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>> thank you. hillary attacks republican obstructionists. let's play "hardball." good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. it didn't take long for the political battle to start over filling justice scalia's seat. what is less than zero? the chances of obama successfully appointing a supreme court justice to replace scalia, within minutes of the justice's death. mitch mcconnell said in part, the american people should have a voice in the selection of their next supreme court justice. therefore, this vacancy should not be filled until we have a new president. senator chuck grassley, the chair of the judiciary committee said given the huge divide in the country and this president above all others to use the court to circumvent congress, it
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only makes sense that we defer to the american people who will elect a new president to select the next supreme court justice. and senator ted cruz told chuck todd on "meet the press" he would stop any nominee at all from even being considered. >> doesn't the united states have an obligation to at least go through the process and have an up or down vote? >> not remotely. particularly when the court is 5-4, is balanced, an obama liberal nominee -- >> i understand that. why not go through the process? shouldn't the united states senate do its duty and go through the process? reject it, senator, but go through the process. >> by the way, the senate's duty is to advise and consent. you know what, the senate is advising right now. we're advising that a lame duck president in an election year is not going to be able to dip the balance of the supreme court. >> i'm joined on the phone by hillary clinton. madam secretary, thanks for joining us. the republican approach to this
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open court seat, now seems to be no confirmation, no vote, no even hearing. not even any hearings. nada. they don't even want to talk about filling the seat of justice scalia. >> well, chris, i find that's the hype of irony. justice scalia was known for his strict interpretation of the constitution. so i find it hard to understand the republicans wanting to blatantly ignore the constitution, in replacing him. article 2, section 2 of the constitution clearly says it's the president's job to nominate justices to the supreme court with the advise and consent of the senate, the constitution doesn't say wait a year and hope for a president of a different party. and trying to flaunt the constitution is a funny way for the republicans to be honoring justice scalia's memory and legacy. and there are huge issues at stake. the supreme court's in the middle of considering the
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president's executive order to let dreamers say in the country. that's essential. over 1 million young people, they're considering the very burdensome restrictions placed on women's reproductive decisions. that could affect millions of women. they're going to have a big impact deciding the fate of president obama's plan to cut greenhouse gas pollution and address climate change. so i think the supreme court deserves nine justices. and i think we should demand that the senate do its duty, and receive and act on whoever the president nominates. >> let me ask you about your position about appointing supreme court justices should you be elected president. sanders said he would put a litmus test. it must be someone who wants to get rid of citizens united. where are you on that? >> well, i had hoped that anybody i appoint would understand the grave damage that citizens united is doing to our democracy. i think we need to appoint supreme court justices who are
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living in the, you know, the real give-and-take of the world, and can see with their own eyes how some of the decisions, whether it's voting rights, or citizens united, made by this court are having very pernicious effect. i would be looking for people who understood that. >> would you set that as what we call a litmus test? in other words, talk to the possible nominee and say, i want to know where you stand on getting rid of citizens united as a prerequisite to naming them? would it be a litmus test? >> look, i'll be talking in detail with anybody that i appoint. it's not just that decision, i have a whole range of decisions that i think are really important. so yeah, it would factor very much into who i nominated. >> are you satisfied with -- no supreme court decision is perfect, but are you satisfied with roe v. wade? would you say, that's where i'm at?
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>> yes, absolutely, chris. i mean, there is no doubt that that decision recognized the rights of women to make these really difficult choices. and it is as close as i think we could ever get to, you know, making it clear that there can be restrictions after a certain point, so long as the life and health of the mother are taken into effect. and i think it has been a decision that, you know, has been important to the constitutional rights of women. but i also think that because it was premised on, you know, women making their own choices, there's plenty of room for women to make whichever choice they so choose to make. and that's how it should be in our country. >> the reason i raise that, i know your position is pro-choice
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all these years. i just was amazed at senator rubio saying in one of the debates the other night that you supported abortion right up until the date of birth. i don't know what he meant by that exactly. that wouldn't be your position -- that's not roe v. wade. roe v. wade has restrictions on the final trimester. >> absolutely. i don't know what he was talking about. i'm not sure he knew what he was talking about. he is moving as far to the right as he possibly can get. but roe is very clear that if you take into account the life and health of the mother, there can be exceptions to restrictions that are imposed that are lawful, constitutional. >> one last question. let me ask you about this other rubio charge. he said that president clinton, bill clinton was responsible for 9/11. did you know his logic -- he has a lonlic, he said because the president had the chance to kill bin laden. >> yeah. >> and -- >> well, and as you remember,
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you know, yes. there was an effort to kill him. based on the intelligence that was available. missiles struck what we thought to be a training camp. it wasn't like there wasn't an effort. the original group that was set up to, you know, monitor and go after al qaeda and bin laden dates to those years. so again, i -- i see somebody like senator rubio just twisting himself into pretzels trying to appeal to the, you know, the base of his party, to try to say things that have no common sense, or merit to them. you know, he has to run his campaign, but it's kind of a sad commentary. >> thank you so much, secretary clinton, for coming on tonight on "hardbal." >> thank you. good to talk to you. bye-bye. >> we have a call out to bernie sanders for his views. more on the political battle
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ahead. an msnbc political analyst. i guess it's no surprise they all agree on the usual litmus test. >> yeah, no surprise. we know what supreme court nominations are all about. they're basically about protecting our turf. it's true for both parties. >> george will who writes in your paper, obsessed with the idea that speech, that money is speech. >> right. >> every day he writes a column, he must have a tickleer file, writes thoer column saying, if you've got $1 billion, that's your vote. >> right. and i personally would disagree with that. but yeah, there's that point of view. certainly justice scalia's point of view that you couldn't distinguish the money from the speech. i don't see why not. you know -- >> we did for a long time. >> you could argue whether corporations are people. but dollars certainly aren't people. >> cruz argued president obama should allow the next president to fill the vacancy.
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the next president. saying elections have consequences. but not the election we had in 2012. let's watch this. this is ridiculous. >> this is a 5-4 court. this next election needs to be a referendum on the court, the people need to decide, and i'm very glad that the senate is agreeing with what i called for, that we should not allow lame duck president to essentially capture the supreme court in the waning months of his presidency. if the democrats want to replace this nominee, they need to win the election. >> but people elected president obama, didn't they? >> they did. but that was three years ago. elections have consequences. the people also gave us a republican senate this last election because they were fed up with barack obama's lawlessness. >> huh. well, the word lame duck seems to kick in, what, a day after you were inaugurated the second time? >> i thought it was after the new guy or dpal was elected. elections do have consequences. president obama was reelected.
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he was chosen as the guy to name the supreme court justices for the next four years, not the next three years. >> the staff member, within minutes of hearing that justice scalia had passed away, he's dead, cold, before he was even cold, before the last rites apparently they're out there saying, it ain't going to happen. why don't they want to go through the process? why don't they let the president name this fella, or a woman, or any of them, let them go through the process. it will be around june. and they'll have a vote. and they won't get 60. >> and then we move on. i don't understand that. unless it's just sort of the knee-jerk reaction. you know, the republican playbook has been to stake out the maximalist position. they don't even nominate. >> suppose somebody comes out and these people, one is very impressive, comes from an indian
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background, and this fella, he comes out and really impresses everybody. he zooms through. everything works. the public says we really like this guy. we don't have a problem with him. is that what they're afraid of? >> i guess they're afraid of something like that happening. or look embarrassing. in the end they're determined not to approve somebody. that puts them in a difficult position. this stance potentially puts republican senators in blue states in a very difficult position. after all, do your job. do your job. >> we're going to learn things, all these great people that could be a member of the supreme court, we're going to wonder why not one of them gets a chance to be heard. i think they're going to get hurt on this, the republicans. this is obstructionism pure and simple. you don't even have a debate, no hearing. >> president obama is going to nominate somebody.
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>> maybe we'll have to put them on "meet the press." thank you, gene. coming up much more on the ep pick battle to replace justice scalia. for senate republicans, to actually obstruct president obama's pick could backfire big-time. they're not following the constitution. as hillary clinton said tonight, it says in article 2 of the constitution, it's a job of the president to appoint the guy or woman. donald trump bruising and cruising. he said ted cruz is a liar and filing a lawsuit over cruz over his candy birth. anyway, as former president george w. bush campaigns alongside his brother jeb, as trump says, the former president actually didn't keep us safe on 9/11. how is that going to play down in south carolina. anyway, trump's holding a party in greenville tonight. we'll be watching that. and our top foreign correspondent richard engel, what a heroic guy is, has witnessed personally the rise of isis very close up. now in his new book, and then
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all hell broke loose. he writes about what it's going to take to beat isis. finally let me finish with a short list of powerful reasons to pick a winner in this year's presidential election, has to do with the court. this is "hardball," a place for politics.
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republican front-runner donald trump spoke the most in saturday's gop debate on cbs. he clocked in at more than 15 minutes. actually 15 1/2 minutes of talk time, followed by ted cruz, then jeb bush, marco rubio, and ben carson was the quietest. marco rubio won the night winning nearly a third of the vote. donald trump came in second. jeb bush dead last with just 5%. wow.
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we'll be right back.
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far too many republicans don't care about the court, don't invest political capital in it, and it's why so many republican nominees have turned out to be disasters. to the veterans in south carolina, your second amendment rights are hanging in the balance. justice scalia's, his biggest decision the heller decision, 5-4, upholding the right to keep and bear arms. if an dlishl liberal justice goes to the court, we're one justice away from the second amendment being written out. >> welcome. that was texas senator ted cruz using the supreme court vacancy left by the death of antonin scalia, to rally conservatives to his side just before the crucial south carolina primary down there on saturday. it will be a high stakes game for both democrats and republicans and for their allies and big interest groups on both sides. a member of the senate judiciary committee that holds hearings
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for the nominations. he also served on the supreme court as a clerk for justice harry blackman. also argued before the supreme court. you're a triple threat here, senator. thank you for coming. what kind of member of the minority on the judiciary committee now, how can you -- the president's going to name somebody to the supreme court to fill a vacancy of justice scalia. what do members of the committee, or democrats do to push it to at least hearings? can you? >> i think that you really identified the key factor here, chris, earlier in your exchange with gene robinson. there will be a nominee, a voice and face, presumably a good, decent person with clear intellect and integrity. and the very strong burden will shift to the majority leader, and to my republican colleagues. why not give him or her a hearing. why not a vote. and remember that there are some pretty critical issues before
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this court that matter to people's lives. like voting rights. like labor rights. women's health care rights. affirmative action in immigration issues. those are extremely consequential in people's lives. and for some of my colleagues to simply say, no, and advocate and ab bro indicate their constitutional duty is -- >> let's go to the immediate case. we know about the number of abortion facilities down in texas has been greatly restricted by the need to have admission of rights at hospitals and all that. that will be pushed aside, right? the other one, all the executive orders on immigration, helping the dreamer kids and all of those coming in the country, making them safe here, all that's up in the air, right? if we don't have a full court? >> all of it is up in the air, chris. and a 4-4 decision will not be a decision. in fact, it sends the case back without a decision, and leaves standing cases wrongly decided,
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in my view, that will really hurt people. and so there's a duty to fill that vacancy, to make the system work, our constitutional system depends on nine members serving on the supreme court why there's never been a vacancy in the last, i think 30 years, lasting more than 237 days. the president had 339 left. and there has never been a vacancy lasting two terms. every appointee has received a hearing and a vote within 100 days. and the reason is, quite simply, there's a constitutional system, and a duty in place. >> last point, partisan observation. if the republicans get this thing stalled all through this year, and there's a vacancy running through the next inauguration of the next president, they get four years then to screw around and finally get someone they want, right?
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they will end up with a majority in the court of conservatives? >> elections have consequences, as you observed earlier. but so does obstructionism. and i think it will strike a very powerful chord among the american people, not just democrats, but the independents, and unaffiliated voters who are already saying, why can't washington work -- why can't you get things done, and why do we have this gridlock and partisan paralysis in washington? if it affects the court, a vital nonpolitical institution of our government and drags that court into the morass of presidential politics, i think it's regrettable for the respect for the court. i think the american people will make sure it has consequences. >> thanks so much, senator richard blumenthal from connecticut. joining me is law professor tribe. thank you for joining us. >> my pleasure. >> what do you make of the
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republican position which began before the chief justice had his last rites? i've never seen anything like that. a staffer had the hutzpah to say there will be no confirmation. i don't know how they -- i guess they know the dna of their bosses. >> they have pretended, i think ted cruz said this is historic precedent. in the last 80 years he claimed, this is the rule, when a president in the last year of his term is asked to fill a vacancy, the senate says we won't consider anyone. that's just not true. in the last 104 years, in the last 104 years, six times this has occurred, where there was a vacancy created by a resignation or a death. in the last year of the president's term, and all six times, the president nominated someone, and that person was confirmed. either in ten days or less, or in one case because of anti-semitism, it took months to
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get brandice confirmed. ronald reagan was the most recent, he got kennedy confirmed in something like three months. so the republicans are just making up history, and ignoring, as secretary clinton and senator blumenthal pointed out, ignoring a constitutional obligation. >> let me tell you about this -- let's talk about how stalling works. we know how the legislative processes play with the clock. people wait until the last minute to jam in their stuff to get what they want. they play basically kidnapping of legislation. here we have the kidnapping of a presidential appointee. if the next president comes in and it's cruz, you can predict cruz's appointments. rubio would be hard to predict. and trump would be hard to predict. they would appoint a pro-life justice. undue burden down in texas now. those are judgment calls it seems to me.
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>> they are. you can say you believe in originalism and textualism. but in all of these cases, there are different ways of reading the original meaning of the constitution. and there are deep judgment calls. that's why elections have consequences. and the astonishing thing is for the republicans to say the people should choose, as though they are entitled to say that barack obama never was a legitimate president. and i've heard that from a lot of them. they just can't accept the idea of, frankly, his african-american president being legitimate. and i think that in the end, whether they are to the left or to the right, people are going to rebel against that. the way they rebelled really against fdr's idea of packing the court. this is a kind of court unpacking. it's not just, you know, holding the president and his nominees hostage, it's holding the country and its highest court hostage. it's shameful. >> not all the conservatives --
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professor, a certain subset of the people in the hard right cannot understand the idea that their kids and grand kids are going to pick up a picture book of presidents and sea barack obama in the list. >> i'm afraid that's true. >> they want to be able to put an asterisk next to him, or here illegally or something. it's in the polling, if you don't believe me. thank you, sir, for joining us tonight on this important political night. george w. bush hits the trail for his brother, jeb. as the bushes try to rally down in south carolina, donald trump has unleashed an attack on both bushes. and the guy who could be the biggest rival for the nomination is one of the real corkers of this campaign. this is "hardball," the place for politics.
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what does that mean he kept the country safe after 9/11? in other words, we had this major catastrophe. what does that mean? see, i've heard that for years. you know, i've heard that for years. i've heard for years he kept the country safe after 9/11. what does that mean, after? what about during 9/11? i was there. i lost a lot of friends that were killed in that building. the worst attack ever in this country? it was during his presidency. >> good point. welcome back to "hardball." that was donald trump in a press conference today, doubling down on his attack on former president george w. bush who campaigned tonight in south carolina alongside his brother, jeb. anyway, the bush/trump got heated at saturday night. >> obviously the war in iraq was a big fat mistake. all right? now, you can take it any way you want. and it took jeb bush, if you remember at the beginning of his
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announcement, when he announced his presidency, took him five days, he went back. it wasn't a mistake. we can make mistakes. but that one was a beauty. woe should never have been in iraq. we have destabilized the middle east i want to tell you, they lied. there were weapons of mass instruction. there were none. and they knew there were none. there were no weapons of mass destruction. >> all right. governor bush? >> jeb fought back when trump kept the hits coming, questioning whether bush 43 kept the country safe given september 11th did come on w.'s watch. >> i'm sick and tired of barack obama blaming my brother for all of the problems that he's had. [ cheers and applause ] and frankly, i could care less about the insults that donald trump gives to me. it's blood sport for him. he enjoys it and i'm glad he's happy about it. i am sick and tired of him going after my family.
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my dad is the greatest man alive in my mind. [ cheers and applause ] and while donald trump was building a reality tv show, my brother was building a security apparatus to keep us safe. and i'm proud of what he did. [ cheers and applause ] >> the world trade center came down during your brother's reign. >> hold on. let me finish. he has the gall to go after my mother. >> they can't handle the truth. a few of us forget condoleezza rice's testimony before the 9/11 commission when she acknowledged warnings of a possible terrorist attack inside the u.s. this is what the republicans often don't want to look at. here it is. >> isn't it a fact, dr. rice, that the august 6 pdb warned against possible attacks in this country? and i ask you whether you recall the title of that pdp? >> i believe the title was bin laden determined to attack
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inside the united states. >> i call that a warning. anyway, joining the "hardball" round table, this is written for you, this story, opinion writer with the "washington post." abby phillips, and paul singer. this is amazing stuff. i think it's just too hard. i think trump may have overstepped. republicans in south carolina are unlikely to accept the fact that george w. bush, w. as we fondly call him, or unfondly, really was president when we were hit on 9/11. he wasn't just president the friday after when he put his arm around the guy and said we will get the guy who knocked down these walls. but in the days before and months before, if a democrat had been president, i contend, there would have been treason trial. because they would never forget a democrat for what happened in new york. that's why i don't mind trump going after w. in this thing. >> no, this is sort of the
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monster that they created. you know, it is a little bit zany -- >> by the way, cheney was vice president, too, when we got hit. >> he's going further than just blaming bush. he's saying bush knew specifically about this attack. bush knew there were no weapons in iraq. >> he said bush knew about the attack? there was a warning. >> but he's saying they knew about this. i mean, in fairness -- >> that's true. >> right, we have a birther, so it's not surprising he's a truther. this isn't about left/right liberal conservative. the guy has run amok. i've predicted before he's gone too far, and at every point, he's not gone too far. but it would seem that -- >> is this waterloo? >> you're siding with a far left conspiracy theory, in the very conservative state of south carolina. >> do they come up to you in building 7? walk around. you'll get to building 7. >> it is remarkable you've got a
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republican candidate and a republican debate essentially quoting the bush lied people died bumper sticker from the left. >> let's get a little tamer here. i have an assumption, check me oon this, abby, the big three of the trump appeal arm, they're really for working class people, mostly whites. but working class people. number one, the good jobs are going to china. good factory jobs used to pay 20 bucks an hour or whatever. and our kids are fighting stupid wars that had nothing to do with our national interests, being redeployed, sent back into action. we're the ones paying the price. when trump attacks -- when trump attacks iraq, he wins with that crowd. they like that position. >> i think that's right. i think the folks we're talking about here are not necessarily the people who are eager to stick up for george w. bush as much as they might actually like him. they still feel like the last ten years or so have been kind
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of a waste for them. personally. their financial security, and the country's security at large in the world. >> but he left us in the dumpster. >> i think they think -- >> did they leave us in the dumpster? >> they hear trump saying, this guy didn't put us on the right path and they feel that viscerally in their own lives. as popular as bush is in south carolina, more than 80% approval down there, i think there are plenty of people -- >> w? >> yeah, w, george w. bush is extremely popular, heavily military state. these people are sending their kids to war. >> here's former president george w. bush, you mentioned him, making a rare campaign appearance with his brother, jeb, within the last hour, in north charleston, north carolina. >> strength is not empty rhetoric, it is not bluster, it is not theatrics. real strength comes from integrity and character. and in my experience, the strongest person usually isn't the loudest one in the room.
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[ cheers and applause ] >> talk about it. that's coming from a guy who swaggers when he's sitting down. sorry, look, the whole way he walked in today was swaggering. >> what he said is that we don't need someone who reflects and mirrors the anger and inflames the anger of our people. >> i thought it was a terrific speech. when he's saying labels are for soup kansas his father said. >> you like w now? >> i think w. was terrific. >> you fickle being. >> the problem is, then jeb takes the stage and you go, oh, i kind of like w., but this guy's no good. >> isn't that funny? on "saturday night live," will ferrell came on and said, you thought he was the smart one, right? in the press conference today, trump unloaded on ted cruz. i don't like this word, liar and unstable. >> i think ted's a very unstable guy. we put out a little release. did you get the release, john? i think he's a very unstable
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guy. i haven't been doing this long. i've been in it since june 16th. but i'll tell you, i have never, ever met a person that lies more than ted cruz. and he goes around saying he's a christian. i don't know. you'll have to really study that. we will bring a lawsuit if he doesn't straighten his act out. he is a really lying guy. >> the lawsuit, is it about lying or canadian birth? >> it's a birther thing. >> first we have 9/11 truther stuff. now the birther stuff. he's not backing down. >> here's cruz's reaction. let's keep the full game here. here's cruz again. >> today donald trump held a press conference. where he apparently lost it. i mean, he was just going on and on about how i'm the most horrible person in the world. because i keep repeating the things he said. [ laughter ]
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you know, it's an amazing thing. do you notice how rattled donald gets when his numbers start going down? his poll numbers in south carolina must be plummeting following that debate. >> the round table is sticking with us. up next, the three will tell me something -- the best part of the show. it's almost always great to keep the standard up. you're watching "hardball," the place for politics.
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we're back with "hardball" round table. paul, tell me something i don't know. >> does your employer have an obligation to help you vote? starbucks will launch an initiative to get their employees out to vote and volunteer at polling places. >> during the day? they don't have to wait until 6:00? >> and see if they can work with their schedules. to try to help them -- >> what do you call it, making the president? he said the country turns democrat after 6:00 at night when the working people get home. >> nevada, colorado, caucus states for hillary clinton and bernie sanders. i'm hearing from people on the ground, that her people are very worried. they've been worried about the
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caucus states from the beginning. but nevada is looking really, really close. >> saturday? >> she's sending people to rural parts of the state that she worked many, many months ago hoping to lock them up. that's a sign that they are not all there for her. >> i think there's going to be a move to get rid of caucuses pretty soon. >> yeah. >> so there's often the question of why the democrats don't like bernie sanders. hillary clinton has raised so far $32 million for the dnc, and state democratic parties. bernie sanders has raised $1,000 for them. >> i love the way you get to the heart of things. thank you so much. dana millbank enjoys this more than you can imagine, abby phillip and paul singer. my colleague, richard engel, is here with a revealing look at the past 20 years he's been covering chaos in the middle east. this is scary work.
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the writers at "saturday night live" at fun at hillary clinton's expense this weekend, highlighting young voters drawn to the appeal of bernie sanders. take a look. >> hillary is the most qualified candidate in history. but at the same time, eh? >> hillary has every single thing i want in a president, but >> she's no bernie!
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turn down the lights turn down these voices inside my head >> i love bernie's whole vibe. >> i'm obsessed with his vibe. because i can make you love me if you don't. >> did anybody else just get so cold for a minute? >> i felt cold, but safe. >> but safe. we'll be right back.
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he just handed me his gun. i didn't realize until he put it in my hands, it's actually just made of plastic. it's a toy. this one looks like it's about to get very ugly. we came under attack as incoming fire right now. we're using this humvee for cover. then we were attacked with small arms fire. u.s. troops have spread out through the area and are trying to catch the insurgents. >> wow. richard engel, we're back, chief foreign correspondent. you've reported from every major hot zone in the past 20 years. the only television correspondent in baghdad, as american bombs dropped at the beginning of the war. in lebanon in 2006. and most recently the uprising in egypt, as well he's out with a new book about his reporting from the region.
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it's called "and then all hell broke loose." it's an honor to have you on. my colleagues and i worry about you. you're out there ducking bullets. >> you can get hurt in this city as well. >> what impressed me is you didn't get promoted to a job. you earned it. learned arabic by yourself. became a stringer, a top correspondent and then the top correspondent for a network. >> thank you. >> the only thing that interest americans is what affects our country. how did we get from a bunch of weak countries like libya and syria and even egypt in the old days and then it became more pro-western. it was all sitting there.
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it was a safe world. >> how dipd we get here. >> complete chaos and horror. >> there's a lot of personal experiences. it's told through my eyes. there's a basic thesis. the row houses looked impressive from the outside but if you wanted, you could put your finger through the door. the bush administration slammed america's shoulder into that row and started to unleash all the rot that was inside. these houses, like old rotten houses, they contain all the the rot, but by being closed up they make the situation even worse. they exacerbate the anger and
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religious fundamentalism that they were both containing and exacerbating. you had eight years of direct military action and then soon to be eight years of inconsistent action. under this administration all of that that had been contained has been unleashed. that rot that has been unleashed is isis. how did we get here. people say is it obama's fault? is it bush's fault? it's a continuum. >> from the mountains of status quo. that was all sitting there.
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>> how do we get back to something we can live with and have our guys getting beheaded. >> if this thesis is we have this row of houses and the rot has been unleashed to continue and this just guess work, i can tell you what happened in the past or what i've seen but i can only guess what the future might be. the guess is we're going to see a new series of strong men. i think that is -- >> will they come out of army? >> they'll come out of army. >> that's what i think. >> i was there. i was the speaker's aa. i said that's a strong guy. i like the look of the guy. he wasn't a democrat. he kept egypt together all those years. why didn't we stick with that guy? why did we dump him? why did we get him out of there be.
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>> i think you here in the city have a better read on that than i would? >> didn't we feel loyalty to the guy? >> you have a picture behind you of the white house. that was a decision made in that building. >> one thing i want putin for, not because he's with the right people but he's loyal to the people he's loyal to. there is a sense of loyalty. >> he's trading on that, a lot. here's the catch 22. people in the region and people around the world and administrations they want a resumption of some stability. isn't there another middle ground. do you have to have isis? >> we don't get to pick -- we're having a hard time picking a president here? >> i've noticed. i've been back a few days.
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>> this is really easy reading. great reading. want to pick up and book and understand all this stuff that's fun to read. >> first hand. i tell what i saw. >> right back. i'll be right back.
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let me finish tonight with a short list of reasons to pick a reason in this year's
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presidential reason and also help elect a senate you agree with. 1954, brown versus board of education, the u.s. supreme court banned segregation in schools. 1962, the prayer this public school decision. having children recite state written prayers was unconstitutional. 2000 bush v gore. it takes a presidential election out of hands of the state. 2010, citizens united. unrestricted spending on political campaigns declared a constitutional right. seven decisions made by nine justices all carrying powerful and invasive influence into the life of our country. who picks the judges, the
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president. who picks him or her, you do. mark your ballot with care this spring so you'll have power of this fall. thanks for being with us. "all in" with chris hayes starts now. tonight on "all in". >> if the democrats want to replace this nominee, they need to win this election. >> obama justice should not be appointed in an election year. >> what president obama plans to do and how republicans are plotting to stop him. thenning back to the future. >> i've been misunderestimated most of my life. >> the return of w greeted with a trump assault. >> ever ask yourself why his brother went silent for all these years. >> donald's numbers are plummeting after the debate. >> i don't think cruz deal wells with pressure. i think he's a basket case.

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