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make sure you check out bloombergpolitics.com. for now, sayonara. >> coming up, "hardball" with chris matthews. halloween politics. let's play "hardball." good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. fallout from fbi director james comey's bombshell announcement last week reverberated on the campaign trail today. on friday, comey told congress that the fbi had learned of new e-mails that appear to be pertinent, appear to be pertinent, to the investigation into clinton's use of a private server. today, donald trump praised comey for his guts. hillary clinton called the decision to go public this close to an election pretty strange.
nbc news reports that since sunday night, fbi officials had been going through the e-mails, which belonged to a top clinton aide, huma abedin. the e-mails were found on a computer belonging to her estranged husband, anthony weiner. two former attorneys general, eric holder, and alberto gonzalez, criticized comey. eric holder wrote, i am deeply concerned about fbi director james b. comey's decision to write a vague letter to congress about e-mails potentially connected to a matter of public and political interest. that decision was incorrect. it violated long-standing justice department policies and tradition. and it ran counter to guidance that i put in place four years ago, laying out the proper way to conduct investigations during an election season, closed quote. anyway, albert gonzalez had this to say earlier today. >> i didn't understand it. i didn't understand what he was saying, what he was trying to say, i didn't understand the purpose of the letter. to me, it was very inconsistent with the protocols that
presently exist at the department of justice. you typically do not comment on investigations, on ongoing investigations, and, of course, that protocol was breached this past summer, when director comey gave that press conference, talking about the investigation. i really worry that in this particular instance, the fbi director has made an error in judgment in terms of releasing this kind of letter, which really says nothing. >> well, also today, nbc news reported that the fbi has been conducting a preliminary inquiry into paul manafort, of course, donald trump's former campaign manager, for his business ties overseas. it's called an inquiry, not a full-blown criminal investigation. manafort said he never had dealings with vladimir putin's government, and said he was aware of no investigation into the matter. late today, tim kaine knocked comey over a cnbc report that the fbi director didn't want to name russia as meddling in the u.s. election, according to a former law enforcement contributor who spoke to nbc
news. he felt it might violate justice department guidelines. we are putting it all together right now. joining me is nbc news justice correspondent, pete williams. what a day, too much news, a lot to figure out, but you're the guy. do we have any evidence, just to clear the air, left, right, and center for all viewers, does the report that came out friday evidence any indication that hillary clinton is guilty of anything besides what everybody else may have thought, generally, before? any evidence of criminal misbehavior by her, offbecause this report? >> no, and it couldn't have. at the time the director wrote the letter, the fbi had not analyzed the e-mails on the laptop computer belonging to weiner, because they didn't have the legal authority to look at them in detail. they got that on sunday night. and for the last 24 hours or so, they have been going through these e-mails. but we don't know what the results of that are yet. they had hoped, chris, that they could perhaps say something in the next day or so.
there was some optimism about that sunday and this morning, but that's fading a little bit, but no one is for sure -- is sure how long it's going to take. but we just don't know that they have found anything new in this collection of e-mails. and that's the critical question. >> well, since the process is now public, that they're looking through the 650,000 e-mails to try to isolate those that would have been sent during her term as secretary of state, i assume there would be a way of quickly getting down to the subset of those important documents. since that's a doable job, it's the task at hand, could we have by the end of the week a progress report that says, so far, we've found nothing troubling or nothing criminal, or something like that that contains the possible consequences of this report last friday? >> yes, i think the answer to that is yes, if they're done. that's the fbi's goal to say what they can say. the justice department fully
concurs. they sent a letter today to members of congress who had written to comey and to the attorney general on friday, and they said now that they're committed to moving as expeditiously as possible. >> and we have no idea what that would mean, a success by friday, the last big news window before the election. >> no way to tell. >> great reporting, thank you, pete williams. i know you'll be leaning over their shoulder like a helicopter mom for the next week. >> since friday, donald trump has spent plenty of time talking about the news. let's watch him. >> the fbi would never have reopened this case at this time, unless it were a most egregious criminal offense. hillary set up an illegal server for the obvious purpose of shielding her criminal conduct from public disclosure and exposure. we all know about hillary's mounting legal troubles. that she's brought on to herself, with her willful and
deliberate criminal misconduct. this is the biggest scandal since watergate. hillary is the one who broke the law, over and over and over again. we can be sure that what is in those e-mails is absolutely devastating. >> let's bring in kellyanne conway, she's, of course, campaign manager. kellyan kellyanne, thank you so much. i've known you forever, but let's get to the problem tonight. does donald trump know anything beyond what we heard from the director of the fbi on friday? does he have any independent information about the criminality, if there is such criminality, by the secretary of state -- former secretary of state? does he have anything beyond -- >> no, no, we do not. but i was completely confounded that hillary clinton today at a rally said, why in the world would an fbi do this investigation, interfere with the election, if they have no evidence? and she knows that's a misstatement. i know she and her staff are very fond of the fifth amendment, but they ought to get a refresher on the fourth amendment. you know, chris, you can't get a
search warrant without some kind of evidence. that's what we have here. >> what is the evidence? >> it's not like -- huma abedin -- >> what is the evidence? >> we don't know! >> you say there's evidence. how do we know there's evidence? >> chris -- excuse me, you cannot get a search warrant under the fourth amendment without some kind of evidence that justifies you to get a search warrant. everyone knows that. if the clinton people really want to know, if they claim they want to know, ask comey to reveal the search warrant. >> but the investigation of hillary clinton's possible misuse or mishandling of classified information is an ongoing investigation. isn't that investigation got authority to continue and to get the necessary warrants to complete it? >> sure. >> why would it have to show criminal investigation, since the investigation has never really been called off, it's continuing, why would it need evidence of criminality to continue? that's what i don't get. it isn't a brand-new investigation, it's an ongoing investigation. why would it require evidence or probable cause of criminality at this point to proceed?
>> to retrieve somebody's laptop who failed -- who actually violated the law and failed to urn it over. pardon? >> they have the laptop. they've been investigating it with regard to the alleged sexting by the former congressman. but they -- >> alleged? we've all seen his pictures? >> but this additional warrant, i don't think that requires evidence or probable cause of criminality, because it's an ongoing investigation. >> and chris, i don't think anybody -- >> that's what i think is a good point. do you have a response to that? >> yeah, well, no, my point's good too. that you wouldn't under the fourth amendment to be able to get all these search warrants without further evidence. i read the same reports that you read. and the reports i read over the weekend claimed that when perhaps fbi agents started reading through these e-mails, closed them up, and said, there's something there. or i guess people who are investigating anthony weiner's pedophilia closed it up and said, there's something there. but listen, to the electorate, it dsn't matter, and you know it. those undecided voters are decided about one big thing. they don't want streto vote for
hillary clinton. if they did, they would take the person they've known for decades and say, i think your experience is the right kind of experience, i think you represent the right kind of change, i can look past your serial lying of many decades. and you know darned well they're hesitant and reluctant to vote for her. this is going to hurt her in the polls continually. at one point, we were 12 points down last week. the statewide polls are tightening. we're going to win your home state of pennsylvania. >> if you do, you might win the presidential election, i agree with that. that's a big if. i've been watching the candidate, mr. trump, on this. he's not just saying some evidence to justify investigation or probable cause. he's accusing her of egregious criminal behavior. his charges are almost -- he says it's worse than watergate. it sounds like it's impeachable already. what evidence does he have that she's committed crimes that are impeachable, already, before she's even elected, if she's elected? what's impeachable that she's done? >> he didn't say she was impeachable. >> he said it's worse than watergate. >> and it is. perhaps it is. we don't know that yet -- >> he does. he says it is.
>> he says that corruption follows the clinton -- >> you know what, chris, he's not under investigation, let alone two of them by the fbi in the same year. let's keep our eye on the ball here -- >> i'm just wondering if the charges are not credible at this point. >> chris, why are we having this conversation in the first place? >> because the fbi has issued a report that it's continuing an investigation. >> no. >> yes, go ahead. >> this is her fault. she set up a home-brewed private server that she was not allowed to have. >> okay. >> she was lying from the beginning about it. she did it to hide e-mails. she bleach bitted 33,000 e-mails to hope that they would be permanently deleted. 17,000 others never got turned over. come on. this woman lies about lying and now we have another investigation to see if her lying about lying, perhaps, is on somebody else's laptop, in an unrelated investigation, because her closest adviser, the woman she calls her surrogate daughter, for god's sake, is married to a guy who's sexting pictures of his private parts to a -- >> you're not blaming huma for that, please?
how can you blame the two women for the behavior of the men -- >> i didn't! >> or the male in this case. >> chris, i didn't blame them. hold on, and you know it. i didn't blame them for the behavior of their husbands. in this case, i'm telling you why we're having this conversation. you're saying it's because of donald trump. i'm telling you, donald trump didn't text pictures of himself, didn't set up a private server as the secretary of state. he didn't break with protocol. he didn't use his state department as a concierge for foreign -- >> okay. >> this is all on her. >> let me ask you, before we toilet paper both houses completely, and you're doing a great job of it, kellyanne, let me ask you about paul manafort. nbc news is reporting tonight that the fbi has begun what they call a preliminary inquiry. not a full scale criminal investigation, of paul manafort's investigations with foreign interests. your thoughts? is this the reason that he left the campaign? how's that for a hard question? >> no, well -- there manafort and the campaign severed ties in august. i saw that same nbc news report you're speaking of. he said there's no investigation
that he knows of and he think it's a complete distraction. that's all i know. >> your candidate is welcome on this show. >> you got it. >> we'll talk later on the phone. thank you, kellyanne conway, campaign manager for donald trump. anyway, hillary clinton seemed to question the motives of james comey today. she's getting very tough tonight fbi director. let's watch. >> it took a lot of guts. i really disagreed with him. i was not his fan. but i'll tell you what, what he did, he brought back his reputation. he brought it back. >> let's go right now to senator claire mccaskill, democrat of missouri, and hillary clinton supporter, and the former attorney general of that state. you know the law, you know how these prosecutions work. what did you make of comey's announcement on friday, senator? >> well, technically, i wasn't the attorney general, chris. i was the elected prosecutor in kansas city. and an assistant prosecutor for a number of years. spent a lot of time prosecuting cases in the courtroom. and here's what i was taught as a prosecutor. the facts are your friend, when you're seeking justice.
and until you know the facts, keep your mouth shut. and what happened here is comey opened his mouth, when he didn't know what the facts were. it is clear they have no idea what these e-mails are. but, yet, breaking every protocol and precedent, and you know, when you have chuck grassley, the republican chairman of the judiciary committee, writing a letter today, saying you're not being fair to secretary clinton, that is verbiage right out of chuck grassley's letter. >> we d't know -- we're shooting in the dark here. because the fbi has announced they're looking into -- well, they're going to look into these e-mails. the reporting has said that. and the question, of course, is whether they have met data, did they know where these e-mails were coming from. if they knew where they were coming from the former secretary of state at the time she was secretary of state to huma abedin and somehow found their way on to anthony weiner's phone or desktop or -- i guess it was his laptop. if that all happened, isn't that
evidence that they should be looking at? shouldn't they be looking at that evidence? >> it's fine they're looking at the evidence. >> that's what they're reporting they're doing. >> but the point is, he should not be telling anyone about an investigation -- >> they can't do it without a warrant. >> they didn't have to get a warrant, but they did get a warrant. you know, because they probably could have worked out a way to get permission, although it's a little tricky, because it was on weiner's computer. but the point is, chris, that when he wrote the letter, he had no facts. and he's got the resources to tell us what's in those e-mails. he's got over 13,000 fbi agents and a budget of over almost $9 billion. and -- >> what do you want him to do now? what do you want now? you have leverage now. you can't have him stop what he did on friday. do you want him to report by the end of the week or the next 24 hours, 48 hours -- >> absolutely. >> if there's no evidence of criminality, say so. >> absolutely. all hands on deck. all hands on deck, because, i
think when you look at the breadth and depth of investigation they conducted, dozens and dozens and dozens of fbi agents, and comey said, it wasn't even close in terms of there being any criminal conduct. and all of the people who investigated the crime agreed there was no criminal conduct, that took a year! and they looked at a lot more e-mails than they looked at, that are supposedly irrelevant on this computer. >> senator, i have great respect for you and have for a long time. when you think about who's the enemy of your party here, who's the enemy of hillary clinton trying to hurt her campaign? i think that's the implication here. is it the republican party led by jason chaffetz over in the house, the rnc, the candidate, trump, or is it the institution of the fbi, which is probably pro-prosecution, they're probably conservative men and women over there, mostly men. it's the fbi! as they said on friday night, it's not the peace corps. they have a attitude about who they think are bad guys. so, my question is, what is
driving the fbi director? why did comey do this, according to your thinking? >> i think he probably tried too hard to do more than what the fbi ever does. in the summer, when he, you know, did the press conference trying to somehow appease the people, because the facts didn't support a criminal charge, so he somehow wanted to make them feel better. and once he started going down that road, he had a hard time figuring out how to stop going down that road. so i think this is his error in judgment. it has his mistake. but let me be very clear about who the problem is here. the problem is a man running for president that we don't want our children to want to be a role model. it's a man running for president who brags about grabbing wome s e's genitals and calls them pigs and dogs. it's a man running for president who has no transparency, who has stiffed contractors, lied in lawsuits, committed fraud. and by the way, has never laid
out a real plan on how he can change anything to make things better. >> if he's that bad, and i've heard this critique and i sometimes share it. if he's that bad, how could he possibly beat the former secretary of state next tuesday? how could he possibly win? how could he possibly beat her, a very qualified candidate? >> i don't believe he can. but hillary clinton has a problem, and that is, she wears the scars of decades of public service. and those scars were delivered by a republican attack machine that has chainsaws for hands. and time after time, they have come after her. and i think the american people need to take a deep breath and look and see what a fighter she is. it doesn't matter if the fbi has done something outrageous or whether there's another accusation that is without merit. she keeps fighting and she will, for america's families and i believe she'll win next tuesday and be a great president. >> thanks so much, claire mccaskill. i think she will win in missouri, but i won't ask your
comment on that. the polls are showing eight days out, and how's friday news from the fbi changing the shape of this race. we'll take a really good look at the polls and see what has changed, if anything, since friday in these days. the polling has shown wide swings over the past week. we'll take a hard look at those numbers coming up next after the commercial. plus, donald trump has seized on the clinton e-mail story throughout his campaign, going as far as to say that secretary clinton, to her face, that she would be in jail if she were the president. i don't think that helps trump. anyway, a new report shows trump's companies have guyed court orders and regularly defied hidden documents, including e-mails. we've got the reporter who broke that story tonight. there it is on the cover of "newsweek." and the three things about the presidential campaign you might not know as trump and clinton make their closing arguments to the juries, that would be us. finally, my election diary for tonight, october 31st, halloween, that's tonight, as the campaign enters its final week. and this is "hardball," the place for politics. if you're approaching 65... now's the time to get your ducks in a row. [quack!] medicare only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses.
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47-41 being the national matchup, according to us. all the other polls are different. a politico poll taken entirely after comey's announcement shows clinton maintaining a three-point lead nationally, which is the same as her margin before the fbi's investigation came out. and an online poll of 12 battleground states by cbs news and the ugov. further shows that voters are split along party lines over comey's announcement. but among independent voters, i found this very interesting. 26% say the news makes them less likely to vote for clinton, and that figure matches up to exactly with those identifying themselves as republican. so independents and republicans, look at this news from friday the same way. this comes as donald trump this week targets blue states including michigan, wisconsin, new mexico, and an obvious attempt to widen his path to victory in the electoral college. i'm joined now by the great larry sabato, the director of the center for politics down at the uva. but this is not really, i don't think as i told celinda, larry, a partisan discussion.
i want to know what you think you see in the numbers. celinda, looking at all the numbers, we had such a bombshell. i'm sure the ratings for this and all the other programs went through the roof on friday night. because when the fbi who had been the favorite of the democrats and had said there's nothing there just in july comes out and says, there's sympathetic there, we don't know what it is. all of a sudden it's bombshell. >> i think voters have no idea of what to make of it. i would say three things. first of all, over a quarter of the voters have voted already. and then the undecided vote is down to 5 or 6%. and as you said, a quarter of independents and republicans both think this is sympathetic major. what i think is the major news, three quarters of republicans say, i don't care! i've already made up my mind. >> is the cake baked? >> the cake is baked, unless there's something to reveal. and it's not revealing that you're looking at 650,000 e-mails that you have no idea what the content is and no suspicion that there's anything in there. >> larry, i'm looking at the most baked cake, which is the african-american vote, which is so solidly democratic, and has been for decades now, since the
'60s. solidly, about 90%. they're not even interested in this story. they've already made up their mind. they're democrats to the bone. they're going to vote for hillary and that's it. and hispanic voters, on the other hand, are looking at this seriously along the lines of whatever they're concerned about. they are concerned about much more so, 3 to 1, in african-american votes. your thoughts? >> well, i think latinos are pretty solidly in the democratic camp. in fact, what's been quite amazing is that clinton has been at the same level as obama finished in 2012, which was, higher than in 2008, among latinos. i don't think they'll flake away because of this. but, chris, you know, it's not so much, in my mind, at least, a question of whether clinton still wins. i think she does, unless it's dewey defeats truman again, and every single poll is wrong. and back then, you only had three polls. so this is hundreds of polls. what i think is of concern, to democrats, legitimately, is that as clinton's percentage of the
popular vote goes down, as maybe she loses some of the really close battlegrounds, if this story continues, you're going to have democrats who might have won senate seats and might have won house seats not win. it's the comey effect. >> is that lee atwater's picture behind you there, larry? >> it is. he gave that to me years ago. >> i know i'm knocking it, but he was the guy who infamously, notoriously said he would make willie horton, the guy who got charged with rape and everything after he got out on his pardon or whatever, his furlough, he said, i'm going to make dukakis's running mate. i'm amazed they haven't made anthony weiner hillary's running mate at this point. >> i thought it was amazing the man had to say it. what are we, blaming the women for the men? >> i know, it's not huma's fault. >> a lot of women have married the wrong guy. >> he wasn't sexting her. >> unfortunately. >> the fbi's announcement, friday, could further threaten
t retaking the chances of taking the senate. todd young has overcome evan bayh's former six-point lead in indiana's senate race. they're now tied 45-all. in florida, marco rubio is widening his lead over patrick murphy. a couple things. people feel like they've given the guy a whooping, like they gave marco rubio in the presidential primary. all right, he's had his whooping, i can let him back in the house. but if you show any lack of interest in being a senator youb leave for a while and come back, whether you're bob kerry or mondale, they don't put you back in. they don't let you back in. >> it's really interesting, because they think your interest was about higher ambition and not about us. we want someone totally focused on us. >> who wants the job! >> it's so interesting, they want people to lust after office, but they really want you to show complete appetite for the office you're seeking.
if you show any -- i think i'll lobby for a while and take a break, it's tough to come back. you can't come home again. >> no, that's true. although, evan bayh was in a beautiful position in the summer. he shocked the republicans by coming back in and he had 9 million leftover in his campaign account. he's beloved in indiana. his problem is, he didn't keep up his ties to indiana during the six years he was away. he was a lobbyist. and also, look, because pence was put on the ticket, and because indiana is normally a republican state anyway, trump is doing relatively well there. and you can bury somebody in coattails. obviously, clinton and the democrats hope that she buries some republicans, and i think she will, in some deeply blue states. >> that's a hell of a mixed metaphor. bury somebody in coattails. we're going to go with that tonight, larry. thank you. two guys did come back, heros of mine in different ways.
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never in history have we seen such a cover-up as this. one that includes the total destruction of 33,000 e-mails. >> hillary bleached and deleted 33,000 e-mails. >> she bleached and deleted 33,000 e-mails after a congressional subpoena. >> he hangs on to that word "bleached" like a life preserver. he loves the word "bleached." welcome back to "hardball." that was donald trump attacking, of course, hillary clinton, for deleting 33,000 e-mails from her personal server. it's a frequent and popular line of attack for the gop candidate, on the campaign trail. we've all heard it. but this week, "newsweek" magazine reported that trump's own e-mail troubles, according to the "newsweek" article, are in order to delay -- were used in order to delay court cases. trump companies have, quote, over the course of decades, systemically destroyed or hidden
thousands of e-mails, digital records, and paper documents demanded in official proceedings, often in defiance of court orders. for more on this, i'm joined by the author of the article, kirk rikenwald. this is, of course, ironic, because he's. bla been blasting away on her for the e-mails. and he's done it? >> he's done it. against court orders, he has been, in case after case, delaying production of documents and e-mails that were being demanded. and then when they finally get around, they say, oh, we deleted them. oh, they're gone. in fact, they actually said for a couple of years that a server that people were trying to get ahold of didn't exist. and they said it under oath. and then when they turned around, eventually, when they got -- when other information tupp turned up, they said, oh, yeah, the server exists, there are no e-mails on it anymore. >> most people want to know whether he's an honest businessman or not. is he? >> no. >> explain.
>> donald trump has been engaged forever in pushing things too far, in rule breaking, in -- >> is he a deadbeat? >> yes. >> most people know what that is. somebody you do business with -- first of all, you cut somebody's lawn and they don't pay you. or you're a newspaper boy and they hide on friday when you come around to collect. some people are deadbeats. they find a way of keeping a little more money in their pocket by not paying their bills. is he one of them with the big time? >> absolutely. but this is a guy who, he got $140 million loan from deutsche bank, the only bank that will still give him money. interest payment comes up, he says, i'm not paying it. and he has to go to court in order for him to pay the money. >> that's his cash management technique? don't pay your bills? do it until they sue you. and slow walk it when they sue you for documents. >> and destroy the documents while you're slow walking them. they just shredded they will. they just -- and this was not just in civil litigation. this was also when the federal
government was going after him -- >> how does he get vender ifs he has a reputation like this? why do people say, i'll put the ceiling on for you or i'll do the flooring or whatever, the wallpapering, whatever, if you know he's not going to pay you? >> because he's donald trump, and people will always give him the benefit of the doubt. plus, until now, you know, who actually -- >> what about now -- he's got a campaign guy now, fabrizio, a famous republican pollster, he owes them $750,000. >> he ain't going to see that. i mean, this is -- this is his way of working. you know, is that -- >> the people -- do people only get one shot at your piece here. congratulations on this kind of enterprising work. do people talk to you like how we're talking about him? >> i've nope donald trump since 1987. i was covering him back when i was covering the financial world. and he had that reputation then. he has a rep -- >> people will bad mouth him? >> people will bad mouth him all
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welcome back to "hardball." donald trump and hillary clinton both went on offense. have they ever been off it, as she weathers a new cloud of controversy. here's donald trump today on the campaign trail, out in michigan. >> i have to give the fbi credit. that was so bad, what happened, originally. and it took guts for director comey to make the move that he
made in light of the kind of opposition that he had with their trying to protect her, from criminal prosecution. what he did, he brought back his reputation. he brought it back. he's got to hang tough, because there's a lot of people want him to do the wrong thing. this is the biggest scandal since watergate. hillary wants to blame everyone else for her mounting legal troubles, but she has brought all of this on herself. 650,000. you know what i call that? that's the mother load. >> meanwhile, secretary clinton took on the fbi for announcing the investigation into the e-mails. the new ones, just days before election day. >> why in the world the fbi would decide to jump into an election with no evidence of any wrongdoing, with just days to go. that's a good question. and first of all, for those of
you who are concerned about my using personal e-mail, i understand, and as i've said, i'm not making excuses. i've said it was a mistake and i regret it. and now they apparently want to look at e-mails of one of my staffers and by all means, they should look at them. and i am sure they will reach the same conclusion they did when they looked at my e-mails for the last year. there is no case here. >> well, the latest "washington post"/abc news poll shows that 59% of registered voters have an unfavorable impression of both trump and clinton. her dead even, like the redskins and the bengals, dead even. for more on the scorched earth tactics in this race, let's take a look at our "hardball" roundtable, howard fineman, a familiar guy here, global editor, director of "the huffington post," susan page, with usa today, and jonathan capehart. we've got heavyweights. i think it's kind of dismal they have a 59% dead even negative.
that's high. that's not a happy -- it's halloweenish, but it's not happy for -- >> it's appropriate for halloween, and i don't think there's anybody who studies politics who's covered it the way we have for a long time for heavyweights. we've never seen a presidential campaign this negative, this sort of lacking in the lift of a driving -- >> yes! >> no talk of the future, no talk of the sunny road ahead and the hope that we would have. the word hope has basically been banished from this campaign. >> i'm with you! >> and it's grim. there's never been anything like it in our memories. >> i go back to 1952, and the only thing i can think of is '68 after bobby and martin luther king was killed. all of that stuff, we're left with an old liberal who's been around too many times, and another guy looks like he's passed his sell-by date. and we end up choosing between nixon and humphrey. humphrey was the hawk. we have to choose. it's not quite that bad.
it's close. >> that was like america compared to this. >> because one thing is -- >> why are they both -- >> why are they higher? why aren't the negatives higher given that the nuclear warfare that's gone on between the two sides? i mean, it's -- it's -- and given the nature of this campaign, because it's not just this negative, it's that it's caustic in a way that i think campaigns have not traditionally been -- >> crooked hillary, over and over and over -- >> i've never seen a campaign where a guy uses a nasty tick naple all the time. >> all the time. and his stump speech, despite this great news from his perspective, his stump speech is still the same. and i would have to disagree with howard in that, you know, this is a -- it is relentlessly negative campaign, but it's not like hillary clinton hasn't been talking about a more stronger together, hopeful future. like, i'm the nerd sitting at my desk watching these campaign rallies. and she does have a hopeful message. the problem is, it's being drowned out by, like, that -- >> but most of her --
>> her daisy ad -- >> wait, wait, wait. you're talking about ads, i'm talking about -- >> i'm talking about the -- >> look at this right now. the clinton campaign released a new tv ad today, using the original daisy girl, that young girl, from that 1964 lyndon johnson campaign ad. watch this ad
and tell me if she's still running a positive, uplifting campaign. >> this was me in 1964. the fear of nuclear war that we had as children, i never thought our children would ever have to deal with that again. and to see that coming forward in this election is really scary. >> trump asked three times -- >> three times, why can't we use nuclear weapons? >> i want to be unpredictable! >> what safeguards are there to stop any president, who may not be stable, from launching a nuclear attack? >> the commander in chief is the commander in chief. >> bomb the [ bleep ] out of them. >> okay, that was uplifting campaign of hillary clinton. >> also, that was two -- and also, they used the joe scarborough, our colleague, who once upon a time was a
republican member of congress, they used michael hayden, who was in a republican administration. so i think they're going there after the proverbial suburban, college-educated women voter. >> but you know, the most powerful part of that ad, it's not the republicans, it's not the woman, whose 6-year-old was in the original daisy ad, it's trump's own words. that's a part of the ad -- >> the words that were bleeped out. >> and also the idea, i want to be unpredictable when you're talking about nuclear weapons. >> i'm surprised they were as restrained as they were. >> even nixon who believes in the mad bomber theory. you don't actually say it. >> right, right, but also, that ad, is sort of like cancels out what i said before, but i would argue back, that you've got to do both things at once. he is -- he is a target-rich environment, when it comes to being the poster child for everything that you don't want in a president. and everything that you should fear in a person like that, being, sitting in the oval
office, literally with the country's life in his hands. here's north carolina senator, richard burr. i don't know him very well, here he is in a tough re-election fight in north carolina tonight he's in hot water for a remark that's caught on tape during a meeting with republican volunteers. in the tape, he joked that gun owners may want to put a bull's-eye on hillary clinton. let's watch. >> nothing makes me feel any better than i walked into a gun shop and there was a copy of rifle men on the counter. it's got a picture of hillary clinton on the front of it. i was a little bit shocked at that. didn't have a bull's-eye on it, but -- >> susan, why do people tell jokes, as if only the people in the room is listening. i remember gary hart talking to a gay group in l.a., making fun of the solid waste dumps in new jersey. my dad heard that in new jersey. everything hears everything now. why do they think just the gun owners? >> assume you're always being taped and every e-mail you write
is going to be read by people you don't want to read it. it's like your mother told you to behave, right? >> and why are people joking about assassinations of political figures? particularly, people running for president. >> so why are they? answer the question? >> because apparently, it plays well to that particular crowd. >> and by the way -- let's go on the record. he knows he did wrong, but he also knows he was talking to a group that liked it. >> but, chris, a theme throughout the edges of the republican campaign, and not always the edges, over the last few months, has been comparing -- talking about -- you know, thelma and louise, going off the end of the cliff, you know, there's been a lot of pretty violent language used about hillary clinton in this campaign. and barack obama, as well. >> dangerous stuff, because everybody's listening. anyway -- including people who are unstable. we're all here, we're all stable, i hope, and we're going to tell me something -- you guys, something i don't know. we'll be right back. plain to mey you recommend synthetic over cedar? "super food"? is that a real thing?
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"hardball" round table. look at that arched eyebrow. >> okay. this is something that you know and you've said a million times and i'm going to remind you of it. >> i'm ready. >> pennsylvania is the far wall for hillary. if you look at the electoral college map, trump is gaining but as long as she's got pennsylvania -- now, the republicans may take the senate race there but she's got the presidential. as long as that's the case, it doesn't work for donald. >> i completely agree. there's something about higher educated women. minorities in philadelphia, they are just -- there's just too many of them for angry white man to overcome. >> millennials is also a very important group for hillary clinton and a group for whom she still has problems. she dropped six points ang millennials in just two weeks but she has a big advantage with millennials which is the people
they listen to. 69% of the millennials tell us it's important to us what barack obama recommends. he's recommending hillary clinton. 60% say it's important what bernie sanders says they should do. what about rudy giuliani? a third. by appearance. >> great news. >> mine's really short but the clinton campaign is going full-on at war with fbi director comey at 5:00 this afternoon, robby mook, the campaign manager did a call with the press and went right on the record with the -- against the fbi director saying if you're going to go after hillary clinton on the e-mails, why aren't you going after donald trump and his ties to the russians? >> i think it's paul manafort's ties, isn't it? >> this isn't about manafort. this is about the question whether the russians have been hacking into the political system. he doesn't want to talk about
it. >> i got that. two pieces to this. thank you. arch the eyebrow one more time. anyway, when we return, my election diary for this halloween. you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. what's it like to be in good hands? like finding new ways to be taken care of. home, car, life insurance obviously, ohhh... but with added touches you can't get everywhere else, like claim free rewards... or safe driving bonus checks.
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sorry. i was describing the presidential campaign in its last dying week. i just checked and the unfavorable numbers of the two presidential candidates, and here we go. trump, 59% unfavorable. hillary clinton, 59% unfavorable. boo. just like the redskins and the bengals yesterday in london tied in overtime. a presidential campaign has been composed largely of the nasty. for trump, lying ted has given way to crooked hillary. and as it happens in most wars, one side's attack has been copied by the other. hillary clinton is now in the stretch a stop trump campaign. and this is not to say both campaigns are equally bad. that would be an absurd accusation. trump's, which started with a message of change has become nothing but a personal assault on his rival. the tragedy, eight days before the election, people have so little reason to feel good about
what is happening in this, the greatest represented democracy in human history and that's us and happy halloween. and that's "hardball" for now. "all in with chris hayes" starts right now. tonight on "all in" -- >> why in the world the fbi would decide to jump into an election with no evidence of any wrongdoing with just days to go. >> fbi director james comey under fire. >> ten days to go? i think it's disgraceful. >> criticism coming from across the political spectrum. >> i think this is probably not the right thing for comey to do. >> but is the fbi decision actually impacting voters? we'll breakdown the state of the race with over 23 million votes already cast. >> jew usa!rom lock her up to -- jew sa!