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starts right now. if it's monday, it's a surge of new info in our new poll. a majority of republicans preferred someone else as their nominee. how much of trump's recent troubles cost him. which issues are driving clinton and trump's numbers up n down? we'll find out. it's "mtp daily" and it starts right now. good evening. welcome to "mtp daily." i'm peter alexander in for chuck todd. we've got brand-new numbers right now from our nbc news/"wall street journal" poll. let's get right to that, including something that might explain clinton's growing lead over donald trump. she now leads him by five points by our count among registered voters. among democrats, the majority of voters are on board with clinton. 52% say they're satisfied with their presumptive nominee.
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for trump it's the opposite. 52%, a majority of republicans, would rather have someone else as their nominee. only 45% of republican voters say they're satisfied with trump. this poll was conducted after clinton became the democrats presumptive nominee, after the attack and trump's response, the attack in orlando and after a rough three-week stretch for trump's campaign including a renewed effort by some republicans to deny him the nomination at next month's convention in cleveland. and 55% of voters said that what they had seen, read and heard about trump over the last couple of weeks had given them a less favorable view of the real estate mogul. just 20% said they had a more favorable view as a result. but despite all of that, as we said, this is obviously still a very tight race. and new numbers from our poll show clinton has an uphill climb for key characteristics in particular. when it comes to getting things done, more registered voters believe trump has a slight edge
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there. when it comes to honesty, trump beats clinton. this time by 16 points. but as for handling a crisis, clinton leads trump on that topic by 14 points. clinton knows that she needs a tough offense. today she, alongside elizabeth warren did not hold back. >> this is a man who plays coy with white supremacists and mocks people with disabilities. this is someone whose reaction to the horrific mass shooting in orlando was to publicly congratulate himself. >> what kind of a man? a nasty man who will never become president of the united states. >> even though clinton has teamed up with one of the most popular figures in her party, both she and trump remain the most unpopular candidates in our poll's history. ever. here's another number that may raise a flag. more than 60% of registered
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voters say clinton or trump don't have an identity or background they can identify with. here's what clinton told a crowd in chicago just a short time ago. >> a lot of people tell pollsters they don't trust me. now i don't like hearing that. and i thought a lot about what's behind it. you can't just talk someone into trusting you. you have to earn it. so, yes, i could say that the reason i sometimes sound careful with my words is not that i'm hiding something. it's just that i'm careful with my words. >> let's get the latest from both campaigns. hallie jackson joining us from outside trump tower. kristen welker in cincinnati, ohio, where clinton was recall -- earlier. what clinton needs more than anything is to build up her positives, her favorables.
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donald trump is about as low as you can get on the unfavorable side. >> it's undoubtedly a part of secretary clinton's strategy to try to turn the page on that, peter. i think we're going to hear a lot more from her. reintroducing herself to voters. that's reflected in the campaign ads that we're seeing blasted out from the campaign, from the superpac that supports secretary clinton in key battleground states highlighting what they think of secretary clinton's key accomplishments. the work she did on getting health care for kids when first lady. some of her top achievements when senator and secretary of state. that is going to be critical to trying to turn the page. but, peter, here in cincinnati, another critical part of her strategy, she's trying to unify democrats. today on the trail with senator elizabeth warren. obviously a possible vp pick as well. what happened today, we saw that secretary clinton doesn't necessarily need a big endorsement from bernie sanders to rally progressive voters. senator warren helped her with
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that today. >> it was striking the level of energy in that room. the kind of energy that sanders saw throughout the campaign. that clinton really didn't see with the same frequency. hallie, you talked to donald trump today. he responded to elizabeth warren's attacks by questioning her race. to be very clear about this, within the same 15-minute window that the trump campaign put out a well-crafted statement to the press, going after elizabeth warren as a sellout, he called you and stepped all over that message. what did he say? >> essentially, yeah, calling her a total fraud, peter. saying on claims she exaggerated her native american background, that she's a racist for making up her heritage. going after elizabeth warren very hard. interestingly, you talked about this as his campaign was sending out this crafted statement. trump was sort of using the same tone we've seen from him throughout this campaign. this morning, he didn't tweet using that controversial nickname for her that he has, pocahontas, but he did re-up
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that nickname on the phone with us this afternoon. not apologizing for it. when questioned about how that seemed inconsistent with this pivot to a more presidential tone, this trump 2.0 that people have been talking about over the last week, trump essentially brushed it off saying i do what i do. he pointed to his wins in the primaries as evidence he doesn't need to change in order to do well. >> what's worth noting is donald trump routinely has called elizabeth warren goofy on twitter. warren, prepared for that attack today she said trump is goofy when he's wearing that "make america great" hat. to show you the high-minded nature of the campaign discourse right now. on elizabeth warren, clearly this was an audition of sorts. a lot of people today saying she knocked it out of the park. what are you hearing privately whispered from the clinton folks who know the thinking behind the scenes? >> i heard that she's being considered very seriously, peter. of course, she's being considered with a number of other big names. she is someone again who helps
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rally those progressives, those senator sanders supporters. but she gets under donald trump's skin. that's why he has a nickname for her, that pocahontas nickname. those are the pros. but this is someone who has had policy differences with secretary clinton. she hasn't been shy about that. donald trump clear that he's saving all the comments she's made counter to clinton if she were to become the vp pick. and tim kaine who, by all accounts is really at the top of the list, he's virginia's senator, former governor, seems to check all of the boxes also with how secretary clinton's deficit she has right now with male voters. he's a strong contender as well. but there's no doubt, peter, the clinton campaign, democrats more broadly, looked at what happened today and took note of the energy in that room. it was electric. i was inside that room and it was unique and more energized than we see at a typical campaign rally. >> chief among those boxes,
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senator klaine checks is the boring box. how about talk of revolt in the party. we're going to break down those numbers with our pollsters to see what that looks like. the governor of the state where the convention will take place, ohio, obviously, john kasich, still has not endorsed trump. what are you hearing from inside kasich's camp about his participation in the convention? remember, this is ohio, a state that could decide this thing. >> right. it's not just the state hosting the gop convention. it is one of the most important battleground states come november. and a top aide to kasich says there's no expectation that he'll speak come convention. kasich will be working outside the convention to shore up vulnerable senators and members of congress that are in some of these races down ballot. but this comes after donald trump told "the new york times" that release his formal rivals endorse him, they'll likely not be invited to speak at the biggest sort of week for the
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republican party in four years. it's remarkable given that kasich does hold a position of importance within the party, particularly in ohio. and i have to tell you, i spoke with an aide to senator ted cruz, another one of trump's former rivals. for him, too, no plans, at least right now, to speak at the convention. his team is operating as i'm told under the assumption that will not change. cruz has some 560 delegates bound to him on the first ballot at convention. he and his team want to make sure to thank those delegates somehow. the question is, without a primetime speaking slot, how do you do it? >> i remember walking around rural new hampshire with john kasich months ago. he promised me he'd not be anybody's vp. he may not participate in the convention in his backyard. hallie jackson, kristen welker, thank you. we have some more poll numbers that help illustrate how voters look at these strengths and weaknesses. when it comes to who would be better at changing business as
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usual and dealing with the economy, donald trump, obviously, clobbering clinton. you can see it by double digits. a 30-point advantage on the top bracket there. the same pool of voters say clinton has an edge in foreign policy. strength as commander in chief and uniting the country. she leads in those categories by double digits as well. but in the categories where it's close, trump still holds an edge. more voters believe he will do better at standing up for america and handling terrorism and security, as well as on gun issues. so to dive deeper into these numbers with our team of pollsters, fred yang is a democratic pollster. michael roberts is a pollster with public opinion strategies. thanks for being with us right now. i want to ask you specifically about some of the differences that exist in two of the prominent polls out right now. our poll has donald trump trailing hillary clinton about five points compared to three points several weeks ago. a "washington post" poll out at the same time basically has the
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gap much wider, 12 points. a swing of 14 points in clinton's favor in the course of that time. what should people watching these numbers and saying, what's going on here, what should they know? >> both polls, while the margins may differ, both agree that mrs. clinton is inching ahead in this campaign. the post would suggest she's running ahead. our poll would suggest she's inching ahead. the second thing is a lot of it is about turnover. the piece of elizabeth warren and secretary clinton in ohio and the enthusiasm. that's an important part. one of the big differences if the two polls is the number of democrats the post says they have. >> t"the washington post" is expecting a lot more democrats are going to show up. >> if they do, she'll win by a big margin. >> that's why we say turnout, turnout, turnout. micah, 52% of republicans do not want trump as the nominee. but as we flip back the clock, back in 2008 strikingly, 52% of republicans then didn't want mccain as their nominee.
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the numbers were exactly the same. is this a sign the party could still warm up to trump, or is this a sign there may be more trouble ahead? s s s suffice it to say, not the first time we've seen problems with the party's nominee. >> the one thing you have to remember and look into the data is the core republicans asked that, those that identify at strong republicans, a majorities of them are satisfied with trump. so that number kind of flips a bit when you look at the hard core republicans. the comparison to john mccain is an appropriate and important context for that number. >> and, fred, to you, clinton has the majority of democratic voters. he's going to vote for clinton, clearly. not for donald trump. but is there growth for her still as she consolidates democrats or is that process done? is this as big as she can get among democrats? >> i think she can grow a little
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more. some of the sanders people are holding back from her. but there's no indication from the poll they'll not be with her in november. >> so you answered it, but will sanders people vote for trump in any form? >> i doubt it. if they are -- >> big issues with the republican party is what our polls have shown. >> the one uniting thing about this poll and all the polls we've talkken over the last dece is the amount of dissatisfaction. that's what makes this election so unpreductable. why someone like trump who had a few bad weeks can still be competitive. >> one thing that's striking from "the washington post" poll, the number of people who say trump, they basically don't think he's qualified to be president and yet they prefer him to hillary clinton right now. it shows one of the real challenges for what we're trying to accomplish as we judge where things stand. micah, despite the gaps in the national poll, what strikes a lot of people is how neck and neck many of these battleground states remain. the cbs/yougov poll, which is
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online, shows hillary clinton holds a slight edge but it's all between 1% and 5%. colorado, florida, north carolina, wisconsin. what is the takeaway as you look at these battlegrounds now? >> the national numbers is really what i like to focus on. the important part of the national numbers that we're releasing for you all is that the independent. that independent number and those folks are really, really disaffected. and more so even than in even recent polling, they have super high negatives of both of these candidates. in the 60s and 70s. >> if we have an electoral college system where it's decided by the states, why is the national poll a better judge of that than the state by state polls? >> well, i think it's a better judge of the national zeitgeist of what's happening in this election. you can break it down into each individual states. but for me, i think what i can
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talk about, and a very clear and concise way is the national numbers from this nbc/"wall street journal" national poll. that's what i was focusing on. >> no doubt. we always appreciate clear n concise when we're dealing with the depth of all these numbers as we go right through the methodology for this as well. to you, fred, on third party. if you add in the third party candidates, a libertarian, gary johnson, jill stein, a green party candidate. is that something we're not giving enough weight to as we broadly have this conversation? people are looking for an outlet. that's where they may go. >> watch out for the summer numbers for the third party candidates. but, look, 10% johnson, 6% stein. the most negative presidential candidate -- >> that's striking. >> well, and you said this. we have two of mow most unpopular nominees ever. if you don't like what you have, you'll look around for alternatives. the question is, will they be there in november? history shows they kind of fade
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away as voters focus on the two choices. >> we'll be checking in with you along the way. fred yang, micah roberts, thank you. mayor stephanie rawlings blake joins me to talk about the steps being taken to reform the criminal justice system. and the supreme court makes a major ruling on apoportion access. what it means for abortion rights around this country. stay tuned. still beain. it comes when your insurance company says they'll only pay three quarters of what it takes to replace it. drive three quarters of a car? now if you had liberty mutual new car replacement, you'd get your whole car back. i guess they don't want you iving around on three wheels. smart. with liberty mutual new car replacement, we'll replace the full value of your ca see car insurance in a whole new light. liberty mutual insurance.
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welcome back. it's no coincidence hillary clinton and elizabeth warren made their first joint appearance today in cincinnati. as always, ohio is a crucial presidential swing state. plus, this year the buckeye state's down ballot contest could tip the balance in the senate. the ohio senate election is our race of the day today. it pits rob portman against former democratic governor of that state ted strickland. this one is going to be tight.
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the last quinnipiac poll out just over a week ago has the two candidates literally even. the orlando massacre and senate votes last week brought the issue of guns to center stage in this race. strickland hit portman for walking the republican party line on guns after portman voted with the republican majority on all four gun amendments. and the test vote on the bipartisan compromise bill put forward by senator susan collins. strickland put out a statement that said, senator portman has now voted repeatedly against common sense proposals to stop terrorists from buying guns and for comprehensive background checks but it wasn't long ago that he was voting down gun control bills in congress. as a congressman strickland was against the 1993 brady bill that instituted the federal background checks for gun purchases and against the federal assault weapons ban. in fact, the nra endorsed strickland for governor over john kasich six years ago and
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praised him for his consistent a-rating. strickland now favors closing a gun show and internet loophole for background checks. and the democratic-backed measure to stop those on the terror watch list from buying guns. we'll be keeping a close eye on this race all the way to november. a lot more on the fight over guns and criminal justice reform just ahead. ♪ ♪ americs are buying more and more of everything online.
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history. eight people have been killed in the last week, including a young rapper this weekend leaving what's i'm told is a charity basketball game for peace. with gun legislation obviously apparently going nowhere on capitol hill, what real solutions are being implemented in baltimore right now that can help your local community? >> i think the solutions for the violence that we've seen in baltimore and cities around the country are more than solutions that government alone can provide. this has to be a true partnership with our community members. far too often members of the community know who is pulling the trigger, know the suspects. and as we get more cooperation and more collaboration, i think we can work to get these individuals off the street. it also has to be a partnership with the judicial system. i've heard from frustrated residents when they've seen violent repeat offenders being released from jail and back out on the street putting our community in harm's way.
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so there are no simple solutions here. this is a complex problem that requires an all hands on deck approach if we're going to have a safer city in baltimore and other cities that are experiencing spikes. >> as congress tries to play its role in this, our new nbc/"wall street journal" poll shows that 50% of voters say they are concerned the government will go too far in restricting the rights of citizens to own guns. 47% say they were more concerned authorities wouldn't do enough to regulate access to firearms. with the changes being talked about here in washington, will they make a difference on the streets of your city? >> i think it makes a difference for the country when we do everything that's we can to keep guns out of the hands of dangerous individuals. the common sense gun laws that have been proposed and that are currently proposed and are overwhelmingly supported by the majority of americans will make our country safer. >> the bottom line is your city,
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the access to guns is still, i suspect, pretty easy for too many of the young individuals part of these killings. >> oh, absolutely. we have way too many illegal guns on our street. we have had cases where we've seen these guns being brought in by the trunk loads from other states. and the more we can do to keep guns out of the hands of people who should not have them, the better all of our cities will be. >> the conference of mayors, of course, where you are right now supporting a bipartisan bill in the u.s. senate that would lower the required sentence for people convicted of certain nonviolent drug offenses. how does a bill like that change the experience in baltimore? >> well, i think it changes the experience across the country. there's bipartisan support for sentencing reform because we know what works and what doesn't work in our cities. and when we focus on repeat violent offenders, that's when we're safer. when we focus on individuals who are not committing violent crimes who then come back after
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they've been incarcerated and have difficulty re-entering soi society, have difficulty getting jobs, we're not helping that individual to reintegrate. we're not helping them to be able to take care of themselves or their family and putting them in the perfect position to be recidivists. and that does not work. the reason there's bipartisan support is because we want common sense sentencing that focuses on the individuals that mean to do harm in our community and those individuals that are likely to be rehabilitated, that are likely to be reintegrated. we need to help them out. >> the justice department announcing it's going to train all of its 28,000 law enforcement agents and prosecutors to recognize and address implicit bias. that measure is aimed at curbing officer-involved shootings, obviously. will that training do anything to change the murder rate in cities like your own? >> well, i think when you deal with implicit bias, it doesn't
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impact the murder rate. it impact the trust relationship between police and the community. and that's something that is critical to the safety of our community in baltimore and across the country. we know that the citizens cannot create safe communities on their own. and the police cannot create safe communities and cannot fully serve the communities that they protect without that good collaboration. and it requires us constantly working on meaningful reforms but also constantly working on rebuilding that trust relationship. >> finally, now a year out from the riotss in baltimore, the awful violence that took place there. three of the six officers involved in the death of freddie gray have been tried. two found not guilty. one ended in a hung jury. is this evidence of a justice system that's working or is this proof of a flawed justice system? >> i don't think it's either. i think the trials have to run their course. i think the state's attorney will be held accountable for the
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cases she puts on. >> are you satisfied with the course of this? >> i am satisfied that justice is a process. it's not a verdict. and i'm also satisfied that the work that we're doing to reform the police department, which is the meaningful work that's needs to be done in order to bring healing to our community will happen and is happening, regardless of the cases that are being put forward in the court. >> are you satisfied with the way the state's attorney has been prosecuting these cases to this point? >> that's not my call. and this is -- i'm focused on making sure the work to reform the police department is happening. we've been in full cooperation with the department of justice patterns and practices review because i want baltimore's police department to be a reflection of what's possible n best in our country. we're not there yet. so the state's attorney is focused on the case. the cases that's she plans to continue to bring, and i'm
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focused on reforming our police department and making sure in my time in office that i'm doing everything that i can to rebuild that much needed trust relationship between the community and the police. >> mayor stephanie rawlings-blake, we appreciate your time. thank you. still ahead, bob mcdonnell's get out of jail free card. the supreme court throws out his bribery conviction. we're going to look at what it means for other lawmakers facing legal troubles. and more reaction from the political and economic worlds following britain's brexit vote. we'll have new details after this. think big. or demand your own space. don't you dare leave it all behind. don't you dare ask what's next. intrucing the first-ever cadillac xt5.
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britain is leaving the european union, but we must not turn our back on europe or on the rest of the world. >> i'm here in this great capital city this evening in the aftermath of last week's vote to underscore the unbreakable bond
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that exists between the united states and the united kingdom. >> we believe that it remains as strong and as crucial as ever. >> tonight more political and economic turmoil in the wake of the brexit vote. john kerry as you saw in brussels earlier today to meet with eu leaders. he says the u.s. government is doing everything it can to assist in the transition. prime minister david cameron addressing parliament today for the first time since he announced his resignation friday. the uk government has yet to trigger article 50. that's the process by which a member state leaves the eu. cameron argues the next prime minister will have to first determine the kind of relationship the uk wants with the european union before that process can formally begin. tomorrow, former british prime minister tony blair will join joe and mika on "morning joe." he'll give his take on the way forward for the uk. but right now, susan lee has more on the economic impact of the brexit vote.
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we're going to get the report out. it will be in the next month. loved to have done it in 2015. i would have loved to do it in the summer of 2015, but, yes, it
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will be before the convention. >> that was republican congressman trey gowdy on benghazi here on "mtp daily" last month talking about when his committee would release its report. we still haven't seen the republicans' report. the house democrats on the benghazi committee released theirs today. 339 pages long. nbc's luke russert is joining us from capitol hill. he and his team looking through it. break down the takeaways from this. one politician whose name was used perhaps more than anybody more in it? >> not unexpectedly, peter, this was the house democrats really playing defense. playing defense for secretary hillary clinton. as well as going out of their way to paint the republican-led benghazi committee as a group that was on a witch hunt. they had some very forceful language about this saying, quote, in our opinion, chairman gowdy has been conducting this investigation like an overzealous prosecutor, desperately trying to land a
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front-page conviction rather than a neutral judge of facts seeking to improve the security of our diplomatic corps. they go on to say that this is nothing new. the evidence obtained by the celebrity committee obtains the core findings already issued by many previous investigations into the attacks in benghazi. there have been many congressional committees that have investigated this. the department of defense could not have done anything differently that night. they simply were not in position to get there quickly when ambassador stevens and his team was under assault. they also say that the real culprits here, if anybody is to be found negligent, was the state department bureau of diplomatic security. and that this group did not listen to the agents on the ground, that more security was needed at this facility and those words should have been taken more seriously. you mentioned one politician who has been mentioned in this. the democrats said that donald trump made a lot of these
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accusations against secretary clinton, and they, in fact, then moved to refute all of those. and that's what republicans are honing in on saying, look, the democrats are the one making this about their nominee and our nominee. wait until you see our report in the coming weeks. it will be much different. not as political and really about what happened that night. we'll see whenever that report comes out, peter. >> the infusion of politics in all things at this time of year. luke russert at the hill. thank you. across the street from the capitol at the supreme court today, a major victory for abortion rights activists and a big win for bob mcdonnell. on abortion first, the court struck down a strict texas law that required abortion clinics to meet hospital-like standards. planned parenthood's president told andrea mitchell this ruling is a huge victory for women and about a dozen other similar laws can now be challenged. >> i think the court has spoken decisively about the laws have
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been passed in order that have nothing to do with women's health but have been passed just in order to make it more difficult for women to make their own decisions about their pregnancies. what this means is we can now challenge these. not only in court but work to repeal them state by state. >> joining us from the supreme court is nbc's justice correspondent pete williams. pete, i want a sense of the significance of today's ruling but also address whatty is se richards just said. other laws would, therefore, be doomed as a result of what we saw today. >> here's the reason. today's ruling applies only to texas. what the supreme court says is these new restrictions, doctors have to have admitting privileges, clinics have to be built to the same standards, staffing equipment levels at walk-in surgical centers. those oppose additional burdens
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to abortion. now today's ruling itself strikes down only the provisions of the tech law but opponents of the law that have restrictions like texas can now take the supreme court ruling going in and saying the same logic ought to apply here. let's get these laws struck down. it doesn't automatically do it but leads the way to it. >> we go from 40-plus clinics in the state now closer to 19. does the presumption those clinics will show up again or unlikely to happen? >> some will reopen. some lost their leases. some lost their staffing. some of the doctors have left. so the folks down there said they doubt that they'll go back to 42. this will be a slow process. but now they can start rebuilding. by the way, as the lieutenant governor of tex aone of the architects of the bill struck down today, said he'll get the legislature to go line by line to the supreme court ruling and see if there's some other way to impose these restrictions. >> i want to ask about a case closer to us in d.c.,
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geographically. the former virginia governor bob mcdonnell. so clean slate? does it start over again? what is next for the former governor? >> first, he doesn't have to report to prison because the conviction has been vacated. the court has sent the case back to the court of appeals with the option for the government to retry him. here's the deal. what the supreme court said is he was convicted for, in return for cash and favors from a virginia businessman who wanted the state to help him do research on this drug he was trying to market. the governor got cash and gifts. and in return, set up meetings, hosted lunches, called staffers and said you ought to talk to this guy. the question is, are those official acts? that's what the law says. if you take something in return for official acts, that's corruption. what the supreme court says is what he did is not official acts. setting up meetings, facilitating, talking to staffers, setting up lunches is routine business that government officials do all the time. so the court narrowed the
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meaning of official -- for that reason it could undercut the ability of the government to prosecute other public officials for corruption. thomas, i lost my ability to hear you. so i will just end it here and send it back to you. >> we hear you well. pete, thank you very much. more breaking news just in from mississippi. a federal judge has ruled that state clerks cannot recuse themselves from issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples by citing their religious beliefs. it blocks house bill 1523 that was set to become law in mississippi this friday. we'll be right back. with advil liqui-gels, you'll ask what body aches? what ke pain? what sore elbow? what joint pain? advil liqui-gels are so fast, they make pain a distant memory nothing works faster stronger or longer than advil liqui-gels the world's #1 choice
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now we're back. the w time. the who, cher, is adding her name to the veepstakes. on twitter she applaud the idea of a clinton/warren ticket but slammed tim kaine as boring. although it's a criticism kaine seems to embrace. this is what he told chuck. >> but boring is the fastest growing demographic in this country. >> maybe a kaine/cher ticket in our future. #myfirsttweet from bob dole. the 92-year young former senator joining the site this afternoon saying i'm proof that it's never too late to join twitter. the where, the east room. today president obama hosting the wnba champion minnesota lynx
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at the white house. the when, it's june 28th, 1969, the day the stonewall riots gave rise to lgbt civil rights movement. today the building becoming a national monument. the very first to honor lgbt americans. the why, more news out of the supreme court today. justices deciding they will review the north carolina gerrymandering case this fall. they'll decide whether republican lawmakers relied too heavily on race when they redrew congressional districts. the case will likely be heard too late to impact november elections but could have an impact going forward. more "mtp daily" going forward.
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what kind of a man roots for people to lose their jobs to lose their homes to lose their life savings? i'll tell you what kind of a man. a small, insecure, money grubber who fights for no one but himself. what kind of a man? a nasty man who will never become president of the united states. >> elizabeth warren there on the stump this morning with hillary clinton. the first time the two were together since strong language directed at donald trump. we want to get right to tonight's panel. national political correspondent for "the washington post," karen tumulty, john feehery and chris. thanks for being with us. karen, elizabeth warren, if this was an audition or a tryout, a lot of people would say she aced it. obviously a lot of politics behind the scenes that's needs
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to be considered for hillary clinton as she makes this choice. is she the most effective attack dog the democrats have found so far? she's accomplished what trump's republican opponents never could. >> not only base, but really seems to have a knack for getting right under his skin, which we saw right after his campaign issued a statement that seemed to be moving to this presidential pivot we have been hearing so much about, trump immediately went back to the old trump and was attacking her as i think he even used pocahontas again. >> chris, is she too strong of a figure to be hillary clinton's vp? is this a historic ticket, or a ticket that just has i guess the ingredients necessary for what could be a really challenging partnership? >> i think it depends. it really depends on what the campaign is looking for. you are clearly not going to choose elizabeth warren because you're concerned about winning massachusetts.
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but you know, if you want someone who is a very pointed attack dog, who clearly gets under trump's skin, and i think speaks to the progressive base, she would be an effective choice. my instinct tells me they will go in a different direction, probably someone like kaine and someone like that mold, but i think these, you know, so-called try-outs have significance because you saw the crowd react and campaigns internally react to that. they consider that a factor. >> talk a little bit about donald trump's response to this today. they put out a statement today, it was well crafted, then pretty much the same few minutes the statement came out with the attack as warren as a sell-out as they called her, he described her as a fraud, a racist and pocahontas and one of his advocates, partners, surrogates, whatever scott brown is officially now, came out and said she should take a dna test
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to prove her native american heritage. >> to chris' point, no one gets under trump's skin more than elizabeth warren. she is able to put him down in ways that obviously irritate him. he ripped up the statement and said attack. i think the one thing she does for the republicans is unifies once again that business community with the republican populist communicate. >> is that why she's too dangerous? >> she will energize the democratic base but will drive a lot of the financial community back to trump away from clinton. they all think clinton's a moderate. this will disabuse them of that notion. >> another concern hillary clinton would have, because she's been in the white house where there's been sort of sibling rivalry in the past, is actually does she want somebody with as big of a constituency of her own as elizabeth warren in the white house. >> the point i was making. that's a real challenge. >> the bigger challenge for trump is to the point about getting under his skin, if you make a presidential pivot and it
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lasts less than a day, you have a major malfunction in your campaign. this just proves it once again. >> on that thought when we asked him about the trump 2.0, remember when corey lewandowski was fired, paul manafort went to the lead of the campaign, trump says yeah, we're focused. today he said no, no, no, i'm going to stick with what's been working for me. >> not a pivot, a pirouette. >> exactly. he says i don't care, i do me was his answer. >> that's right. trump is trump. you are not going -- he's not going to magically reinvent himself in two days. maybe he will get a better campaign. maybe he will have better campaign people, maybe have a real campaign. >> maybe another trip to scotland. >> as a republican, as you watch the last several weeks which were awful, he conceded as much, then goes to scotland and spent most of the time frankly promoting himself and the falling pound benefits him. >> this is a very odd campaign. i don't think any republican could think otherwise. the fact is that despite a terrible, terrible month, he's only five to ten points down.
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so you know, if they can get this campaign in any kind of shape, he can make this a real race. >> you know your campaign's in trouble when your surrogates, god love john, goes the campaign's only down five to ten points. that really is a statement, a testament. he could be doing worse. >> today there was a historic day, the supreme court basically overturning the decision in texas, right now obviously about the access to abortion clinics. donald trump hasn't commented on this today. it's just striking, i guess the unconventional nature of the campaign given that this is such a divisive issue that should rally people within his own base and perhaps others who care about the makeup of the court that will be driven and determined by whoever becomes the next president. >> because anything that donald trump says on abortion is also a reminder that he is a relatively recent convert. >> his comments to chris matthews where he said women should be punished, language he
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backed off of. >> right. history suggests that the real intensity in voting on this issue is on the anti-abortion side. so in some ways, he probably doesn't want to get in the way of what could be kind of organically happening. >> the fact is it didn't make much of a difference. it's 5-3. it could have been 5-4 if you put a republican on there. this is one of the rare times the court decided -- >> would have been unaffected. >> exactly. >> this shows how conflicted this campaign is. another republican candidate would have jumped on this. here you have a campaign and candidate who does not know who he is, what he stands for, or what he believes. so on any given day on any issue, the campaign let alone the candidate himself does not know what they are going to say. that is paralysis. >> who buffers the trump campaign as vice president? conservatives, evangelicals met with him last week will be watching that very closely for
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some reassurance. >> what i think helps the evangelical community is hillary clinton. i'm not sure if -- i think what he needs on the ticket is some credibility. someone who actually knows how to campaign, knows how to run a campaign, knows something about governing. >> energize people that may not vote at the top of the ticket. >> the gamble for republicans is that hillary clinton will energize the republicans enough as long as you are a candidate who doesn't keep falling all over himself like trump does. >> that's what we have been witnessing so far. we'll be right back. s. s. but i'd like to keep being terrible at golf for as long as i can. new patented ensure enlive has hmb plus 20 grams of protein to help rebuild muscle. for the strength and energy to do what you love. new ensure enlive. always be you.
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that's going to do it for us tonight. chuck will be back tomorrow with more "mtp daily." "with all due respect" begins right now. i'm john heilemann. >> i'm mark halperin. on the show tonight a work week that started with a political bang. yeah, your brexit aftermath. your pair of blockbuster supreme court decisions which we will talk about. you also got two democratic party superstars sharing a cincinnati stage and drawing attention galore. the fact they are both women and one is reportedly eyeing the other to join her on the democratic ticket turned a


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