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rally. time to check out margaret's inkresible piece on jesse jackson going to church in south carolina. and more on hillary clinton and donald trump. >> until then, thanks for watching. sayonara. >> coming up, "hardball" with chris matthews. place your bets. trump or the resistance. let's play "hardball." good evening. i'm chris matthews out in las vegas. i've been here a while. republicans woke up sunday with a reality, donald trump the front-runner for the party's nomination. celebrating his big win in south carolina. here he is. >> we won with everything. we won with women. i love the women. we won with evangelicals. like unbelievable. we won with the military. we won with highly educated,
pretty well educated and poorly educated, but we won with everything. tall people, short people, skinny people, fat people. every time they do polls, like cnn did a big poll, when it comes to security, when it comes to isis, when it comes to the military, every single category i'm leading by a lot. the only category i do badly in is my personality. and that's okay. who cares. and you know what? you want to know something? i'm a better person than the people i'm running against. >> i've never heard anybody talk about the poorly educated. the latest poll was taken before the south carolina primary. the cnn orc poll has trump at 45% here in nevada, the silver state. marco rubio comes in second at 19. that's pretty far back. followed closely often by ted cruz, always on his back.
in massachusetts, here's one that will grab you. a new poll shows a bigger trump lead in the supposedly liberal massachusetts. trump's at 50%. 5-0, according to the latest emmerson college poll out today. trump also leads recent polls in michigan, oklahoma, georgia, vermont and virginia. i'm joined by katy tur and hallie jackson, and john ralston, the host of ralston live. he's an msnbc political analyst and knows everything about vegas. back in washington, robert costa joins us, msnbc analyst as well. the republican party's reacting now to the news of trump's dominance in different ways. for some they are pushing resistance. henry barber, the nephew of hallie barber, a member of the republican national committee said, after trump has won in new hampshire and south carolina, republicans are crazy and are
about to blow the white house if we don't rally to stop him, close quote. marco rubio made the case for why the party needed to nominate him. >> we can't win. if we nominate someone, if we nominate someone that half of the republican party hates, we're going to be fighting against each other all the way to november. we will never win that way. i don't care how much you may think they're funny or how interesting they may sound. if we nominate someone that 40% to 50% of our party can't stand, we are going to lose. >> indicatekaty, i don't know w these guys are thinking, but he sounded desperate. we've got a leak in the dike, we've got to stop this thing. >> which is the case right now. donald trump has more delegates than anybody. won all 50 delegates in south carolina. he's got a strong lead going into super tuesday, both in the northern liberal states and southern conservative state. his support is crossing wide swaths of the party. not just the evangelicals. it's the moderates as well.
he has 100% name recognition. the tall, the short, the fat, the skinny, he said that as well. poorly educated. >> amazing statement. >> his supporters don't mind. >> let's get back to the fight about what that means. is he anywhere near 50%? which he needs to be to win the nomination. >> right now he's not near 50%. he needs to gain support. not just maintain. >> will he go up to 50% nationally? >> wins raise the ceiling. >> do you think he's headed that way? >> i don't know. could be. how is that? >> hallie jackson joining me. not all resisting. the fact that trump could win the nomination. here's kevin mccarthy, one of the top guys in the establishment. here he is today talking about trump's perhaps inevitability. here he is. well, we have kevin mccarthy.
we had him a minute ago. this is live. anyway, john, kevin mr mccarthy stuck his head up and said it will be trump. >> well, rubio or cruz don't look like they'll get out. kasich and carson taking enough of the vote to make sure trump's going to win all of these states. no one can figure it out. you mentioned this, the only guy i've seen in a speech read poll cross tabs. that's what he did. poorly educated. who does that? >> let's look at the speech, or statement by kevin mccarthy, the number two guy in the house. >> i think 50% chance he's the nominee. i think that's what's setting in for a lot of people. could they get their heads around trump. >> if trump were the nominee, do you think you could work with donald trump? >> oh, yeah, i could work with donald trump. >> let me go to robert costa at the "washington post." how do you see this now? is the resistance growing?
that trump could overpower him still? >> i think the establishment here in washington is warming to the idea of a trump nomination. it's something they don't necessarily welcome. but this is a transactional business. they realize they have to get ready for it. on capitol hill a few endorsements for senators. none from the senate. but at the same time, there's communication between the trump campaign and capitol hill aides. there's a growing rapport across the elite of the party, as they look to trump as someone who just could do it. >> let me ask you about the establishment of the republican party, which i've been watching all my life. they always seem to win. there was the exception, of course, with goldwater back in '64, which turned out to be a catastrophe. it always seems the mitt romneys and east coast types always end up winning the fights, the bushes, they always end up with the money and ability to really blow away anybody who dares challenge them. do you think this time you can see it now, that trump can beat what's left of that establishment, having knocked
off bush, knocked off a whole bunch of these guys now at this point. we thought walker could be a nominee. he's gone. rick perry's gone. jindal's gone. kasich's still there. you know, carson's not really a factor anymore. i hate to say that of anybody, but he isn't a factor anymore. is there an establishment that it will go to rubio? is that happening or not? >> historically, i think your narrative works well if you talk about the establishment versus an ideological reserve. but with trump, you're not really having a traditional idea a log. they see trump as more moderate on social issues that they can work with privately and publicly on politics, on legislation. and so they don't necessarily see him as a total outsider who wants to change the way the party thinks, and move it far to the right.
>> if you had to call it right now, robert, would you say the establishment has begun to crumble? >> i think the establishment donor class has begun to crumble. they're searching for rubio, trying to get some momentum there. but the establishment in terms of the official elected leadership of the republican party, when you look at mccarthy, they're starting to wrap themselves around the idea of trump holding back an endorsement. >> let's look at the other people in the party right now. ted cruz, in many ways, asked for the resignation of rick tower. he's been on "hardball" many times. and posted a link to a story that said marco rubio joked about the bible with a cruz staffer. the rubio camp said the website misquoted the candidate. anyway, senator rubio reacted strongly this morning, saying the episode set a pattern for the cruz campaign. >> every single day something
comes out of the cruz campaign that's deceptive and untrue. in this case, goes after my faith. this is a pattern now. i think we're now at a point that we start asking for accountability. talk about the va where people who aren't doing their job are going to be fired. who's going to be fired when ted cruz is elected? >> are you saying someone should be fired? >> i'm saying at some point there has to be some level of accountability. >> after cruz announced he had asked for tower's resignation, donald trump jumped in with a storm of tweets. first he posted, wow, ted cruz falsely suggested marco rubio mocked the bible. and was just forced to fire his communications director. more dirty tricks. trump added in a separate tweet, ted cruz has been playing an ad about me that is so ridiculously false, no basis in fact, take ad down, ted. biggest liar in politics. that's trump on cruz. in another trump tweet, trump wrote, quote, just saw the phony
ads by cruz. more dirty tricks. he got caught in so many lies. is this man crazy. hallie jackson, you covered cruz. >> yeah. >> what about -- we're on the strip here. what about this recurrent notion, the belief in the notion that cruz has this tendency to throw in some dirty stuff? >> i think that what you saw with cruz today when it came to asking for the resignation of rick tyler was a way to not just have ted cruz stand up and say i'm running a campaign of integrity, but try to close the book on this line of attack not just donald trump is pushing, but that marco rubio as well has been constantly talking about. >> when is cruz going to stop the tricks? >> well, i think that he wants to run a campaign that is above that. i think that's why you saw them ask for essentially a little bit of a sacrificial lamb. >> carson's out of the race. they sent an official looking
document. they're putting out -- it just seems there's always this -- they've always got something out there that people go, wait a minute, that smells. >> trump touched on this day where he talked about, you know, cruz offering apology to marco rubio, offering apology also to ben carson a couple of weeks ago that there has been this pattern. as we know, trump has a way of getting to the heart of the vulnerabilities of the campaigns. >> let's not miss the chance to talk about dirty tricks. stanford has all kinds of problems. he comes out and accuses trump of being a truther. in other words, one of the rely wacky people that someone had a plunger and blew up the world trade center. that's crazy talk. trump has never been a truther. then they get sanford out there to do the dirty work for them. >> he's not the victim in this.
>> is he a truther? >> no. >> one at a time here. not giving a pass. i'm not giving a pass. i'm saying cruz is engaging in dirtsy tricks. when you put out the idea that someone is a truther. >> here's one thing i would point out is often when we're talking about these things, it's not the cruz campaign directly. you made this point. it's mark sanford. but it's the super pac. >> oh, here you have -- >> you're laughing. >> someone that robert was referring to, the breakdown there probably not watching msnbc, sheldon, the establishment. he's not weighed in. he's a rubio guy. >> why hasn't rubio been able to woo him? >> i don't think he thinks rubio is strong enough. >> who's he got if he doesn't have rubio? >> his wife likes cruz supposedly. his wife has a lot of influence. >> that's been going on for weeks. >> yeah, exactly. >> something about trump not --
we agree he's not a truther. go on. >> what i'm saying is, ted cruz has certainly been the focus of a lot of this dirty trick stuff over the past few weeks. especially after iowa, and certainly there has been some shady stuff going on in the campaign about what sort of ads are getting put out and what sort of robocalls are out there and what thenot. trump has not run a clean campaign. >> go ahead, robert. >> there's another angle -- >> one guy below the surface, the other guy does it on television. >> the angle is carson. the biggest burden on cruz's campaign going into super tuesday are the 10% of voters, the carson voters who are still unhappy with the cruz campaign. if carson drops out after nevada, cruz has to find a way to get those 10% over. so this move today with tyler is a signal of reassurance to them. >> are they trying to get carson to drop out? >> they're not trying to get carson to drop out, but they want carson out of the race, or
if not out of the race, bleed his support so he doesn't consolida consolidate conservatives on the right. >> rubio seems to declare victory no matter what place he finances. he's gone 3, 5, 2, and now it's become 3, 2, 1. what is cruz's future right now? >> the path to victory for him, his campaign has come out with the top strategist with a memo outlining all this. they believe they can hammer the argument that ted cruz is the only person who has actually beaten donald trump, who's gotten a number up on trump on the scoreboard. i think it's hard to oversell how important super tuesday is to ted cruz's campaign. he's got to do well in the primary states. alabama, or tennessee. he told chuck todd on "meet the press," i need to do very well. >> he can't lose to trump. >> if he loses to trump in texas --
>> i'm sorry. let's say trump wins here tomorrow night. >> go ahead, john. >> you hurt me with the caucus -- >> sorry. it certainly adds to the -- >> that's democracy. spend some money and have a primary. >> it adds to the sense of inevitability. it shows he's not only won new hampshire and south carolina, but also won nevada. he is doing well in the southern states, well in the polling in the northern states right now. he does well with the evangelicals. the group ted cruz was supposed to sweep in south carolina. donald trump is the nominee, how doi put it, give me the right words, i'm blanking -- almost the inevitable nominee. >> no matter what happens tomorrow night, after midnight, i predict that marco rubio will declare victory. anyway, thank you very much, katy tur. thank you, hallie jackson.
and john ralston. and robert costa back in washington. fresh off her win here saturday, hillary clinton is looking for a decisive victory over bernie sanders down in south carolina. she looks very good down there. can clinton forge a message to get people excited about her campaign? she's got great organization, great name i.d. by the way, can she learn the bern? can she put sanders' policies to work for her to put him away? that would be great politics. and a reminder we'll have complete coverage of tomorrow night's republican caucuses here in nevada. "hardball" out here. and at 10:00 eastern, i'll join brian williams and rachel maddow with full results and analysis late into the night out here. ♪ i built my business with passion. but i keep it growing by making every dollar count. that's why i have the spark cash card from capital one.
outlook for the republican primary in massachusetts. but now we've got to look at the democratic race. let's check the scoreboard. voters go to the polls a week from tomorrow up in massachusetts. look at this. it's a tie between hillary clinton and bernie sanders up there. 46 points all. hillary clinton could handily, actually, she beat barack obama there in 2008. this is going to be fascinating to watch the base state.
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sanders against african-americans, women, and voters from union households. when it comes to the issues, only lag behind sanders among democrats who said income inequality was their top concern. sanders almost doubled the clinton share of the vote among young people. 65% to 33%. income inequality is the centerpiece of the sanders phenomena. clinton has tried to find elements of the message within her own campaign. in her victory speech, she spoke about the numerous economic barriers she intends to tear down if she's elected. >> it is a campaign to break down every barrier that holds you back. we need more than a plan for the big bang. the middle class needs a raise. and they need more jobs. we also have to do more to make it easier for parents to balance work and family. if you left college with a ton of loans, it's not enough just
to make college more affordable. you need help right now with a debt you already have. america can only live up to its potential. when each and every american has the chance to live up to your potential, too. >> that's a pretty good speech. today bernie sanders said clinton has been inching closer to his platform. here he is. >> i have to say, that i am delighted that secretary clinton month after month after month seems to be adopting more and more of the positions that we have advocated. that's good. and in fact, is beginning to use a lot of the language, phraseology that we have used. in fact, i think i saw her tv ad and i thought it was me. but it turned out it was secretary clinton's picture in
the ad. >> i'm joined by steve kornacki, and kevin bellcher. steve, i have to tell you, i think bernie sanders is dead right. hillary clinton is trying to learn the bern. >> well, the numbers we're seeing in the first three contests also point to something that's happened over the last eight years during the obama presidency, which is the democratic electorate has gotten a lot more liberal. >> it's fine with most people. >> we've seen it in iowa, new hampshire. eight years ago, you're seeing double-digit increases -- >> is hillary sitting there thinking, you know what, this is working. first of all, student loans. it's a reality. not a philosophy issue. if you get burnt by student loans, you have to pay maybe six figures through your 20s and 30s. you're a debtor. >> but you're seeing -- >> she has to address that issue. >> her weakest group right now is people under 30.
>> she hasn't figured out the message. he says free tuition. she's offering lower interest rates. >> three weaknesses have emerged from hillary clinton. one is young voters. another is political independence. he's winning with independents that show up. the inverse of what we saw in '08, working class of white voters. >> she was running against an african-american. >> he's put together -- >> that was a factor. i'm sorry to blow your mind and any evity. i'm just kidding here. these issues matter. go ahead, your thoughts, cornell. hillary clinton better among working class whites. how is she doing now against a professor type, who seems very unthreatening, very likable, if you will, and who seems to have the message directly to them. we want to make sure you don't have the big load of debt on you. >> i will say this.
in '08, there was a lot of talk about working class democrats sticking with hillary clinton, white democrats sticking with hillary clinton and whether it will be barack obama to win in 2008. it wasn't a problem. he in fact won, galvanized the democratic base. what hillary clinton's campaign is really smart. they're not letting an inch of difference in between her and bernie on central progressive or liberal issues, which is smart, so he can't draw a contrast so she'll stick close to him -- >> i disagree with you. look, he's out there selling public option now. medicare for life. she's saying, we can't do that. we can't do it now. >> but the contrast is, she's not letting him draw a hard contrast on whether or not she's going to be fighting for the middle class, and fighting for affordability. they may have different ways of getting there. she could make the argument of her way of getting there is more realistic. she's certainly not going to allow him to have the space that
he's fighting for the middle class, or for equality. her message is -- >> what's so different -- >> about tearing down -- >> cornell -- >> for the middle class people, it's pretty good. >> cornell, if bernie sanders hasn't been able to draw a contrast with hillary clinton, why is he doing so well? most people never heard of this fellow before this year. >> she has won two of the states. but there is this, bernie sanders is a vehicle for anti-establishment, a change on the left. i would argue, chris, it started on the left before it was on the right, by a guy like howard dean. obama took advantage of that as well. there's also anti-establishment on the left that is also very powerful. >> what did you make of his appearance in that black supper the other night where people seem to be more interested in having their meal and ignoring him? >> it's a real problem, chris. i tell you this, if you cannot compete for the african-american vote, and i'm going to be a
little different than a lot of my colleagues on the campaign have been about this -- >> they're watching it now. >> barack obama sealed the deal in south carolina when he won the african-american voters in south carolina. the die was cast. she was not going to be the nominee. if you look at the states and look at the african-americans, making up the primary electorate, if she cannot compete with her in the african-american states, they will have a big say in who's going to be the democratic nominee from this day forward. >> you know, let me go back to steve. you go to a party, you don't know anybody, you wander around. you hold a drink in your hand, don't know what to do. bernie is at a loss with this group of people. >> that's never been his style of campaign either, walking into the room, hugging, shaking hands. he gets in front of the room, he has his speech he's given for 40 years. he's usually speaking to the converted. it's a completely different
style of campaigning that he's allergic to. >> most politicians have to find a way past that allergy. he'll have to find a way to go door to door, or person to person -- >> i will say if you look at the bernie sanders of today and a year ago, he's come a long way. this was a guy at the start of the campaign with a contempt for any personal questions. >> the democratic convention in philadelphia this coming summer. will you hear a lot of bernie, even if he's not the nominee, or is the nominee, will you hear a lot of bernie discussed in the platform on the speeches starting the four days of that convention? will he be there evident in flesh as well as in spirit? >> i think if you see him have continued success, or close in some of the states, you've got to give him a voice there during that convention. he does bring in youth. he does bring in some energy that she will absolutely need. >> steve, on the particulars, on what to do with student loans,
what to do with health care, how advanced we get with the terms going into a public option, how we deal with the problem of social security retirement benefits being too low for people to live on. >> i'm surprised we haven't seen the public option yet. the specifics of the platform aren't necessarily going to be written by bernie sanders, but the theme of the platform will be written by bernie sanders. >> i think bernie's setting a direction in the way that goldwater lost -- we don't know that he's going to lose, but i think he's already set a lot of themes. thank you both gentlemen. the 106-year-old, this woman 106 years old, so delighted to visit the white house. she actually breaks into a dance there. we're going to meet virginia mclaren, up next with the first couple. this is "hardball," the place for politics. i'm hillary clinton and i approve this message. her life's work has been about breaking barriers. and
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welcome back to "hardball." february, of course, is national black history month. president obama received a very special guest at the white house today. 106-year-old virginia mclauren. let's watch. >> virginia mclauren? >> hi! >> how are you? >> fine. >> it's so nice to see you. do you want to say hi to michelle? >> yes. >> she's 106. >> no, you are not 106. >> you slow down. >> oh, my goodness. >> i want to be like you when i grow up. >> you can. >> she's dancing. come on! what's the secret to still dancing at 106? >> just keep moving. >> we're so happy to have you here. and look at those nails. nails are all done.
>> woo! >> yes, sir. i thought i would never live to get in the white house. >> well, you are right here. >> and i tell you, i am so happy. >> we are happy to have you. >> a black president. >> look at him. right there. >> i'm here to celebrate black history. that's what i'm here for. >> we're glad to have you here. >> you have just made our day. you know that? that energy, man. >> you made my day. >> okay. there you go. >> a wonderful scene of living history. 106 is pretty good. up next, fresh off their weekend victories, donald trump and hillary clinton look ahead to their next contest. republicans in nevada are voting here tomorrow. and democrats in south carolina
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thank you, nevada! thank you so much! you know, i am so, so thrilled and so grateful to all of my supporters out there. some may have doubted us, but we never doubted each other. and this one's for you. >> welcome back to "hardball." reveling in her victory here saturday night over bernie sanders. clinton won 53% of the vote out here in nevada. but that 6% makes all the difference. a phone call from the nevada senator, harry reid, may have helped tip the balance for clinton by getting out the important union vote here on the
strip, on caucus day itself. on the republican side, the five remaining republicans face off tomorrow night, after donald trump scored a resounding win in south carolina. trump offered an ominous prediction that with every gop dropout, he'll be the one to pick up the votes. here he is. >> a number of the pundits said well, if a couple of the other candidates drop out, if you add their scores together -- [ applause ] they don't understand that as they drop out, we'll get the votes. >> i'm joined by the "hardball" round table. the former nevada gop chairwoman. the union represents many hotel, food, service and lawn ri workers. and sue, is trump it?
is this already over? >> he's the one in nevada for sure. i can't imagine him being defeated. >> project beyond these streets. >> i think there's a very good chance he's our nominee. >> who could beat him at this point? >> i think cruz could beat him or rubio could beat him. it's possible in the south. we have to watch what the south does. >> let's go to mack on that. look at this trump thing right now. trump faces the accumulation of all the wealth in the world on the head of rubio. because rubio's the last gasp of hawks and establishment republicans. both groups. the hawks. they always have one in mind. and the establishment. they both need to beat this guy. he's neither establishment or hawkish. >> i don't think he has to attack downwards that much. he's leading in nevada -- >> can somebody beat him? >> of course. he's most likely to win the nomination by far right now. it's very difficult to chart out
a path for marco rubio or ted cruz. ted cruz had the unfortunate incident today, his spokesperson resigned, national spokesperson resigned just before the nevada caucuses. that's going to hurt him. >> let's talk democrats. hillary clinton? >> she's in good shape. but don't underestimate bernie sanders. he's been underestimated the entire time. >> who are you for? >> we're neutral. >> but you want to make sure you stay neutral, right? >> absolutely. we're staying neutral probably until whoever wins the nomination. >> tell me about this ideological thing that kind of amazed me. there's a new poll out taken by a republican group that shows most democrats prefer socialism to capitalism. those terms don't mean what they did maybe 40, 50 years ago. are you surprised socialism is favored as strongly as it is among democrats? >> yes, i am. i think they're equating that to income inequality and what's going on in the country for the last 30 years. >> if you believe in socialism,
society can run a pretty decent government, it can provide services, regulate the economy. and now we talk about how bad the va is. something it clearly does run. yes? >> people are just so disillusioned with the current process they're willing to hang on to new ideas and new terms. >> socialism being a new idea? >> the new concept of what socialism -- >> what is it? >> it would look a like like the va i think. >> i disagree. i think what they're looking at is how government used a function with their ideal, a new deal or a great society when government actually cared about folks, and people felt like they had a fair shake. i think the media has been completely wrong about trump and sanders. they don't understand the anger out there, or don't understand -- >> are people not going to see -- >> they've written off trump so many -- >> i never wrote off trump. >> oh, no -- >> i figured it was coming.
>> no, no, overall, the media -- >> not only do you make up your mind -- >> we are watching. talking about jobs. i don't care if you're a democrat or republican, they want jobs. sanders is talking about it and trump is talking about bringing jobs back and making our country great again. >> how will they create new jobs? >> if you listen to trump, he's going to make sure we get our jobs back from mexico, and jobs back from china. now he's mentioned vietnam, we're going to get the jobs back from vietnam. >> slam the door on trade. and that's going to do the job? what about sanders? >> i'm not sure. that's not my -- >> i think this is all the latest incarnation of this, is the tpp. if you notice -- >> the trade bill. you're against the trade bill? >> not all trade bills. but that trade bill --
>> what are you for? >> that's before my time. that's your time, not my time. >> ooh. i studied history. >> that's good. >> that's an advantage. the democrats are against trade, at least -- >> my point earlier is there are very few differences on trade, on the economy between donald trump and bernie sanders. they're both protectionists. >> who signed the nafta? which president? a democrat. >> yeah, but donald trump is very much -- >> they all pushed it. yeah? >> donald trump is a republican in a mold that we have just not seen. the republican coalition is utterly falling apart in this cycle. we're seeing a republican in donald trump who has nice things to say about planned parenthood. >> what do you think of the face that he's chemo for politics? he's instructive but he'll destroy all the bad stuff and doing the most ruthless way. but that people want that done. they want the system -- >> they do.
>> they want race -- i don't -- i'm not sure how that's created a distraction. i don't think that's a positive chemo type thing. it may be cathartic, but it's not helpful. >> do you like the words trump used? >> yes, i think he's misogynist, racist, anti-immigrant. who in their right mind would criticize the pope and get away with it. there are 35% of the republican party that will be for donald trump no matter what. that's clear. the question is, are the american public going to want somebody who just attacks as compared to give real solutions. >> you don't buy the fact that he'll do well by hispanics or african-american voters? >> i do not believe that at all. >> i have hispanic friends who are all for trump because they feel they're getting a bad rap on the illegal people who are here. as opposed to those who came the right way, built up their businesses, have, you know, everything going for them in our country. the country isn't going with
them the way they thought it was going to go. >> this is why donald trump is so much more of a threat to hillary clinton if she's the nominee, is that he cuts across existing coalitions. >> he does. >> he slashes. he brings in enormous share of the african-american vote, for example. >> i disagree with that. there is no way a lot of african-americans go for donald trump. by the way, every time i hear, oh, latinos for donald trump, i would like to get real data on that. i know in our membership, that is not the case. that's the reason the trump hotel workers really organized right when he was running for president. 80% of them are immigrant workers. they got offended about what trump said about mexicans, for example. i don't believe that for a second. >> the round table is sticking with us. i'll ask this rambunctious group to tell me something i don't know. i'm sure we'll all be very disparate among them. retiremen. may not always be clear. but at t. rowe price, we can help guide your retirement savings. for over 75 years, investors have relied
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trump foundation. they started getting the money but it's not coming from his charity. >> what happened to the money he raised that night? >> it hasn't been accountable. >> you're making accusation? >> i'm not. it's not been accountable. >> donald trump workers here organize the union, got it. he won't negotiate a contract, but in canada, for canadian workers he negotiated a contract in one week. why are canadian workers better than americans in. >> are they making more than us? >> they are now. >> do the canadian guy makes more than the american guy working for trump? >> yes. >> per hour? >> yes. >> why is that? >> let him answer. he says make america great. he should start right here. >> you're saying he's not
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let me finish tonight with a question for democratic primary and caucus voters. actually, two questions. first, are you 45 or under and do you prefer socialism to capitalism? a new survey conducted by a republican firm shows a close correspondence in your answers. if you're 45 or under, you're likely to prefer socialism. 46% of people in that younger age group put themselves on the socialist side. just 19% preferred capitalism. among democratic primary voters of all ages, the ratio is 43% favoring socialism. 30% favoring capitalism.
while i have questions about the language used in describing the two economic systems, i think people have fairly good gut sense of the people between socialism and capitalism. the fact that younger people are more inclined to socialism may come with the fact that young people's first reaction to capitalism is a debtor. they picked up so much debt from college and have it hanging on them that they can't see the positive side of an economic system that allows people po make money off of investments and allows people to make money by borrowing money for new enterprises and few involved in start up businesses today have a very different view of the word capitalism are much less excited about an economy heavy with government involvement. those bearing up under the burdens of big student loans see their own predicament. it's made an awful lot of money not been building anything but simply to manipulate money
itself. in other words, two bad words for capitalism, wall street. that's hardball for now. thanks for being with us. "all in" with chris hayes starts right now. tonight. >> i love to win. don't we love to win? >> as donald trump's domination continues, are republicans kidding themselves to think they have chance of stopping him? >> i'm a conservative that will win this election. we have to win. >> tonight the state of race on the eve of the big nevada caucus. while sheldon adelson is staying under the radar. the telling truth about when the lights went out in georgia. >> because the lights won't work, i won't pay the rent. do democrats face a problem getting out to vote. jeb, we hardly knew you. a look back at what happened to jeb bush.