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it's good to be with you. i'm francis rivera. msnbc world headquarters in new york. it's 2:00 here on the east coast. 11:00 a.m. out west. and 1:00 p.m. in dallas. a city still in shock after thursday's tragedy. these police cruisers now ado adorned in flowers as residents pay tribute to the five officers killed and seven others wounded. protests nationwide from phoenix to rochester, new york turned confrontational last night. police in rochester arresting 74 people at a black lives matter
rally. and president obama spoke about this week's tragedies about an hour and a half ago. first of all, as painful as this week has been, i firmly believe that american is not as divided as some have suggested. americans of all races and all backgrounds are rightly outraged by the inexcusable attacks on police, whether it's in dallas or any place else. >> we heard from the lawyer for the minnesota police officer who shot and killed a black man earlier this week. the attorney saying his client reacted to the presence in display of a gun not race. and we'll go live to minnesota later this hour. we start this afternoon with new details about the dallas gunman. 25-year-old micah xavier johnson. while on tour in afghanistan
john soson was accused of sexua harassment. he was never convicted of any criminal offense and johnson was given an honorable discharge despite an army recommendation against it. in dallas people came to pay their respect for the five police officers killed and seven others who were injured in thursday's mass shooting. joe fryer joins us from dallas. thank you for being with e. tell us about the mood of the city two days after the shooting. >> reporter: obviously hitting the city hard. this is a weekend and people are free from work and they're able to visit the memorial that continues to grow outside the department. we're learning more about the five police officers who were killed. i spent a good part of this morning with the parents of officer patrick zamarripa who was 32 years old. a bike officer who often worked
downtown. he served three tours in new york -- iraq. he had a wife, stepson, and 2-year-old daughter. they feel it's important to try and share his story. his father, rick, told me something interesting. he said he would like to see a memorial built for the officers. not just the five officers killed in the dallas shooting but all officers from the dallas area. the reason he wants to see it is so patrick's daughter, when she grows up, she can see and know how her father sacrificed his life to is a many others. the other police officers that died michael smith, 55-year-old, the oldest. brett thompson the officer with dart.a.r.t. dartart.a.r.t. he had just gotten married. and michael krol moved to dallas
because he wanted to help people. >> nbc joe fryer for us in dallas. thank you very much. six of the seven people injured are still in the hospital today recovering from their injures in thursday night's mass shooting. nbc's tammy lightener joins us outside baylor university medical center in dallas. what can you tell us about the conditions there? >> reporter: francis, one patient -- one officer has been released from the hospital, but the others are still here being treated. and we spoke with the doctor who was working in the er and a nurse at the time and they described the scene of just organized chaos and everybody coming in at once. let's listen to what they had to say. we had very little warning. it took everybody by surprise. we got word of officers injured and we had no idea of how many.
we use the phrase organized chaos. >> these are police officers that come in every day to our hospital organization. so we know these guys. to have see them in these situations is horrific. >> reporter: that nurse that was actually speaking there is married to a police officer, and she described that moment when she was treating all of these victims and realized suddenly they were all police officers. she said it was just heartbreaking. we also spoke with the sister of a woman who was shot in the leg while trying to protect her children, and she said that she's just grateful she wasn't shot anywhere else and her kids are okay. >> so difficult. i can imagine with many of the families. we saw the tributes being paid there in dallas the memorial. do you see any there in the hospital as far as people in support gathering outside and hoping to great some of these people? especially the ones released today? >> reporter: people are not gathered outside, but i can tell
you what we're seeing. on the other side of the hospital, which you can't see now, there's been a steady line of police cars, police officers from all over the state of texas coming to pay their respects. hopefully, that their fellow officers will be okay. >> certainly that's the case as we're taking an image now of that. any indication on when the other patients, when the other people might be released? >> no. we know that, you know, some of the officers were shot in the back. as i said, the woman i spoke to whose sister was shot in the leg, she's still here. so some of the ones with more serious injures, obviously, won't be released any time soon. >> reporter: all right. thank you so much. i appreciate it. tammy lightener with us from dallas. i appreciate it. well, this week's police-involved shootings of minnesota and louisiana sparked protests. in rochester, new york 74 people were arrested. most for disorderly conduct. in phoenix police clashed with
protesters sfrag them with pepper spray. most of the protests were peaceful as the nation tries to grapple with the divide. joining us is the president of the naacp. thank you for being with us. we as we were watching it unfold with the protests we saw on friday. what was your take? even more importantly, your message to those who are in protest. >> well, i think the message is the same as it has been. the issue they are protesting and many of us have been working on is an important issue. it's an constitutional issue. it's an issue about the rule of law. it's an issue about the lives of black people. and it's about the need to deal with excesses when police pull over black people or stop black people we had two terrible, terrible killings this week that gripped the nation in the 48
hours prior to the tragic murder of the five police officers. it's important to understand that these are two separate issues. the man who is alleged of committing this act against the five police officers went on a murderous spree. he's a protester, activist, or believer in the rule of law, and that makes him different than the people who have been protesting across 30 cities than those of us working over the last three years working diligently on the peaceful reform. i think the protests you saw, in many ways, reinforced the difference of what they're trying to accomplish and the terrible thing the shooter did. it's important for us to keep that distinction in mind. >> how do you do that in making sure distinction, that difference is made known especially known this culture. young people are raised to believe that police officers are bad. you're a person to get you if you're a person of color. how can you start beyond the
dialogue in making sure the difference is made. >> the best way, i think, for that distinction to be very clear is to have dialogue between law enforcement and people in the communities that they serve. i think particularly now in light of this week, the deaths of the two individuals who were killed by police officers, and deaths -- the murders of the police officers. the dialogue between police officers and law enforcement and the communities where they serve has to actually increase. there has to be open communication in advance much protests. not when protests are happening. about the expectations of how we can trust one another. about where protesters are going to be walking about. what they're constitutional rights are. the only way that we can be clear that the people who are out protesting and who are out talking about the need to end police violence against unarmed or unthreatening african-americans is to make sure there is dialogue happening. that we're recognizing that the rule of law is what should
govern not only civilians but also govern police officers and adhere to that rule of law. >> certainly with the hopes of that dialogue will lead to action that will make the difference. thank you so much for your time. >> thank you. now back to dallas. joining me is states attorney general ken paxton. sir, i appreciate your being with me. i understand there are so many family members and members of the community that you're meeting with. especially in the past 48 hours. i know right after the shooting you went out and you said the people of texas need to come together by encouraging law enforcement. giving them that reassurance. tau talk about how you can be effective in doing that gen the divide we've seen and so prevalent when it comes to certain communities and tensions and police. >> you know, it's been amazing to me. it was obviously a very shocking event. it was very sad. i was just over at the police headquarters. i was at the memorial, and there's certainly a lot of sadness, but i believe that in
the end dallas and north texas and all of texas is going to come together, one, to support our police officers and encourage them. two, to remember the families and encourage the families and not forget what these brave men of the dallas police department and the dallas transit authority did for this city. >> you decided this is a possible learning moment for the community, as well, especially given the ironies. you have people protesting, criticizing law enforcement, the agencies, police but yet again shots ring out and they run to them to protect themselves. talk about how you see that and how that can be effective in making a difference and easing these tensions. >> you know i think that's the greatest story of the whole incident. obviously this is a very sad time for us and obviously a very bad impact on families in our community. but what the dallas police did in going out to protect people that actually disagreed with them and when the actual terror
event occurred, they were there to run towards protecting these people. i think that's a really amazing story. and i believe in the end that the purpose of this will be that it will help unite people and make them realize there can be a way for the law enforcement and the communities to work together in a positive way. >> sir, do you believe this gunman acted alone. is there anybody else you're looking at? >> say that again. >> is it your belief this gunman acted alone or is there anybody else your agency is looking into? >> you know. that's a good question. i'm not sure. i know they're looking into that. there are certainly questions about whether there are cospear or its. they're interviewing people. that will be a question answered over the hopefully next couple of days and weeks. >> i have to ask you, also, when comes to the weapon used. semi automatic rifle. where do you stand as far as curbing a to those weapons and make it safer for officers
and everybody on the street. >> i'm first amendment -- i mean, second amendment. i don't think that this guy would have been deterred by any kind of gun regulations. the willing is to he was willing to violate statutes. a particular gun law isn't going to impact how this guy acted. when you have arguments from people possibly in your own state and in the wake of orlando, bernardino, all the other ones that said when it comes to these assault rifles. maybe there wouldn't have been five officers who were killed. >> well, you know, i wish that there was some magic ball here. but the reality in texas we've believed in the second amendment. we believe that law-abiding citizens have the right to protect themselves. in this case, people that are willing to murder people are not going to follow other laws anymore they're going to follow a law that prevents them from killing people. we've believed in law-abiding citizens being able to protect
themselves. i stand with those people. >> especially in the state of texas where the open carry law, sir, where do you stand with that? >> say that again. >> open carry. if you can speak to open carry laws in the argument of the open carry laws in texas. >> you know that was recently passed here, and again, it's designed to protect law-abiding citizens. so open carry is something that we have passed in the last year or two, and i think it's working just fine. and, again, for those who are not going to follow the statutes related to killing people, they're not going to follow any law related to guns. it's designed to protect law-abiding citizens. >> but as far as access, some will argue to the access. to make it more difficult. another barrier out there >>well, there's nothing wrong with having criminal background checks and checking and making sure that the wrong people don't end up with these guns, but on the other hand, we do want l law-abiding citizens to protect themselves.
they're the ones most at risk if they don't have the ability to protect themselves when there's no law enforcement around. >> texas attorney general, thank you for your time. i appreciate it very much, ken paxton. up next the dallas shootings' impact on capitol hill. i'll be joined by blake farenthold to discuss whether they will push for new gun laws in the wake of thursday's tragedy. before i had the shooting, burning of diabetic nerve pain, these feet learned the horn from my dad and played gigs from new york to miami.
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rhetoric in the wake of this week's tragic events. joining me to thought about this is congressman blake fairn hold it of texas. sir, thank you for your time this afternoon. as u i want to get your take when you hear from president obama speaking today about the number of protests last night and even saying that america is not as divided as some will suggest. do you believe our political leaders have done enough to calm the public? >> i think we do need to be doing that. it's the media, too, that is feeding it. i was standing doing -- getting ready to do an interview with you guys on thursday. you have one of the most powerful, emotional stories about the shooting. just listening to the audio i was almost moved to tears, and the coverage in the media as well as is adding to that. we have to slow down and get the facts and feg your out how to address it. >> tell me how it's feeding into it. it's our job here, my job, to get the word out of the latest here and ask the questions.
ask the questions of how it happened, why it happened, and how we can prevent it from happening again. so, you know, we take this job very seriously, very responsibly as the fine line of not feeding to the fears of the public and concns of the public but informing. >> i'm a radio television film major, i worked in broadcasting since i was a teen. indian the necessity of getting the story out and how important it is for people to know and the impact for good the media can have but just like anybody else, it's easy to get wrapped up in the emotion of the story and i'm not criticizing. i think y'all did a great job in reporting, but part of the problem is that it's -- we've got all the video that is so powerful. right now both dallas, boinaton rouge and the entire situation. to some people it pulls at their heart to want to do something now. what we've got to do is let the
police and investigators do their job. i don't think there's anybody who doesn't want to find a way to stop it from happening. and the thing is, the police in dallas were doing it right. there was an african-american police chief who was active in community policing. one of the officers shot was a bike officer getting the police officers out of the cars and into the community is doing it right. >> what kicould have prevented ? dallas police department has been praised with their community policing. with their murder rates down, and, also, you know, when it comes how they're reaching out to communities. what could have been done differently this time? >> i think consistently i think dallas it was -- we don't know for sure what was happening but it looks like a fair amount of planning behind this event in dallas. we need to let the police get to the bottom of it and find out. but you've also got to be very sympathetic to police officers. i don't think people are necessarily sympathetic enough.
i went through something they do here in corpus christi called the citizens police academy in the '90s. they do a don't shoot exercise. the technology in the '90s they went to a shooting range and put up slides and you had to determine under a second, sometimes, whether it was a good guy or bad guy. that training technology now and video and other technologies has gotten so much better. we have to make sure the officers are well trained, but they're never going to be 100%. >> congressman, i have to ask you about this. especially with other members of congress and, you know, the push for gun control and legislation there. and, you know, this very well after the sit in that we saw and now returning back. we saw yesterday the chair of the congressional black caucus issuing a passionate plea for gun control saying when it comes to you and your party, republicans, what on earth. why are you recoiling and not giving us a debate on gun violence? what is your response? >> well, what is being asked for right now is no fly-no buy.
we don't have any evidence that any of the recent attacks would have been stopped by denying weapons to folks on the no-fly list. so the solutions that they're pitching right now are for problems that we aren't -- that haven't manifested themselves. >> but it's also saying, hey, if you can't fly, why are you able to go about and buy a firearm. also, the other measure that was hoping to get some traction was also expanded background checks, too. i have to say your colleague eddie bernese johnson urging a ban on assault weapons as well as as far as that push. what do you believe is not only the correct legislative response but probably the most realistic? >> well, you can't infringe upon people's second amendment rights. the problem with no fly no buy. you don't know how you get on the no fly list. there's no good way to quickly get off of it. senator kennedy was on it at one time. so that's not necessarily the
solution. i do think good background checks and mental health information into the data base is important. >> how can the no-fly list be improved so that there are people aren't mistaken by on there. >>well, you know, of the proposals out there, i don't necessarily support it, is actually getting your ability to get off that in a prompt fashion. so once you're on the no-fly list trying to buy a gun, the counter proposal is you can go to court and get it resolved within three days. i'm not sure that's realistic or necessarily the best solution. i think addressing mental health issues has got to be the job one in getting that mental health information. >> over gun control, sir? >> i didn't hear you. >> over gun control? >> i think that's a part of gun control is keeping weapons out of the hands of those who are mentally ill. that's sharing that data and
making it easier for people to get help for their family members that they know have a mental health issue. we've seen instances in the past where the shootings have occurred and family members have, you know, this guy needs some help but chooses not to get it >>well, we're looking at -- >> we need to get that help. >> we're saying that after sandy hook, bernardino, orlando, and now after dallas. texas congressman blake farentho farenthold, thank you so much for being with us. thursday's shooting in dallas, of course, came two days after two deadly police shootings. one in louisiana and one in minnesota. after the break we look whether there's anything that police can and should do to prevent similar incidents. ♪ take on any road with intuitive all-wheel drive.
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prevented? joining me eugene o'donnell and also a former nypd officer. thank you for being with me as we talk about this. time and time again we hear so much about community outreach. training when it comes to police departments. in this case, we're talking about a model department. dallas with the murder rates down. with police misconduct down, as well. if you have somebody that hell bent on doing such destruction and killing people as we saw, is there any way to prevent it? >> well, the cops have to take reasonable steps now without violating their duty to look at people's character, which is the balancing act here. it's important, really, the fundamental issue now is to make sure that the cops don't respond to insane commentary with insane thoughts of their own. to stay centered, to stay reasonable. to realize the people you serve get the point. it's also worth noting, because there's insane talk including about immigrants in this country. one of the officers killed --
they were killing wearing police uniforms. one was a mexican-american police officer. this is what he did for his community. he gave his life for his community and did three tours overseas for his country. when we talk about the value of immigration and whether -- and what they contribute to the country, perversely in this effort to kill people indiscriminately because they're in police uniforms that's one of the people that was murdered. >> i'm glad you bring it up. there is a tragic irony in this where you're criticizing and protesting, as we've seen -- but something like this happens and then they're going to those very same people for protection. and then the other sense you have the irony, also, with police officers in this in the fear and sensitivity of going over bound when it comes to undue force. sometimes when it is necessary, they risk their own lives because they won't step in far enough. >> that's right. it's not either/or.
the vast majority of people, the police people are there for the right reasons. vast majority of the community people are reasonable. the conversation can get taken over by extremists, and extremism begets extremism. crazy commentary begets crazy commentary. i would beg the cops not to screen out the crazy stuff. >> how do you do that? it's out there and so prevalent as we've seen time and time again with the communities with t tensions between police officers. the racial tensions that is there, too. is it that easy for a uniformed police officer to stop the noise as the commentaries you're talking about? >> well, you know, if anybody has been in an emergency room the night a police officer gets kill killed i've never seen anybody say what race is this officer, what gender is this officer? so that's the kind we have to replicate and create the
solidarity when we have police in the broader community so we're not thinking along those lines. >> how do you counter that for families of victims where it's hard to mend. you hear of something like this happening and i don't know if the cop is going to protect me. i don't know if the cop is going to turn his gun on me. >> we got to watch the humanzation of humans. and the people kill ed these ar not december per rad owes or shooting people. even this man was mentally unstable. the dmomzation begets demonzation. i think people will be would be surprised they're not -- there's a lot of people there that get there. it's trying to recenter them. >> and that being where the working difficulty is and eugene o'donnell, thank you. >> thank you. after this we'll go live to
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see what the power of points can do for your business. learn more at chase.com/ink if you are just joining us here is what we know at this hour. president obama is defending his call for stricter gun laws in the wake of thursday's tragedy in dallas. he made the comments minutes ago in warsaw, poland, where he's attending a nato summit. i want to start moving on constructive actions that are actually going to make a difference because that is is what all americans want. >> we're learning new details about the dallas shooter johnson was in the army reserves. he was given an honorable discharge despite the army recommending against it after a sexual harassment claim. hundreds protest the death of aldon sterling was killed
earlier this week during an arrest by two white officers. the lawyer for one of the officers involved in the fatal shooting of t inin ining f plan >> the officer has been interviewed by state investigators looking into the case. this is the first time we're hearing from the officer through his attorney. the officer's name is jeronimo yanez. the statement reads officer yanez is cooperating completely with law enforcement. he, of course, is deeply saddened for the family of ph ilando castilcastile. again it has nothing to do with race and everything to do with the presence of a gun. now a little back story. we know from the girlfriend who
was in the car at the time c castile was shot. he was reaching for his identification. he told the officer i have a weapon. i have a permit to carry the weapon. that is apparently when the officer fired. the officer appears to be claiming that he believes he was reaching for the gun and that's why he opened fire. that statement you just heard does not go anywhere as far as the girlfriend had been hoping for. take a listen. zblild like for that police officer to look me in my eyes look me in my eyes, officer. my hands are up. why? why, officer? i don't want anything from you but an apology. i want a public apology.
>> reporter: so far she's not getting the public apology from the officer who is instead claiming he fired because the presence of a gun not because of that man's race. protests continue here in minnesota. last night the reverend jesse jackson making a surprise appearance before protesters. back out here live in front of the governor's mansion, a small encampment remains. there was talk about officers coming in and potentially removing these protesters, but right now we have not seen that happen. by my count, there's about 50 people out here now. >> it doesn't appear to be too many people and the ones there seem to be very peaceful at that. thank you very much. blake mccoy in saint paul, minnesota. thank you. a missouri police officer is critical but stable condition after apparent ll lly ambushed. authorities charged 31-year-old antonio taylor with three felonies including assault and weapons charging after he shot the police officer during a traffic stop in missouri.
the officer pulled taylor over for speeding. as the officer returned to process paperwork, taylor opened fire with a semi automatic handgun. he fled but captured after brief foot chase with police. on friday the immigration released a travel warning for those traveling to the united states. that warning read in part the ministry of foreign affairs and immigration has taken a note of the recent tensions in some american cities over shootings of young black males by police officers. we wish to advise all bahamians traveling to the u.s., but especially to the affected cities to exercise appropriate caution generally. do not be confrontational and cooperate. up next the impact thursday's tragedy in dallas will have on how police and protesters interact.
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prior to the shooting in dallas, the dallas police department shared photos of their officer supporting and protecting protesters, but will the shooting change how police interact with protest in the future. we talk about this and even how this conversation, as there are some protest s planned for this afternoon and later today. how do you think the shooting will affect how police go about in making sure protesters are protected but make sure there's no violence. especially lit the kind we saw in dallas. >> i think certainly the cops will be more vigilant, and in doing their jobs, the heros that they truly are. they will make sure they're protecting the public, but at the same time protecting themselves. we've been seeing it more of patrols have two partners working together. so they do have to really cover
their backs now. i don't think there are going to be anymore angry working with the protesters. because these are peaceful protests. these are two groups, if you look at it, the civilians and police officers who have had losses. who are both in grieving. and i believe care for one another. >> when you also look at these protests we see especially last night in upstate new york where we saw that get out of hand with the 70 plus people getting arrested. when you have the message that is being put out there and having it being so emotionally and passionately it driven it's a delicate balance when it comes to these police officers. so it's not this us versus them environment that can be so dangerous and even deadly. that's i don't think we've talked enough about. i know you have covered it here. even when the shootings were taking place a couple of days ago in dallas, that those cops
ran towards the bullets. they were protecting the civilians, even before protecting themselves. i think it speaks, in many ways, about what we're about in this nation. it is about respecting one another. yes, there are major issues as far as police brutality. we saw what happened with the cops being attacked. people on opposite sides but more than anything, and tend to come through as americans in the face of tragedy is coming together. listening to one another. trying to understand where we're coming from and not being on separate sides but actually improving in the way we interact with one another. that's the message i see a lot of people are putting out there on both sides. >> i brought it up with my discussion with the texas attorney about the irony he saw. yes, these protesters were criticizing, protesting against the police department and police in general. but yet seeking their protection
when shot s rang out and the irony of that. how does that play into the psyche of a police officer or even -- for protesters as well when they're trying to get the message out. >> whing you're looking a the police officer psychologically, of course, they're going to be much moroused as to what is going on. they feel misunderstood. they feel they're under emotional critical attack, in many ways, which they are. and sometimes for some of the right reasons. but more than anything, they want to be able to show that the actions of a few do not speak for the whole police forces in this country. and that's what they have proven by taking care of the protesters even though they're being shot at. as for the protesters, of course, they're peacefully protesting but putting the message that we can do better. >> day-to-day when it comes to operations and an officer putting the badge and heading out on the streets. how will it affect that given you have such sensitivity with
use of force. unnecessary use of force, deadly force, and the thought of a police officer as saying he may now be overly cautious in not wanting -- and maybe harm himself in the process or have himself harmed. >> certainly, if they're trying to be overly cautious it may not be a bad thing. will it cause certain errors as far as taking care of themselves. that can certainly happen. every police officer, i've worked with many, when they go out there they know there's a chance they may not come back. they've taken an oath and that's to protect the public. they know that's their job. and they're willing to make those sacrifices chai s each an day. it's just another day for them. but with this happening in dallas, of course, it exacerbates the situation for them. it's going to be tougher. ptsd, we're going it see that.
post-traumatic stress disorder with many police officers. there will be a lot of grieving. thinkable is a time for us to come together and talk and listen to one another as to what we need to do as far as getting along in our society. >> thank you. we appreciate helping us understand the psychology behind it and what needs to happen when the healing starts. psychologist jeff guardere. >> the different responses from hillary clinton and donald trump to thursday's shootings in dallas. ♪ uh oh. oh. henry! oh my. good, you're good. back, back, back. (vo) according to kelley blue book, subaru has the highest resale value of any brand. again. you might find that comforting. love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru.
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both the presumptive nominees offer condolences. hillary clinton called for more understanding between white and black americans in a speech at the american national convention ame, i should say. national convention in philadelph philadelphia. donald trump said in a video statement we must stand in solidarity with law enforcement. nbc hallie jackson has been following the trump campaign. she joins me from our d.c.
bureau. trump's response to this event different than others. >> reporter: look after what happened after, for example, the orlando shooting. trump came out and tweeted a couple of things that raised eye brows like essentially i told you so. he predicted something like this would happen. very different now after the dallas shootings. trump striking a more restrained tone. something more subdued than oftentimes we frankly see from the candidate. and more scripted as well. it seems to be a sign of the growing influence of his advisors. listen to the facebook video
he posted late friday. watch. >> a brutal attack on our police force is an attack on our cup and an attack on our families. we must stand in solidarity with law enforcement, which we must remember is the force between civilization and total chaos. the deaths of alton sterling in
louisiana and philando castile in minnesota make clear how much more work we have to do to make every american feel their safety is protected. >> reporter: trump's critics accused trump being the one to contribute to the culture of divisiveness. trump striking a more inclusive tone. he cancelled his campaign events. he had been intending to deliver a speech on economic opportunity aimed at latinos that is going to talk about the issues of inclusiveness and diversity in the united states. >> we'll see if he picks it up another time. nbc's hallie jackson in washington. thank you very much. i want to turn to kasie hunt following the democrats today. she joins me, also, from our d.c. bureau. as hillary clinton spoke forcefully against the violence this week, particularly about police-involved shootings in
minnesota and baton rouge. >> that's right, francis. particularly reflective day yesterday for hillary clinton. all though it was a bit chaotic behind the scenes as they grappled with how to respond to these shootings in dallas. they, of course, called off events they were supposed to hold
with vice president joe biden in scranton, pennsylvania. but she kept an appointment with the ame church conference in philadelphia. this is a conference of black pastors at a church that was founded by a former slave. so it was pretty significant that she chose this audience to speak to. and she talked a little bit about urging white americans to put themselves in black american's shoes. take a look. >> white americans need to do a better job of listening. when african-americans talk about the seen and unseen
barriers you face every day we need to try as best we can to walk in one another's shoes. >> she also talked, though, about the police officers, their families, and what they are grappling with, as well. trying to make sure that both side were addressed in that address that she gave. trying to urge overall calm here. and i do think that the moment felt different on the campaign trail, francis, than after some of the other tragedies. >> and very quickly, what is next for her given the fact that the president is going to be going to texas. we have a few more days of mourning there a. what can we expect from hillary clinton? >> we're not expecting her to campaign this weekend or on monday. we were anticipating she would appear in new hampshire on tuesday. as of now that's still on in portsmouth. the question whether or not she'll be joined by bernie sanders who is expected to potentially endorse her as early
as this week. >> kasie hunt for us in washington. thank you. that does it for me today. i'm francis rivera. thank you for being with me. chris jansing takes over our coverage when we return. from food alone. let's do more. add one a day women's 50+ complete multivitamin. with vitamin d and calcium to help support bone health. one a day.
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