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tv   Andrea Mitchell Reports  MSNBC  February 3, 2021 9:00am-10:00am PST

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you're watching the fimt farewell for officer brian sicknick, the hearse poised to leave the capitol for the last time. the capitol he had served and defended and died in defending the capitol in the assault on january 6th. that is the east front of the
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capitol. the leaders have escorted him down to the plaza. the remains were brought down with military precision. there was the mournful playing of the bagpipes of "amazing grace" and those final steps by the pall bearers carrying a flag, as well, that had been flown by nancy pelosi over the capitol on january 7th, the day after the assault, when congress was again showing resilience and showing that they were returning to order. the motorcycle escort now for the final trip to arlington for his burial.
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>> as we see the cortege moving outside of the capitol, it will go across the bridge to arlington cemetery, across memorial bridge, this after a rare tribute. only five times in american history have we seen this tribute for a civilian lying in honor throughout the night, the visit from the president and the first lady last night. i'm andrea mitchell in washington. this has been an emotional day for members of congress, for
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their staff, especially for those who knew him well, those on the house side where he had been stationed, where he was the first to greet them every day, described as humble, honest, funny, ironic, saying their final farewells to this man, who died heroically defending the nation. our capitol hill correspondent kasie hunt is joining me and has lived the experience of the assault on the capitol and knows the emotional trauma as well as michael beschloss is with us for the historical impact, the context of what we're seeing. kasie? >> andrea, just a really remarkable day today, a chance to remember this man, this officer who gave his life defending that building where he went to work every day.
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i think, you know, having watched it myself and talking to others who have been watching the ceremony along with us who were also there, this really is one of the first opportunities that we've all had to stop and reflect on the toll of what happened, because we very quickly entered a period of intense politicking in the wake of the capitol hill riot. and now to take a breath, a chance, to take this moment to honor officer sicknick and to reflect on what everyone has been through i think has a lot of meaning certainly for the people that i'm talking to who are -- were also there that day. watching the pictures as well, andrea, the physical scars on the building where he was carried, that's where the rioters were mobbing to break into the doors. obviously, it was on all sides of the capitol, but i was looking out the windows of the russell senate office building
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to see people trying to break in from that side. i remember talking with lester holt on the day and saying, you know, usually this is where we see people who are being formally honored at the end of their lives, john mccain, george h.w. bush recently making that journey down those stairs. as you pointed out, just the fifth officer -- the fifth private citizen to be given -- to lay in honor at the capitol building. i couldn't have imagined on that day as we were in the initial moments of this that this is where we would be, that there would then be a funeral for someone who was killed on that day, coming down those very steps where we previously saw the rioters. i think you could hear in everyone's voice, and, yes, there were democrat who is spoke at the ceremony, that's simply out of tradition because they're in charge of both the house and the senate, but you could feel the emotion they felt toward
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someone who was protecting them. this is a police force solely centered on protecting congress, on protecting our legislative branch, protecting our democracy truly. and, you know, you're right to point out you used to go to work at the capitol on a daily basis earlier in your career. these are people you say hello to every morning who help you out when you get stuck in a pinch occasionally, who you laugh and joke with every single day as you walk in and out. they are fixtures. the entire force is hurting and grieving officer sicknick as of course everyone was potentially in mortal danger that day. andrea? >> and nancy pelosi reflected that in her remarks during the ceremony just this morning. let's hear from her. >> we know from his service on the capitol police force how patriotic he was. we gather today united in grief,
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gratitude, and solemn appreciation for the service and sacrifice of officer brian sicknick. our promise so brian's family is that we will never forget his sacrifice. we must be vigilant as wa president lincoln referred to as the harsh artillery of time. we will never forget. with your permission, may we be worthy to carry brian in our hearts. we will never forget. >> michael beschloss, you've watched ceremonies like this before. we had two capitol police officers years ago who were killed when someone stormed through barricades and stormed through the magnetometers and they were shot defending the capitol. but this was so much bigger, and the human tragedy for the families of course profound with the bravery that many man showed
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in the line of fire and the significance, because the capitol barely pauses to remember this, although it's imprinted on the hearts and minds and souls of all of those who experienced it that day. >> you are so right, andrea. just as you and kasie have been saying so eloquently, officer sicknick was an enormous towering hero, just as the americans who landed on d-day or iwo jima or defended our rights and democracy and way of life for over 200 years. if he were a little bit slower, if his colleagues had been a little slower or less competent on the 6th of january, you might have seen the speaker of the house, vice president of the united states assassinated along with possible other leaders. we might have also seen a hostage crisis. you might have seen an effort to suspend the 2020 presidential election. we might have seen our democracy fractured. that was what was at stake, and because of the heroism of
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officer sicknick and his colleagues, instead we're looking at something that is -- those things did not happen, but just as speaker pelosi said, we have to remember what almost did. >> and kasie and michael, stay with us with you will. i want to bring in nbc chief white house correspondent, "weekend today" host peter alexander and washington correspondent phil rucker. peter, the president and the first lady as speaker pelosi said gave officer sicknick the honor of going to pay tribute to him last night. they paused and paid honor to his remains, then they stood by the wreath, clearly affected, and then today the president was just now meeting with democrats and talking about trying to compromise on the covid relief package, all of this on his plate. >> reporter: you're exactly right as we look at the moving
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pictures from the last night. the president with the first lady there paying tribute to brian sicknick, to his life. i'm told that president biden spoke to the sicknick family in the days after his passing. clearly, he was moved, seen shaking his head last evening in front of that wreath, the capitol flag and the u.s. flag as well. notably for the biden family, this today is a significant day as well. this is the day that his son beau biden, who died too soon, of course, of cancer, would have turned 52. this is beau biden's birthday. that of course the backdrop on the personal front for the president. right now he's in the oval office meeting with some of those democratic leaders focusing on that covid relief bill telling a conference call he won't begin his presidency with a broken promise as it relates to his commitment to deliver $1,400 direct payments to americans. we had a chance to speak earlier to tom carper, chris coons, the two delaware senators, of course
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close friends of biden's. they were here earlier. i asked them among other things about the backdrop of impeachment, the challenges that will pose over the course of the next several days and weeks ahead. senator coons saying impeachment should wrap up in days and not weeks. as you look in the room, you see some of the democrats there. a similar picture we saw for the first official meeting in the oval office just days earlier where the president met with republicans. in this meeting, in his brief remarks that our team of reporters and cameras could hear in there, joe biden, despite those massive differences between the republicans' counterproposal, said he thinks he will get some republicans. andrea? >> and if our panel will pause, i want to bring in california freshman senator alex padilla, just appointed to five senate committees including budget, judiciary, and homeland
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security. welcome glad to have you here today. thanks for being with us. >> thank you, andrea. >> you were on a virtual call. it is a moment. before we talk about the package, let me ask you about your reactions to being part of the ceremony today and the tribute that was paid to officer sicknick. >> absolutely. i wanted to start just by sharing my wife and my condolences with officer sicknick's family. a tremendously difficult day for them. and what a reminder. i know we're talking about issues, the impeachment next week, covid relief, and so much more. we've seen the tragic results, the fatal results caused by lies and deception. we saw it in charlottesville. we've seen it in el paso, on the steps and inside the nation's capitol. that's got to be acknowledged. that's got to be recognized as we tackle the tremendous issues
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before us. >> some of those issues of course front and center, you were on that call between the president and your caucus on tuesday. there's talk that the white house might be willing to compromise by targeting the stimulus checks to lower-income people. that's part of the republican compromise. where do you stand on that? >> look, that's one of the items that was negotiated, but my take-aways from that conversation were clear. we need to act boldly. we need to act urgently. i know there's this debate between, you know, do we want to waites, take longer, and do this on a bipartisan basis. look, the way we are doing it still needs to be open for republicans to join us in providing much-needed relief to struggling families across the country, struggling small businesses, state and local governments and others across the country. it's up to republicans to choose if they want to do this on a bipartisan basis, but i can tell you, democrat or republican aside, american families cannot
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afford to wait much longer. >> and by much longer, our reporting is that surely march, march 12th is a hard deadline when the current unemployment compensation, the additional unemployment compensation and other benefits will run out. >> yes. look, we have looming deadlines for unemployment benefits to run out for people struggling in this economy. we have, you know, foreclosure and eviction protections that are set to expire, even though they've been temporarily extended. those are on the horizon too. let's just really boil it down, andrea. yesterday alone another 3,700 americans died because of covid. if that is not, you know, telling, the urgency with which we need to act, i don't know what will. the numbers on a daily basis, a daily 9/11 in terms of fatalities alone, let alone the number of new case, people struggling in icus.
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we need to act big and act now. as the president said, the risk is not whether we do too ly about the new immigration executive actions from the president that truly impact your state, your community. we did see pushback, though, from the aclu, which has been representing the separated families saying the families have been separated for more than a year, even if some have gone back and have been reunited, should be getting legal status here as well, the people who suffered so much, the children who have been so damaged, and those families, the parents should have more attention paid to them. some of them are being left out of the task force's mandate. >> look, i think the executive orders by the white house are a great start, undoing president trump's executive orders of the last four years is a great start. but so much more needs to be done to achieve truly
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comprehensive immigration reform. we must look at a pathway to citizenship for so many undocumented people that have been contributing to this nation. look at the millions of essential workers that have, you know, kept their economy and our health care system going through the course of the pandemic. when it comes to family reunification, here's how i see it, andrea. if the federal government can find osama bin laden, we can certainly find the missing parents of children and reunite families. >> and a path to citizenship benefits for what they've suffered. >> absolutely. they need, you know, health care, mental health care and support for families who, you know, are fleeing violence, maybe fleeing for their lives, coming to this nation for asylum. restoring the asylum system is another key element of the proposal and something we need to do through this comprehensive package that is long, long overdue. >> senator alex padilla, i know you have to go. but thanks very much for taking the time to talk to us.
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>> thank you, andrea. >> appreciate that. back with me now, kasie hunt, michael beschloss, zeier, and phil rucker. the president and first lady gave their first interview to "people" magazine. what the president said about the impeachment trial, which is starting next week. >> ask me whether or not they thought a trial should go forward. they didn't ask me whether or not he should have been impeached. he was impeached by the house. and it has to move forward. otherwise it would come off as farcical, what this was all about. i think it's important that there be certain basic standards that people at least are able to see what happened and make their own judgments. i'm not looking for any retribution. i'm not looking -- it's just my job is to try to heal the country and move us forward. >> he's trying to walk a tight rope there, is he not, phil?
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>> yeah, andrea. he's indicating that he supports convicting president trump in that impeachment trial, but he doesn't quite say that, and he and his team for weeks now have been saying they're leaving it up to the senate to decide what to do in that trial that begins next week. the mournful ceremony today could provide some emotional momentum, if it were, to the democrats' cause as they begin their process of trying toreminm how much of the life and death situation that was on january 6th and how in danger were it not for the work of the -- the heroic work of law enforcement and some luck, frankly. and, you know, the weeks that have passed since january 6th, the discussion around impeachment has become so much more political and about rules and procedure and the constitution, and this just brings its right back to that
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emotionally charged day on january 6th. it reminds all of us lawmakers what was at stake that day. >> michael, here we have the first president to be impeached twice, but the legal argument he can't stand trial because it's not constitutional. all of those legalisms could fall away, perhaps not in the political context but in the emotional context of the testimony of aoc about the posttraumatic stress, of jackie spear, reminding of what she experienced on the tarmac in jonestown the last time she heard gunfire. you never know what the impact of those witness statements are. >> right. and you have to ask the question, if donald trump had not been president and if he had not been there to incite the attack on the congress and the capitol on the 6th of january, would officer sicknick be alive? there's a very good chance that he would be.
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and our democracy would not have been in danger that day. so if the count of impeachment is incitement of an insurrection, he's going to have to demonstrate that he did not incite that attack or perhaps demonstrate that it was not an insurrection, but if congress, if the senate finds that donald trump as president did incite an insurrection, it will be very hard for him to make the case that he is not guilty of that. >> kasie, on another front, you've been tracking of course kevin mccarthy's purportedly unsuccessful meeting with marjorie taylor greene last night and what now may be worked out between steny hoyer and mccarthy as to whether the republicans would strip her of at least one committee and preempt action by the democrats. >> that's right, andrea. we have a bit of news here that's breaking as this ceremony has been unfolding, which is that steny hoyer, the majority
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leader, has put out a statement saying democrats are planning to move forward with the vote to strip marjorie taylor greene of her committee assignments. apparently the conversation between mccarthy and hoyer did not go as planned. the reporting had been that mccarthy would go to hoyer, see if what hay had come up in this meeting with greene was going to be sufficient to figure out a way to move forward without forcing everyone on the record on a vote on the house floor. it doesn't seem like any of that has worked. and the message had been previously they wanted mccarthy to do what he -- something similar to what he did with steve king after steve king made comments that were sympathetic to white nationalists when he stripped him of all of his committee assignments. that does not seem to be the conversation around marjorie taylor greene. now, the education committee has been the real focus because of her comments about shootings at sandy hook and park lavrnds, but
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she also has a seat on the budget committee and there's been conversation that she could perhaps retain one of those seats. this is obviously a difficult political situation for republicans to vote on this because we're already seeing campaign ads from democrats saying these republicans they were running against engage in these conspiracy theories that qanon posts on the internet. if, in fact, republicans go to the floor and vote to support marjorie taylor greene, those ads are a lot easier to write. so i think that's part of why politically mccarthy wants to try to do something to avert this vote. but it's clear marjorie taylor greene isn't backing down and she's making life particularly difficult for them right now. so stay tuned for what's going to unfold over the next 48 hours, andrea. >> yeah, kasie. i was going to point out she's been all over twitter, raising money on all of this. peter, the president now has to focus on the covid relief urgently, but he's got the
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impeachment trial next week. how does he navigate that? >> you're right. one of the real challenges is the opening message of the biden administration was this idea of unity and bipartisanship, and of course next week america is going to dive right back into the awful divisions that the impeachment process will reveal, how many americans supported the past president, president trump, and his belief the election was rigged against him, the awful insurrection you saw. consider the last four weeks. an insurrection, an impeachment, an inauguration, and then, you know, now today four weeks away we see brian sicknick, his remains being taken to arlington national cemetery. for president this is a real challenge. privately they acknowledge it's one they wish didn't exist for them, but this is in the hands of the senate, their obligation to pursue it even as they are highly skeptical there won't be anywhere near the 67 volts they need to convict former president
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trump. nonetheless, they move forward, and again in the words of one of joe biden's closest friends in the senate, chris coons, earlierer, he said their desires it would be days, not weeks, this trial. they want to move quickly and get to covid relief and have that done by the middle of march when the pre-existing relief expires. andrea? >> kasie hunt, michael beschloss, peter alexander, phil rucker, thanks so much to all of you. as democrats prepare to go it alone as peter said on the covid relief, what concessions if any will president biden offer republicans since he thinks he can get some on board? ugh, there's that cute guy from 12c. -go talk to him. -yeah, no. plus it's not even like he'd be into me or whatever. ♪♪ ♪ this could be ♪
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aed in the debate over the size and scope of the next covid relief bill and whether or not it gets bipartisan support, the president and first lady talked
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to "people" magazine about the coming year and pandemic recovery. >> i hope that this time next year we have moved to the point where we have fundamentally returned to normal as it relates to covid, where, you know, people will have -- and it's going to be hard because, you know, they're predicting another 100,000, 150,000 dead even with we take precautions with the vaccine. it's also an incredibly convenient opportunity to fundamentally put people in position where is they can have decent jobs and decent opportunities and real change. >> joining us is jason fuhrman, the form toer top economic adviser to president obama and professor at the harvard kennedy school. thanks for being with us. to compromise or don't compromise? president obama -- president biden rather moments ago said he thinks he could get some
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republican support for his covid relief plan. should democrats compromise on any aspect, and what is the risk of repeating what happened during the great recession, doing too little, waiting too long, then not even getting any republican support and seeing the results? >> yeah. i mean, so it depends on the details. the most important is to pass something big and to pass something quickly. i think it would be better to do that on a bipartisan basis with republicans, but if you can't, you know, the economy can't wait, covid can't wait, and so i would like to see the president moving ahead in whatever track is fastest. >> let's talk about those direct payments. there seem to be some signals he might have indicated there might be compromise on the amount -- rather the targeting rather of the $1,400 checks that he's proposing. but there's an argument among economists if you go too low,
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you're not reaching the people, that some of the people who are now unemployed in the pandemic wouldn't be captured in the past data, that they've lost their jobs more recently, and that, you know, in a family with two people and several children that $50,000, for instance, which is what the republicans were talking about, is not nearly enough of an income to keep people, you know, with food supply. >> i think $1.9 trillion on top of the $900 billion passed in december is a very large starting point for the discussion. i personally think economically there is some room to come down. and one of the ways it could come down is better targeting with checks, keeping them at $1,400, but instead of getting the full amount, if you make $145,000 as a family, you know, it's some lower number that's there. i think it would still be, you know, very large. i think it would still have a lot of different components, unemployment insurance, nutritional assistance, checks, rental assistance to try to hit,
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you know, every different place that problems might emerge for families and our economy. >> do you have a ballpark figure you think would be economically impactful? not too low, not too high? >> i think you want to err on the side of large in a situation like this. something closer to the $1.9 trillion that the president prosed than the $600 billion that the ten republicans proposed would make the most sense as long as you're using it wisely and well. by the way, the highest value money being the portion that's tackling the virus itself. >> and just a quick question. minimum wage, what about the argument it should not be part of budget reconciliation? >> i think the minimum wage has been too low for a decade now. i think we can wait a little bit to pass and phase in that higher minimum wage. i don't think it needs to be part of this first package, especially if it holds up the
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much more urgent assistance. but absolutely congress should, come back to it and get it done this year. >> jason fuhrman, thanks so much. thanks for being with us. if this continues, it will be a lot of back and forth. a new study from the university ouf oxford says astrazeneca cut transmission of the virus by two-thirds. it's the first study to show promising data that a vaccine can reduce the transmission of the coronavirus. the findings have not been peer reviewed. dr. fauci was optimistic on the "today" show with savannah guthrie. >> i haven't seen the data yet. that's not yet been peer reviewed. i have every reason to believe the brits, but i'd like to see the data myself. if that's true, that's good news. yet again another vaccine candidate in the mix. we heard yesterday about the russian sputnik candidate, which had over 90% efficacy.
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j&j, johnson & johnson, from last week also had some good results. so as we're going on getting into february, we're going to have multiple candidates in the mix, which is good news. >> joining me now is a senior scholar at the johns hopkins center for health security. doctor, how promising are the astrazeneca results as best you can tell? >> i find them to be very significant because this is the first study to look at asymptomatic transmission. we know these vaccines are effective at stopping severe disease, hospitalization, death, symptomatic disease. but there's been this question. many of us thought the vaccines would block asymptomatic transmission. it's important because people are worried if i get this vaccine, am i going to be able to change my behavior? a lot of people think we're underselling the vaccine because we're not focused on severe disease and hospitalization.
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we're focused on asymptomatic transmission. this is not something you have to worry about if you're been vaccinated, you're much less likely to transmit the disease to others and less likely to be hospitalized. >> during the task force briefing today, dr. fauci talked about the global impact of these new vaccines coming online, assuming they do. it's hard to tell people in america who were fighting the battle of trying to get their first dose, but this is a global issue, a pandemic, and as long as it exists everywhere, the threat of mutation and of further spread of course is going to hit us here at home. this is what dr. fauci had to say. >> we just want to remind people that this is a global effort, and the more we get the virus controlled globally -- and we will be part of that process as part of the global community -- the better off we will be. we have to be concerned about the mutants.
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viruses will not mutate well if you don't give them the opportunity to replicate in a very large way. namely, if you have an open playing field for virus, they will replicate and they will mutate. >> doctor, there's a new british study this week that the uk variant may be mutating and that the uk variant may soon become dominant here. what concerns do you have about that and the effectiveness of the vaccines we already have? >> so we've seen data from the uk variant so far that appears to show, yes, it's more transmissible, no, it's not more deadly, and our vaccines seem to be able to handle it. there's always the threat it could pick up other mutation, and it looks like it's picking up another mutation that's been seen in the south african variant. the vaccines still prevent against severe disease and hospitalization, the things that matter.
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but as dr. fauci said, the best solution to stop variants is get the world vaccinated and don't allow the virus to infect other people and to evolve. we have to continue to accelerate the pace of vaccination. this has to be an effort with no speed limit. they took snow days in new york and new jersey for the vaccination clinic. the virus did not take any snow days. >> how well do you think they are doing, the biden team, is doing in ramping up the distribution, going now to pharmacies at least with a million doses around the country? >> so far so good. i think that this is the effort we wanted to see. we wanted to see the federal government take leadership and bring this vaccine as close to people as it could be. pharmacies are a good place. people go there to get all of their routine immune saipgss like flu and shingles. this is a place people are familiar with and it doesn't require a lot of bureaucracy and paperwork, hopefully, so we want it to be as seamless as getting a flu vaccine eventually. bringing it to pharmacies is one step towards that.
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>> doctor, thanks as always. we always appreciate seeing you and your expertise. missouri is one of the lowest coronavirus vaccination rates of any state. why is that? in an attempt to turn the lagging rollout there, they are changing their distribution strategy directing the majority of doses to hospitals that can vaccinate as many as 5,000 people every week. joining us is sasha burns outside of the st. louis university hospital. how do they expect to achieve this, stasha? >> reporter: hey, andrea. well, the goal here is to speed up what has been a slow vaccine rollout and a very decentralized approach to this. so the calculation has been made that it will be better to prioritize large through-put facilities, hospitals like the one behind me here, st. louis university hospital that can do those large-scale vaccinations. you'll see 53% of the state's
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allocation go to hospitals like this that can vaccinate at least 5,000 people per week. talking to health officials here, they say the biggest change is this will get more consistency and certainty, because so far they haven't known if they'll get thousands of doses this week or none at all. they haven't seen a shipment in 2 1/2 weeks. i spoke to the head of the st. louis task force about this, and he says the tough issue remains supply. take a listen. >> one of the biggest things we need to do now is communicate with the public. this is what we're facing. these are the challenges. of course everybody wants to get vaccinated, but, you know, when you're given a scarce resource, it's tough to say we should be getting it and who can wait, and that is very, very hard for people to understand. >> reporter: while this will provide more certainty, andrea, the one thing this is not going to change is that supply issue.
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they are still waiting on that. i also spoke to the mayor of st. louis who says he welcomes this change because it will get vaccines in the hands of folks who can get this out quickly, but she's concerned about what it means for longer term at city health departments like hers are only getting 8% of that allocation. she says it's a small piece of a very small pie. andrea? >> dasha burns, thanks so much from st. louis. and punishing putin. now that russia has ignored a global outcry and sentenced kremlin critic alexei navalny to two more years in jail, what action is president biden going to take? we'll ask his long-term foreign policy adviser next on "andrea mitchell reports." by over 200 indoor and outdoor allergens. try claritin cool mint chewabls for powerful allergy relief plus a cooling sensation. live claritin clear. we are hoping things will pick up by q3. yeah...uh...
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i don't ever night, more overnight more than a thousands protesters were arrested in russia after opposition leader alexe was sentenced to more than two and a half years in prison. he sent a message to his wife. he traced a heart on the glass cage he was being held. he almost died last year after being poisoned by a soviet era nerve agent. his crime, violating his parole on a trumped up previous charge when hefrs taken to germany to save his life after an assassination attempt. the united states is deeply concerned by russia's actions toward alexei navalny.
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joining me now is michael carpenter who served a foreign policy adviser to joe biden. michael, thanks for being with us. president biden will give his first major foreign policy address tomorrow. how will he deal with russia's president? >> i think president biden is under no illusions about the nature of the putin regime. he understands very well it's authoritarian nature and what i think president biden has already done is juggled two very important issues. he has simultaneously extended the knew stark treaty to ensure strategic stability between the united states and russia. keeping the limits on the nuclear arsenals in place and extending them with verifiable
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inspections through 2026. that's a huge achievementachiev. now he has to deal with the outrageous behavior with alexei navalny. now sentencing him after being poisoned. i suspect that biden has a number of tools at his disposal he may use in the coming weeks. those may include magninsky. the united states has joined g-7 partners in issuing a strongly worded statement about what's happening with the outrageous sentencing. that means we're coordinating well with our democratic allies and that will be crucial going
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forward. >> you're talking about sanctions and sanctions against putin backers, that's what navalny's people are calling for. >> indeed. it allows for sanctioning those involved in gross human rights abuses. in this case, it's one in the same. those provide one set of authorities. frankly, what i would love to see happen as a result of this action by the kremlin is to see the transatlantic community around other costs. i think one of the most powerful things that could be done is to halt indefinitely the construction of the pipeline from russia to germany. you have voices in europe
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including french president but also in germany's ruling party calling for the suspension or at least a reconsideration of nord stream two. that would have the biggest impact of all on the kremlin. >> interesting. also there is myanmar also known as burma and what's happened now to the political leaders. the g-7 is calling for them to be released. how many leverage do we really have. what can we really do? we don't have influence on the military coup? >> in places like burma or belarus you have a government deposed. there are few tools at our
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disposal. we have to try to shape the incentive structure and i think you see the administration doing that. ensuring it goes only to civil society groups and not to the government. then perhaps working with partnersic democratic allies to impose sanctions. at the end of the day, we don't control what happens inside burma but we can shape the incentives to punish the ruling click, the military for what it has done. sgla we have less than a minute left. can i ask you briefly. asking for diplomatic security update. should we lift that terror designation on cuba? >> well, look, i think that there needs to be careful review done by the department and the intelligence community when they've completed that and
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gathered all the information on the scope and scale of what has happened. i think appropriate consequences should follow. i will leave it to them to decide at the time and manner of their choosing how they respond to these allegations. >> thank you. that speech from the president is tomorrow. that's it for this edition of andrea mitchell reports. chuck todd is up next only on msnbc. blan s up next only on msnbc. anbl ne leaves the table until your finished. fine, we'll sleep here. ♪♪ it's the easiest because it's the cheesiest. kraft. for the win win.
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