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♪ right now on "andrea mitchell reports" -- the winners. new hampshire crowns the outsiders with victory. >> we want to thank the people of new hampshire. >> a huge voter turnout. and i say huge! >> boy, do we have a ground game. you know, we learned a lot about ground games in one week, i have to tell you that. >> what voters here in new
hampshire confirmed tonight is nothing short of the beginning of a political revolution. >> you started it. remember, you started it. >> and now it's on to nevada, south carolina and beyond. the reboot. the clintons search for answers after a devastating loss. >> i know i have some work to do, particularly with young people. i know there are those who want to deny the passion and the purpose you all show everyday for this campaign, but you are the reason we are here and you are the reason we are going to win the nomination and then win this election together! and the new number two, ohio governor john kasich pulls ahead of the pack. but does he have staying power? >> maybe, just maybe, we're turning the page on a dark part of american politics because
tonight the light overcame the darkness of negative campaign i ing. and good day, i'm andrea mitchell in new york. where bernie sanders boosted by a primary victory in new hampshire and another big fund raising hall has kicked off the next phase of his insurgent campaign going right to the heart of a key hillary clinton constituen constituency, african-american voters in harlem. he had breakfast with reverend al at silvio's iconic restaurant in harlem. then he went on "the view." bernie sanders on "the view" asked about the possibility of michael bloomberg as a possible candidate. he said he would get into the race if sanders is the democratic nominee. >> votes, a lot of them, that would go to you would go to him. it would hurt the democrats more
than the republicans. can you live with that? what are we supposed to do with that? >> i couldn't live the fact that we elected some right wing republican. >> that's just another challenge down the road, but right now he is going to the heart of clinton world, which is the african-american community just blocks from where bill clinton has his own office, has been -- has had his office ever since he left the white house. >> that's right, andrea. just a short ten or so minute walk from that restaurant where he dined this morning with the reverend al sharpton. that of course not an endorsement, although sharpton was also eating breakfast this morning with the former ncacp leader who has backed sanders. coming out and saying he is going to vote for bernie sanders after writing a particularly critical column about sanders' position on reparations for slavery that was something that made the rounds and that was
viewed widely as a very critical critique of sanders standing within the african-american community. now he says he has concerns about the sanders or excuse me the clinton bid being a coronation and surprised that bernie sanders showed the level of strength that he did. and i think that's a lot of what the sanders' campaign is relying on right now. i think it's the x factor when it comes to these voters because they're correct in arguing that the main breakdown for these voters this time around, it hasn't been gender. it hasn't been income level. it's been age. these young voters are overwhelmingly voting for bernie sanders and the question is whether that's going to hold when we hit nevada and south carolina, latino voters, african-american voters. so they know that this is a constituency they do have real work to do, but they are putting it in, as we've seen today. >> it's such an incredible race. you had iowa and new hampshire, predominantly white, almost completely white and now the map
broadens this is the clinton fire wal coming up after the nevada caucuses and he is going right to the heart of that base. thanks so much and reverend al sharpton who had breakfast, as you saw, in those pictures had breakfast with bernie sanders today is going to be joining us in a few moments. stay with us for that. meanwhile, donald trump is redrawing the battle lines against his newest challenge, ohio governor, john kasich. >> i think he is a nice guy, unfortunately going to the airport two days ago i heard a commercial and the commercial was a little bit negative. and i said i wonder who did that commercial, it was a negative commercial on me and it was john kasich. maybe i'm not in love with him as much as i was prior to hearing the commercial. >> here is the thing, you know, somebody wants to mess with me, they're messing with the wrong guy. i'm not going to sit there and be, you know, a marshmallow and have somebody pound me. kerry sanders is in pendleton, south carolina where donald trump will have a rally later today and peter alexander
in mt. pleasant, south carolina is at john kasich's first event today. kerry, first to you, donald trump in victory heading to south carolina and trying to prove that he has the staying power outside of the first couple of states. we know he almost came in first in iowa and had this resounding victory in north carolina. is this -- excuse me, in new hampshire, is this going to propel him into south carolina? >> reporter: well, he believes and his campaign believes they're going to do very well here, in part because south carolina is an unusual state when it comes to how the primaries are held. first of all, it's an open primary, but voters don't register in their specific party. they just register to vote. and that means that democrats can cross over into the republican primary and you're not really sure who is who. there's not like that data necessarily available to the party -- to the campaigns to determine who is who. but they do know that they are
the so-called reagan democrats. the more conservative democrats who donald trump believes and his campaign believes are going to cross over in the primary here in south carolina. the most recent poll, which is dated now in january, so it's a little dated especially coming out of new hampshire, donald trump was leading here 36 over ted cruz at 20. so, donald trump has been doing well in this state. the real question is what impact the evangelical vote will have here as it had in iowa. ted cruz has been doing very strongly with evangelicals, although it's suggested that the evangelical vote here may not be necessarily as strong as it was in iowa and has pronounced as it will be. and finally, donald trump has been speaking a lot about china and how jobs have left and he wants to bring those jobs back to the united states. that will play specifically very well in the area where i am. this is an egrar yan area and former mill town area. a lot of those jobs that left here went over to china.
and the folks here say that they've heard politicians make promises before about bringing people back, but then those jobs don't come back because of special interests and the voters here that are supporting donald trump say that they believe when he says he's going to bring jobs back that he is not beholden to any special interests because he not taking any money. so there's a tendency to want to believe what he says when he talks about bringing jobs back from china. andrea? >> the jobs issue is related to his sport for the the military. jobs and the military closely connected. south carolina a huge military state, but going to peter alexander, who has been flying in with kasich and talking to the kasich people, famously the republican primaries in south carolina are brutal. that's where the late lee atwater became famous. that's where john mccain ran right into the george w. bush operation and all the rumor and innuendo that accompanied that campaign. what do you see happening among
the republicans in south carolina and this is going to be an all-out dog fight, not just between trump and kasich. is kasich ready for that kind of heat? >> reporter: i think you're exactly right. the only name i would add is remember what newt gingrich did to mitt romney in this state four years ago. john kasich is well familiar with the situation here. he knows south carolina well. there's a lot of ohio transplants who live in this state. what's important to note is while we're here in his first event a big crowd at a pizza place, he'll arrive momentarily, this is a state that doesn't reward retail politicking as much as it does the influential air waves. john kasich acknowledged to me in private when we were speaking before he took the stage last night and again speaking to reporters as i flew down on the plane last night is that overnight a switch was flipped. they had no attention to a ton of attention right away. they recognized one of the real challenges immediately is to raise money, not so much to compete in this state because as
they would sell it, they're not that much of an expectation they'll perform well here but to keep them going into the states where they think they can make a difference, states like michigan, ohio in the middle of march, illinois and pennsylvania, states like that as we get into the states where delegates are rewarded and a winner take all type of basis. but john kasich is a candidate who says he'll fight back as he heard if he gets attacked. right now he is anticipating he'll hear it from the jeb bush's campaign and jeb bush's allies at right to rise. he says if that happens he'll be prepared to go back at him. i think i'm on to something with this positive campaign, andrea. he is viewing himself as this happy warrior and really never seen him as happy as we did last night. >> peter alexander, thank you very much. boy what a race you have on your hands. coming up, breakfast with bernie. reverend al sharpton joining me right here after meeting with the big new hampshire primary winner. you're watching "andrea mitchell
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♪ bernie sanders flying high after a landslide victory in new hampshire met with the reverend al sharpton for breakfast in harlem at sylvia's famous restaurant as sanders tries to broaden his appeal to the democratic base. minority voters beyond predominantly new hampshire white voter. >> you are now moving into nevada and south carolina. how do you intend, because clearly new hampshire and iowa are mostly white states if not literally white, how do you intend now to deal with a diverse populous in both south carolina and nevada? >> well, in a couple of ways.
first of all, we are going to do well when voter turnout is high. that's what happened in new hampshire and actually happened in iowa as well. and i think we have the issues, we have the agenda, we have the ground troops to rally the people of nevada and south carolina. and i think it comes down to two things. number one, it comes down to what we believe and what we are fighting for economically and what we're fighting for in terms of social justice and criminal justice. in terms of economics, the people of nevada as well as any state in this country know what wall street has done to them. they were devastated by the wall street crash. and our view is that at the end of the day it is time for the american people to tell wall street enough is enough. you have a handful of banks with incredible economic and political power, you know what teddy roosevelt good republican would have done if he were here,
break them up. that's what we have to do. you have to raise the minimum wage to a living wage, 15 bucks an hour. third of all, we need health care in the united states for all people as is the case in every other industrialized country. fourth, we need to make public colleges and universities tuition free. we need to create job. we need to ask the wealthy and the powerful to start paying their fair share of taxes. we have an economic plan that makes sense. we are working very, very hard on immigration reform, path to citizenship. we have the agenda in nevada and south carolina that once the word gets out, who i am, what we stand for, we're going to do just fine. >> bernie sanders with the reverend al sharpton, of politics nation. the entire interview will be airing on sunday at 8:00 a.m. the reverend al joins me now. tell me about this meeting and what you were looking to hear from bernie sanders. >> well, they wanted to meet and
i suggested we meet at sylvia's. i wanted to meet with him first to talk about my concerns in terms of what was going to happen to people of color. we're now leaving new hampshire and iowa, which were not diverse states in terms of race. and what is your agenda? for that matter, mrs. clinton, when it comes to the issues that affect us, income inequality is a huge issue but economically inside is the racial difference. how do you deal with that, senator sanders? how do you deal with criminal justice system? how do you deal with flint, michigan? and i also said to him that mrs. clinton is meeting with the heads of national civil rights organizations next tuesday, would he also meet with all of us? which he agreed to do. and i think he wanted to send a signal that he's reaching out the morning after when many people would be jubilant, he came to harlem and had breakfast for me and i later taped him for
"politics nation" for sunday morning as i talking to secretary clinton also. because my concern, andrea, is as the first time in american history a black leeing the white house at the end of this year, that black concerns are not leaving with it. whoever inhabits that white house must continue to give priority to the racial inequality in this country. >> in the past bernie sanders has explained that he marched with dr. king. he was at the march on washington. he supported civil rights at the university of chicago, led a boycott at the university segregated housing. do you sense that he understands the complexities of this -- of the african-american community now in 2016 coming from vermont and representing an all-white constituency? >> i think that's his challenge to communicate. i will note he said to me this morning that he's calling for the governor of michigan to
resign because of what's happening in flint. that's today. he talked about police misconduct. and i think that it is his job and mrs. clinton's job to convince the voters. i don't think they're kingpins. none of us deliver votes. we can advise people if we decide to endorse -- i've not endorsed anyone at this point, but i think they've got to sell their credentials, their sensitivity and their background. our job is to make sure they have to deal with the issues and that's what this morning was about for me. >> the clinton team has said all along that south carolina, where there are so many african-americans in the democratic primary electorate, that's her fire wall because that's the community she feels connected to, in contrast she believes to bernie sanders. she talked to you. i wanted to play a little bit of that. >> we go to nevada then to south carolina. nevada is a caucus state. are you going to retool or do
anything different in this caucus state than iowa? >> well, we're going to work really hard just as we did in iowa. we've got a great team on the ground. we have a really broad, diverse group of supporters. i was pleased to be endorsed recently by a number of dreamers. so we're going to just reach out and spend as much time as possible answering questions and making the case as to why i would be the best president for not only nevada but america. >> what is your response to her? you know her well. >> well, i mean, she certainly has raised these issues down through her career. she was a senator in new york, but she again is going to have to make that argument in south carolina and nevada. she says she's prepared to do that. and i think that it is a good thing for black and brown americans if they are competed for in terms of their support. no one should take the vote for granted. they must earn our vote, like
they do every other part of the american electorate. and that's what i think the jobs of civil rights leaders is to press our issues out of that, i think we can decide which candidates we support or vote for. >> and you are not endorsing, let's be clear, you're not endorsing -- >> i'm not endorsing at this time anything but that we must have an inclusive agenda in america. the republicans are not even talking about flint or not even talking about criminal justice. the democrats must not only be talking about it, they must be specific and deal with policies. that's what my mission is at this stage. >> reverend al, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> thanks for sharing. you can watch "politics nation" right here on msnbc on sundays 8:00 a.m. the entire interview with hillary clinton as well as of course more from bernie sanders. coming up, the winning formula, how did donald trump and bernie sanders run the table in new hampshire? we'll go inside the numbers next on "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc, the place for politics. incredible bladder protection from always discreet
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♪ and let's look past the headlines from tuesday night and dig into that exit poll data for the strengths of both winners and the weaknesses and the realities facing candidates trying to beat bernie sanders and donald trump in nevada and south carolina, the primaries and caucuses to come. joining me now is nbc news election director, john la pinsky and chris sa lyssa. all of you are numbers guys. let's look first at the democrats. >> sure. >> when you look at the breakdown between bernie sanders and hillary clinton, what jumps out at you is right away gender, that he got women voters 55-44 over her and when you drill down into that -- the age issues, he overwhelmingly got young women voters, if we can look at the next screen and she got the older. >> look, i mean -- >> only 65 and older. >> i think that it is really, really interesting.
i mean, i think nobody would have fully expected for bernie to do as well with gender. we saw in iowa how he sort of won the youth vote in ways we just haven't seen before. you just don't see those sorts of splits. >> then in new hampshire it was just ratified. >> it konded. it's a trend. the question right now i think we have is to see, how important that age is versus gender especially when we go to south carolina. remember, when we're looking at iowa and new hampshire, this is -- these are states that essentially all white. that's going to be really interesting when you bring race into that equation. so we know -- the question is when you actually look at younger african-american voters in south carolina and when we look at latinos in nevada, you know, the question is that going to actually have a moderating effect? >> and chris alyssa, when you look at these numbers, how did her message not resonate with women and what is the tune-out with younger women and younger voters in general? >> well, there's a big circle between age and gender, at least
when you lose 18 to 29-year-olds by 70 points which she essentially did, 83-16 was the final number. you're going to lose every demographic group that touches on that, young women. the women number more broadly, andrea, i feel like it's a deja vu situation all over again in some ways. i remember you and i talking about this in 2008, she wasn't running front and center as the first female president and what that could mean. the only story line that was out there was the madeline albright comments were not the best way that the clinton would have liked that message presented. so i think doing that, it is a stunning thing no matter how much bernie sanders won by 22 points, and it is a stunning thing that a woman who is running to be the first woman to be a democratic or any party's
nominee and be the first woman president loses women by so many points. >> what do people care most about? bernie sanders got 91% of those who care about want an outsider, 86% who care about -- who think that he cares about people like them and honesty was a huge issue. >> well, look, it tells me that three things have come true that are very dangerous for the clinton campaign. the first is that the various e-mail controversies, attacking her credibility have had an effect even in her base. it tells us that gender as a rallying cry which she cloaked herself in is not as potent as she wants and it tells us that young people don't like being told by older people who to vote and who they ought to be with. that is a problem i think. it was a problem as chris pointed out with madeline albright in recent days.
it's not going to work. >> and john, when you look at the republican side, what is the most important factor and the late deciders in new hampshire, what does that tell you? >> yeah. i mean, it's really interesting in the sense of when you think about the late deciders, especially when you look not necessarily at first place but a little bit more sort of down ballot. >> where the race got really interesting. >> exactly. everybody was thinking, well, what was the effect of rubio's debate performance, right? well, we now see where he is sort of in the order. what you see -- this is very different from the democratic and the republican side, there were a lot of republicans deciding at the last minute. on the democratic side is what is interesting is most people decided a month before, right? so basically there was a sanders' lock-in there. again, very different dynamics across the two races. >> chris alyssa also talking about the republicans, the key groups for donald trump, the exit poll tells us people who he tells it like he is, he is outside the establishment, immigration a majority but less
so but 44% like the muslim ban. that's pretty striking. >> yep. look, it seems very clear, as soon as you saw some of the early exit polling just on issues not even the head-to-head or the major primary matchup, andrea, i thought this is an electorate that looks very good for donald trump. he did -- this was the message he wants. this is the message he believes he can win on, which is exactly what you ran through, outsider, tells it like it is, the muslim ban i think is tied into that. he talked about immigration and trade. he will talk, i would guess, he would be smart to talk a lot about trade in south carolina in the coming days and weeks. look, i think the most important thing about this, andrea, we have donald trump coming in second and first in the first two votes. no other candidate has done that, ted cruz first and third, we're talking about jeb bush with momentum, according to the jeb people, he came in sixth and then fourth. so, we overlooked donald trump at our own parel.
he reasserted his very strong grip either as the favorite or cofavorite along with ted cruz in the race. >> nick and john, south carolina is next for the republicans. the democrats go through nevada first. in south carolina, you've got a completely different electorate, first of all, the democratic vie mare voters are largely african-americans, a lot of older women, on the republican side, a lot of military, very conservative, more evangelicals certainly were in new hampshire. what does that tell you about the chances here? >> look, it's almost good for trump because it's not as evangelical as iowa and he did very well in iowa. i do think what the results show in new hampshire and they eventually show in south carolina is that personalities is really trumping policy on the republican side. you saw those characteristics, people want it tells it like it is. it's not important what he is saying is how he is saying it. that is something that traverses all these voter decides and religion and culture. >> look -- >> go ahead. >> to you john, a question about
that, he in himself in an analysis on the air he said he thought that paris was a turning point because people got worried about terrorism and turned to him as a strong voice, a tough guy. so i don't know how you feel about the terrorism issue, but it's almost that he would say anything, do anything, never apologize, is that sort of the persona that says i'm a tough guy and i will take care of you after paris? >> he certainly thinks that that's the persona that has him win in south carolina, right? it's just like when you look at several of the things he said, the differentiation he made between him and cruz, he put language out there to suggest he is much tougher than ted cruz and i'll just echo what you said, that is a very interesting electorate down in south carolina. remember, trump won the evangelicals last night, 27-23. you know, gingrich did well with the evangelicals in south carolina in 2012. it's interesting. >> well, we have to go but john
lapinskis, thank you all so much. coming up, full-court press. bernie sanders hitting the hard court with his grand kids today. or rather last night. and then with the ladies of "the view" today. so it's bernie and round ball. now it's on to south carolina. he will try to break down the clinton firewall. the south carolina democratic king maker, james clyburn joining us next right here on "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc, the place for politics. this is humira helping to relieve my pain and protect my joints from further damage. this is humira giving me new perspective. doctors have been prescribing humira for ten years. humira works for many adults. it targets and helps to block a specific source of inflammation that contributes to ra symptoms. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis.
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>> well, we'll be meeting with family and friends this weekend when i get down to south carolina and i'll make some decision after that. i won't be making any endorsements today or this week. >> but for the first time there are reports that you are considering an endorsement and there's a lot of pressure on you from clinton world, to endorse because obviously it would have huge sway. if you're going to make a difference, don't you have to do it sooner rather than later and why not right here? >> well, all of that may be true. i have to stay true to south carolina. we have become a preprimary state because we said we would do what we could to make sure that the process was fair and did not get cut off in favor of one person over the other. i've tried to remain true to that. and so going out there early for anybody would not be remaining
true to that process. south carolina is a pretty small state, relatively inexpensive media market and i want all the candidates to come, visit the four different cultures that exist in our state, try out their themes and see whether or not it would be a laboratory for the winner going forward. so that's what we argued and we argued it successfully. i don't want to do anything to destroy that. >> but you're not ruling out an endorsement before the election, once you heard from sanders and given everyone fair hearing? >> no, i'm not ruling out an endorsement before the election. i'm just ruling one out for this week. >> okay. and fair enough. well, i wanted to play a little bit of bernie sanders on "the view" today when asked about bill clinton and the attack mode that he went on, at least for part of this campaign on sunday in particular. >> i was disappointed in
president clinton. i've known him for 25 years and i like him and i respect him and i hope that this campaign does not degenerate into really -- >> he is fighting for his wife. >> right, i understand that. but nonetheless, let's keep it on the issues, not making personal attacks. >> i agree. >> and now to take you down memory lane, this was bill clinton in 2008, comment about barak obama that you took. let's play that. >> it's wrong that senator obama got to go through 15 debates trumpeting his superior judgment and he had bet against the war in every year, give me a break. this whole thing is the biggest fairy tale i've ever seen. >> now, you've had difficulty with bill clinton and clinton world in the past. in your mem water, you wrote, you want to fight, you'll get one shouted into the phone to you after you switched to obama. so what is your relationship with the clintons, and are you
going to be -- are you going to be part of this effort, this national effort to create a firewall against bernie sanders? what do you see happening in south carolina? >> well, i'm not going to answer the second question yet. >> what about the first part? >> the first part of that question is it's a pleasant relationship. i've seen bill clinton several times within the last eight years. i spoke with hillary clinton last week. i saw her at a fish fry. we sat together at a funeral, so there's no animosity between the two of us. campaigns have a way of arousing emotions, especially when a spouse is involved. i understand that. i've been married for 54 years. my lord, i know how emotional it can get when a spouse is being challenged, no matter if the spouse is right or wrong. >> now, i interviewed one of
your proed jays, one of the rising young leaders there, and he told me a couple weeks ago he was surprised at how effective bernie sanders fledgling organize was in south carolina. how do you assess his ground game right now? >> well, it's very effective, i think. i think i may have mentioned to you that when i got home several weeks ago i was surprised at how efficient and effective his ground operations seem to be. and so, i've had that discussion. and james is right, they have a pretty potent ground operation going on in south carolina. and i'm pleased to see that. i believe very strongly, i have seven hbcus in my district that spent a lot of time on those campuses, the citadel, the university of south carolina, columbia college, medical
university of south carolina are all in my district, so to see these kind of activity on those college campuses is very, very pleasing to me. >> and congressman, hillary clinton has had such a long record and has worked so hard on south carolina and on the african-american issues, but it was interesting to note in her campaign manager's note that came out right at 8:00 a.m. as the polls closed and the networks were all declaring bernie sanders, the victor, the projected winner, he said that march, the first 15 days of march, will determine who gets this nomination and that is delegate rich 1870 delegates in those 15 days alone, 900 on super tuesday on march 1st, is he or she or they beginning to think they may not win in south carolina and nevada for that matter? >> oh, i don't know about that. but i think no matter who wins south carolina, i think that is
correct. i think super tuesday is march 1st. i think there's another super delegate-rich day coming up around the 15th of march. and certainly i believe by the end of march real definition will take place in this campaign. i think coming out of south carolina you may recall barak obama won south carolina. it gave him a tremendous boost, but it did not win it for him. the battle took place right on up until june and it was not until montana and i believe south dakota when he got to the necessary magic number to win the nomination. definition will come in march, but they certainly will not be determined in march. >> is this going to go all the way until june this time? >> oh, i think so. i think it could very well do that, unless something catastrophic outside of the political process were to take
place. i think it could go right up until june. >> congressman jim clyburn, thank you as always. when you're ready to make a decision on endorsement, you know where to come. >> thank you very much. i appreciate you. coming up, is governor chris christie about to fold his presidential campaign? what we're hearing from new jersey next on "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. e know hy your life can be. oh no this mom didn't have time to worry about a cracked windshield. so she scheduled at safelite.com and with safelite's exclusive "on my way text" she knew exactly when i'd be there. hi, steve with safelite. thanks for your text! i replaced her windshield... and she didn't miss a single shot giving you more time for what matters most. how'd ya do? we won! nice! that' another safelite advantage. thank you so much! (team sing) ♪safelite repair, safelite replace.♪ i tabut with my back paines, i couldn't sleep and get up in time. then i found aleve pm.
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what do you think is happening with chris christie? >> yeah. well, we haven't confirmed anything, andrea. there's all sorts of chatter out there right now about what's going to happen later today or maybe tomorrow. we know obviously he'll be reassessing when he gets back. we're trying to track down he is still in the state, we believe, at least within the last hour we believe he was up here. not sure on his exact status at this moment. i do know just talking to people and calling around, e-mailing around to people in trenton there is a wide expectation, as i imagine there is in the national political world, but a wide expectation in trenton that he is coming back for good, that he will not be going back on the presidential campaign trail. lot of different reactions of the possibility down in trenton, but that seems to be the universal expectation down there. >> if he were to drop out, it would likely be in trenton, at home base. he has to rebuild -- build some bridges, no pun intended back with the people back home. he has been away a lot. >> it's an interesting
situation, andrea. because if he does end the presidential campaign and return to his job as governor of new jersey, he has nearly two years left on that term. the term would end at the end of 2017. his approval rating in new jersey is low and has been low for a while now. he has alienated, there are a lot of people in the political game in trenton, this includes republicans. he has alienated a lot of political people in trenton with this presidential campaign, with the amount of time he has spent away from new jersey with some of the actions he has tang, some of the legislation he has vetoed trying to make a name for himself with the conservative movement nationally. there are a lot of hard feelings among people in trenton. at the same time, you hear he may have some hard feelings towards some people in new jersey, believing they weren't necessarily too helpful to his presidential effort. new jersey is the most powerful governorship constitutionally in america. chris christie would come back with about two years left on his term a lot of power, know election to run again.
so there's a lot of people in trenton wondering what he will do with that power in the last two years. >> two years is a lifetime in politics, but money is an issue and he won't qualify for the next debate and the debate stage is where he really shines. so that's part of the oxygen he really needs to keep going. thank you, steve. you're all over the story. coming up, fixer upper, does hillary clinton need a retool or a complete remodel? that's up next. you're watching msnbc the place for politics. a heart attack can happen without warning. if you've had a heart attack, a bayer aspirin regimen can help prevent another one. be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. bayer aspirin. i'm in charge of it all. business expenses, so i've been snapping photos of my receipts and keeping track of them in quickbooks. now i'm on top of my expenses, and my bees. best 68,000 employees ever. that's how we own it.
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♪ and there's only a little over a week to go bv bernie sanders and hillary clinton face off in the nevada caucuses. they debate tomorrow night in milwaukee. not much time for clinton to regroup. joining me now from new hampshire, alex siets wald. alex, clinton world in disarray. they've got to come up with a new message, there's talk of a new stratestist.
what are they doing aside retreating back home? >> right, andrea. they saw this loss coming and they knew it was going to happen, but i think it was bigger than they expected and i think it's no fun to lose by 22 points in a state you won that launched your husband's political career. i did sense a bit of a new message coming from clinton's speech last night which i heard from aids was coming, focuses on the impact she'll have on people's life. they moved around from so many different messages. remember the four fights i haven't heard that in forever. that was supposed to be the whole campaign at the beginning. you know, we're moving into a stage where the campaign is about to expand dramatically. they're going to be bringing on more people. they'll be moving people from the early states to headquarters and around the country and there will inevitably be changes in power dynamics and roles and responsibilities. whether there's an overt shakeup remains to be seen.
it will happen more behind closed doors. one aid joked to me yesterday if they got layered they would be okay with that because they could use the extra sleep. >> they could also use a better decision process. we heard her talking about wall street. we heard her moving her message almost as an echo of the points that sanders has been making. that can backfire also, if it makes her seem less authentic. i've been struck by the fact that she relied so much on biography, playing the video about how consistently she had been all along from college days on, working for people, rather than talking to younger people about what she should do for them and not elaborating on her college planning. she has a lot of policies out there, but she doesn't really explain them on the stump. >> absolutely. when you talk to people and you ask them why do you like hillary clinton, why are you supporting her, the things that come up are experience, that she is the first woman president but there's still no clear message
of why she should be president and why she is running for president. we need one clear message. >> and the honesty thing was really devastating result from the exits. we'll have a lot more coming up here on msnbc. join me tonight. that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." follow the show online, on facebook and on twitter @mitchellreports. chris jansing up next on msnbc, the place for politics. staying in rhythm... it's how i try to live... how i stay active. so i need nutrition... that won't weigh me down. for the nutrition you want without the calories you don't... try boost® 100 calories. each delicious snack size drink gives you... 25 vitamins and minerals and 10 grams of protein.
and today the perceived democratic front-runner is regrouping in a state she won in 2008 but took a huge loss this time here. and donald trump leads new hampshire with a resounding victory today, winning the state by more than a two to one margin over his nearest competition, a confident john kasich. >> somebody wants to mess with me, they're messing with the wrong guy. i'm not going to sit there and be a marshmallow and have somebody pound me. my two daughters said, daddy, we think you won because we're not so sure that mr. trump will last. but, look, we'll see what happens. >> the new hampshire results transformed this race. it is tight. bernie sanders 22-point margin of victory gets him strongly into the delegate race against clinton. and john kasich's second place finish puts him in the log jam to be donald trump's main