donald trump did underperform his polls, he is not a traditional politician, he doesn't appear to have the traditional machinery of the get out the vote, it's less of an issue in new hampshire perhaps, but you seem to feel like he probably will win. >> i think there are two reasons. one is if you think back to pat buchanan's 1996 campaign there is a buchanan-like constituency that is in part overlapping with what donald trump is doing, the tough on trade, tough on immigration, that message. so he's got a constituency here that i think is probably pretty solid. i think the other factor that helps him is that the rest of the field is so fractured. nobody has been able to consolidate that. if somebody had he would be in real trouble. >> it's interesting. there's always room in new hampshire for sort of the -- the intellectual reformer candidate. i don't know how to put it, whether we're talking paul stongas in '92, john mccain
circa 2000, less so i think in 2008. who is playing that role in time? is it kasich? >> i think it is kasich, historically that candidate doesn't go very well. you have this in the last couple cycles, whether it's john hunts man who says i'm not going to go to iowa, i'm going to be this independent, we will talk policy, rough and tumble or wesley clark in 2004 who tried the same thing. if there's anyone who has a little momentum it may be says kick, it may be actually jeb bush. >> it doesn't seem like they're going to get any clarity tonight. it doesn't seem like new hampshire will perform its duty of winnowing the field. >> i think it's going to be a one-two punch. south carolina is going to play that role that we thought new hampshire was going to play this time. >> i want to check in with chris januaryser, she's been at a polling place in bedford, new hampshire and got a minute or two with jeb bush. chris, what did he tell you? >> yeah, he showed up here and he was shaking hands, you can
actually walk into where people are voting and he did and he was talking to folks. on the way out he was answering questions about everything, not surprisingly he had questions about drug addiction as to what would he do about the drug abuse they are feeling so much here. i asked him about today what's going to happen. here is just a tiny bit of my conversation that i just had moments ago. >> good morning, governor. >> good morning. >> do you feel like you're winning over last minute votes? >> in a very chaotic kind of way. >> how does it feel? >> it feels good. i feel left -- i didn't leave much on the field so to speak so i feel good about where we are. >> reporter: i asked him about whether or not he had sent a present to chris christie after the debate and putting marco rubio back on his heels and he kind of laughed and, you know, morphed that into a person by person critique of the rest of the field. he has been the one who has really gone after donald trump, he reiterated today he cannot
hijack our party. as far as john kasich i asked him if that was his main competition today he said i will put my record up against anybody else. what they're feeling good about besides the fact they sense momentum, they have a lot more media following them around over the last couple of days than they have in an awfully long time which feeds to that energy. they also feel like they have a great ground game in south carolina and nevada. they have move people from here out to here. they have 250 out of state volunteers a lot from florida who will go there. i want to make one more point. you were talking about the number of people who come out to vote in new hampshire. here in bedford which is kind of a well to do suburb of manchester, they had 15,510 people registered as of last night. the guy who is running this election spot thinks that 12,000 of them will vote today. early returns are 1,351 in the first couple of hours. i know, isn't that crazy numbers? >> wow. >> i love t though. that's good. i love that.
>> it's been nonstop. the parking lot you can't find a place to park. >> the engagement has been great. say what you want about trump or sanders, they have energized this race. >> chris jansing, thank you so much. >> dan, very quick, does anybody get out after this? or did rubio's debate performance say to all these guys, he's got a glass jaw i'm going to south carolina? >> i think everybody came out of that debate thinking this means there is incentive for anybody to get out, i think the results may tell us something different. >> you still need money. >> you would need money and if you're sixth, even a close sixth or close fifth it's still tough. >> especially if you are one of these big names. >> you're calling donors and they are not picking up. >> remember joe lieberman. three-way tie for third place. >> let's not forget that. >> three-way tie for third. that was great spin. >> i think i got that in like track as a high schooler.
all right. thanks so much, guys, appreciate it. and coming up next voter turn out of course expected to be big today, but does it favor any candidate in particular? we're going to talk to the chairman of the new hampshire democratic party. and one thing not expected to affect turn out too much is the weather, it's expected to be chilly across the state but mostly dry, just a few flurries. >> it's new hampshire. come on. >> it will take a lot more than that. we're back after this. how much protein does your dog food have?
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i am just looking for a great election day. as many people who can turn out, express their opinions, be part of this process. for me, that's a big reason why it's so important. >> hillary clinton up early this morning, shaking hands, taking some selfies with supporters at a polling location in manchester, new hampshire. >> let's talk about voter fernout, we're joined by the chairman of the new hampshire democratic party. been a new hampshire operative for years. >> good morning. >> so, it's going to be who is
going to have more ballots, the democratic side or republican side. most people assume republicans because there's so many candidates, but it's pretty intense, isn't it? >> ground operation. both hillary and bernie individually have more local offices, more organizers on the ground, than all of the republicans added together. >> no kidding. >> the absolutely ignored the ground operation. they put all the ground into iowa. it's really been events, visits, interviews, not ground operation at all. >> you think there may be more democratic ballots than republican? >> i'll put money on it. >> no kidding. >> how much money? just kidding. you have a lot of new voters? >> expect tens of thousands onew voters. remember, 2008, 2012, college campuses were empty. the kids were off on winter break. >> because it was earlier. so this one, we haven't had this since '04. >> you have small colleges
throughout the state. it could have an impact. >> let me ask you about sort of this issue of what's going on inside the democratic party. is it -- we haven't seen this really in 40, 50 years. not since gene mccarthy. the party wants to redefine itself as a more idealogically driven party. do you buy that? >> i think it is interesting to see this. and the conversation that's going on about that. but the thing i'm very proud of, not one negative television ad has gone out. that is so different than what's going on on the republican side, where they're spending millions of dollars beating the living stuffing out of each other. and the fact that bernie or hillary has not one negative thing that's happened. that's going to make a difference. >> we were chatting in the break. you said something interesting. granted, you're the chairman of the democratic party. we were talking about republicans. >> but a longtime new hampshire resident. >> you were struck by the fact
that donald trump used that word, repeating a supporter's description of ted cruz, a word we won't repeat there. you thing that will really turn off voters. >> if he had said that on saturday or friday or thursday, he would come in third or fourth here. >> because a lot of trump supporters they say above all things, they like he says things no one else would say. >> that crosses the line. they like -- >> a little puretism still here, we have dignity, a line here? >> exactly. it would be a fatal blow. i hope it is in future states. >> ray buckley, chair of the democratic party. we'll hold you to your prediction. more democratic voters than republican voters tonight. >> if there's not, i'll give you free chicken tenders from the back room. >> we'll hold you to it. >> i like it. done. >> we have a lot more ahead on our next hour live from manchester, new hampshire, on this primary tuesday.
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chuck says that polling live shot is really exciting. here you have people lined up. >> outside our hotel, just because it's snowing outside. >> is that a horse? it's some sort of -- >> probably a mule. >> some kind of -- >> they're for bernie, but i don't know what animal it is. >> it's a yak, someone said. by the way, there have been pet pigs. >> really? >> pigs on a leash. a pig on a leash in the lobby. anyway, we have seen clinton, rubio, kasich, bush, hand shaking. looking for some of the earliest results. the most meaningless numbers you'll see all day. bernie sanders won all four democratic voters, that's a sweep. that means he's going to shut her out. the republican side, john kasich won 3-2, three-run homer in the bottom of the ninth. they have predicted a gop nominee in every cycle. >> you can go home, catch some
zs. let us get to our political team on the ground here in new hampshire. they're punchy, too. kristen welker with the clinton campaign in nashua, and here with us on set, andrea mitchell and peter alexander. good morning, all. ready for a long day. >> you look great together. >> i know, we have. >> we can't stand this. >> no, are you kidding? it's so fun. >> so much fun. >> we're having a good time. >> speaking of having not so good times. >> it's a crazy day. what do we think is going to happen? >> i think if any polling holds up, sanders has a very big lead. the clinton people will try to spin it if they whittle it down to single digits, but the basic fact was she was popular here in new hampshire. the clintons have a love affair with new hampshire going back, he in '92, she in '08, and they blew a 40-point lead. >> if she doesn't win, it's long time until south carolina's primary. >> it's going to be a long way
through south carolina and nevada, he's got roots and some union support. and he's got some sway in the midwest down the road. >> you know, and peter, donald trump, 75 straight polls. >> that's right. he's led. >> 75 straight polls. yet we're all wondering, geez, is it going to hold? because we saw the number he got in iowa was about five to eight points less than what all the polling showed the night before. is that what we're looking at now? and by the way, he could drop five or eight points and still win, if you believe the polls. >> i defer to tom brokaw who said we're not in a prediction business. certainly not in new hampshire. but i think the safe bet, obviously, is that donald trump comes away with his first political win. recognize the guy is still a political novice. this would be a historic night alone to see him on top right now. and what was striking last night as you saw when he used the vulgar language we have talked about enough on the air. for any other campaign, that would be a moment where the aides would be behind the curtains saying oh, my goodness,
did we just flush this all away? for donald trump, that's part of the brag a -- >>a, the bravado that has branded his campaign. >> i asked him about it this morning on "morning joe," and he said, well, the audience loved it. it's all about audience. >> he thinks he's providing them a show as much as anything. this is not about policy. this is about delivering for the audience. >> watch the body language. >> as confident as we have seen him last night. >> he's feeling it ben. he was a humbled guy on sunday still with me. he suddenly got his swagger back. >> let's go to kriszen welker covering the clinton campaign. like clockwork, we saw the day before new hampshire shake-up story. is there anything to it? >> well, secretary clinton sort of gave a denial, not denial when rachel maddow asked her that question. she said i have full confidence in my staff. at the same time, we have to
take a hard look at the campaign in the wake of iowa and new hampshire because we're entering a new phase of the campaign. to put a little meat on that bone, i have been talking to campaign officials who say, look, because they are expanding into southern states, super tuesday states, you can potentially expect to see some new people on board, some new officials in those states. but again, in terms of a broader shake-up, they are still denying that that is going to happen. what is happening right now, savannah, they are bracing for the possibility of a loss here, as you know, she is trailing senator sanders and as andrea just said, by double digits. so the expectation and the hope is that they can narrow that to single digits. i caught up with secretary clinton earlier today. she stopped by a polling place at about 6:40 a.m. this morning and i asked her if a single digit loss would actually be a win. here's what she had to say. >> i'm just looking for a great election day. as many people who can turn out, express their opinions, be part
of this process. and for me, that's a big reason why it's so important. thank you. >> and i just want to give you guys a live look right now. we're at a field office in nashua where folks are getting their marching orders. they're about to go out, start knocking on doors, encouraging people to head out and vote and make their voices heard. this is really their final pitch today here in new hampshire. and they're looking forward, the clinton campaign, to what comes next. they're focusing on caucus states, those southern states, super tuesday states. they're focusing on rallying the obama coalition. african-americans and women voters. she's trailing women voters here. i have been talking to some of her top officials about whether or not that is disconcerting moving forward. they are increasing their attempts to reach out to female voters. you heard that in her message. she's also bringing out some of her top female surrogates on the trail. it remains to be seen whether
that new strategy is working. >> all right, kristen, thank you so much. >> andrea, i want to talk about bill clinton here. i think there's a point that you wonder, is it diminishing returns with him on the campaign trail? i think he's effective with donors, with general election voters. but he struggle s being a surrogate on the trail because he's a spouse, not a president. >> exactly. he said it awkwardly last night at the last event. >> but honestly. i think it was a moment of clarity. >> as transparent as it could be. he said, at times i wish i wasn't the spouse. that i was just a former president. then i could say what i think. last night, they had devolved into i wish i weren't married to her. >> what are you saying? wait until limbaugh gets ahold of that one. >> as the spouse, you get so -- he's talked about this. you get so protective. all political spouses understand this. >> let's take a listen to it actually. you have to hear it and
experience it. >> why do you think bernie sanders' argument is having an impact here? what can you do to counteract it? >> first of all, here, there's never been a candidate bordering new hampshire who didn't win the primary in an open challenge, including when i ran. >> do you think he's been unfair to her? >> i think he's been inaccurate. unfair is -- the point is, we have a chance to debate him now. it's all out in the open. that's good. >> that wasn't the bite we were looking for, talking about the other stuff, but go ahead. >> his point is he feels that they have been inaccurate. and that they have twisted the record. of course, the sanders camp thinks it's the opposite. it's getting nasty between the two. his role is so unique because even though jane sanders has a really important operational and advisory role with her husband, bill clinton is bill clinton, a former president and one of the great retail politicians of our generation. >> as i am somebody close to
clinton say to me, look, the problem is whatever bill clinton says is bigger news than any other spouse. and there's nothing you can do about it. >> it's amplified. >> everything gets amplifiieamp. >> that's good if you like him and he's on message. >> yes, close the deal. >> heteleprompter, but still, it just isn't -- that's what makes it difficult. >> we're talking about this already in new hampshire, but remember when it was south carolina, the things bill clinton said about another candidate, how damaging that was with the fairy tale line. this is a challenge the clinton campaign is struggling with. they recognize he's still this big beast and he's going to get them oxygen, but it's always one of those end of the day conversations, like, so how did that go for us? >> let's talk about the republicans. so many of the also-rans, the non-trumps, they have a little pep in their step this morning. they seem to think that what happened on saturday night is going to go into their -- it's going to be to their benefit. >> i tell you who had a lot of
pep today, was john kasich. >> for sure. >> could be a sleeper. you don't know. he's had a lot of support from very smart republicans here in new hampshire. john sununu, the former senator, longtime republican operatives. he's been here every day. he's got two sides of his message which are appealing to what would normally be a new hampshire republican or independent. one is fiscal sobriety. as a form eer house budget chai and a serious one, and optimism and cheeriness. >> to punctuate that, i called two undecided voters. what's remarkable is the undecideds will decide the race. i called a nice couple. >> you have been stalking them? >> the key to the game is you don't just do an interview. when you talk to an undecided, you get their phone number to follow up. i called them and they said we're not undecided anymore.
we're going john kasich. they were deciding between trump and kasich. they were at the trump event last night. they said we have made up our minds. >> what did they make of the vulgarity? >> i'm going to call back to find out. >> the other person who seems really optimistic is jeb bush today. >> by the way, though, savannah is right. christie is feeling good. marco is feeling good. >> i know. >> this is why we love new hampshire. kristen welker, of course, thank you. andrea, peter. >> love you guys. >> see you at noon. >> after narrowly losing to hillary clinton in iowa, bernie sanders is hoping to make a statement with a big win here in new hampshire. >> that's right. joining us now, former ohio state senator nina turner who had been involved with clinton's super pac before switching sides and endorsing bernie sanders. good morning. good to have you. are you feeling good about your guy tonight? >> i am, savannah and chuck. very excited. this is really about turnout, as we know, all about the numbers. i am confident that senator sanders will win tonight.
but it is really all about the turnout. we want people not to let the weather to deter them. they have to vote and make their voices heard. >> how important is the size of the victory tonight? i mean, yes, a win's a win. delegates matter, but do you think the campaign needs to make a statement with a big win that matches what the polling numbers are saying? >> well, just want them to win. you know the polls are snapshots in time. as somebody who has been a candidate for state-wide office, you're always excited when the polls are running your way, not so excited when they're not. we just nieed to win tonight. this really is about the voters coming out and making their voices heard. so the more the merrier in a democracy. i firmly believe that, no matter who folks are voting for, people have to get out and vote and make this democracy the strongest we can. >> we just talked about the bill clinton factor. obviously, he's a powerful surrogate. got a good megaphone. do you think what he said about bernie sanders on sunday night, that critique, do you think that hurt? >> well, hurts the clinton
campaign. i mean, to come out that viciously against senator sanders was certainly unwarranted. it just makes no sense to me. i have been talking to a lot of folks who feel the same way. look, this is a campaign about issues. folks don't want to hear the bickering back and forth between the candidates. they want to know what the candidates stand for, how they're going to fight for them. there was a mother, she's 46 years old, from california, she sent me an e-mail. she lives in the rural parts of california. she only makes $9,600 a year. she has two sons. she said when we talk about poor people, we're talking about her, because poor people are hurting in the country. that's not senator sanders is talking about when he talks about increasing the minimum wage, shoring up social security, when he talks about universal health care for all in this country. that is what folks want to hear about. we have been really trying to focus in on the issues and on the people, and not these attacks that are bandying about between the candidates. >> what do you make of the fact you find quite a few trump/sanders undecided voters?
>> well, i mean, people are still making up their mind. that's fair in a democracy. i don't make anything of it. i hope when people really drill down and look at the candidates head to head and decide, and i'm hoping they will decide sanders has the best message. i heard you talking about my governor from the great state of ohio, governor kasich, who i think he won the first historic vote tonight. i have to say about governor kasich, he has been the only one on the national stage in terms of the republicans who has been very positive. i hear his name quite often when i'm stumping across the country for senator sanders. again, this is about which candidate has the best vision for the people of the country, who is going to lift them and take them to the next level. dr. martin luther king said we have social for the wealthy and rugged individualism for the poor. sanders is saying we live in america. we have enough resources to lift all people so they can live out their greatest greatness, and use the imprint of the presidency to make sure that
that happens for all people. we are not going to leave anybody behind, chuck and savannah, in this great country of ours. >> all turner, sanders supporter, if you couldn't tell. thank you for your time this morning. let's get a different perspective, brian fallon, press secretary for the clinton campaign. happy primary. >> good to be here. >> is it a happy primary day? there you go. is there -- look, we went through this the other hour. how much deja vu did some people have in the campaign? eight years ago, 24 hours before the primary, oh my god, the sky is falling for the clinton campaign. staff shake-up, primary day comes, you win. do you feel like oddly enough was histrhee a good omen having to deal with these horrible stories? >> we still have our work cut out for us here. senator sanders' lead has been durable, consistent. there was a momentary blip in october when we had a strong stretch with secretary clinton's appearance in the first debate and her appearance at the
benghazi hearing where we briefly led. otherwise, his lead has been pretty consistent. i think it's a testament to the fact he's a known quantity in new hampshire. as president clinton said in the clip a few minutes ago, new englanders always fair well, except for ted kennedy running against jimmy carter. >> is hillary clinton not a known quantity here? >> don't get me wrong, there's a lot of affection here for the clintons as well. made bill clinton the comeback kid in 1992, but sanders has a lot of warm feelings for him. until recently, there hasn't been the same level of scrutiny and the same level of republican attacks. when the republicans come through here in new hampshire, they don't talk about just each other. they talk about hillary clinton because a big proof point for them about who is going to be the best republican nominee is who can take on hillary clinton. a lot of the headlines the new hampshire people wake up to is attack lines on hillary clinton. >> sanders has his commanding
lead in most of the polls. do you think it's in the realm of possibility for hillary clinton to get it into the single digits tonight? >> most of the polls show us trailing by double digits, but we're going to work our heart out. we have been doing that all week. she was with president clinton yesterday, having breakfast, meeting voters. this morning, she was in manchester's ward 10. we're out there. she was door knocking with a senator over the weekend. she's doing the hard retail campaigning. we're trying to cut into his lead, but it's an uphill climb. >> how do you explain that lead? saying he's a regional candidate does not seem to be sufficient to explain away a double-digit difference between them. >> well, i think there's a few factors. that's a big one. it looms large. the "new york times" had a story the other day talking about on the western side of the state, the media market bleeds in. over the course of 25 years in congress, which is true for senator sanders. he likes to talk about the fact he's running against the establishment. he ran in congress for 25 years. that's a lot of labor,
breakfasts, coming across the border, generating support in new hampshire. i think it's no small thing the republican fire has been aimed at hillary clinton. that's true of all the republican candidates stumping throughout new hampshire. >> after new hampshire is nevada. how important is nevada? >> nevada is an important state. so is south carolina, which comes after that. >> both must-win sdmz. >> i think we're looking to run strong in those two states. i think there's going to be a narrowing in both places. we're clear-eyed about that fact. >> after this, suddenly, this is a two-person 50/50 type of race? >> the "washington post" had a smart item today that talked about there's reasons to believe senator sanders should fair well in a state like nevada. there's an important hispanic element to the democratic caucus in nevada, but it's still a state that is 80% white voters. you have a caucus style format, and he'll have the momentum coming out of new hampshire, presumab presumably, so there's a lot of
reasons he should do well. that said, we're confident in the organization we built there, and we have a lot of experience, being the state director in 2008 for a win hillary clinton secured last time. we're feeling good, but there's a reason to believe the race will tighten even there. >> brian, looks like we're in a long slog. >> we're ready. >> see you in california in june? >> we're ready to wage a nomination contest that goes for several months. however, i do think, remember, by the end of march, 60% of delegates will be awarded. i think there will be a candidate at the end of march with a lead. >> a load you can't overtake? >> that will effectively have somebody that is the 41-runner and on a path. won't be ath able to mathematically clinch it, but the lead will be insurmountable. >> end of march. >> we'll see. >> happy primary day. >> up next, will chris christie step up attacks on marco rubio pay off? a surge at the polls today. and if you want to get a sense of the mood up here in new hampshire, take a look at the cover of today's union leader.
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christie. people started calling him marco rob roboto. >> is it wrong that i go back to our childhood and stix? >> yeah, you're not the only one. a lot of people remember stix with fondness. let's bring in gabe gutierrez following the rubio campaign in salem. and kelly o'donnell following the christie campaign. she joins us from manchester. gabe, good morning. we heard from marco rubio this morning. we talked to his communications director. last hour. they're putting on a happy face, but they say things have been going well for them in terms of donations, in terms of conservative talk radio hosts rallying to their defense. what are you hearing? >> yeah, savannah, as you mentioned, the campaign saying, look, they raised more than $600,000 on saturday despite that debate performance. rush him bah is endorsing them. they're putting out a poll
saying, listen, this media narrative is not what it seems. but then again, savannah, there has been no reliable polling since the saturday debate. the big question right now is how that stumble against chris christie, how that will affect his final turnout here in new hampshire. now, he did speak to reporters very briefly earlier today, as he was visiting the polling places. this is what he had to say. >> it's an incredible experience and an incredible process. and we love being a part of it. we feel real good, we're going to finish strong here and head to south carolina. >> he is saying that today will be historic in his words, he says volunteers are at this polling location any minute now, but the big question now, how will that debate performance really play on the voters? his campaign says, look, it won't. but we just have to wait and see. back to you. >> all right. gabe gutierrez, thank you so much.
>> kelly o'donnell, you're following crist christy. for there the candidates are required to stay outside. we were able to talk to the governor. there was a crush of media, also volunteers from a variety of campaigns. christie had kind of an army of volunteers ready because they knew he would come here, cameras would follow. it created that kind of election day spectacle that is good for a campaign. we're now inside ward 1, where there are long lines for people to actually cast their votes. this is even light because we're in that morning time between people getting off for lunch and having to go to work earlier today, even longer lines. some of the officials here at the table who are here every year, told me this is very active, more than 1100 ballots already cast. so their sense is that there's great interest in voting. so i was able to kind of get through the crush of people outside, got close to governor christie, asked him sort of for that game day here we are
assessment. this is what he said. >> what does this day mean to you, and do you believe that the polling reflects what you're seeing and feeling? >> certainly not reflecting what our internal polling is seeing. we have seen a real surge since saturday night. and so we expect to go. so we expect to do very well, and what today means, it's an amazing moment. >> and so we know that christie has been lagging behind the other governors, the lane he's been trying to do well in. he thinks and says and certainly wants to spin that his performance in the debate against rubio and more broadly in the debate, could help him. his real key is saying he believes republicans want to choose someone who is prepared to do the job and prepared to take on hillary clinton in the fall. especially on the debate stage. and in the rough and tumble day to day campaigning. that's what christie is trying to do. he's making other stops at polling places. retail, as we say, where he can
meet people, shake hands, do all of that. staying out more than some of the other candidates today, trying to get interest, attention, people to the polls before he will have his event tonight in nashua. chuck, savannah. >> all right, kelly. thanks very much. >> let's do a little deeper dive in here with the christie campaign. old friend of ours here from the daily rundown days. mike tuhane. how are you doing? >> great. how are you? >> you look peppy. >> you look relaxed, almost zen. >> i feel relaxed. i have never been called zen before. >> you have been on multiple presidential campaigns. you did rudy. compare it. compare the feeling today to previous -- you did bush in 2000, all that stuff. >> sure, it feels very good. you know, a campaign sometimes you can't put your finger on what it feels like out there. certainly, the crowds last night and everything sunday morning, a huge crowd we didn't expect sunday morning after the debate. everything feels different in a positive way since the debate. >> the governor told me this
morning he's not going to call new hampshire do or die. maybe before saturday night he would have. he feels what happened saturday night and his takedown of marco rubio rejiggered this race for everyone. do you agree. >> i agree with that. i think there was a rush to coronate marco roubio after coming in third place. that's not going to happen. donors are looking at marco roubio and are going to reassess. i don't think the field is going to coalesce to three people after tonight. >> the question that has faced you, john kasich, has been this. you guys do well here, what do you have in south carolina? there is this question, you have put a lot of chips here in new hampshire. what do you have in south carolina? >> here's what i'll say about south carolina. the people with the most money are not winning. jeb bush is not winning here. marco rubio spent $5 million against us in new hampshire and it took us five minutes to eviscerate that. we have enough organization, enough money. enough people on the campaign have been through big campaigns
before and big political committees. we know how to scale up as well as anyone else does. the big issue will be collecting money as quickly as it's going to come in after a big night. >> everybody agrees he had a big moment saturday night. a big moment for governor christ christie. it heard rubio. did it help christie? and what are the metrics you use to support that? >> as governor christie said, we have internals that shows he's moving up and marco is moving down. there's a big cluster between second and sixth place. for us, that's good. we feel like we're going to have momentum tonight. most importantly, beyond the first two states that vote, people saw saturday night that governor christie is the person who can take on donald trump, who can take on hillary clinton. and marco is not ready for that. quite frankly. nobody on the stage will be as good at that. >> are we going to have a three-way tie for third? part of me thinks we could see, you know, 13 to 18%, and you know -- >> it could be a very big
cluster there. that's why i feel like after saturday night, the party is not ready to coalesce behind donald trump, ted cruz, and marco rubio. they may not settle on who, but it will continue longer. >> does this mean that what we think new hampshire would do, south carolina will be the field winnower? >> i think it will unless it's a three-way tie for third. >> when will the winnowing happen? >> i like it. let's go to cleveland. >> mike, ever zen. >> there you go. >> we have to do a full disclosure on stix. >> i know that fan. if you have metallic or iron maiden, i'm ready. >> we don't hate stix here. >> we don't want to acknowledge how much we might like them. >> at this point, mike is sailing. >> sailing away. thank you, mike. >> all right, speaking of sailing away. >> i know, good segue.
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our own jacob soboroff is on a student shuttle bus near the university of new hampshire in durham. you know, it's interesting, you're on this bus in durham, and the chairman of the democratic party brought up the fact this is the first time in 12 years school has been in session when the new hampshire primary has taken place. no winter break this time. >> that's exactly right. we actually heard the same conversation happen in iowa around the caucus. this bus actually was packed with people. we unloaded a whole load of students and now we're about to drop off students at the polling place. this is braden and matthew. and you guys are unnh students, right? >> that's right. >> is this your first time voting? >> it is. turn eed 18 in june. >> what party are you going to register for? >> do you know what party you're voting for? >> sanders. >> i voted for obama, but this is my second time voting. >> who are you looking at? >> bernie sanders absolutely.
>> awould you say on campus, is everybody feeling the bern? >> that's safe to say. >> what is it about bernie sanders that resonated with the folks you go to school with? >> he works hard to provide the highest quality of life to everyone, not just the privileged people in america. i think really people resonate with that, and unh is a caring campus and everyone cares for them. >> i want to talk about voter turnout at the high school we're about to pull in right flow, they expect between 3,000 and 5,000 people to turn out. in 2012, they had 3,000 same-day registrations in the general election. they expect a lot of same-day registrations as well today. a busy day out here. >> a massive turnout again. i go back to what we talked about earlier. school's in session. dartmouth, unh, you name it. a huge turnout. good work. i love the live footage on the bus. nicely done. thank you, sir. >> well, new hampshire's union leader tweeted out a picture showing the traffic jam in merrimack, as cars line up waiting to get into the high school parking lot in order to
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most polls close in new hampshire at 7:00 p.m. eastern. that leaves us over eight hours for the voters to let their choices be known before everyone starts leaking information that won't be quite accurate. trent is executive editor of the new hampshire union leader. molly covers politics for the atlantic. and chris jansing is live at a polling place in bedford. chris, let me start with you. every other polling place we check in with says record
turnout. are you in the amen chorus on that as well? >> not only are the people here predicting it, but it's what we're seeing. not just a steady stream of people, but it's been packed. this is actually probably the lightest i have seen it in the last couple hours. in the first three hours, they had more than 2,000 people. we told you that last hour, there were 15,000, a little more than that registered here. they think they'll have at least 12,000 vote. in the back corner, i don't know if you can see the line, but those are new registrations. they don't have a number on that yet, but they expect to by early afternoon. in addition, they'll be counting the absentee ballots. and also a steady stream of people coming in. in fact, right here, carly f fiorina a short time ago, a guy walked up and said, hi, i'm undecided. she said i'm not allowed to electi electioneer. she had a selfie taken with him. jeb bush was here first, marco rubio, maybe 5 or 10 minutes later.
their buses probably crossed there was so much traffic. here's a little bit of my conversation with both of them. >> senator, how are you feeling about tonight? >> feeling great. everybody is great. >> you got to make tough decisions, and having a record of having done it, i think, is important. i'll compare my record with anybody's including marco and ted cruz and donald trump and john kasich and chris christie. that's what this is about. it's not being disrespectful for someone to point out that you have a better record. >> marco rubio, by the way, staying on message, suggesting that the debate the other night where he repeated himself did not hurt, but there's no doubt he and his staff, a lot more tense and intense than, say, jeb bush was. we'll see. but again, i think this polling place opened until 7:00, they're expecting about 1,000 people an hour. >> i have to say, turns out it's
a good place to get presidential candidates. nice work, chris. >> carson is on his way. >> there you go. ben carson. i remember him. anyway, chris jansing, thanks very much. let me turn to trent and molly. trent, you're the local guy. you better know -- you better be an expert for us locally. i want to ask about the trump profanity. ray buckley was on here earlier. he said if this happened friday instead of yesterday, it would have cost him first place. there's still a new hampshire puretism that just doesn't approve of that kind of language. do you agree? >> i don't agree with ray buckley. i think trump tapped into something thatimably we didn't understand a few months ago. i think voters are angry and he's found a way to channel them. the question is, will he back the verizon center last night? is he able to get those people to come see him at the polls today. >> molly, i keep trying to remind my friends, my colleagues, we're all so, who's going to finish second, third? i'm like, guys, bernie sanders and donald trump may win the new
hampshire primary. if i told you that six months ago, you would have said i was nuts. >> that's a pretty big deal. >> or as joe biden said this is a big fd. >> freaking deal. the thing you hear from trump's camp is, waite, we came in second and everybody said you're a loser. this time, all people want to talk about is who is coming in second place. what about the winner? if he does win, he wants credit. we have to acknowledge it's a remarkable thing for donald trump to win the new hampshire primary and for bernie sanders to win. >> when new hampshire is angry, they're the first to elus. '88, before any of us were born, the country was upset, didn't like the president. new hampshire and mccarthy told us. 1992, pat buchanan helped send a message that they were sending to george h.w. bush. sanders/trump dual victory here does the same thing. >> i think you're right and there is this untapped anger.
people don't feel like the system is working for them. that's why, you know, i heard brian fallon earlier saying this was, that bernie sanders was a regional candidate and that's why he was doing so well here. i just don't think that's true. i think that his message is better here. it's resonating better with voters. this is a state where they have the second highest student loan debt in the country. the highest in-state public college tuition. here he comes in with a plan saying i'm going to make public college free. a state where you can become an elected official with a couple hundred bucks. he says i want to take big money out of politics. i think bernie and trump have really resonated with voters here. >> it's also a state with a huge number of independent voters. as we know. and i think that's the big wild card in today's primary on both sides. how many of the independent voters, especially new voters, come out because they're voting for donald trump and bernie sanders? and independent voters by definition are people who do not relate to the two-party system. people feel left out of the
democratic and republican -- >> people want to say independent is synonymous with moderate. it is not. it's, i don't want to belong to those two clubs. >> an alienation that says these people don't represent me. if they're coming out in droves, that's a big deal, but it may not carry forward to other states. >> there are 300,000 people who are going to make a decision. >> and then they make their decision about who they're voting for. >> these are the people who are going to make the election. >> we'll see what the front page is going to be tomorrow. what's going to be on the wood? >> we'll see. >> we'll see, all right. we'll see record high voter turnout. that we know. the question is how high will it go? good news, by the way, it's not going to be impacted by mother nature. mostly dry and chilly. essentially, it's new hampshire. there will be a few flurries somewhere. who cares? put your snow shoes on, g out there and vote. we'll be right back with the one and only tom brokaw. a heart attack doesn't care if you run everyday,
no pill relieves heartburn faster. up next, our own tom brokaw has seen plenty of surprises here in new hampshire. you'll hear one of his favorite expressions, unforeseen, what can we expect today? tom joins me next. here's a look back at some of his highlights in the granite state. >> good evening from new hampshire, the state of surprising finishes in its presidential primary. boy, did new hampshire come up with a surprising finish tonight. >> what a difference a wyche makes. environment george bush is a born again presidential candidate tonight. winning impressively in this first presidential primary state, beating bob dole by a substantial margin. >> new hampshire voters sent president bush a strong message. listen up, no politics as usual. >> a substantial victory for
john mccain as he challenged george w. bush for the republican nomination, based on interviews with voters as they left the polls today, we think john mccain will win in double digits. >> this is an nbc news decision 2004 update. here is tom brokaw. >> good evening from new hampshire where the polls have now closed. john kerry appears to have a narrow lead over howard dean. other candidates are considerably behind. ♪ if you're looking to save money on your medicare part d prescriptions, walgreens says, carpe med diem. seize the day to get more out of life and medicare part d. just switch to walgreens for savings that'll be the highlight of your day. now preview the cost of your copay before you fill. you can even get one-dollar copays on select plans.
it's the most helpful thing. i also call this time of day and the last two day what i call the presuper bowl speculation game. somebody at the end of tonight is going to be a carolina panther. you know, somebody is going to be putting a hoodie up over his head and saying no, no, no, i don't like what i have been through here. we just don't know. there are some things that are in play. donald trump's numbers will not go down. i mean, they stay very high. he has not changed his tactics. he changed his tone a little bit. last night in a big rally. >> back to being the old donald. >> back to the old donald. he repeated an expletive. that was not part of what new hampshire has always been. it has been tough here in the past. >> what's interesting here, new hampshire is probably two of their most famous second-place finishers, gene mccarthy in '68, pat buchanan in '92. and they both sent big messages.
in some ways, we have both buchanan and mccarthy on the ballot, on the left with sanders and on the right with trump. they both may be sending similar messages. >> for all its successes we were talking about, new hampshire doing well, 3% unemployment. >> that's the other thing, what are they ticked off about? >> when i came up here, it was a poor, rural state with a dairy industry and some agriculture. now it has technology. it was a ben fiseficiary of tax migration. you heard someone saying today, i guess to pete alexander or one of our correspondents, donald trump is the chemotherapy for the cancer in this country. i'm not sure where all that comes from if you're living in new hampshire. everyone i know up here has a pretty good life. they're wondering why they should be unhappy. >> is this the way we should do this? the way this process should work? i'm starting to have some doubt. >> i do. you know, on the process itself,
i think that i like to have this tuesday be new hampshire, south carolina, and iowa. regionalize it, all on the same day. there's a lot of money that is frankly wasted in running from one to the other. i also think we ought to be spending our time on this day looking at issues, not just speculation. because it is like the super bowl. who's going to win the game? then cam newton, who is going to be cam newton at the end of the night. >> speaking of super bowls, we have a long pregame show, but i have to go to break. thank you, tom. this is a wrap this hour from manchester. i'll see you at 5:00 p.m. for "meet the press" daily. tamron hall is next. she'll be joined by donald trump.
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what a morning. voting is now under way here in new hampshire. i'm still live at my second home, aka, jd's tavern in manchester. we have been seeing long lines at many polling places all morning long, including the lar largest one in the state where officials are now predicting, brace yourself for it, record turnout. does that sound familiar to what we heard out of iowa? most polling places are open until 7:00 p.m. eastern time. polls indicate upwards of 40% of new hampshire voters make their decision at the last minute. we're talking the final steps before they walk into the voting booth. hillary clinton, chelsea clinton, marco rubio, john kasich, and jeb bush are among the candidates who have been out this morning greeting voters, getting in their final pleas. >> how does it feel? >> it feels good. i feel didn't leave much on the field, so to speak. i feel good about where we are.
>> senator, how are you feeling about tonight? >> i'm feeling great. everything feels great. it really does. >> meantime, the final tracking polls over the last few days show bernie sanders leading hillary clinton by anywhere from 7 to 26 points. what a range. and those polls also show donald trump is still the clear front-runner in the republican race leading anywhere from 11 to 21 points. good morning, everyone. live from jd's tavern in manchester, new hampshire, i'm tamron hall. brace yourselves. we will be talking live with donald trump when he joins us. by join us, i mean he's sitting here in a moment. meanwhile, right now, we have results in on the voting day. small results from three small towns in northern new hampshire. that traditionally vote at the stroke of midnight. basically, when most of you are asleep. those towns have a total of 65 voters. on the democratic side, bernie sanders beating hillary clinton 17 votes to 9. on the republican side, might we
hear this a lot today? a three-way tie. donald trump, ted cruz, and john kasich. each receiving nine votes. donald trump is looking to seal his first win in the 2016 race, urging thousands, somewhere around 4,000. he would say 5,000, at a rally last night in manchester to turp their support into votes. >> this is sort of our final love fest. all right. you have to get out and you have to vote no matter what. >> for senator cruz and the rest of the gop field, it appears that second place is up for grabs. one recent poll actually showing kasich, bush, cruz, and rubio all within three points of each other. but, the front page of new hamption's flagship newspaper "the union leader" looks at it this way, today is the poll that counts. with me now, here in manchester, is the gop front-runner, donald
trump. thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you very much. >> how do you feel this morning going in? i say that, it's interesting, right before iowa, you did an interview on the "today "show and you were what i would describe as low key. end of the night, you were in second place. i'm hearing the confidence is back in your campaign. and your confidence, which you have never suffered from a lack of, is up. >> i had confidence in iowa. i think we did great in iowa. we came in second. i had a lot of votes. strong second. a lot of those votes were missing because of what happened to ben, ben carson, who is a great guy. that shouldn't have happened. in new hampshire, i feel very good. we'll see what happens. it's politics. you know politics better than i do. it's politics. i have never done this before. we had a great turn in iowa, and i think we're going to have an even better turn tonight. we have to count up the votes. >> i have to talk about what happened last night at your rally, just across the street from where we're sitting. let's place this moment where you were rallying your crowd and now you have twitter and social
media abuzz. let's play it. >> she just said a terrible thing. you know what she said? she said i never expect to hear that from you again. she said he's a [ bleep ]. terrible. >> first sometime in my 30 years on television, you're talking about a p-word and it's not policy. >> it's true. we were having a lot of fun. i was repeating something somebody said from the audience. it was cute. the whole place gave a standing ovation. we didn't want to be too politically correct. not the worst thing, but i was repeating a woman. a woman kept shouting a word, so i repeated and people had a lot of fun with it. >> i guess i want to know what you see as presidential. there was a picture not long ago, barack obama in the oval office, his foot on the ottoman. some conservatives went crazy. how could he disrespect the white house? that's our house. how could he disrespect the presidency? many will say, what will donald trump do to the presidency if
she's willing to on stage say something like that, and other comments i could laundry list here. >> i saw the picture of barack obama. didn't bother me at all. to me, you want to be comfort. it's your house for a period of time. you want to be comfortable. i think that right now, i'm competing against a lot of people, tamron. there are a lot of people coming from all different sides. i have to be extremely high energy. we had 4,000 people, maybe 5,000 people there last night. we had an unbelievable crowd in the middle of tremendous storm. we had a great time. there was a woman shouting out something. we were having a lot of fun. when you get to be president or just before you get to be president, the altitude would change very much. i was a good student at the best school. and all of that. my uncle was a professor at m.i.t. for many years. i know exactly what i have to do. right now, we're in a very combative stage and we also want to have fun. the word political correct. everyone wants to be so totally politically correct. it's honestly a problem for our
runt rhee. we're doing things wetient be doing. >> what do you mean when you say politically correct? what does that mean, not saying that word in a public place? >> that word wasn't -- that was really sort of a repeat of a word that somebody else was saying. i think that the political correctness within our country now is too much. it's too much. >> give me example. what do you mean? >> anchor baby. we had a case where a man from cnn, a reporter, good guy from cnn said the anchor baby, where people come over, they have a baby in the united states. >> i know what it is. >> okay, but your audience right now. they come to the united states, they have a baby and we're supposed to take care of that person for 100 years. it doesn't work that way. believe me, it doesn't work that way. i used the term anchor baby. i said to the reporter, what would you use? he said, well, i think you should say the baby or child of an undocumented worker who came over to the united states. it was like nine words. and they wanted to be politically correct. it just doesn't work. we have a country that's in serious trouble. we have a country where people,
they're flowing across our borders. they're coming across our borders like mad. >> they're also being deported in larger numbers. the obama administration, by his own supporters, heavily criticisms for deporting more illegal immigrants than any other administration. >> it came out last week, we have 179,000 criminal illegal aliens. we have 179,000 people that are criminals, convicted of crimes, some major crimes. illegal aliens or illegal immigrants. they're in the country now. that's 179,000. that's biggerthy any city in new hampshire. they're roaming around their country and half we don't know where they are. we have to create borders. i want people to come into the country, but they have to come in legally. >> let me talk to you about your plan. earlier in the year, at the end of last year, you released your immigration plan. a five-point plan. we have not heard much more since then. let's go by the numbers. we talked a lot about building
the wall, the very big wall. how much will the wall cost? >> the wall is probably $8 billion, which is a tiny fraction of the money that we lose with mexico. we lose a tremendous amount of trade deficits. we have a trade deficit with mexico that is astronomical, much bigger than that. we will get, and i also it's also part of my plan, mexico is going to play for the wall. >> how did you come up with the dollar figure and who pays for it? >> multiplying the number of miles by a certain -- a very simple number. >> so you're doing construction numbers here. >> i'm very good at that. >> you're doing construction numbers, not real numbers. not numbers of what it would cost. you bring up for example the great wall of china that was built with slave labor. you don't have that in the united states. >> the great wall of china is 13,000 miles long. >> that's the example that there's proof you can build a great wall. >> how did you come to this? >> $8 billion. and what we're doing is we have 2,000 miles, right? 2,000 miles. it's long but not 13,000 miles
like they have in china. and of the 2,000, we don't need 2,000. we need 1,000 because we have natural barriers, et cetera, and i'm taking it price per square foot and mile, and it's a very simple calculation. i'm talking about precasts going up 35 to 40 feet in the air, that's high, a real wall. it will look good. as good as a wall is going to look. and it's going to do the trick. but we're going to have big, beautiful doors and people will come into the country. >> i don't think people care how beautiful the door is. it's not their home, but the money could come from, though, the money they bring into their home, meaning taxes. who pays for this? mexico has already said that it's a ridiculous idea. the former president of mexico yesterday said there's no way. this is a silly idea. who pays for this? >> silly for mexico because mexico, i'll tell you who will pay for it, mexico will pay for it. >> how do you get mexico to pay for it? >> you tell them to pay for it. we lose a fortune dealing in trade with mexico. we lose a lot of money. we give them money.
we give subsidies to mexico. in addition to that, they take our businesses. new hampshire is the number one example. this place was stripped with companies that went down to mexico. ford just opened a $2.5 billion plant in mexico. nabisco is moving their big plant from chicago to mexico. they just took a big factory from tennessee going into mexico. mexico makes a fortune. mexico is going to pay. i heard he said that we will not pay. guess what? the wall just got higher. >> how do you enforce this? you name new hampshire, but there are states like texas, for example, and you're in the hotel, restaurant business. you and i both know a great number of businesses have been behind the backs for many years hiring undocumented workers. some of those very businesses that you know, being a hotel owner, a restaurant owner, et cetera. >> and that's okay. they come in legally through visas. >> what are you going to do about the businesses in the united states who allow undocumented workers? >> you have all sorts of computerized programs where they wont be able to hire the people.
the people will go back of their own volition. they have to hire americans. if some some reason in some areas we have seasonable businesses where you can't get help, we have a visa program where you come in and have to go out. everything has to be documented and legal. otherwise, we don't have a country. if we don't have a wall, and not even a wall, if we don't have a border, we don't have a country. right now, people are walking in and out like it's nothing. like from here to the door. washingtoning in and out like nothing. we don't have a country. we right now are at a stage where you look at new hampshire with the heroin problem, people are walking across the border, loaded up with drugs. the amazing thing about new hampshi hampshire, it's beautiful. the biggest problem they have is heroin. heroin comes from the southern border. >> i'm getting this wrap for some reason. we were hoping you could stay longer. i want to talk going back to the comments you made at this rally last night. when you were in iowa, you were
holding your bibles two corinthians in all, the bible given to you by your mother. >> in europe and other places, they say two corinthians. >> we'll let you pass on it. you're traveling on to south carolina. there's some prediction you're looking at the general election and you'll look at voters demographically different fron iowa, from new hampshire. perhaps african-american, and bringing in voters you have offended outside of your core support here. so the question is, who is the real donald trump? is he the guy saying the p-word where he knows he can get away with it, or the guy thumping the bible because he needs that group? then will he be the guy later in a general election who becomes the new york liberal that ted cruz says you're really hiding under your suit? >> so, i'll tell you who the real donald trump is. i am the one that is going to make america great again. that's what it is. we have politicians.
they're all talk. they're no action. they're destroying our country. we are $19 trillion, we're going to owe $21 trillion in a short period of time because of the really stupid budget they just passed. the real donald trump is going to turn it around and make america great again. >> i hear your staff is going crazy that you have to go, but i would love to talk to you about the economic, the improved jobs numbers. >> thank you very much. >> come back tomorrow and tell your staff to calm down. thank you. coming up, how will voters -- since i won't get the chance again, i may go rogue. how will the voters in new hampshire react to donald trump? the people behind here, we'll talk to people in the polling places around new hampshire where a steady stream of voters are turning out. will they give donald trump a first-time victory for this new politician, and we're coming live out of jd's tavern in manchester, new hampshire. we'll be right back.
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we are back in manchester, new hampshire. a couple live polling places in this great state. this is a live look at manchester, where voters are casting their votes in the nation's first primary of 2016. new hampshire secretary of state has predicted record-breaking turnout today, projecting 550,000 votes will be cast across 200 cities and towns. and we just heard from the gop front-runner, donald trump, who's topped every poll going into today. and if predictions are right, he will win tonight. joining me now, ben greensburg, former general council to the republican committee. also an msnbc political analyst. also with me, so happy to see him around, nbc political news
analyst, director of "huffington post," howard fien. ben, i'll start with you. you heard a little bit of the donald trump conversation. trying to get donald trump to get specific is a very difficult thing, like throwing a snowball today in this low quality snow. you can't get it formed up there. he says his proposal to build a wall, $8 billion, $9 billion. do you believe that voters in new hampshire, the savvy voters, will embrace his message through the end tonight? even without specifics p. >> even without specifics, he represents an ideal, sort of a goal that people seem to be warming to here. that his message of leadership and his message of i'm going to get things done, just trust me, is i think resonating. >> chris christie, who is not moving in the polls after a lethal attack on marco rubio last saturday, makes the point, the easiest way to interview
donald trump is just say how. i mean, are we buying into a nation of ideas that cannot be implemented? this applies to bernie sanders. that's the hit that the clintons have tried to put on his back. a little different dynamic, but the overall view is both have these messages that thousands of people, but what about the follow-up? >> i think that's very well said. bill clinton accused bernie sanders of being in a hermetically sealed box. and in a way, donald trump is in his own very big, very beautiful box. you know, very expensive donald trump box. it's a huge box, but he's in that box. i thought you made a heroic effort to try to get some specifics out of him. but right now, i think ben is right. what is resonating on donald trump's crowds and i have been to a lot of his rallies, is we're losing our country. that's what he said to you. and i'm the guy, i'm the strong man, i'm the guy to bring it all back. don't worry how we're going to do it. i have succeeded in business.
i know how to succeed. i'll succeed at this, the paartf the deal, et cetera. on bernie's side, it's really we're going to get the government to pay for x, y, x, d, and e, down the line. he prefers to talk about the benefits he's going to give than the math mematics behind it. there's a lack of detail. and interesting, what used to be the middle of american politics, the practical, budget deficit oriented, detail oriented, middle of the american political spectrum seems to be missing. >> i think about mire family and texas, and the rural parts of the country, who certainly when you start talking about debt ceilings and this and that, they feel like it's a hocus-pocus. but a simple number, howard, like 4.9%, that's the unemployment rate. 150,000 jobs added. most of those jobs, many, full-time. here's the magic number, at least for my neck of the woods, as al roker would say, gas prices are, you know, $2.
and when republicans or when candidates say, yes, we need to improve the system, but they say it's broken, how do you fight the numbers that are clear? i get the feeling. i have family members out of work. to say it's completely broken, how do you -- >> look, the numbers say -- the numbers tell one story. what bernie sanders, donald trump phenomenon tells you is actually people feel something different. that people feel uneasy, even if the overall macro numbers are good. these two are appealing to that sort of sense of insecurity. >> this is ben carson in bedford, new hampshire, right now. at one of the polling locations there. he's all but fallen off the radar and off the polls. we're going to go to my colleague chris jansing in a second. to follow up what ben was saying, the feel of it, but donald trump's follow-up to the feel, and this is interesting
how south carolina plays out. his feel is we're too politically correct. once we move out of the more rural parts and important parts of our country, but that are not the most diverse, people will start to say, what do you mean by make it great again? what do you mean by we're too politically correct? >> he gets a lot of points from the people he's trying to reach. >> now. >> now, by claiming that he's the guy willing to state the problem in vivid terms. state the problems in vivid terms no matter what the consequence. part is he's running against the media establishment. he uses the media establishment suburbly, but he claims to be running against them. >> let me bring in chris jansing standing by at one of the polling locations. give us an up dade. you're in the suburb of bedford where ben carson is right now, i believe. >> he's the fourth candidate in here this morning. the busiest polling place in the state. they expect about 12,000 people to vote today out of the 15,510
that are registered. that just shows you the tremendous number of people who have been moving through here in the first four hours. they had almost 2,900 people. the parking lot has been packed. the speculation is because of the snow yesterday, a lot of folks are going to be waiting for the snow to be cleared before they come out after work, 5:00, they think this place is going to be overrun. it's been pretty busy already. we can't talk to a candidate inside the polling place here. that is not allowed. and they can't do any electioneering. when carly fiorina was here, a guy walked up and said i'm undecided, clearly wanting her to make her case. she simply said i'm not allowed to electioneer. he's coming in this direction. he's walking with the guy who is in charge of this polling place and keeps everything running. so it goes. let's just take a listen here. we can do that. >> you've only met a few
thousand. doing a great job out there. >> thank you. >> keep up the fight. >> absolutely. >> all right, i appreciate it. >> looking good. and your wife plays a fantastic violin. >> she's out there somewhere. >> i have a picture with you and i have a picture with her. >> thank you so much. good to see you guys. >> all right. this is a nerve-racking time for a lot of these candidates. jeb bush jr. told me today he expects this to be the longest day of his life. really tells you what the consequences are for, you know, how important all of this is. you saw the couple that he just walked up to. if i can, i'm going to speak to them very briefly. these are the sobrowskis. what have you been seeing today? >> the turnout is absolutely terrific. people in town are incredibly energized by this primary. >> i have been surprised by how
many people were undecided. when did you make your decision? >> we made our decision probably several months ago. >> oh, yes. >> some people are making it as they stand here. >> a few are standing here, do i want republican or democrat? >> they can't even decide between parties? let alone candidates. >> the ones that are undeclared have to decide today what they're going to be, what ballot they want. we have had several who have said, i just don't know. and then one woman said, have there been more republicans or democrats today? >> wow. >> but the turnout has been very, very energetic. and it's an awful lot of fun to do this, obviously. >> john and amanda, thanks so much for taking the time to talk to us. i think that absolutely shows you how incredibly volatile this electorate is today in new hampshire. >> all right, thank you very much, chris. and let me wrap up with howard and ben here.
we pespeak to the volatility, i really is, it seems, who is going to take the two and three spot in the gop. >> yeah, and it's all going to come down to the ground game. if you're inside a campaign right now, you're looking at your list. you're getting your volunteers out. you're finding all of a sudden some of your key precinct workers have got child care emergencies and aren't there. how do you cover that precinct? so what actually is happening on a really granular level on the ground is going to have an impact in the closer race. >> howard, what's the headline for you right now? we're seeing merrimack high school, long line. >> right this minute, the headline since we don't know the results is the turnout. the fact that, and i have to give some credit to bernie sanders and donald trump. they have stirred the pot big time. and they have expanded the electorate. and whether you like them or loathe them for whatever particular reason you have, that's a good thing. and i know a lot of international press that's here covering this, iowa and now new hampshi
hampshire, they're amazed and impressed and i must say i'm proud that that many people are taking part. we're talking about two thirds or more of the adults of new hampshire are going to vote today. amazing. >> i don't like to look back in the rear view mirror aunch, but look at iowa. back to your loathe or like example, ted cruz. record number. donald trump got second place. he still had a record number. so the turnout is fueled by the nonestablishment. >> tamron, what's interesting about that is everybody is saying how cynical and turned off the american people are, how the polls show we're going in the wrong direction, not the right track. the historically bad numbers. american people seem ready to respond to that by taking part in this election this year, which i think is a very positive sign. >> it will be really interesting. these are state-wide races in iowa, new hampshire, south carolina, nevada. march 1st is where the engagement of an organization will really make a difference when you have 12 states voting. >> all right, thank you both. greatly appreciate you joining
me. coming up, if the polls from new hampshire are correct and how many times can we say if, voters could be set to deliver a setback for hillary clinton as her campaign is reportedly considering a shake-up. and our live coverage from new hampshire, manchester specifically, continues, but we have reporters stationed across this state. and we'll be checking in with all of them. we'll be right back. the future belongs to the fast. and to help you accelerate, we've created a new company... one totally focused on what's next for your business. the true partnership where people,technology and ideas push everyone forward. accelerating innovation. accelerating transformation. accelerating next. hewlett packard enterprise. i tabut with my back paines, i couldn't sleep and get up in time.
but zzzquil is different have pain medicine because why would you take a pain medicine when all you want is good sleep? zzzquil: a non-habit forming sleep-aid that's not for pain, just for sleep. i'm back now with a look at manchester, new hampshire, as voters cast their ballots in the nation's first presidential primary. it is primary day, in case you didn't hear me say that the two times before. they're expecting a record turnout here in the granite state. i'm hanging with my best friends at jd's tavern. the kind of friends who eat their burgers and give you nothing. i kid because i love.
all right, let's go to one of our colleagues, msnbc's jacob soboroff. he joins us live from the college town of durham, new hampshire. that was the site of our big debate last week. i was stationed on campus talking to college students. your focus on the youth vote and the headline for the debate really was a number of female voters who kind of took issue with the idea they should vote for hillary clinton because of gender. >> yeah, so tamron, where we are right now is not exactly where the debate was. we're at the university. we're aboard a university sponsored shuttle bus where people are getting on and off the bus and taken over to the high school where people are, and they're counting the students on the bus right now, to go vote. i'm sitting here with grace, right? >> yes. >> grace, have you ever voted before? >> no, this is my first time. >> have you decided who you're going to vote for? >> bernie sanders. >> tamron hall was saying it's interesting a lot of young women are choosing bernie sanders over
hillary clinton. what went into your decision? >> i like his ideas of being a democratic socialist. obviously, the free college aspect is awesome. >> and are people that you're friends with sort of going for bernie as well? >> yeah. >> tamron, we're about to going wheels up. the bus driver has been shuttling people all day long. you heard it from grace. those are the reasons she chose bernie sanders over hillary clinton. >> expecting a record turnout. we'll see if many of the people around her age show up as well. it seems new hampshire is not letting anything stand in the way of getting to the polls today. thank you. now to what the democratic candidates are doing. hillary clinton is making the rounds at polling places throughout the state as she addresses rumors of a shake-up on her team and strategy. this as bernie sanders may have a win coming out later this evening, but he has one that came in the vote admit nite. he's holding on to his lead. clinton in new hampshire, the
latest cnn/wmur showing sanders three points since saturday, 61% to 35%. kristen welker joins me now. let's talk about the in-ground game, and really the tone of the clintons. late last night, leading into where they are this morning. >> well, secretary clinton, former president bill clinton and daughter chelsea had a big rally. they were fired up and their supporters were fired up. they're very excited at this field office in nashua. they're getting ready to go out to pound the pavement, knock on doors. the reality is they're also lowering expectations. senator sanders, as you pointed out, does have the double-digit lead. what clinton campaign officials tell me, they're hoping they can narrow that gap to a single digit lead. i caught up with secretary clinton earlier today at her first polling location stop. i asked her if a single digit loss would actually be a win.
take a look at the exchange. >> is a single-digit loss a win? >> i'm just looking for a great election day. as many people who can turn out, express their opinions. be part of this process. and for me, that's a big reason why it's so important. >> now, tamron, i want to give you a look at some of the activity here. volunteers coming, getting their orders. they're about to go out, knock on some doors, make the final push for clinton supporters to pull that lever here in new hampshire for secretary clinton. the clinton campaign looking beyond new hampshire, though, to some of those super tuesday states. southern states, and also the caucus states that were so critical to president obama's victory in 2008. they're also trying to rally their base, african-american supporters and women supporters, surprisingly, secretary clinton is trailing here in new hampshire among women. it's caused the campaign to take
a hard look at what changes may might need to make in terms of tone and strategy. of course, there were those reports yesterday that there's going to be a big campaign shake-up. secretary clinton denied that yesterday in an interview with rachel maddow. at the same time, she said it is time to look at what's working and what's not working because of course they are entering a new phase of the campaign. one more point i'll make. i have been talking to her supporters here, her volunteers, and they're all remembering back to 2008. that's of course when she did come back here in new hampshire against barack obama. one supporter told me they think she's going to be a comeback kid again. we have to wait and see if that happens. >> thank you very much, kristen. coming up, more than 40% of new hampshire's voters are independent, and undeclared. actually, undeclared. 44%. we'll check with voters casting their ballots this morning and even dig into the distinction of undeclared versus independent. something we learned on the ground while visiting this amazing state. our special live coverage from
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live pictures, actually, i don't think i have ever seen the sixth box before. that's how many cameras we have or a glimpse of the ones stationed at different polling places around new hampshire. we're already getting early indications that just 11:41 eastern time, that huge turnout at some of the more popular locations. so this could be an exciting day by the numbers. and it certainly could be a day that goes late into the night. if you look at the polling coming in, and the new polls show a three-way tie potentially for second place. the 2016 presidential candidates making their closing arguments to voters here in new hampshire, at final rallies yesterday. those voters notorious for making their decision late. last minute. we have heard that ring true today as our reporters have been
on the ground. you have people getting out of their car, walking steps up to the polling location and still saying they have their top three they're considering. as for voter turnout, state officials are predicting a record. tony dokoupil joins us from new hampshire's largest polling place in the town of merrimack. i saw your report this morning and it stopped me in my tracks. you showed where people were arriving at the location. they had about 10, 20 steps, and they use each of the steps to narrow down in some cases their top three that they have listed. >> that's right, tamron. people are walking and thinking at the same time. and the thinking has to stop right here at these tables. there's a long row in the gym, and these are the tables where voters have to make a decision. they have to pick a ballot. republican ballot or democratic ballot. then they can walk into a voting booth. i want to bring in a special guest. lynn christiansen with us. she's the town moderator for merrimack. she runs the whole show. biggest polling station in the
state. she's going to show us the aisles here. when people make their decision, they get their ballot. republican or democrat. they come down this aisle. go into one of these booths. and make their final decision. how has that turned out? >> it's been very, very light. >> really? >> yes. >> secretary of state is here. he says he thinks it will be a record. not seeing that? >> i'm not seeing it yet. that's what i was expecting. if you asked me yesterday, i would have said we would have a record turnout. i have not seen it yet this morning. >> how long did it take to plan all this? >> we're tweaking it all year long. >> so tamron, you saw photos come out of the booths. secret ballot, of course. they mark their ballots and then they finish at the end here. there are black boxes where depending on the letter of your last name, you slip your ballot -- >> no, if you're a democrat or a republican. >> democrats here, republicans here. slip the ballot in. it counts it right away, right? >> it's a scanner so it's counting it right away. >> how soon before preliminary
results come in? >> at the end of the night, when the last person has voted, i will put the key in, push the button and it will spew out a take about this long with the 30 republicans and 28 democrats on the ballot and i'll know how many and add up the four votes. >> that's a pivotal moment because there are 14,000 people expected to come through here today. that's a big chunk of the republican vote. thank you, lynn. that's how it's made here. back to you, tamron, in manchester. >> all right. exciting night. i think you're going to have a lot of the big headlines from that location from the looks of things. coming up, moments ago, donald trump put a price tag on the wall he plans to build. the one that would line the u.s. border with mexico, when he spoke to me on the one-on-one interview. we'll play more of that. has a lot of you talking already on social media. we'll be right back.
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trump? is he the guy saying the p-word where he knows he can get away with it at this raucous rally or the guy thumping the bible because he needs that group? then will he be the guy later in the general election who becomes the new york liberal that ted cruz says you are really hiding under your suit? >> so i'll tell you who the real donald trump is. i am the one that is going to make america great again. that's what it is. we have politicians that are all talk, no action. they're destroying our country. we are $19 trillion, we're going to owe $21 trillion in a very short period of time because of the really stupid budget they just passed. the real donald trump is going to turn it around and make america great again. >> that was donald trump just a short time ago. sat down right here with me in jd's for an extensive interview talking about who he is and why
he thinks he'll have a good showing in the first of the national primary. joining me now, mark murray. so mark, actually, it was trump's team who wrapped up that interview. we wanted him to stay longer because i do want, and i think the voters who are excited about him, those who include many of them behind us, the questions now are how are you going to do some of these things? what are you going to do? he told us today for the first time that the wall, he estimates, would be around $9 billion. he's doing that just by construction costs. basically, his formula is if i want to build a building now in new york, i'm doing the square footage, but there's much more that has to come with that, including how do you deport all these people. >> the scrutiny, donald trump got a significant amount of this when he first got in the contest, particularly after the controversial remarks on mexicans and john mccain. he got a lot from all of us in the press. then all of a sudden, everyone said the guy must be bullet-proof.
if he wins tonight, as many expect, if he wins tonight, i think you'll end up seeing a new round of scrutiny happen. here's the guy on the stage winning in new hampshire. you'll see probably more critical pieces from the other big development, i think you'll see the other campaign go after him. particularly when a campaign said, i'm holding a press conference to respond with what donald trump and them are saying, sometimes has a bigger impact than you would expect. >> we are looking at right now potentially a three-way tie at that debate. donald trump went calm. no one went of him. chris christie, it was the battle of the governors in a lot of ways and i was thinking back to my roots as a child with a big bully as donald trump is described, my mom said, you know, you get in there, even if you lose, people know you can
take a punch. they're not doing that. they're avoiding him and going after each other. does that change after tonight? >> it changes partially. probably march 2nd or so with a smaller field. we saw in the msnbc debate, juan on one race is different. president obama said something interesting in his interview with glenn of politico a few months ago. what matters more is how you end up doing in the long run. anyone can win iowa or new hampshire, but can you be built to last another four or five months? that's a big challenge for donald trump. >> and going back to your point about rachel monitoring the one on one. any of those people right now, it doesn't -- it looks like he slays them, at least rhetorical rhetorically. >> we have to find out who that
will be. ted cruz got his ticket punched on trump and chris christie, john kasich, that will be fascinating to watch. >> wait to see what happens. it's pretty exciting. coming up, we'll check in on the voting that's under way throughout new hampshire right now. the first. let's say it together. the first primary election of 2016. we'll be right back. in new york state, we believe tomorrow starts today. all across the state the economy is growing, with creative new business incentives, and the lowest taxes in decades, attracting the talent and companies of tomorrow. like in the hudson valley, with world class biotech. and on long island, where great universities are creating next generation technologies. let us help grow your company's tomorrow, today at business.ny.gov our cosmetics line was a hit.
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a campaign shake-up fueled by unhappiness from bill clinton. where is this coming from? >> hard to know. people like to speculate and there's always people friends of friends of friends who like to get quoted, but as i said to brian williams, if it were true, i would be on the beach. >> what is success here out of new hampshire. >> it's turning out our vote. make sure we do our job to get people out and have a good turnout number. >> hope to have you back on here tomorrow. karen finney, senior spokesperson. thank you for running over here in your sneakers. live from new hampshire, i'll be stationed at john kasich's campaign. see the night he's got in store. live coverage beginning at 6:00 eastern time. andrea mitchell is up next. dhaung for joining us. it takes a lot of work... to run this business. i'm on the move all day long... and sometimes,thank yo. i just don't eat the way i should. so i drink boost to get the nutrition that i'm missing. boost complete nutritional drink has 26 essential vitamins and minerals,
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it's judgment day. the candidates make a final push as voters finally have their say. >> i'm just looking for a great election day. we're going to finish strong here headed to south carolina. >> are you trying to be the comeback kid? >> call me whatever you want to call me. >> i'm excited about it. >> out of bounds. donald trump repeats a vulgarity about ted cruz at election eve rally, testing civil discourse within the campaign. >> i never expected to hear that from you again. she said he's a [ bleep ]. >> what happened when the woman shouted a word out and you went with it and sort of -- >> we were all just having fun and all i was doing was repeating because people couldn't hear it. i was doing a favor. >> power couples, the role they
play. >> do you think he's been unfair to her? >> up accurate. >> your reaction to bill clinton? >> disappointing and yet, at the same time, it's politics 101. >> and good day, everyone. i'm andrea mitchell in new hampshire where election day is finally here. after all the polls, the pund punditry and occasional profanity, wondering whether bernie sanders and donald trump can maintain their big leads. our team is in place for the latest across the state. nbc's kristen welker, katy tur, gabe gutierrez and first, you in nashua, with hillary clinton. trying to narrow the gap and spin it if it's in single digits as a comeback kid.
>> reporter: it's amazing. she's been trailing by double digits. they don't want it to be a huge loss. as you rightfully point out, they're hoping the loss will be in the single digits. let's give you a sense of what's happening here. i am in a field office where they are rallying her supporters to go out. let me just let the camera pan over to some of the volunteers who have come out. these are the folks who are about to hit the pavements, encourage people to get out and vote for secretary clinton. this is really her final pitch to voters. she has done all of the campaign stops. she's met all the people she can here. it's now up to her volunteers and the voters to determine what happens next. i can tell you. >> kristen, i just want you to
see what happened. you were up at 6:45 to greet pollers at a polling site. let's see what happened there. >> i like the way that the people of new hampshire take it so seriously. they focus in on the issues. and they keep coming back, don't they? >> they keep coming back. >> is saa single digit a loss? >> i want people to be part of this process and for me, that's a big reason why it's so important. >> and so, kristen, there she is saying she's going to do it until the last vote is counted but it is an uphill climb. >> reporter: it is. and it's all about the expectations game, andrea. you and i have been reporting for quite some time, andrea, they have been trying to lower expectations here in new hampshire. at the same time, they're looking beyond new hampshire.
looking to states like south carolina, nevada. they have been rallying her african-american base and looking at all of those caucus states that were so critical to then senator barack obama winning back in 2008 and then, of course, this big question mark. why is she having trouble connecting with younger voters and trailing among female voters in new hampshire? these are some of the questions and of course, there were reports that her campaign will have a big shake-up of its staff. she denied that, but at the same time said yes, we're entering a new phase of the campaign and take a hard look at what's working and what's not working. i can tell you, there's a lot of reminiscing about 2008 and that's when she did come back here against barack obama. one supporter telling me she's going to be a comeback kid again tonight. andrea? >> kristen welker, thank you so much. and of course, the republican fight is all over the place with donald trump still with a huge
lead with a lot of other hopefuls behind katy tur onset. what is it about what happened last night? i mean, here he had this huge rally in the verizon center across the street from here and then really tested the limits. >> we've been saying that for six months, calling john mccain not a war hero and john kerry a bunch of things i wouldn't repeat on television. this is not unusual. it's not new for donald trump. but what was really interesting about yesterday is it came out a different side of him. we saw him at a town hall in londonderry earlier talking to voters directly answering questions. he really shined in that setting. he was someone who was able to connect intimately with one on one with people who he's trying to get out and vote for him today. by the end of the day, we saw him at a giant rally in the verizon center.
6500 people we're told showed up to this place. it was a blizzard, snowing. the roads not great, and he was clearly cle lly feeding off tha. one woman allegedly screamed something, i didn't hear her so i only can imagine this is exactly what she screamed. and i heard donald trump say it. he was repeating what a woman said and using a vulgarity to describe ted cruz and his position on waterboarding, saying he's not strong on it. donald trump said he would bring back water boarding and worse. and so we saw him repeat the vulgarity and get massive applause and cheers from the crowd. big reaction. basically, like a retweet. >> the thing is, it's the crowd reaction he plays off of. it's all a performance. >> it is all a performance. and the question we find out tonight and we found out a
little bit in iowa, but here, his personality plays much better, whether they come out to see the show or coming out because they want to support donald trump and his policies. we'll find out that in a few hours. there's a lot of folks who say absolutely he's going to take this state in the landslide. but one on one, i'm not so sure. >> the unpredictability is legendary of new hampshire voters. gabe gutierrez is covering marco rubio. we want to show a bit of his rally with a rhetorical flow and repeating exactly what got him into trouble. repeating set pieces. let's watch. >> we are taking our message to families that are struggling to raise their children in the 21st century because you saw, we are raising our four children in the 21st century and we know how hard it is to instill values in our kids instead of the values they try to ram down our
throats. it's harder than ever in instill they teach in our homes and church instead of the rallies they try to ram down our throats. >> it's that, you know, the charge that chris christie that he's robotic. >> reporter: yeah, and that is the knock on marco rubio. it's seen he had trouble coming back with the next point and reverted back to the talking point. the question is what will happen with the voters? will the voters see that as a flaw in this can as chris christie and his opponents have been saying or treat it as, look, all politicians are scripted, and this politician really isn't any different, but we do think he is qualified to take on the democrats later on this year. i can tell you, marco rubio was supposed to come to this location and meet with some of the voters here. his campaign within the past hour or so just called appear audible and moved to another location. no reason for that, but has
taken some limited questions to some of the earlier stops this morning and all he'll say is he's trying to keep an optimistic attitude. today will be historic and trying to play down this narrative as he calls it from the national media that this flub in the debate will really cost him. he said voters will not care but the question is, how much did that debate really affect his candidacy and will the other governors in the race really benefit from that tonight? of course, we've been hearing that from chris christie and jeb bush and talk that john kasich might also surge but what happens when the campaign goes to south carolina? will marco rubio go in there in this pack of governors, some like john kasich do not have the ground game that say, jeb bush has? the bottom line is this republican race for second place and way in the lead but the race for second place is up for grabs
because there hasn't been any reliable polling since that debate on saturday. we'll have to wait and see, andrea? >> kelly o'donnell with chris christie. let's play a little bit of that, kelly. >> we need to beat hillary clinton and we need someone ready to do that. i'm ready to do that. >> what does that mean to you and do you believe the polling reflects what you're seeing an feeling? >> itwe've seen a real surge sie saturday night. we expect to go. we expect to do very well. >> so chris christie seems energized. kasich i thought this morning feels he's got legs here, all this because marco rubio faltering in that debate and jeb bush seems hugely optimistic. you've covered them all, kelly. you can see some life left in
these governors. >> reporter: absolutely, andrea. we're at a place where chris christie just had a circle around the bar. we missed it by this much. he was shaking hands, talking to folks. he said he's got three events in south carolina tomorrow. he believes the race will be very bunched up and should he perform well, as he would like to see, a top aide said we have something to sell to donors to have the funds to keep going forward. but the governors have had a resurgence here. i spent time with chris christie, jeb bush, and feel the argument of executive experience, being tested, made decisions is something they can persuade new hampshire voters to consider. >> kelly o'donnell, thank you very much. bernie sanders is expected to win big today in new hampshire but still trails by double
digits nationally. according to the nbc news weekly tracking poll. as he fights, hi key advisor has been his wife jane. i spoke to jane sanders today right here in manchester. mrs. sanders, thank you so much for coming. it's election day finally. what are your expectations? >> well, my hope is that we'll get a lot of people out to vote. the most important thing is that the electorate is large. for anything, for our democracy and we hope that we win at least by one vote. >> now, this is close to home. but depending on what happens here, you're way ahead going in. you now go nevada, wisconsin for the debate, nevada for a caucus. south carolina. the whole map opens up. how do you handle that? it's a huge organizational
challenge. >> yes, but we've got a good organization. we've got a plan for the next ten days anyway and that's about as far ahead as we can look, as i can look. >> your husband said in one of the forums is you are a whole lot smarter than he is. >> not true. not true. definitely not true. but i like that he thinks that. >> but you would have a desk in the west wing if he were so lucky to get the nomination, be elected. what role do you see for yourself? >> i think the role i've always played. just a sounding board, a different perspective. we look at the world a little bit differently. i look at it through the human scale and he looks at it through the societal scale. we'll just continue to talk and work and i hope i'll be able to do something if we have that honor to be able to help children and families in particular. >> interestingly, you and your husband have been partners on policy, on politics, in a way,
reminiscent of bill and hillary clinton back in 1992 and the role she took. did she break some ground as a first lady? >> oh, of course. >> it would have real partners. >> i think eleanor roosevelt as well. each in their own way. i think i'm not, it's not two for one in this one. bernie would be the president and i would be hopefully as supportive in whatever way he thinks is necessary, and i will be a voice, i think, what i would be using that pulpit for is to make the quality of life for children and families to be the best in the world. >> bill clinton has been much more outspoken in the last couple of days and very critical of your husband and of your campaign and saying that it has been sexist, well, as you know,
hillary clinton talked about the smear. what's your reaction to bill clinton and the attacks in the last coupling of dayinle of day? >> i'm surprised. disappointed. to call this a negative campaign is as any observer would allow, is just not accurate. we've been running a very, very positive campaign. so it's disappointing, and yet at the same time, it's politics 101. i want to run a negative campaign, so i'm going to accuse my opponent of running a negative campaign. i would hope the media and all the candidates would raise the level up a bit. that's what the voters expect. that's what they deserve. and i think we should be talking about the issues that affect their lives,er n not trying to down the other person.
one is going to be the president of the united states and i think in the democratic process, especially, we should not be tearing each other down. >> donald trump today when asked what word would come to mind about hillary clinton on "morning joe," said evil. do you think that hillary clinton -- >> no, absolutely not. we've known bill and hillary for years, and, you know, we're not friends, but colleagues. that has no place in politics today. i don't think. bernie doesn't think. we think that the most thing we can do is to lead by example. to treat others as we would have them treat us, and hope that it is reciprocal. not always so, but we're not going to play that game. >> how surprised are you that your husband has become a pop culture figure? snl, larry david impersonation
and all of these kids following him? he's the pied piper of the college age? >> we like that it's not a cult of personality. they're following him because of the issues he's talking about. they realize it's ludicrous people are having to pay so much and have so much debt to be able to get an education. seniors can't live in dignity and security. we need to address real issues in this country. climate change. so what is nice is that it's not just, oh, bernie's wonderful. it's, you're speaking to my heart, is what somebody said last night at the concert. and it's just wonderful. they're engaged. they're involved. they're hopeful about the future. i think that's wonderful that that is the case. >> jane sanders, good luck on the trail.
thank you very much. and coming up, the undecideds. many still making up their minds when the curtain closes, making new hampshire impossible to predict. tom brokaw is back with us next. you're watching a special edition of "andrea mitchell reports" in manchester, minnesota, on msnbc. the place for politics. you've finally earned enough reward miles on your airline credit card. now you just book a seat, right? not quite. sometimes those seats are out of reach, costing an outrageous number of miles. it's time to switch... to the capital one venture card. with venture, you'll earn unlimited double miles on every purchase, every day. and when you're ready to travel,
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reagan in iowa. >> and bush got his turn in '88, defeating an angry bob dole who had defeat him in iowa. >> can you defend that? >> go back to your cave. >> senator dole, anything you'd like to say to the vice president? >> yeah, stop lying about my record. >> bill clinton lost amid of womanizing, gave just enough hope. >> new hampshire tonight has made bill clinton the comeback kid. >> pat dukanaan. the gop establishment in new hampshire but faded later. in 2000, another bush, 43, burned with confidence and then left the state a 16 point loser
to senator john mccain, a maverick, even called the straight talk express, couldn't keep his momentum going. >> congratulations. >> eight years ago, barack obama rolled into new hampshire after beating hillary clinton in iowa. >> i don't think i'm that bad. >> you're likable enough. >> senator clinton written off. weeping at her place in the race. >> we all know how that ended. hillary clinton pulled off a win in new hampshire, a surprise upset but it wasn't enough to send her to the white house. tom brokaw joins me now. it's so great to be here with you. i mean, i recall in '88 just standing off set and you saying to bob dole, you want to say anything to the vice president and you just saw that, stop lying about my record. >> all the air was sucked out. it was like a gunshot went off
in the room. bob was not happy. he had a tense relationship with george bush, different types of backgrounds and wouldn't talk to me for three or four years. obviously i've helped him and he's had a wonderful life. 92 years old, still on the hunt. trying to raise money for the eisenhower memorial, but new hampshire had a piece of drama one kind or another. we'll find out over the next 12 hours what it's gieng to oing ts year. >> i live by your mantra. let the voters have their say. in particular, in this state among all the primary states, this is the most unpredictable, because it's such retail politics, people take it so seriously. they're used to getting pitches, personally, from all the candidates and then they really take up a long time to make up their mind. >> and they take it seriously. as american citizens as well.
they cherish their place as their first in the nation primary. with good reason, that we do come back because of all the things you just mentioned. it is new england, of all. this is where america began. the question is, downstream, would be better off not stretching the whole process over iowa, new hampshire, south carolina, consolidatinconsolida been argue, saying south carolina, new hampshire, and iowa in the same weekend. you've got the midwest, the northeast, and the south together. but new hampshire won't let go and with good reason. >> it's interesting that hillary clinton got an ad in south carolina, looking forward as is bernie sanders to expanding their reach to the african-american community. it's true they are mostly white and representative of the country. >> not everyone who wins here goes on to win when they get to the presidency. obviously, it worked well for
president obama. he was able to lose here and then go on to win in other areas, but there have been a number of cases like hillary did but could not get the nomination of her party. ronald reagan, people may forget came in here and his campaign was in trouble. he lost in iowa, practically his home state and then the famous, i paid for this microphone and then went on. i always tell everyone, let the new hampshire voters vote. and then let's respond to that. >> it's great to be here with you. thank you so much. the history, just the whole process of democracy. in new hampshire. it's what we love. >> it's a pleasure. thank you. >> thank you. and stay with us all day here on msnbc. we'll have the first glimpse of what voters are saying at 5:00 p.m., 5:00 eastern. in possession as we catch up with college students heading to vote. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports" only here on msnbc. the microsoft cloud allows us to
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and we're back with a special edition of "andrea mitchell reports" live from manchester, new hampshire. nbc's jacob soboroff has been at the polls with eager students. f still on the bus. what are they telling you? all sanders supporters, divided? any voting for republicans? >> there >>. >> reporter: there's a lot of bernie sanders supporters. i haven't talked to any of my new friends yet. they're on their way over. scott, kayla, nick, first time voting? >> yeah. >> reporter: and you know who you'll vote for? >> sanders. >> reporter: how come? >> he seems like the most honest of them. he's had a solid track record of sticking to his beliefs. >> reporter: and how about you? >> also bernie sanders, yes.
>> reporter: what goes in your decision? >> his social decisions, his opinion on gay marriage, abortion, things like that. >> reporter: first time voting? >> yes. >> reporter: excited? >> a little bit. >> reporter: how about you? >> john kasich. >> reporter: wow, how come? >> i like his economic policies. >> reporter: did the new york times endorsement play into it? >> i was supporting him before. >> reporter: john kasich here too. this is interesting. kasich could be the dark horse here. you think he's got a shot? >> i think he does. some polls have him in second or third, so. >> you heard it from the bus. on your way. voting shortly. i was just inside the polling place. 1500 people already voted at this location. a couple of years ago between three and five thousand people
have voted so early voting here at the university of new hampshire. >> that was great. because in fact, i ran into john kasich at breakfast. he's really pumped. this could be a sleeper where john kasich, jeb bush start movg up and make a play for second. he's been there lopger than anyone else. he's got the support of john sununu and republican leaders in the state and his message is relentless relentlessly optimistic and fiscally conservative. we'll see whether it works this year as well. on the bus. and coming up, the comeback kid. the clintons have a long history of success in new hampshire. can they do it again? you're watching a special edition of "andrea mitchell reports." it's election day. on msnbc.
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remotes you are back. the x1 voice remote is here. x1 customers get your voice remote by visiting xfinty.com/voiceremote. i come tonight with a very full heart. i want especially to thank new hampshire over the last week, i listened to you. and in the process, i found my own voice. >> hillary clinton after her 2008 surprise win in new hampshire over barack obama. and tougher to narrow the gap given his projected lead. i'm joined by new hampshire senator jeanne shaheen. >> great to be here. all political reporters, junkies
that we are, love new hampshire. the democracy, the progress, the process, i should say, as tom brokaw and i were just discussing. this has been interesting to see the role of the spouses. jane sanders, no closer advisor than bill clinton. he has had a rocky time finding his voice and his proper role. this is what he had to say last night in hudson, new hampshire. >> tonight, my job is to introduce hillary. sometimes on a stage like this, i wish we weren't married, then i could say what i really think. and i don't mean that in a negative way. >> i think what he means is that there's so many con transtraint what he can say, and feisty, and take on her opponents. try to reel them in and pull
them back. does that work or not work with new hampshire voters, the attacks that have come from bill clinton the last few days? >> i think bill clinton has tried to bring out facts about bernie sanders that have not been reported. i think that's important to do. i appreciate the challenge because i know my family, my husband is always more concerned about the attacks against me than i am. so i think when you're the candidate as hillary is, you stay focused on what you want to say to voters, and that's what she's been doing ahead in new hampshire. at times, know it's an uphill climb and go on to south carolina, and say, no. new hampshire is too important. i want to continue to make the case to voters and let them know how important i think new hampshire is. >> i can only imagine. i haven't had the opportunity to get bill clinton's react to this, but here's what happened
on "morning joe" when mika was playing a word association game with donald trump. please watch. >> hillary clinton. >> she went to your wedding. >> she did. in a certain way, evil. in a certain way, evil. >> whoa. >> what do you think about that? >> i think donald trump is outrageous. his playing on people's fears and prejudices has no room in a race for president of the united states and unfortunate that the kind of disrespect that he has given to women, to people of other faiths, to muslim, to immigrants, to anybody who disagrees with him in this race is given so much play on air because it represents the worst in people. >> why do you think hillary
clinton has had so much difficulty communicating or connecting with younger women, which is clearly showing up? it showed up in the entrance polls in iowa and certainly showing up here in new hampshire? >> i would say to younger women, and by the way, i have never heard anybody ask young men if they're supporting bernie if he's a man, as young women, so there's a gender disparity there. >> but that's been her base and one of the big gaps she's needed to make up. >> what i would say to young women, don't make your decision based on hillary clinton because she's a woman. you should make it based on who's the most experienced, the best qualified, has the best solutions for the challenges that we face in this country and i think if you put your resume next to bernie sanders' resume, there's no comparison in terms of accomplishment, in terms of a vision for this country and in terms of what's actually going to get done.
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voting for a democrat. the reason they said they're shopping for a republican candidate and not thinking about voting here in new hampshire on the democratic side is because they do not believe that you are honest. that have issues with your trustworthiness, how do you make the case to women in particular for whom that's the objection? that's why they can't pull the lever for you? >> you know, obviously, this is not anything i want to hear because i find it so absolutely contrary to who i am. when you think back, i emerged back on the national scene in 1992 and been under relentless attack ever since. read behavioral science, psychology. even when all the attacks prove to be unfounded, untrue, it leaves a residue. >> joining me, ed and chris, thank you both. we've seen this a couple of
times, she's asked this question, it's painful. and she has to deal with it. >> yes, and she has been dealing with it for nine months now. i mean, there were the same sentiment was present when she entered the race in april where at that point, her numbers were sky high, but if you look at the underside in the polls, many people said at the same time they found her qualified and competent and would consider voting for her. they also had a trust deficit with her. that's been there throughout and at this point, she doesn't have a much different answer than she did at the start. >> and chris , it's been the same. >> yes, she had a deficit there. more people thought she was not honest and trustworthy than thought she was. that said, i do think the way the e-mail story played out, the
release of the e-mails every month and the classified information, was it marked classified at the time? all this back and forth, i don't think the average person follows that closely but i do think they get a sense of, there's something sort of odd here and it goes to those worries, the wonders, the questions they had about her being honest and trustworthy when the race started. the answer of people habituated to think i'm not honest and trustworthy even though it's been proven wrong, i'm not sure 100% the case. i think the way this campaign played out has accentuated it that are negative for her. >> and of course, if new hampshire does turn out big for bernie sanders and gives some momentum and goes to nevada, the minnesota caucus down the road, south carolina he has a tougher climb, it's hard to think of this as a national race right now but our new survey monkey
online poll shows him with an enormous lead nationally. rather, hillary clinton with an enormous lead. she has a lot of assets going in. >> absolutely. she has, she still remains the national front-runner and she has an enormous head start on bernie sanders at the state organization level. he's been catching up in a lot of places. the caucus states coming up where he's expected to do well and may well win in minnesota, for example. but trails her in lining up delegates, lining up high level support, governors, senators, and so forth. super delegates. he's far ahead. >> and in election day with you and chris, thank you both so much. and turning to the republicans, the underdog john kasich spent more time in new hampshire than any other of the republican
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so calm. and i can't really explain it. we've done everything we need to do it. i've labored in total obscurity for months. but i felt we would walk out of the woods in the bright light. if you win in dixville notch. >> a relaxed john kasich on one of the biggest days of his presidential primary process and political career. john sununu joining me now. you've been with john kasich from the beginning, the ohio governor who's got a number of things to recommend himself to new hampshire voters. fiscal, conservative. and relentless optimism.
unlike some of his others. >> it's a shame that optimistic vision of what we can do to balance the budget and cut taxes and transform our economy isn't more widely heard among republicans. back in the days of ronald reagan, it was conservative principles that create economic growth and john kasich has driven that message from day one. it's not fashion with him. he believes that conservatism can do for the country. >> what's the future of the republican party if the polls come with the enormous lead and then heads south with built-in advantages, what is it to say about the party? just as bernie sanders is transforming the democratic party? >> i can't sit here and give you a detailed vision of the republican party but i can tell
you he will underperform tonight. and doesn't have organization in other states, and he's got brand and name idea and celebrity and frankly, that's not what a campaign should be about and as you well know, you probably talked far more about polls than i do, there is a huge number of people in the republican party, let alone people nationally that just aren't going to vote for it. so i think over time, he's doing to do more and more poorly as this process completes. >> but almost perversely because marco rubio had a bad debate. he's no incentive for the governors in the so-called establishment lane to drop out. >> well, i don't know about that. >> because if you added them all up, they could compete with donald trump. >> jeb bush after spending $100 million or whatever it is, walks away with 2% or 3%, 4% in iowa and having finished in new
hampshire lower than when he started. i think that's a pretty strong indictment. i don't know what the returns are going to be, but the suggestion that candidates that finish at 5%, 6%, 7%, or 8%, i think that's a mistake. we have to wait for the returns to come in but i don't think it's good for people who are falling into single digits the ke to keep going. >> if he falls into single digits -- >> there hasn't been a poll i know of that had him in single digits. we'll see where the numbers fall. i'll tell you this. he hit every question out of the park. had the best debate by far on saturday. we've had 106 town hall meetings. he's moved up consistently in the polls. and the media, when he announced in july, said no one knows you, you'll never get on the debate stage. he gets on, you're here but you'll never raise the money. raised the resources, moved in the polls.
he's now coming into election day with great momentum because he's got a conservative message vision for the country. and because he's done these things. whether it's cutting taxes or getting money and power out of washington. he doesn't just talk about it. a lot of candidates just talk about it. he's done it. that's the leadership we need for the country. >> senator sununu, thank you so much. that does it for this election day on "andrea mitchell reports." tomorrow, as we breakdown the results. we head to south carolina with congressman james clyburn. follow at @mitchellreports. steve kor gnocchi coming up. the medical bills - the credit card debt all piled up. i knew i had to get serious my credit. so i signed up for experian. they have real, live credit experts i can talk to. they helped educate me on how debt affected my fico score.
and good afternoon. i'm steve kornacki. we are live in manchester, new hampshire. voting in the new hampshire primary is under way. and it is do or die in the live free or die state. >> it's primary day here in new hampshire. >> this is sort of our final lovefest. all right? >> i am just looking for a great election day. as many people who could turn out. >> they come back in? >> i don't know, you know, call me whatever you want to call me. i'm after tonight. then it's your phrase, not mine. >> i've been around the track a few times. looking forward to south carolina tomorrow, but today is the new hampshire day. >> we feel good. we finish strong here and head to south carolina. >> the last polls will close seven hours from now. 8 p.m. eastern time and of course, that means the candidates are still out there in full force hoping to con vince the famously undecided
votes. there are some early results to report however from three tiny towns in the northern part of the state. bernie sanders took the most votes on the democratic side for republicans. he had a three halfway tie with donald trump, ted cruz, and john kasich. trump, meanwhile, defending his use of a derogatory term in defense of a cruz rally. >> she just said a terrible thing. she said, i never expected to hear that from you again. she said he's a [ bleep ]. something from the audience. the whole place, we were up front. we didn't want to be too politically correct. not the worst thing, but i was repeating a word a woman kept shouting. and people had a lot of fun with it. >> all right. nbc's katy tur follows the trump campaign and joining me from
j.d.'s tavern. this donald trump we saw last night, is this a guy who's looking at new hampshire and saying, i got this? >> i think this is a much more donald trump than we've seen in the last week. came out of iowa humbled, and stumbled on sunday. he was losing people in the crowd who were leaving but yesterday, we saw him at a town hall. a much more intimate setting in londonderry. the verizon center, you could see him feed off the energy. we saw him be much more confident and own the crowd. when he was that way, that's when we see the more ruckus wild rally. and that's when we saw the "p" word. >> and donald trump, not invincible and marco rubio has the momentum. did the attitude reflect that in the trump campaign? >> there was silence in the
trump campaign in iowa and certainly right after. dead silence. nobody saying anything other than the iowa operatives talking to us off the record what they think went wrong there. by the time we went into it a few more days, they were being nicer to the press than in the past. conciliatory to see some of the ground game. we saw door knocks yesterday with the staffer who was going to try to convince people to just at their home to donald trump. we have never seen that before. usually, anyone can shoot their field operation, shoot them phone banking but the trump campaign is not like that. i talked to a staffer. why not show us this? why is it a secret? he said, then you'd know how it's all been won, if we told you. which i thought was interesting but i think we see them gain confidence especially as the poll numbers continue to be so strong here. the big question is though, how
strong will those poll numbers look in hindsight when we see the vote? >> that was the story we were talking about in iowa. we'll see if he puts his first victory in. >> it will be a huge deal if he wins here. katy tur follows the trump campaign. thanks for that. in terms of political attacks, focus is on marco rubio and taking heat from the gop rivals. take a look. >> marco's gift, he doesn't have a track record of accomplishments. >> i enjoy making people know i'm ready to be ready and senator rubio is not. i'm ready to beat hillary clinton and he's not. >> gabe gutierrez is following the rubio campaign. he's live now in salem. what are you picking up around that campaign? they had the rough debate. what's the expectation? >> reporter: hi there, steve. it's been a difficult couple of days in that sense following that debate performance for the
rubio campaign but they are desperately trying to stay on message. and rubio took limited questions from reporters today. he was supposed to come to this polling place but his campaign moved to another location, no reason given for that but during his limited appearance, he has tried to strike an optimistic tone, but during his stump speech last night, there was a moment that played right into the hands of his critics. take a listen. >> we are taking our message to families that are struggling to raise their children in the 21st century and saw jeanette. and in the 21st century, it's become harder instill the values they teach in our homes and church instead of the values they try to ram down our throats. >> reporter: of course, the same
line repeated twice right away. they will say it's more evidence he's robotic but they say it's part of a media narrative and these voters won't care. they hope the voters focus more on his accomplishments, an experience in foreign policy and national security but this is a situation in which that repeated line in his stump speech yesterday, any other candidate, any other speech, probably wouldn't have made much of a difference. it could have been he just lost his place but with the scrutiny of marco rubio and with this image of him as being this robotic candidate, what his critics said for days, he's under a lot of scrutiny. since there has been no reliable polling since that debate, the question is, will these voters pay attention to that? >> that's a great point. everybody's looking for that with rubio. everybody will pounce. gabe gutierrez, thank you for that.
nobody knows new hampshire politics better than former governor john sununu, he was a white house chief of staff and many other things. joins me now. salem, new hampshire, is that your hometown? >> hampton falls. i'm the real sununu. you had the imposter. >> sununus all over the place. tonight, realistically, are we looking at donald trump probably first in the battles for the second? >> he will probably be first. the problem, he's been ahead by 24 to 30 points and at least half of that. if he doesn't win by 12 to 15, you'll call him a loser so he'll go into south carolina, if he comes in like that, as a loser. i think second, third, and fourth are important places coming out of here. the governors the other night did themselves a lot of good in the debate. i think you'll see jeb and kasich coming out of here pretty strong. i don't know exactly where governor christie will end up
but i think you'll see here the beginning of the winnowing out process. >> the rubio thing, you had the report from gabe. you know the history. i thought of 1988. george bush sr. >> this is my microphone. >> pete dupont gives the anti-tax but won't sign it. and had to add it up that weekend but the momentum added up. did something similar to that happen on saturday night? >> what happened to rubio on saturday night. he came in here as the hook on to which people were going to cast strategic votes. they may not vote for the number one choice, but those that didn't really like trump were going to cast their vote for rubio. i think what he lost that night was the strategic votes that were going to him. i don't think it kicked off rubio supporters but kicked off those willing to give him their
vote as the second or third choice. so i think what happens here for second, third, and fourth place is very important. if he gets himself back into that crowd, he'll be okay, but he may not be able to do that. >> and you're saying, this starts the winnowing process. if we have a result something like donald trump in the low 30s and then kasich and bush and rubio bunched together, 16, 15, 13, does that winnow the field and say, i'm still alive? >> yes and going to south carolina with a case of those with money and start making their case. there's been the shifting, steve. this campaign started all emotional, five, six months ago. hot rhetoric, all emotional reality show kind of support. as in the last three or four days, particularly in that debate, you saw people starting to talk about issues and the differences between the candidates. that's happening now.
it will get started here, get accelerated in south carolina, and then on march 1st, they hit the 12 primary, 12 state primary day and then that will make a big difference. >> we get the super primaries. you know, obviously, you have been through a lot of these primaries before and the tradition of the state is the one on one voter contact, the town hall meetings. everybody gets to meet the candidates up close and personal. donald trump hasn't done that this campaign. if he walks out with a win tonight, has he changed the way people approach the primary? >> we've had others come in as the big personality. eisenhower, never stepped foot in the state at all. what new hampshire will show is when they pick number one, number two or three or four. >> i voted by absentee on friday.
>> you want to tell us who it was for? >> no. but it was a governor. >> a current governor? >> no, a governor, a former governor. >> probably as close as i'm going to get. former white house chief of staff voted for a current or former governor. and hillary clinton trying to close the gap with bernie sanders. a big lead coming in today and in durham, host of the university of new hampshire with the clinton campaign. >> reporter: hey, steve. the clinton campaign has been lowering expectations. senator sanders has maintained a double digit lead and campaign officials say if they can get that lead down to a single digit win, that would look like a victory for them. so they are, as you can see over my shoulder, rallying their supporters. this is a look inside the field office here in nashua. these are volunteers who are about to go out, knock on doors,
encourage people to get out and vote today to weigh in for secretary clinton. i caught up with secretary clinton earlier today at a polling place. and i asked her if a single digit loss would be a win. here's what she had to say. >> i am just looking for a great election day. as many people who could turn out, express their opinions. be part of this process. and to me, that's a big reason why it's so important. >> they have their eye to the states later this month and the super tuesday states. one campaign official saying they are focused also on those caucus states like nevada, colorado, minnesota. those states help propel then senator barack obama to the nomination back in 2008. they're also focusing on rallying the obama coalition, african-american voters critical in states like south carolina and throughout the south.
and they're trying to determine how to do a better job of reaching those younger voters. there's a lead. i talk to secretary clinton supporters and volunteers, a lot of reminiscing about 2008. that's when she came back and beat senator barack obama, one volunteer telling me they expect her to be the comeback kid again tonight. we'll see if that happens. steve, back to you. >> let's bring in karen finney, the senior spokesperson. thank you for joining us. >> great to be with you. >> are you looking for single digits and say we did closer than people expected? it's a moral victory. >> we look for a big turnout. that's what we're focus on. we want people to vote and obviously to vote for hillary but as kristen said, we are also new hampshire's very important, but we are looking to south carolina and nevada. the process was really, as you know, at the dnc when we added south carolina and nevada and the process was designed to make sure that candidates have to go
through a diversity of state and issues. >> i get the diversity. nobody saw it coming. hillary clinton won the state. >> senator sanders has been far ahead. >> he didn't take up the lead until several months -- >> he's been pretty far ahead though for a while and the tradition is that a neighboring state senator candidate always wins with one exception which was howard dean who lost to john kerry. >> that's the second exception that lost to jimmy carter. this is the guy from burlington, vermont. hillary clinton walked in with 100% name id and had some advantages here too.
>> every campaign is is different. every election year is different. 2016 is different than 2008. you have the make your case to the voters. and i think senator sanders, he has a high name recognition here in new hampshire. so the contours of the race are different but i feel good about where we are. i think we feel good about the race that we've run here. we have a great ground game. really wonderful people, getting out, knocks on doors. and hillary worked hard. obviously, new hampshire has a special place in both she and president clinton's hearts for the reasons that you mentioned. so we'll just see what happens. this is the thing, steve. we're at the point that whatever the polls say is what they say. now it's about the voters and people deciding. i know some people are undecided as of this morning and some people going to their polling location and making that decision. >> what i remember too, 1992 when bill clinton called himself the comeback kid, he made the
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busy punching people out and wasn't happy after iowa. what i heard yesterday was optimism, economic growth, tax cuts, strong defense. go after china. >> if he got his confidence back in the last week, what do you think did it? watching rubio struggle in the debate and saying, this guy is under control now? >> no, i think it's a donald thing. i mean, i'm not in his inner sickle b circle but i thought he thought about it and said off-message, punching people out may have a point, but you've got to tell folks what you believe in. what would you do. i asked him yesterday directly, you're worried about recession. a credit bubble, the stock market at the time off 400 points. what does president trump do in 2017 if you're in recession and reeled off a bufrnl nch of thin
spending restraint was another. tough on trade, tough on immigration. now, that's the trump message. like it or not. he was back on message. and i think it's helped him come through in this election. >> if he wins tonight, would you consider him? would you say he's the front-runner for the republican nomination? >> i would. on the other hand, if he wins by three points -- >> then the story is it's closer than expected. >> and ted cruz has a powerful campaign. a lot of people stopped talking about cruz. he may not do fabulously here but down to south carolina and the sec, when you get into florida, cruz is going to be very -- >> that's the other thing i'm wondering about here because we were talking about with governor sunu sununu. traditionally, they winnow the field and say, all right, tried. it's othver but if trump wins ts and then this jumble with kasich and bush and rubio and christie and all bunched together, they
all look at that and say, maybe i'm not in great position to win it, but the other guy isn't either and if that happens, it's advantage trump. >> it's advantage trump. you're a better horse race guy than i am. i could see the point. i think you'll see dropouts after tonight, all right? definitely. >> anyone in particular? >> i don't want to speak, but there will be dropouts, believe me. i think kasich is guy on the rise. i interviewed him after his town meeting in his bus. i was honored to interview him in his bus. i've known the guy over 25 years. upbeat, happy face. again, on message. he's got this thing now, positive optimistic, i can give you solutions. that's the john kasich i know. he's getting the sea legs on that message. his numbers are going up. i think he's going to do very well this evening and that's a key factor and i will say one
thing. jeb bush, we had jeb on an adjusted basis, a lot of energy. a lot of conviction. >> this is the new standard we've got. >> you've got to do this. and, you know, he was the first guy, if you go back to talk about 4% growth. lower taxes and regulations. i think he kind of detoured from that and i think trump got into his head a bit. but i heard him clear as a bell. i wanted to ask you about rubio too. he had the momentum and the debate moment. do you look at that debate moment as revealing to you about marco rubio? >> i think it hurt. i think it hurt. senator rubio is a friend. i think it hurt. i don't want to go too far, he may well come back. he's a talented young man. on the other hand, kind of strikes me as a boxer who got
knocked down trying to get off the canvas. very off message now. and upbeat thing he always has going, it's not around. that may change. i don't want to put him down. this is a long process. it will not be decided tonight. you know this too but right now, he's on the canvas trying to come back and we'll see how he does tonight. maybe we're wrong and it wasn't that big of a deal but i think it was. >> larry kudlow, a new metric. >> thank you for having me. reaction to a second apparent glitch moment from marco rubio. we'll talk about that with a senior member of rubio's campaign. stay with us. whether you're out on the town... or in for the night... at&t helps keep everyone connected.
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new hampshire secretary of state predicting more than 550,000 people will vote in today's primaries. that would be a record. msnbc's tony de culpo is here. what has turnout been like there so far? >> reporter: hey, steve. it's the largest polling station in all of new hampshire and one of the biggest in the country. 10,000 people had to come through these doors, maybe as many as 20,000. people thought it would slow things down with the voter id law. the problem has been traffic. you can see the line here behind me goes for miles in that direction. voters are reporting a 15 to 45 minute wait and some have been turning around, giving up. maybe they come back later. i'm with katherine gerard and
this is a small town. >> it's pretty busy, but it's moving along. came in the side street, so it was pretty quick. >> reporter: how did you figure it out? what's the trick? >> take woodbury and park on the side of the street. >> reporter: you got in there successfully. who did you vote? >> bernie sanders. >> reporter: what do you like about him? >> i think he's kind of, you know, low key, he's not like all over the place. i think he has definitely, you know, a plan and i just like his demeanor. you know, the fact he's an immigrant and i think he really wants to help people out. >> reporter: i'm sure he's happy you persevered through this traffic. this is a real problem. the election official aside. he fought through this very
traffic to get on the scene and an observer to take the tour, noted the long lines and at the moment, we thought there were going to be 10 tho,000, up to 20,000. they don't feel like they're getting anyone that they should be. that's one of the places coming in tonight. thank you, tony. next, we'll turn to the democrats. hillary clinton reviving her campaign. been spreading what she calls artful smears but first, will rubio's so-called new glitch moment hurt him in today's primary? i'll talk with alex conan from the rubio campaign up next. know your financial plan
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like eric eriksson, the only polls since the debate shows marco rising a little bit. it's a quick poll, but showing that we're holding our own here and we've had a record amount of fund raising at marcorubio.com. but the people we care about are responding well. >> i guess here's the angle i'm interested in looking at it from. it's so much of the republican rhetoric has been, we can't have another barack obama. every republican candidate is saying this and chris christie and your opponents are using this to say marco rubio is another barack obama. he's a freshman senator. he relies too much on speeches, tell prompters.
and i'm ready and he's not. we cannot put another first term senator. she won't eat me alive. i can guarantee. >> not just thinking about that debate moment but in general, the profile of marco rubio, the first term senator, a well spoken guy, there are broad parallels to the story of barack obama in 2008. >> barack obama was a failed president not because of the senate but he had really bad ideas. he's been in for seven years and seven years of presidential experience and look at the budget today. still showing bad judgment. remember what governor christie said this morning, nobody had the sort of foreign policy and national security experience that marco rubio does. he's the sort of candidate involved in national security as a member of the senate
intelligence committee and senate foreign relations committee and showed it when martha pressed him going at him three times and he showed a level of depth and understanding about the middle east and isis that no other candidate on the stage has. >> you think tonight's result will win on the republican field and see candidates dropping out? >> the governors are all in here. the last couple of months, they have to either win or exceed expectations or there's no future pathway for them and have to drop out. as you see the window, you'll see marco rubio rise. >> what about donald trump? people after iowa, you know the political world was basically saying, donald trump, he can be beaten. marco rubio, he's the surging candidate. if we come away from tonight with donald trump, were we
underestimating trump? >> he's always strong in new hampshire. like every poll shows him at 30%. it's pretty remarkable and then a big field, nobody else will get close to 30%. so yeah, i fully expect trump to win tonight but i think you'll see candidates like marco, especially marco and once this is a two or three person race, we're going to do very well. >> alex conant. thank you. donald trump's use of an obscenity and what it may reveal about how different his new hampshire strategy is from the iowa strategy. ♪ one day a rider made a decision. the decision to ride on and save money. he decided to save money by switching his motorcycle insurance to geico. there's no shame in saving money. ride on, ride proud.
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republican side but coming to new hampshire, it's a very different story. there's been a return on trump's part to the tone that used to define him and not just the vulgar word he used last night but his other colorful rhetoric the last week. >> he gets the nomination, they're going to sue his [ bleep ]. i was going to say they're full of [ bleep ], but i won't say that. we're going to knock the [ bleep ] out of isis. we have businesses that used to be in new hampshire that are now in mexico come back to new hampshire and you can tell them to go [ bleep ] themselves. >> and with me now are sabrina and the white house correspondent for buzz feed. we want to show you the difference between campaigning in iowa and new hampshire. in iowa, the republican side, the exit and entrance poll, 62% of caucus goers or evangelical christia
christians, don't want to be swearing too much but in new hampshire, only 22%. so here's donald trump. the old donald trump is back here in new hampshire. i guess the republican side, what do we expect tonight? coming down from the rubio campaign and both say they expect donald trump to come in first tonight but the question is, is it a big first place win for him or the story tonight end up being this is closer than we all expected? >> i think it's hard to imagine we won't win by a significant margin but that depends on the ground game and there have been concerns raised over the effect, an extent of the ground game in new hampshire in recent days. ted cruz with a potentially stronger ground game than donald trump. >> i wonder how much the ground game matters. it's a simple primary. not like this complicated caucus process and you have the voter turnout rates. if this is the kind of state to drag people out and they show up because it's their civic duty.
>> a thii think a lot will be sr to iowa and people sway in his direction. i was at a polling center with a woman who said she hasn't made up her mind. that doesn't speak for everyone, but i think they've got so many choices and this pile-up after donald trump, all vying for second place, i think that really will come down to it. >> people will tell you who and why. he had a breakfast event with jeb bush. got breakfast with a presidential candidate. he said, john kasich. you get the free breakfast. i think that happens all the time up here. the democrats and look at the republican side, what are you looking for tonight? >> i think you talk about the idea of trump, his strategy of
changing his message. we saw this happen in 2011 when he sort of was messing around with the candidacy back then and dropping f bombs and mf bombs to boost his coverage again, his image again. so trump is smart about this. what did he do with iowa? he said, he was a fraud. get the loss off. i'm back to being the tough guy you guys want. the tough, loud, brash guy. the question is how it affects with voters but obviously a strategy by trump to say, look, iowa is in the past. i'm a different guy. i'm back to where i was before. no more messing an, evangelicals. we're talking tough. we're talking about china. >> it's the kind of republican that donald trump is appealing to, the republican voter who wants the tough guy. isn't necessarily that religious. and that is the new hampshire republican party. >> i think as much as new
hampshire is viewed as having the place that's pragmatic as the so-called fringe, but showing us voters here, but just as frustrated as the republican primary voters anywhere else. that's where it's for the republican establishment. they haven't had coalescincoale. and if you have ted cruz do well here, then you might end up looking cresting looking increasingly at a two-man race. the impact of marco rubio's debate remains to be seen but can't allow them to go with the race but probably because of new hampshire if they do. >> looks like they get a bit of a short rift this week. everyone is talking about the idea of what happens after this. what does the new hampshire thing mean for the next thing? but voters turn out. what they do and decide today is a big impact on politics
regardless of what happens in the future primaries because lessons are taken away in the state with the republican party is at and the democratic party is at. and they're far ranging. we have talk about it like a steppingstone with the iowa sort of thing and a new tone for the race and what's going to happen in the south and i think we should focus on what's going to happen tonight. i think there should be some real strong messages to the parties that come out of the state tonight. >> including in iowa. and i think the most likely possibility looking at these polls is that the message that comes out in terms of who goes on, as everyone goes on. new hampshire usually cuts the field down but if they look like the polls we're seeing, i can't imagine any of the candidates saying i have no chance now. they'll look at everybody else saying they've got the same chance i have. but we'll see again. new hampshire is full of surprises. ask barack obama in 2008. hesh he remembers that one. and lester holt kaucaught up wi
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senator sanders just took wall street to the senate campaign committee. >> that was hillary clinton talking about her opponent bernie sanders, reiterating that the sanders campaign has been engaged in an artful smear against her. let's turn to the democratic side. evan, we had karen finney on at the start of the show and i examined her about expectations, and she said, well, we always expected bernie sanders to do really well, maybe win this state. i've been hearing this from hillary clinton people. oh, bernie sanders has a huge advantage here. yes, there are some areas of the state that border vermont. they are generally lightly populated areas. there isn't too much in nashua. i don't think it's what they think it is. >> the bernie sanders campaign said a 2% hillary clinton win was in dispute. a win is a win is a win is a
win. i was talking to a senior sanders person on the phone, and they said, look, the way we view it is 15% is a win, the rest is momentum. i can't argue that point. to have a clinton campaign that completely turned iowa into this juggernaut jump-off point that proved how solid her campaign was, and to come here and say, we're going to lose by a lot doesn't mean anything. >> and all the talk on the clint o on side about the advantages bernie sanders has, he comes from vermont. former first lady, former secretary of state who won the new hampshire primary. >> she won the new hampshire primary in the 2008 election whose husband had his own comeback here. this is where he called himself the comeback kid, and who came in here with all the right endorsements. the sitting governor that is the
only democratic governor from this state, a lot of endorsements from state lawmakers as well. it's unclear, of course, as to how they're going to be able to really spin this narrative coming out of a major loss. she denied to rachel maddow a big shake-up on the way reported by politico, but at the end of the day, herm message fundamentally is not translating to the people she needs to reach. young women, single women, especially. that's something she'll have to overcome in the next few months, even going in somewhere she's expected to win. >> i did a story earlier this week, i went to a crowd at a sanders event right after the story of what gloria steinem said, that women who support sanders are boy crazy, so to speak, using the famous quote
about there is no place in hell. they've all seen the quote, they were all very aware of it and were oe phonffended by it. i spent the weekend talking to young democrat strategists. they are really upset with the way the clinton campaign has been reaching out to young women. there have been huge problems in that effort. i think it's something clinton has to solve going forward. we were talking about new hampshire not being a stepping stone to south carolina. there are things we're learning about hillary clinton's campaign and bernie sanders's campaign in new hampshire to pay attention to as we go forward. we can't say this is a stepping stone to vermont or a major stepping stone to the south. >> thanks for joining us. that will do it for our hour of "msnbc live." i'm steve kornacki.
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it feels good. i didn't leave much on the field, so to speak, so i feel good about where we are. >> i feel great. everything feels great. >> it's not over yet. we have to do well here. who knows what will happen. >> there's plenty of time to prepare for the worst, and we're prepared for whatever happens tonight. >> have you been surprised along the way at how well you've done? it takes guts to run. are you surprised? >> no, i'm not. >> i ask you to respectfully please consider giving me the chance to do this job for you. >> new hampshire can help lead this country in a very different direction. thank you all very much!
[ cheers and applause ] >> good afternoon, i'm kate snow coming to you live from new hampshire. it is finally here, decision day in the granite state. record turnout expected in this first in the nation primary. high turnout could be good news for donald trump and for bernie sanders. polls have showed both leading the state by double-digit marge ins for months now and doing well against first-timers. in the tiny town of dixville notch, votes cast before dawn in hartsville and millsford, new hampshire. donald trump and ted cruz in a tie for first place, and bernie sanders leading hillary clinton in a margin of 17-9. these are not a lot of votes we're talking about. we have our team in place all across new hampshire on this primary day, but we're going to start primary day with donald trump well ahead in the polls
but refusing to apologize for a vulgar remark shouted out by an audience member that he then repeated at a rally last night. the woman was talking about ted cruz. take a listen to what happened next. >> she just said a terrible thing. you know what she said? she said, i never expect to hear that from you again. she said, he's a [ bleep ]. terrible. [ cheers and applause ] >> "nbc nightly news" anchor lester holt joins me live here in manchester. just had a chance to speak with donald trump on this big voting day, and you asked him about that comment. >> we talked about that, and you heard that applause at the end. he takes that as affirmation that it was okay. what i heard, and i think a lot of people heard, were past shock, because we know this is a candidate that has had a license, for whatever reason, to say pretty much what he has to say. i wanted to talk to him about it in terms of, is the guy we see on that podium the same guy
we're going to see taking the oval office, potentially, next year? here's part of our conversation on that topic. >> i'm wondering to myself, would you say that as president of the united states? would you put that seal on the podium? >> not at all. >> are you going to be a different guy than the guy we see now? >> i went to the best school. i was a good student. i have an uncle that was one of the top, top professors at mit. there is a good gene pool right there. i have to do what i have to do. >> is that an act? >> no, it's not an act. last night we had thousands of people, it was a great time, and it wasn't my word, it was a woman that kept shout iing it, d i only repeated the word. and the place was -- standing ovation all around. >> that doesn't mean it was in good taste. >> no, but when you're about to be president, you act differently. >> so he said he kind of did this for effect, which led to
the next question, what about his supporters? they like what they see as kind of the finger in the eye of political judges, sheriffs and people out there. it's an interesting -- i don't want to call it admission, but a very reflective moment for him what we see on the campaign trail. >> he's ahead in the polls, but iowa is in the rearview mirror where he lost. how is he feeling? what are his expectations for tonight? >> surprisingly, i said, you're in double digit polls. he said i don't necessarily believe anything right now. i said, are you nervous? he said, no, i'm tentative, is the word he used. i don't know if that's part of let's downplay the expectations, because he didn't do as well as many thought he would in iowa. >> maybe set the bar a little lower. marco rubio, you've had a busy couple of days. you spent time with marco rubio about his debate. you talked to him about the debate on saturday night and some of the flak he's getting from chris christie over repeating himself and his
talking points. let's take a look at that clip. >> i understand people when they're running for office, they're going to say whatever they need to say. look, chris christie has a very liberal record. he supported gun control, he supported planned parenthood, wrote him a personal check. he -- and the media is always looking for something to cover, but the voters? the voters agree with what i'm saying. >> this morning there is another moment that's playing now and going kind of viral where he repeated himself again, and then the robots came out, these sort of fake robots were following him around -- >> he repeated himself several times to me in a conversation. >> is he shake bn by this, or ds he seem to be fairly confident? >> he owns it. the media has played this out of proportion, but it's chris christie and the republicans that have piled on. he said this is what he's built this campaign around, that he
thinks president obama has done a bad job. he thinks he's the guy that can come in and do a better job and unite the party. so if he's feeling bad about being mocked about these robot references, he's not showing it. >> lester holt, thank you so much for bringing that new trump sound for us. tonight, "nbc nightly news," you can catch lester's entire interview with donald trump. check local listings for the time. hillary clinton spent the morning greeting voters at the polling place, hoping to pull off an upset over bernie sanders who has led in 48 surveys now in the granite state. sanders has made a brief appearance taking a walk with reporters and press in the streets of concord, new hampshire. hillary clinton has made a few stops as well this morning, and nbc's kristen welker, let's start with her. she's been on the road with hillary clinton since the iowa caucus. she joins me now in nashua.
how is it going, kristen? >> the clinton campaign continues to downplay expectations. they are behind here in new hampshire, there's no doubt about that. all the polls show senator sanders still has that double-digit lead. what the clinton campaign is hoping to do is to narrow that gap to a single-digit lead. i did catch up with secretary clinton earlier today. she stopped ate po a polling pl before 7:00 a.m., and i asked her if the single-digit loss would actually be a win. is the single-digit loss a win? >> i'm just looking for a great election today, as many people who can turn out, express their opinions, be part of this process. and for me that's a big reason why it's so important. >> reporter: kate, i'm in front of the field office here in nashua where i can tell you people have been streaming in all day long. they're getting their marching orders, they're going back out knocking on doors, encouraging people to get out to the polls and vote for secretary clinton.
her supporters are very upbeat, very reminiscent of 2008 where she came back against senator barack obama. one volunteer telling me they're expecting secretary clinton to be the comeback kid tonight. we'll have to see if that actually happens. kate? >> kristen welker following all of that and the clinton team. thank you, kristen. kacie hunt, in the meantime, has been following the bernie sanders campaign. she joins us from concord, new hampshire. what's going on there? >> reporter: bernie sanders stopped by this polling place about an hour or so ago, and i have to tell you, it was one of the more bizarre campaign events i have ever covered as a political reporter. he essentially came here, walked down through a line of supporters, got to the end of the line of supporters who were waiting with him. he didn't really stop to shake many hands or talk to voters, and then he decided to go for a
walk. so the press corps following him and bernie sanders and a handful of his supporters walked around the block here through some traffic at many points, causing no small degree of stress for the secret service agents who were trying to protect him at this point, both from sharp objects, flying people, potentially cars driving down the street. he joked around that he normally likes to take very quiet walks. it is something he does typically on election day with his wife or ahead of big events, but this one, of course, was not so quiet. he did not take many questions from reporters, but i did get one in to him right when he arrived. take a look. are you still the underdog? >> well, what i think, if there is a large voter turnout, if a lot of folks come out and vote, we're going to do just fine, and it looks like there is going to be a large voter turnout. that's what democracy is about, and that's what we're looking forward to today. >> reporter: sanders acting a
little bit more like the frontrunner, not taking very many questions from the press. now they are pretty confident at this point that they have a solid lead and they don't want to make any mistakes that might jeopardize it, kate. >> kate, i was going to ask you about that, because you've written about the sort of change in tenor that you feel as you're covering the bernie sanders campaign. it has changed in the last few days. >> reporter: it has. some of that is to do strictly with the addition of the secret service, of course, coming on tuesday, but the overall feel is of a campaign that was once scrappy underdog. the senator would travel in one car often. he likes to make last-minute decisions, point to a diner out the window or decide he wants to have tea. senators can go about their daily life in a pretty normal way, and sanders seems to still want to do that, but it's now getting harder and harder, and because he is suddenly a more significant threat to secretary clinton than many people expected, in some ways both him and his campaign are having to
take on more this frontrunner posture. so instead of being accessible like he has been, they're a little more closed down. the security is very intense. the secret service is grappling about how to deal with a candidate who does make these last-minute decisions about where to go, so they're not able to map out their security plans in advance. we were traveling yesterday in a nine-plus motorcade at times with two press boxes, in many ways feeling more like the general election than an underdog in a primary, kate. >> kacie hunt following the sanders campaign. kacie, thanks so much. with bernie sanders leading the polling over the weekend, bill clinton made some sharp statements about the senator, particularly on his policy proposals. yesterday i caught up with the former president following a rally in new hampshire. does it bother you that she's not resonating with young people? >> it's all part of it. they're mad. a lot of them are, because they
think their lives are not going to be better than their parents'. they feel trapped. they have a real catchy answer to that. >> joining us now, andrea mitchell from "andrea mitchell reports." andrea, thanks for joining us again here. we've all done that rope line thing with bill clinton. i don't know if you could hear all of it clearly, but when i asked about young voters, he said they feel trapped, and then he said -- they feel trapped and her opponent came up with a real catchy answer for that, referring to bernie sanders. it almost feels a little dismissive of sanders. >> it's very dismissive. what he's been saying is bernie sanders sound bites are inaccurate, that bernie sanders is promising things he can't deliver. he's been very tough and sharp in the attack mode. i think people within the clinton campaign realize that bill clinton has been frustrated with the messaging, frustrated
that bernie sanders had this momentum. there is a sense -- if you look at his face when he's watching hillary clinton give her speech, there is a sense of, you know, oh, my god, i can't believe this is happening to us again, wait -- the way he reacted and it had a lot of blowback to barack obama as we saw in the primary back in 2008 when he was so dismissive of barack obama that a number of prominent african-american leaders inferred that that was racially tinged, and it really hurt her. it was, in fact, a fatal blow to her candidacy against obama. >> there is a line from last night from that rally that i was at that's getting some attention. it's bill clinton as he was introducing his wife. take a listen. >> look, tonight my job is to introduce hillary. sometimes when i'm on a stage like this, i wish we weren't married, then i could say what i really think. and i don't mean that in a negative way.
i'm happy. >> so he's saying he doesn't mean it in a negative way, but what he was trying to say is what he had said earlier in two other events, saying, you know, i'm constrained because i wish i was just a former president out campaigning, but because i'm a spouse and we can't get too negative, it's basically the subjects, i have to be careful what i say. >> you can see the wheels spinning. >> what he said was, sometimes i wish i weren't married to her. but not in a negative way. >> it could be taken out of context. let's talk about the campaign a little bit more. you asked jane sanders about this and about bill clinton's attack that we all saw in the flannel shirt on sunday when he really went after bernie sanders. let's play that bit with jane sanders with you earlier. >> i'm surprised and a little disappointed. i think that we won't be doing that. to call this a negative campaign
is, as any observer would allow, is just not accurate. we've been running a very, very positive campaign. so it's disappointing, and yet at the same time, it's politics 101. >> that's jane sanders talking to you a couple of hours ago. won't they have to go even more negative, the clinton campaign, though, if they lose here tonight? >> yeah, and they would say -- they had said the sanders campaign has been negative, but just more indirect about it. they say sanders is implying in their press releases that he's been endorsed by unions and newspapers that have not endorsed him. they cherry pick quotes that sound positive out of otherwise endorsements of hillary clinton. so they are -- you know, they're going back and forth. this is a campaign of press release and counter press release, and it's getting increasingly hostile, because if the results do turn out to be bernie sanders by a big victory tonight, she really has to come
back in south carolina, and that's where we're going to see them engaged, and also nevada. i'm already told minnesota, colorado, nevada, he has strength in caucus states. it's a way of organizing, it's much more difficult than the primaries, and he is trying to do what barack obama did. >> it feels like barack obama all over again in that sense. >> so you're going to see, i think, the next primary state being south carolina, that's going to be a real battleground. >> andrea mitchell, great to check in with you. thank you so much. you can always see "andrea mitchell reports" weekdays at noon right here on msnbc. our primary coverage begins at 6:00 eastern with nbc's brian williams, rachel maddow and chris matthews. just when you thought it was safe to let your children watch political television, along comes donald trump and the language he used last night.
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new hampshire that are now in mexico come back to new hampshire, and you can tell them to go [ bleep ] themselves. >> donald trump no stranger to profanity on the campaign trail, but he has a little bit of a controversy brewing today. earlier any mi colleagmy colleal spoke to the frontrunner about a rally last night where he used a word that a woman said from the crowd talking about ted cruz. >> we had a great time last night. that was a woman shouting something, we all had a lot of fun. when you get to be president or just before you get to be president, the attitude will change very much. i was a good student at a good school, my uncle was mit professor for a number of years. i know what i have to do. right now we're in a combative stage and we want to have a little fun. everybody wants to be so politically correct. it's a problem for our country.
>> with me now bloomberg politics co-managing editors mark halpern and george halgren. good to have you. >> thank you. >> to quote from a woman who said her husband is voting for trump. i told him, well, trump should watch his mouth sometimes, but other than that, i said, well, sometimes i don't watch mine, either. that's the supporters that we're seeing for donald trump. you were there last night. >> we were. >> big deal or not a big deal when he uses that kind of language? >> i think for his supporters, not a big deal at all, and he puts his finger right on it when he's answering tamron. he says, the notion of the country is too politically correct, he's direct about the charge he makes about america. the fact he's not indirect is appealing to his supporters. so when he says things like this, among the people who like donald trump, they like it.
>> i was watching sarah palin's endorsement of donald trump with my daughter, 10 years old. she's using language that my daughter is like, what does that mean? as a parent, i find myself uncomfortable with some of the things the politicians are saying this time around. >> they're turning cspan into cinemax. anything can be said. >> why is that happening? >> he's been doing this for years. it's the way he talks. i don't mean to paint too broad a brush here, but he's a guy from queens who talks in a way -- >> it's not just donald trump, right? it's sort of more on the republican side than the democratic side, but it does feel like there is a casualness to all the language being used this go-around. is that because it's social media? are they trying to appeal to people? >> if you were trying to attract television for the last 30 years, there's been an increasingly broad and more liberal attitude towards various forms of profanity. we now say things in prime time tv that were not said 10, 20
years ago. the country has become more jade and calloused and accepting to that kind of language. it's not a surprise to me. actually, our politics are behind the curve on this compared to our popular culture. not surprising popular culture is catching up to that. >> donald trump recently told people he would bring back waterboarding. he said it in a couple different interviews, including "meet the press." john mccain spoke about that on the floor, about those comments, and here's what the senator had to say. >> it might be easy to dismiss this blusterous, cheap campaign rhetoric, but these mistakes must not go unanswered because they mislead the american people about the reality of interrogation. >> i guess nobody expected john mccain to be a big endorser of donald trump, but how do you read that? >> since 9/11, the republican
party has been divided on the question of morality, constitutionality and efficacy of enhanced interrogation techniques, including waterboarding. john mccain from the beginning has been a leader saying it's bad for america, it doesn't work and it's a bad idea. i think he is picking on not just donald trump but ted cruz and others who in the debate showed an openness to this. mccain thinks it's a bad idea on multiple levels. >> we asked about marco rubio. john, today he's out there, there is a robot tailing him, there's been pictures going by with this rubio robot, and the whole point is about saturday's debate and the attack that he's repeating lines over and over again. does that stick, or is that just a bunch of good tv? >> first of all, i'm always happy to see a large number of people dressed in costumes, chickens, whatever they are. >> it adds interest, right? >> it's an a musing ritual and i'm glad to see it here this year. i don't know whether it sticks
or not. because the polling over the weekend has been a lot that took place before the debate, some that took place on super bowl sunday, we don't really have a sense. there are a lot of people that think it will take the wind out of rubio's sails, but tonight if he comes in second, people will say, wow, that had no effect on him whatsoever. it's just impossible to know right now. >> i know you guys don't do predictions, so i won't even ask. but if you wanted to throw out your number two republican pick tonight -- no? >> not even close. let the people decide. >> i can say scott walker will not be number two. i feel confident about that. >> thank you guys for coming over. still ahead this hour, the largest polling location in new hampshire. we will be joined from merrimac, new hampshire, up next. >> are you a democrat or
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the clean pairings menu. at panera. food as it should be. new hampshire state officials are expecting record turnout in today's primary, w. h they're headed to the merrimac high school, one of the largest voting centers in the state. tony has covered voter turnout during the past two elections. how is it looking out there, tony? >> reporter: hi, kate, this is a must-win for a lot of republican candidate. it is the biggest polling station in the state, one of the biggest in the country. where we're standing is really the moment of truth. right here, these tables, this is where voters come and they have that final choice. they've got to pick one ballot,
republican or democrat. those undeclared voters, this is where they become declared just before going into the voting booth. we caught up with a few of them to see how they were going to decide. take a look at that. >> my vote was for rand paul, and sadly he's not here, but i'm contemplating kasich. >> i'm voting for bernie sanders. >> he's not like a regular candidate. he wants to have wall street not run the country. >> i like dr. carson because i feel like he's different. he seems to be the people, from the people, not from a political background. >> so, kate, it's not only the undeclared that are a wild card here in new hampshire. new hampshire is a state with same day voter registration. it's always unclear how many reg stran istrants are going to turn out.
what's it looking like? >> so far we've had about 300 people come to register. registration is very steady, very high. >> picking up here, isn't it? >> and picking up, yes. in the last two hours we've done 100. >> reporter: that's 300 and going toward 500 by the end of the day? people don't make a decision here literally until they get to the voting booth. kate, back to you. >> tony, thanks so much. up next, inside hillary clinton's campaign. i'll speak with the deputy communication director for hillary clinton for america, up next. >> this big job interview that you're conducting tomorrow, you got to ask yourself, who can do all aspects of the job? you know, that's really what this is about.
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earlier in the hour we showed you bill clinton at the final big rally with the whole family. we discussed hillary clinton message, why it's not resonating with young people and expectations for tonight. here's that full exchange. >> is hillary's message outdated? are you worried about that? >> no, i don't think having an economy that's rising is o outdated. that's what people are worried about. they're worried that aggregate numbers look good and only 60% are paid out. >> does it bother you she's not resonating with young people? >> it's all part of the study. they've been tied up for a year. a lot of them think their lives are not going to be better than
their parents'. they feel trapped. her opponent has a real catchy, you know, answer to that. what bothers me is -- thank you -- what bothers me is, we haven't been able, until the last few days, to have anything approaching an open conversation about it. and i feel good about it. we're going to debate the future democratic party directions to take a few months now, and i look forward to it. >>. >> i love new hampshire. i never voted for anybody who lived next door. whatever happens will happen. >> former president clinton there repeating what we've heard over the last week, saying
senator sanders has an advantage in new hampshire because of his proximity being in vermont. how is the clinton campaign feeling in these final hours? christine shockey is with us. did i say the wrong name? did i say christina? >> we're all so tired. >> i know. sorry about that. the exchange i had with bill clinton last night, the former president, he seems a little dismissive of young voters as people are reading it that way. he says, oh, bernie sanders has this catchy answer. is it write to be so dismissive of the people that -- >> i have to say not at all. young people have more instinct than anybody else. there is so much at stake. a year from now a new president is going to go in the oval office to replace president obama, and we have a choice to make. are they going to build on the progress they've made for this country, or are we going to let
the republicans rip it away? how do we make college more affordable? how do we create good jobs? not dismissive at all. in fact, hillary has said she's so pleased with the involvement of young people in this election. there's so much enthusiasm. even if it's not with her right now, she thinks it's a great thing. >> why isn't it working for you? same thing i asked him, why isn't that message resonating with people? >> we know we have some work to do, and that's been very clear. i have to travel with hillary a lot, and it's really been stunning to me how many young women really don't know her history. they don't know that she has been a fighter for women's rights for her entire life. >> they weren't born yet. >> they weren't born yet when she was doing that work. we have to tell that story, and just as importantly, we have to talk about the plans she has for their futures. hillary has real achievable plans that are going to make a difference in their lives. from protecting planned parenthood to making college more affordable, to getting
young people health insurance. she has a real track record about delivering -- taking her progress ive values and delivering for americans. we have to get out there and do what hillary does best. do the hard work, talk to people, really engage, listen, talk about what she would do and never give up. >> there have been reports, as you've seen, that the campaign will maybe shake up. if things don't go well tonight, there will be changes on the staff. this is what hillary clinton told my colleague rachel maddow yesterday. >> we're going to take stock. but it's going to be the campaign that i've got. i'm very confident in the people that i have and i'm very committed to them, very committed to doing the best we can. we're going to take stock -- >> we're going to take stock was the first part of that answer. are you going to shake things up? >> she was asked directly about staff changes and she said no. but hillary is a very smart
candidate. she's always learning, she's always adapting. this is a long, hard primary, and i'm sure we'll do tomorrow what we've done after every big event on this campaign. we'll have a meeting to assess, what can we do, what did we learn, how can we make a difference? that's what we've always done. we do a look-back, how can we improve. >> david axelrod said there might be a staff change by tweeting this yesterday. when the exact same problems crop up in separate campaigns with different staff, at what point do the principals, meaning the candidates, say, maybe it's us? >> there is always a lot of commentary, there is a lot of pundits talking about these things, but for hillary she's always focused on the fundamentals. she's doing it today, campaigning her heart out, talking about the difference she makes in people's lives. we don't really pay a lot of attention to that kind of commentary, we're just out there talking to new hampshire voters
about what she would do as president. >> and tonight, how are you feeling? give me the honest assessment. >> i have to tell you, we felt great coming off a hard-fought win in iowa. we knew we had an uphill climb here. a lot of pundits actually told her to pass the state by. that's not something hillary would ever do. so she's out there just campaigning her heart out, and we feel good. i have to say we think herm her message is really start to go resonate with people about what she would do as president, how she's prepared to take on all aspects of the job. from commander in chief to raising wages in this country. she's really the best, most experienc experienced candidate in this race, and we feel good how this is closing out here. >> christine shockey, thank you so much for talking to us about the clinton campaign. merrimac is a republican leaning town, and from there we go to the university of new hampshire. that's known as more of a liberal college campus, a democratic stronghold.
jacob is back once again on that bus shuttle. that's the shuttle that transports students to polling stations in durham, and he's in the crowd there. jacob? >> reporter: hey, kate. so we are actually on the shuttle bus provided by the university of new hampshire that goes between the university campus in durham over to royster river high school where people are voting. how many democrats on the bus do we have here? >> whoo. >> how many republicans? some guys in the front. what do you mean undecided? did you vote? >> i did vote democrat. >> who did you vote for? >> bernie sanders. >> any hillary clinton voters on the bus? you voted for hillary? what's your name? >> amelia. >> amelia. why did you decide to vote for hillary? >> i appreciated her ideas for
making education affordable without taking away states' rights. >> reporter: any better harnie supporters want to tell me why you voted for bernie? >> i like his health care policies, especially. >> what about trump supporters? no trump supporters on the bus. any john kasich supporters? jeb bush. you're a jeb bush voter on the bus. do you think jeb bush has a chance today? >> it's tough to say. right now it looks like trump is probably going to do well in new hampshire, in my personal opinion. >> reporter: there you go. he said trump is going to do well in new hampshire. kate, back to you from the bus. >> all right. jacob soberoff on the bus. up next, can marco rubio regain his stride in new hampshire after a rocky weekend debate? is he good for the granite state? up next. >> voters are excited about the
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twice. rubio's misstep occurs after a debate in which he did it several times. at polling stations today, people dressed up as robot rubio and greeted the senator. at least one person holding that robot rubio sign right there even shouted the phrase at rubio as he came off his campaign bus. >> robot! robot! robot! robot! robot! >> nbc's gabe gutierrez has been tracking rubio on the ground here in new hampshire. hi, gabe. >> reporter: kate, good afternoon. the rubio campaign is doing the best they can to try and shift the focus away from the candidate's debate performance over the weekend and trying to look toward the future and move past it. we're here in a polling place in salem, new hampshire.
this is one of the polling places rubio was supposed to come today, calling it inaudible and moving to another location nearby. he's taking limited questions from reporters, but he did speak earlier. >> it's an incredible experience and an incredible process. we love being a part of t we feel real good. we're going to finish strong here and head to south carolina. >> voters will likely make a difference in this republican primary. since there has been unreliable polling since saturday's debate, it's unclear what it meant for rubio's campaign. the campaign saying the rest of the debate went fine, saying that voters will focus on his national security and foreign policy experience, but there are many republicans waiting to pounce here. and the big question will be, will these voters put much stock in that debate performance. kate? >> all right, gabe gutierrez, out there with the rubio campaign. we'll be checking back with him all throughout the day.
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so you think you've seen everything this political season? a really large pig showed up at a polling location in pelham, new hampshire today. i'm not kidding. it looked like a dog. they were trying to escort the pig. not clear exactly where the pig's owner was or how it got there. here in new hampshire,
candidates working around the clock to earn those final votes, many of those focusing on specific counties that would make or break their candidacy. this is interesting, msnbc anchor political correspondent steve kornacki joins me with more on this, because you can really kind of tell what the strategies would be based on the counties. >> yes, the strategies, and we'll give you a basic viewing guide for tonight if you want to know who is doing how and where. if you remember hillary clinton won that by three points over barack obama. first we started -- i'm going to learn how to do this before 8:00 tonight. we focus on manchester and nashua. in 2008 hillary clinton did really well here. she won by a combined 5,000 votes. her margin statewide was 7500 votes. manchester is almost always the first to report their votes, so we'll know early, is hillary clinton on pace for something she had back then or is bernie sanders making big inroads.
in terms of where to look for bernie sanders, look at a place like keane. this was the heart of the obama territory in 2008. college towns, liberal towns, more traditional new england towns. is bernie sanders running up even bigger margins than barack obama had there? a couple other things to look for. there was also older, post-industrial blue collar burning here in the north. hillary clinton did very well in those areas in 2008. the question with bernie sanders is, his economic message, this populist economic message, it's pitched at the kind of voters that live there. so is he picking off those cities as well? something else to keep an eye on tonight, kate. >> all right, steve kornacki, thank you so much. that wraps it up for me this hour. live from new hampshire, i'm kate snow. we're going to leave you today with new video we just got in of
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humira. this is my body of proof! do you see the turnout? today is going to be historic. we feel really good about it. people walking into our office to volunteer for the first time. >> we're going to be working until the last vote is passed and counted. >> it's the most fun way to do politics. >> the pundit tree class likes to kind of sell it all, but voters will get to do this starting today. >> and we are back. >> we're back. >> it's a special edition of afternoon joe here with the "morning joe" group. how is everybody doing? are we good? >> it just never stops. it's like the jerry lewis
telethon. i need your check! did that sound close to jerry lewis? >> data expected to come in after 5:00 today. right, joe? >> that's what i hear. now, if you're a person who trusts all the noise, all the on-line tracking, the recent surveys and that sort of stuff, well, you're an idiot, because we're talking about new hampshire. if you think you know who is going to win, well, you're an idiot. who wrote this in the script? nobody! listen, nobody knows nothing. nobody knows what's going to happen tonight. this is a state that time and time again makes experts look stupid. >> all right. >> it's like hillary. we had hillary back in 2008. gary hart all the way back in 1984. gary hart was ahead by, what, 40
points -- or mondale. 40 points. >> exactly. and as you saw, hillary in 2008 surprised everybody. surveys in history indicate that people here may still be making up their minds. we just heard great anecdotal evidence for two people who were going to vote for two separate candidates, and both went in and voted for hillary. >> i want to tell that story now. >> go ahead. >> i'm not going to reveal the people here, but we had two voters come up to us and say they voted. and i said, oh, that's great, and i start to tell the story. i said, i was going to vote for bernie, my wife'sing go to debate it for a month. then we went into the voting booth and when i came out, they said, who did you vote for? hillary. who did you vote for? hillary. it's new hampshire. and it has been new hampshire,
that, bernie sand eers. if you believe donald trump is going to win, 2 through 6, a man we've talked to. >> a lot of faces in a lot of campaigns out there. >> no one really will make or break the big candidates in iowa. here, if hillary clinton loses really badly, she'll want 7 weeks of no pain. in some cases. there's a worry because they don't know.
you look at the republican side. tonight at 10:00, jeb bush may be the conquering hero on wait to a possible republican nomination. or jeb bush may be out. marco rubio may be the comeback kid on the way to a republican nomination. o o our. >> trump may be so dominant that everybody scatters, or people may expect me to start talking about how donald trump is four notes from the end. through all sincerity and all intensity and all seriousness, i am not getting out. >> all you have to do is think.
17%, gave a speech that said, i'm going to south carolina to fight. 72 hours, out. so everyone believes they can survive no matter how bad their standing is tonight. we'll look at whether it's 48 hours, 72 hours and they say, i can't go on. >> but if there's one candidate that has to do well tonight, it's the candidate everybody says has a hot hand. john kasich cannot underperform here and go to south carolina. rubio may be able to, most likely will. bush will. christie may go on regardless, but john kasich needs a big night tonight. because he is in the role of john huntsman this year, but he has to out suntil.
daniel is standing by in merrimac. it's one of the biggest polling stations in the state. tony, we're seeing some trouble there? >> they're expecting at least 10,000 people, maybe 15,000, but there's terrible traffic outside that experimented with the new configuration of cars coming in, and the line is snarled for miles. they're working on that problem. in addition to the traffic, once they get through the traffic, there is kind of a persuasion lane to their front door. there is a cordoned off area where people can kind of decide. finally, they get here in the merrimac high school gym, and this is the moment of truth.
this is when they pick up their ballot in the white and red group. there are father-in-law. >> tony, thank you very much. now to another location. let's go to msnbc's jacob soboroff. he's riding with nufs gears. how are things going? >> anybody first time voters here on the bus? are you? no, everybody but this guy. how about you? so a lot of first-time voters. this is bella who i'm sitting next to right now. do you know who you're going to vote for? >> yeah, i do. >> who are you going to vote for? >> bernie.
>> any other bernie sanders supporters on the bus. you're driving on the bus. what are you going to do to make up your mind? >> i don't know, i'll decide. . it remind me of a quote from winston churchill that the that itte ittest. >> because he's an immigrant. >> okay, there you go. speaking of bernie sanders, casey hunt, you had a lot of time with the con gre gantt. how did it go. >> yeah, he plans to watch football in place, pe left most
of them in the cold. he got out of the car, the secret service knowing to protect him. he walks right past us, he walks down the line of veerts. so he went for a walk around the block in. the secret service totally not knowing what to do about it. as you can see, the secret agents were not super pleased with the sags once this walk concluded, he was -- he didn't shake hands with the voters. >> did not shake hand wis with voters. >> that's one way to do it, i
guess. >> there was a staff member that wanted him to. >> this is the closest he came to new hampshire voting, if you want to play it. are you still the underdog? >> i think if a lot of folks come out to vote, we're going to do just fine, and it looks like there is going to be a. we're looking forward to today. >> new to being the center of attention, it seems. >> you guys followed bernie around and talked about specifically how big of an adjustment it was going to be to have secret service around. it looks like we were seeing it play out today. >> kacie made the point today that he does not like having his
overrun. his family is with him. it's not just him and his wife, he's got kids and grandkids what it's like to now be, in some ways, the frontrunner in the clinton campaign. not accountly. but more importantly, internal strife. the possibility that bill clinton does not like the way this campaign is being run and now we're talking about a shakeup at the topment. there is a belief that tomorrow morning could be a than today so you have to be spinning the possibility that a loss is not a
loss. i think they've ended up in a place where a loss could be a loss, and it could be a long time where she's in an election against bernie sanders. >> you guys will show in the democratic party why losing in new hampshire is far different from iowa. >> the number is nevada. you got 12 days, 13 days from this contest to the nevada caucuses, and then gout another seven days to south carolina. so you really only got 19 days before you hit south carolina. >> a dem. the south carolina results are going to stop on the. sanders is claimed by both side and has people on the -- >> they may have to wait 19
days. >> you're going to do the show from vegas. . that's 19 days, though, for bernie if he does well to raise off the good news of new hampshire, to get drid for read south carolina. that's a pretty tough break for whoever loses this race. >> the argument we've heard from their campaign and other people is that, don't worry about these two states. they're not representative of the groups that support hillary clinton. meaning minority groups in south carolina f. >> i wouldn't has been able to come to you.
senator sanders rpz makes it easy. >> if sanders can beat hillary clinton among young women, why can't bernie sanders beat hillary clinton about african-americans. >> we haven't gotten there yet. >> in south carolina, it's possible to be a trump race. coming up, we're going to check in with the campaigns and then we'll talk about expectations for tonight. we'll be right back after this. in new york state, we believe tomorrow starts today. all across the state the economy is growing, with creative new business incentives, and the lowest taxes in decades, attracting the talent and companies of tomorrow. like in the hudson valley, with world class biotech. and on long island, where great universities are creating next generation technologies.
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anything if we don't get up, don't get out, don't vote. we have to vote. you have to make this change. please go out to vote. you will make america great again. okay. it's 19 past the hour. we are back live at j.d.'s tavern in manchester, new hampshire. >> so we go to the trump rally last night, we interview him backstage. there is a snowstorm outside, there are four or five thousand people there. before iowa, donald trump would have said, look at these people, this is great, and basically concluded, i'm going to win. last night you ask him, you ask cory, you ask all of them, they're like, you know what? they're here and it's great they're here, but it doesn't mean anything if they don't vote. this is a campaign that's chastened by iowa, but they're cautiously optimistic. any other camp would be going, yeah, on top of the world, baby!
>> i don't know if it was facebook or instagram -- >> facebook. >> it was facebook. he has a lot of followers. welcome george ginsberg and katie tur who has been following the trump campaign. >> we were watching you in iowa when everyone was declaring donald trump dead. it was vicious. and you actually stopped it all, and you said, okay, listen, this guy has never been in politics before. and you said, what he did is remarkable over the past six months. it's like everybody was reading too much into iowa. you followed this guy and said, hold off. >> i think that what everybody was quick to do was to say what a loser, he didn't win, he's been saying he's going to win for seven months, he didn't win, he's over. but in reality, he got the most votes in iowa gop caucus history
save for ted cruz. he got more than huckabee, more than santorum, more than bush, more than romney, and to say he's a loser because of that i don't think is entirely fair. it certainly halted his momentum because he had been saying he's leading in all the polls, he's the big winner, he's the man, but to say he had nothing coming into new hampshire is wrong. i spoke to voters right after that and asked them if they were being spawned by the media or the spell had been broken. most of them told me, no, we still believe in him. we think he's the right man for the job. >> first of all, it's also interesting, they needed 45,000. they got 46,000, and they still lost. so even on that front, they got what they were looking for. cruz had an amazing operation. is there any reason to believe that ted cruz is going to have not a similar operation, but going to outperform? is there any other candidate who is going to surprise us tonight?
>> i think when it comes to the polling, we're really going to find out if it's overinflated tonight, more so than we did in iowa. he's got massive crowds here. he's been leading in 78 polls going back to june, which is a rer remarkable feat. over the weekend, i was in a trump rally in holderness, and it seemed like he completely lost his threat. he was meandering. he was losing his point, came back to it, on and on and on. he was losing a good portion of the crowd, they were walking out. i asked them who were they going to see, and a good portion told me john kasich. that's what we're hearing on the road, they're starting to like john kasich. they like his debate performance. i think there is something about him that surges at the end that they're finding appealing at the moment. so i think anything goes. >> could be interesting. >> it's so interesting, and we were talking about marco rubio. you see marco talk now, he's in
his own head, right? and we were talking about donald trump five days ago seemed to be in his own head. but the last couple days since the debate, there is this confidence and this swagger that's back, willie, and you can actually see it in the emerson tracking poll that had it dipping and going back up after the debate. >> i think he was staggered a little bit by iowa. i think he took a punch and said, wow, i've got to take this seriously. i've got to fight for every vote. i think a lot of reporting that came after iowa was, frankly, gleeful from other reporters, like we've been predicting this over and over, maybe he's going down. he didn't go down, he's here, but he led with, you have to go out and vote. this is great, but if you don't vote, it doesn't mean anything. >> same thing in iowa. if you're sick, if you're on your deathbed, your wife has
left you, but he made it in more of a trump way last night. >> also, caucuses. they're impossible to predict what's going to happen. in primaries, maybe 31 to 33% doesn't mean 33%. it's hard to believe it means 25%, though. >> and this is also getting into the time. if you're john kasich, you want to make sure you're not turning out jeb bush voters. if you're jeb bush, you don't want to be turning out chris christie voters. this is where we do our job best to inspire other people. >> what do you think about rubio's ground game? everybody was critical of rubio in iowa because he wasn't going out there enough. after iowa, you looked at the
targeting of des moines and eastern iowa, and you just went, that was a pretty brilliant marketing strategy, and it was. it's pretty extraordinary. it's actually a road map for student categories who didn't r rpt. >> unless thai done an extraordinarily good job hiding it, creating a stealth ground game, they have virtually nothing here and have taken the approach council, but by doing a lot on the air, doing a lot of larger events, they are doing a very different strategy than jeb bush. she has a lot of veterans on the ground. >> cruz has a surprising ground
game. he's trying to pick up the rand paul coalition -- >> yes. >> that's why i say in the absence of anybody having a ground game, add three points to whatever the polls are giving ted cruz right now, because if you aren't that good at a ground game in iowa, and bad in the next state you go to. you know how to play the game. >> trump 13 cruz, 11. cruz at the most interesting number. you add a few on there, suddenly cruz comes in third and surprises everybody. >> ben, you've been around this long enough to know, people whon
how to do a ground game, they don't do it one time. if ted cruz is 11 and he's playing against people that don't know how to do a ground game, you add three or four points. >> with targeting today, you don't always have to have troops on the ground. you can know who your voters are. ground is still the most effective, and you can really see that on march 1st when you have 12 states at once and it's much harder to get people in the field. >> ben ginsberg, katie tur, thanks very much. it's going to be an interesting night. here in manchester, new hampshire, voting is now under way in more than 300 polling places across the state. take a listen to what voters are saying. be right back. >> i voted for rubio, so we'll see what happens. but i think we're getting a change. the last eight years have been near disaster. i'm just hoping for better things coming up. >> i'm supporting hillary clinton. we think she's the most
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as we sit here right now, john kasich, he's, well, he's technically tied for first place in new hampshire. >> he has nine total votes at this point, but we spoke to him earlier on "morning joe." >> i don't know what we sell. "morning joe" has done very well. they don't trash the other shows. so why don't you put your best thing out there. people talk about changing american politics. why don't we just get rid of all these goofy negative ads and talk about what we're for. i'm not going to take a pounding from anybody. you don't want to mess with me. but i would prefer to tell people what my vision is and what i want to do than spend my time talking about somebody else or running somebody else down.
i think people here would rather hear positive than negative. am i right? [ cheers and applause ] >> how do you navigate through your party that seems to be filled with several other candidates who are consumed with anger and seem to be obsessed with barack obama who is not on the ballot? >> you know, mike, look. i think voters are all the same across the country in terms of their concerns. am i going to lose my job in my 50s? can i be retrained? can i keep my job? will my wages go up? will my kid who has rung up all this debt be able to get a job? and what about social security? voters are the same everywhere. and i think you speak to those concerns, and by the way, people say which lane are you in? can you imagine somebody calling me establishment? but i'm not anti-establishment. but i operate in that lane, you know why, because i grew up in a town where if the wind blew the wrong way, people found themselves out of work, and i'm standing up for those folks, mike. and i'll tell you something, i
will get the reagan blue collar democrats back in the republican party. >> how would describe the challenge of simultaneously trying to unite your party and unite the country? >> well, i don't think it's that hard. look, here's the thing. life is short. i'm going to do the best i can. if i don't win, it will be okay. you know, a lady said to me the other day, she said, you can lead new hampshire with your head high and with integrity. i'm creating my own legacy for my family, and i'm not going to sit around just freaking out about this or that. be yourself. be relaxed. >> mike, you have been a native of new hampshire your entire life. this is your backyard. you've been driving around with tim russert and others for years. what is it about a candidate like john kasich that grabs the attention of new hampshire voters? >> i think the biggest thing, joe, is he's been here. he's worked very hard in this state. he's been throughout the state
from berlin to nashua to the sea coast to keane. people respect that in new hampshire. you have to be here. you have to show you're interested in whatever their interests are. he's done it just about as well as anybody has ever done it, and his message is a positive one. he comes down the street like the letter carrier his dad used to be, block by block, with a smile on his face. that's how he greets people, the happy warrior, and that counts for a lot. >> everything mike said is right. there's more to it. he's the governor of ohio. if you're saying let's make a fictional candidate in the republican party, he has a pretty good resume. i've heard a lot of people mention that and that's a big part of his message. remember, he ran for president before. he ran briefly in the 2000 cycle. but he has a sense of the moment. he has a sense of when to push, when to lay back, and a maturity that some other people in this
race just don't have. >> not just the governor of ohio, he won reelection by doubling his support in african-american voters. he's maybe the strongest general election candidate. >> i want to ask you guys about the calendar. we talked about the calendar, the challenges it poses for hillary. let's assume the best for john kasich. john kasich comes in a strong second, or lightning strikes and he wins. we go to donald trump and ted cruz territory for the next month. south carolina is trump country. it's bush country. it's cruz country. it ain't kasich country. alabama, mississippi, georgia. we can go -- i mean, he has to wait a very long time to get back on terra firma. so what does john kasich do between now and then even if he does great tonight? >> they're not winner take all contests. he can pick up delegates. >> the first thing he does is go
to south carolina and try to make sure jeb bush doesn't have a comeback story in south carolina. tries to kill jeb bush. second thing is he looks at those march 1st dates and focuses on states he can win, massachusetts, vermont. the states that aren't the southern states, win some of those and then plant a flag in michigan a week later. >> i want to restate. what's so crazy, mike barnacle, about this is, talking about jeb bush, we have every reason to believe looking at tracking polls that jeb bush is going to go into south carolina stronger. but if it doesn't work out for jeb bush in four hours, 23 minutes and 43 seconds, his campaign is officially over. you can say the same for chris christie, john kasich and marco rubio. i can't remember a primary where the stakes were as high because of all the people clumped together between second and sixth place. >> well, that's what makes this particular primary in this particular year truly interesting, because the voters have it in their hands to truly
separate the pack, as you just pointed out. if donald trump laps the field by 15 points, and if there is a huge disparity between second place and third and fourth, there is going to be a lot of people going to south carolina, but just like the walking wounded, they're not going to survive. bush might be able to continue because of money in the bank, but if he really does poorly, it's going to be -- >> if you take the other side of the scenario, trump wins by 15 points, and it's a tight pack by the way it's reflected in the polls, what is the rationale for those other four to get out other than money. >> what if he's one point behind everybody, one point ahead? carly, who was excluded from the debate, shows pretty darn strong in the last poll that comes out, ahead of chris christie that we're all talking about. >> the first primary is under way here in new hampshire. final polls close at 8:00