tv Second Impeachment Trial of Donald J. Trump MSNBC February 10, 2021 9:00am-3:00pm PST
there will be brand-new, never-before-seen evidence presented by the house managers. we're joined by nbc news capitol hill correspondent lee ann caldwell -- called kald on that. in the spirit of camera footage we haven't seen or a new van tanl point? what will they present today? >> we're told we're going to see new video from capitol security. so this is law enforcement video that we have not seen, the public has not seen. if we thought yesterday was intense with that 13-minute video, you can expect today to be even more intense. and we're just going to hear from these impeachment managers. jamie raskin is leading this entire situation and the planning of this. he took the lead yesterday. we should expect to hear from the other -- >> we'll come back to you. we want to listen in. stay with us. >> yep. >> as our senate jurors remember
their accountability to you, use them. to cause justice to roll down like waters and righteousness like a mighty stream. lord, during this impeachment trial, give our lawmakers the gift of discernment so that they will know truth from falsehood. inspire them to commit their thoughts and decisions to you. let your kingdom come and your will be done on earth as it is done in heaven. we pray in your mighty name, amen.
>> please join me in reciting the pledge of allegiance. >> leigh ann caldwell, give our lawmakers the gift of discernment so they know truth from falsehood. >> reporter: absolutely right. barry black is always very good at his opening prayer and tying it to the moment that is before this the senate. he did that once again. but i was saying before, as we're going to hear from the rest of the impeachment managers, including joaquim castro of texas, who could play a very big role today, nicole. >> leigh ann caldwell, we'll be calling on you all day. thanks for spending time with us this morning. let's listen in. >> hear yeah, all persons are commanded to keep silence on pain of imprisonment while the senate of the united states is sitting for the trial of the article of impeachment against donald john trump, former president of the united states.
>> mr. president. >> the majority leader is recognized. ? thank you, mr. president. for the information of all senators, no motions were filed this morning, so we'll proceed to the house managers' presentation. we anticipate two ten-minute breaks and a 45-minute dinner break around 6:00 p.m. >> pursuant to the provisions of senate resolution 47, the managers for the house of representatives have 16 hours to make a presentation of their case. the senate will now adhere you and recognize mr. manager raskin to begin the presentation of the case for the house of representatives. mr. raskin. >> thank you very much, mr. president, members of the senate. good morning. good day. as some people think this trial is a contest of lawyers or even
worse a competition between political parties, it's neither. it's a moment of truth for america. my late father marcus raskin once wrote, "democracy needs a ground to stand upon, and that ground is the truth." america needs the truth about ex-president trump's role in inciting the insurrection on january 6th because it threatened our government and it disrupts, easily could have destroyed, the peaceful transfer of power in the united states for the first time in 233 years. it was suggested yesterday by president trump's counsel that this is really like a very bad accident or a natural disaster where lots of people get injured or killed and society is just out looking for someone to blame, and there's a natural and normal human reaction according to president's counsel. but he says it's totally unfair in this case.
president trump, according to mr. castor, is essentially an innocent bystander who got swept up in this catastrophe but did nothing wrong. in this assertion, mr. castor unerringly echoes his client, ex-president trump, who declared after the insurrection that his conduct in the affair was totally appropriate. and therefore we can only assume he could do and would do the exact same thing again because he said his conduct was totally appropriate. so now the factual inquiry of the trial is squarely posed for us. the jurisdictional constitutional issue is gone. whether you were persuaded by the president's constitutional analysis yesterday or not, the senate voted to reject it, and so the senate is now properly exercising its jurisdiction and sitting as a court of impeachment, conducting a trial on the facts. we are having a trial on the facts.
the house says ex-president donald trump incited a violent insurrection against congress and the constitution and the people. the president's lawyers and the president say his conduct was totally appropriate and he's essentially an innocent victim of circumstances like the other innocent victims that we'll see getting caught up in all of the violence and chaos over the next several days. the evidence will be for you to see and hear and digest. the evidence will show you that ex-president trump because no innocent bystander. the evidence will show that he clearly incited the january 6th insurrection. lit show that donald trump surrendered his role as commander in chief and became the inciter in chief of a dangerous insurrection, and this
was, as one of our colleagues put it so cogently on january 6th itself, the greatest betrayal of the presidential oath in the history of the united states. the evidence will show you that he saw it coming and was not remotely surprised by the violence. and when the violence inexorably and inevitably came as predicted and overran this body and the house of representatives with chaos, we will show you that he completely and abdicated his duty as commander in chief and stop the violence and protect the government, our officers and people. he violated his oath of office to preserve, protect, and defend the constitution, the government, and the people of the united states. the evidence will show you that he assembled, inflamed, and incited his followers to ascend
upon the capitol to block the steal, to stop vice president pence and congress from finalizing his opponent's election victory over him. it will show that he had been warned that these followers were prepared for a violent attack targeting us at the capitol through media reports, law enforcement reports, and even arrests. in short, we will prove that the impeached president was no innocent bystander whose conduct was totally appropriate and should be a standard for future presidents but that he incited this attack and he saw it coming. to us, it may have felt like chaos and madness, but there was method in the madness that day. this was an organized attack on the counting of the electoral college votes in joint session of the united states congress under the 12th amendment and
under the electoral count act to prevent vice president mike pence and to prevent us from counting sufficient electoral college votes to certify joe biden's victory of 306 to 232 in the electoral college. a margin that president trump had declared a landslide in 2016. when my colleague speaks after me, he will set forth in detail the exact roadmap of all the evidence in the case. my fellow house managers and i will then take you through that evidence step by step so everyone can see exactly how these events unfolded. but i want to tell you a few key reasons right now that we know this case is not about blaming an innocent bystander for the horrific violence and harm that took place on january 6th.
this is about holding accountable the person singularly responsible for inciting the attack. let's start with december 12th. you will see during this trial a man who praised and encouraged and cultivated violence. we have just begun to fight. more than a month after the election has taken place. and that's before the second million maga march, a rally that ended in serious violence and even the burning of a church. and as the president forecast, it was only the beginning. on december 19th, 18 days before january 6th, he told his base about where the battle would be that they would fight next. january 6th would be wild, he promised. be there. we'll be wild said the president of the united states of america. and that, too, turned out to be true. you'll see in the days that followed donald trump continued to aggressively promote january
6th to his followers. the event was scheduled at the precise time that congress would be meeting in joint session to count the electoral college votes and to finalize the 2020 presidential election. in fact, in the days leading up to the attack, you'll learn that there were countless social media post, news stories, and most importantly credible reports from the fbi and capitol police that thousands gathering for the president's save america march were violent, organized with weapon, and were targeting the capitol. this mob got organized so openly because, as they would later scream in these halls, and as they posted on forums before the attack, they were sent here by the president, they were invited here by the president of the united states of america. and when they showed up, knowing of these reports that the crowd was angry and it was armed,
here's what donald trump told them. president trump whipped the crowd into a frenzy, exhorting followers, "if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore." and then he aimed straight at the capitol, declaring, "you'll never take back our country with weakness. you have to show strength, and you have to be strong." he told them to fight like hell, and they brought us hell on that day. incited by president trump, his mob attacked the capitol. this assault unfolded live on television before a horrified nation. according to those around him at the time, this is how president trump reportedly responded to the attack that we saw him incite in public.
delight. enthusiasm. confusion as to why others around him weren't as happy as he was. trump incited the january 6th attack, and when his mob overran and occupied the senate and attacked the house and assaulted law enforcement, he watched it on tv like a reality show. he reveled in it. and he did nothing to help us as commander in chief. instead, he served as the inciter in chief, sending tweets that only further incited the rampaging mob. he made statements sympathizing with the insurrectionists. 4:17 p.m. over three hours after the beginning of the siege, for the very first time he spoke out loud, not on twitter, spoke out loud to the american people. here's what he said. >> i know your pain.
i know your hurt. >> you might be saying, all right, the president is going to console us now. he's going to reassure america. he knows our pain. he knows v knows we're hurt. we've just seen these horrific images of officers being impaled and smashed over the head. we'd just been under attack for three hours. but here's what he actually goes on to say. >> i know your pain. i know your hurt. we had an election that was stolen from us. it was a landslide election. and everyone knows it, especially the other side. >> so you think he's about to decry the mayhem and violence, the unprecedented spectacle of this mob attack on the u.s. capitol, but he's still promoting the big lie that was responsible for inflaming and inciting the mob in the first place. if anyone ever had a doubt as to his focus that day, it was not, to defend us, it was not to
console us. it was to praise and sympathize and commiserate with the rampaging mob. it was to continue to act as inciter in chief, not commander in chief, by telling the mob their election had been stolen from them. after that vicious attack, he continued to spread the big lie. as everyone here knows, joe biden won by more than 7 million votes. but donald trump refused to accept his loss even after this attack. and he celebrated the people who violently interfered with the peaceful transfer of power for the first time in american history and did that at his urging. and when he did in this video finally tell them to go home in peace, he added this message. >> we love you. you're very special.
distinguished members of the senate, this is a day that will live in disgrace in american history, that is, unless you ask donald trump, because this is what he tweeted before he went to bed that night at 6:01 p.m. not consoling the nation. not reassuring everyone that the government was secure. not a single word that day condemning the violent insurrection. this is what he says. "these are the things and events that happen when a sacred landslide election victory is so unceremoniously and viciously stripped away from great patriots who have been badly and unfairly treated for so long. go home with love and in peace. remember this day forever." these are the things and events that happened when a sacred
landslide victory is so unceremoniously stripped away from great patriots. in other words, this was all perfectly natural and foreseeable to donald trump. at the beginning of the day, he told you it was coming. at the end of the day he basically says i told you this would happen, and then he athds, remember this day forever, but not as a day of disgrace, a day of horror and trauma as the rest of us remember it, but as a di of celebration, a day of commemoration, and if we let it be, it will be a day of continuation of call to action and a rallying cry for the next rounds of insurrectionary justice, because all of this was totally appropriate. senators, the stakes of this trial could not be more serious. every american young and old and in between is invited to participate with us in this essential journey to find the facts, ensure the truth.
trials are public events in a democracy. and no trial is more public or significant than an impeachment trial. because the insurrection brought shocking violence, bloodshed and pain to the nation's capitol, and we will be showing relevant clips of the mob's attack on police officers and other innocent people, we do usual parents and teachers to exercise close review of what young people are watching here. and please watch along with them if you're allowing them to watch. the impeachment managers will try to give warnings before the most graphic and disturbing violence that took place is shown. we believe the managers' comprehensive presentation will lead to one powerful and irresistible conclusion -- donald trump committed a massive crime against our constitution and our people in the worst violation of the presidential oath of office in the history of the united states of america. for this, he was impeached by
the house of representatives, and he must be convicted by the united states senate. before i close, i want to address a constitutional issue still lingering from yesterday's argument. the president obviously is still exploring ways to change the subject and talk about anything other than his responsibility for inciting the attack. we heard a lot yesterday about his claim that this incitement of insurrection was perfectly appropriate because it's somehow protected by the 1st amendment. and this little diversion caught my eye because i've been a professor of constitutional law and the 1st amendment for decades. as we'll demonstrate over the course of the trial, the factual premise and the legal underpinnings of that claim are all wrong. they present president trump as merely like a guide expressing political opinion that we disagree with, and now we're trying to put him in jail for it. that has nothing to do with the reality of these charges or his
constitutional offense. the particular political opinions being expressed are not why we impeached the president and have nothing to do with it. it makes no difference what the ideological content of the mob was. and if we license and forgive incitement to violent insurrection by militant trump followers this week, you can be sure there will be a whole bunch of new ideological flavors coming soon. as we'll demonstrate with overwhelming evidence, portraying trump as a guy on the street being punished for his ideas is a false description of his actions, his intent, and the role that he played on january 6th when he willfully incited an insurrectionary mob to riot at the capitol. last week, 144 constitutional scholars, including floyd abrams, a ferocious defender of free speech, charles freed, president reagan's solicitor general, steven calabrese, the co-founder of the federalist so it, released a statement calling the president's 1st amendment
arguments legally frivolous, legally frivolous, adding, we all agree that the 1st amendment because not prevent the senate from convicting president trump and disqualifying him from holding future office. they went on to say, no reasonable scholar or jurist could conclude that president trump had a 1st amendment right to incite a violent attack on the seat of the legislative branch or then to sit back and watch on television as congress was terrorized and the capitol sacked. inkriltment to violence is of course not protected by the 1st amendment. that's why most americans have dismissed donald trump's 1st amendment rhetoric simply by referring to justice oliver wendell holmes' handy phrase, "you can't shout fire in a crowded theater." but even that time-honored principle doesn't begin to capture how off base the argument is. this case is much worse than
someone who falsely shouts fire in a crowded theater. it's more like a case where the town fire chief, who's paid to put out fires, sends a mob not to yell "fire" in a crowded theater but to actually set the theater on fire and who then, when the fire alarms go off, and the calls start flooding into the fire department, asking for help, does nothing but sit back, encourage the mob to continue its rampage and watch the fire spread on tv with glee and delight. so then we say this fire chief should never with allowed to hold this public job again, and you're fired and permanently disqualified, and he objects. and he says we're violating his free speech rights just because he's pro mob or pro fire or whatever it might be. come on. i mean, you really don't need to go to law school to figure out what's wrong with that argument.
here's the key. undoubtedly a private person can run around on the street expressing his or her support for the enemies of the united states and advocating to overthrow the united states government. you have a right to do that under the 1st amendment. but if the president spent all of his days doing that, uttering the exact same words, expressing support for the enemies of the united states and for overthrowing the government, is there anyone here who doubts that this would be a violation of his oath of office to preserve, protect, and defend the constitution of the united states and that he or she could be impeached for doing that? look, if you're president of the united states, you've chosen a side with your oath of office. if you break it, we can impeach, convict, remove, and disqualify you perm negligently from holding any office of honor, trust, or profit under the united states. as justice scalia once said memorably, you can't ride with the cops and root for the robbers. and if you become inciter in
chief to the insurrection, you can't expect to be on the payroll as commander in chief for the union. trump was the united states, and he'd sworn to preserve, protect, and defend the constitution. he had an affirmative, binding duty, one that set him apart from everyone else in the country, to take care that the laws be faithfully executed, including all the laws against assaulting federal officers, destroying federal property, violently threatening members of congress and the vice president, interfering with federal elections and dozens of othered if ral laws that are well-known to all of you. when he incited insurrection on january 6th, he broke that oath. he violated that duty. that's why we're here today. that's why he has no credible constitutional defense. i'll tell you a final sad story in this kaleidoscope of sadness
and terror and violence. one of our capitol officers who defended us that day was a longtime veteran of our force, a brave and honorable public servant who spent several hours battling the mob as part of one of those blue lines defending the capitol in our democracy. for several hours straight, as the marauders punched and kicked and mauled and spit upon and hit officers with baseball bats and fire extinguishers, cursed the copps, and stormed our capitol, he defended us and he lived every minute of his oath of office. and afterwards, overwhelmed by emotion, he broke down in the rotunda, and he cried for 15 minutes. and heshouted out, "i got called an n-word 15 times
today." and many reported, i sat down with one of my buddies, another black guy in tears, just started streaming down my face, and i said, what the "f," man? is this america? that's the question before all of you in this trial. is this america? can our country and our democracy ever be the same if we don't hold accountable the person responsible for inciting the violent attack against our country, our capitol, and our democracy and all of those who serve us so faithfully and honorably? is this america? we'll now provide a roadmap of our evidentiary case.
>> mr. president, distinguished senators, counselmen. like several of you, i am a child of immigrants. and as a son of immigrants, i believe firmly in my heart that the united states is the greatest republic that this world has ever known. a hallmark of republic since the days of george washington has
been the peaceful transfer of power. for centuries, we have accepted it as fact. unfortunately, sadly, we know now that we can no longer take that for granted, because as lead manager raskin explained, on january 6th the peaceful transition of power was violently interrupted when a mob stormed this capitol and desecrated this chamber. as you'll see during the course of this trial, that mob was summoned, assembled, and incited by the former president of the united states, donald trump. and he did that because he wanted to stop the transfer of power so that he could retain power, ooichen though he had lost the election. and when the violence erupted,
when e this were here in our building with weapons, he did nothing to stop it. if we are to protect our republic and prevent something like this from ever happening again, he must be convicted. now, i want to be very clear about what we will show you during the course of this trial. as my fellow managers present our case to you today, tonight, tomorrow, it will be helpful to think about president trump's incitement of insurrection in three distinct parts -- the provocation, the attack, and the harm. let's start with the provocation. we will show during the course of this trial that this attack was provoked by the president,
incited by the president. and as a result, it was predictable and it was foreseeable. and of course that makes sense. this mob was well orchestrated. their conduct was intentional. they did it all in plain sight, proudly, openly, and loudly. because they believed, they truly believed that they were doing this for him. e, that this was their patriotic duty. they even predicted that he would protect them. and for most part, they were right. in his unique role as commander in chief of our country and as the one person that the mob was listening to and following orders from, he had the power to
stop it. and he didn't. now, some have said that president trump's remarks, his speech on january 6th was just a speech. well, let me ask you this -- when in our history has a speech led thousands of people to storm our nation's capitol with weapons? to scale the walls, break windows, kill a capitol police officer? this was not just a speech. it didn't just happen. and as you evaluate the facts that we present to you, it will become clear exactly where that mob came from. because here's the thing.
president trump's words, as you'll see on january 6th, in that speech, just like the mob's actions were carefully chosen, those words had a very specific meaning to that crowd. and how do we know this? because in the weeks prior to, during, and after the election, he used the same words over and over and over again. you will hear over and over three things. you can see them on the screens. first, what lead manager referred to as the big lie, that the election was stolen, full of fraud, rigged. you will hear over and over him using that lie to urge his supporters to never concede and stop the steal. and finally, you will hear the
call to arms, that it was his supporters' patriotic duty to fight like hell, to do what? to stop the steal. to stop the election from being stolen. by showing up in this very chamber to stop you, to stop us. i'd respectfully ask that you remember those three phrases as you consider the evidence today. election was stolen. stop the steal. fight like hell. because they did not just appear on january 6th. let me show you what i mean. let's start with the big lie. you will see during this trial that the president realized really by last spring that he could lose, he might lose the election. so what did he do? he started planting the seeds to
get some of his supporters ready by saying that he could only lose the election if it was stolen. i mean, in other words, really what he did is create a no-lose scenario. either he won the election or he would have some angry supporters, not all, but some who believed that if he lost the election had to be rigged. and they would be angry because he was telling americans that their vote had been stolen. and in america, our vote is our voice. so his false claims about election fraud, that was the drum beat being used to inspire, instigate, and ignite them, to
anger them. watch this clip. >> because we're not going to let this election be taken away from us. that's the only way they're going to win it. we're not going to let it happen. it's the only way we can -- the only way we can lose in my opinion is massive fraud. >> we all know what happened after that. he lost. he lost the election. but remember, he had that no-lose scenario that i referenced earlier. he told his base that the election was stolen, as he had forecasted. and then he told them your election has been stolen but you cannot concede, you must stop the steal. >> you can't let another person steal that election from you.
all over the country, people are together in holding up signs, "stop the steal." the democrats are trying to steal the white house. you cannot let them. you just can't let them. >> now, while he's inciting his supporters, he's also simultaneously doing everything he possibly can to overturn the election. first he begins with the courts. a legitimate avenue. legitimate avenue. to challenge the election. but he ignores all of their adverse rulings when all of his claims are thrown out. then he moves on to try to pressure state election officials to block the election results for his opponent, even though he lost in their states. you'll hear my fellow managers discuss that in detail.
then he tries to threaten state election officials to actually change the votes, to make him the winner, even threatening criminal penalties if they reuse -- refused. he had the justice department investigate his claims, and even they found no support for those claims. so he tied to persuade some members of his party in congress to block the certification of his vote with attacks in public forums. when that failed, he tried to intimidate the vice president of the united states of america to refuse to certify the vote and send it back to the states. none of it worked. so what does he do? with his back against the wall, when all else has failed, he turns back to his supporters,
who he'd already spent months telling them that the election was stolen, and he amplified it further. he turned it up a notch. he told them that they had to be ready not just to stop the steal but to fight like hell. >> we're going to fight for the survival of our nation, and we are going to keep on fighting. we will never surrender. we will only win. now is not the time to retreat. now is the time to fight harder than ever before. we have to go all the way. we're going to fight like hell, i'll tell you right now. we will not bend. we will not break. we will not yield. we will never give in. we will never give up. we will never back down. we will never, ever surrender. >> you will see that in the months, as the president made
these statements, people listened. armed supporters surrounded election officials' homes. the secretary of state for georgia got death threats. officials warned the president that his rhetoric was dangerous and it was going to result in deadly violence. and that's what makes this so different, because when he saw first hand the violence that his conduct was creating, he didn't stop it. he didn't condemn the violence. he incited it further. and he got more specific. he didn't just tell them to fight like hell. he told them how, where, and when. he made sure they had advance notice, 18 days' advance notice. he set the date for january 6th. he told them to march to the
capitol and fight like hell. on january 6th, as lead manager raskin said, the exact same day that we were certifying the election results. what time was that rally scheduled for? the exact same time that this chamber was certifying the election results in joint session. when did he conclude his speech? literally moments before speaker pelosi had gaveling us into session. many of us were in the house during that joint session of congress. i was sitting two rows behind leader schumer and leader mcconnell. i remember it vividly. and as we were standing there fulfilling our solemn oath to the constitution, the president was finishing his speech just a couple miles away. how did he conclude that infamous speech? with a final call to action.
he told them to march down pennsylvania avenue, to come here, that it was their patriotic duty, because the election had been stolen. and when they heard his speech, they understood his words and what they meant, because they had heard it before. let's take just a minute and really look at his words on january 6th as he spoke at the saver america rally. now, remember, i hear you, you hear three phrases -- the election was stolen, stop the steal, and fight like hell. let's start with that first phrase. >> all of us here today do not want to see our election victory stolen. there's never been anything like this.
it's a pure theft in american history. everybody knows it. make no mistake, this election was stolen from you, from me, and from the country. >> now, of course, each of you heard those words before. so had the crowd. the president had spent months telling his supporters that the election had been stolen and he used this speech to incite them further, to enflame them to stop the steal, to stop the certification of the election results. >> we will never give up. we will never concede. it doesn't happen. you don't concede when there's theft involved. and to use a favorite term that all of you people really came up with, we will stop the steal. we must stop the steal. >> finally, the president used
his speech as a call to arms. it was not rhetorical. some of his supporters had been primed for this over many months. as you'll learn, days before this speech, as lead manager raskin noted, there were vast reports across all major media outlets that thousands of people would be armed, that they'd be violent. you'll learn that capitol police and the fbi reported in the days leading up to the attack that thousands in the crowd would be targeting the capitol specifically, that they had arrested people with guns the night before the attack on weapons charges. and this is what our commander in chief said to the crowd. in the face of those warnings. right before they came here.
>> we will not let them silence your voices. we're not going to let it happen. not going to let it happen. >> fight for trump! fight for trump! fight for trump! fight for trump! fight for trump! fight for trump! >> thank you. you have to get your people to fight because you'll never take back our country with weakness. you have to show strength and you have to be strong. and we fight. we fight like hell. and if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore. >> you have to get your people to fight. he toll them. senators, this clearly was not just one speech. it didn't just happen.
it was part of a carefully planned months-long effort with a very specific instruction -- show up on january 6th and get your people to fight the certification. he incited it. it was foreseeable. and again, you don't have to take my word for it. the president's former chief of staff, retire mad recent, four-star general, was confirmed by this body to be the secretary of homeland security, overwhelming vote. that man was jon kelly. and on the day after the insurrection, he said this. >> you know, the president knows who he's talking to when he tweets or makes statements. he knows who he's talking to. he knows what he wants them to do. and the fact that he's been
saying the things he's been saying since the election, encouraging people, no surprise, again, at what happened yesterday. >> no surprise. think about that. no surprise. the president had every reason to know that this would happen because he assembled the mob, he summoned the mob, and he incited the mob. he knew when he took that podium on that fateful morning that those in attendance had heeded his words and they were waiting for his orders to begin fighting. and that of course brings me and my fellow managers to what happened here in this building. as lead manager raskin stated, my colleagues are going to walk through the events of january 6th and the evidence in very great detail.
they are painful to watch and to recount. and i'm not going to repeat the evidence now. but i do want to be clear about what also happened during that terrible attack, and that is this, that president trump once again failed us, because when the violence erupted, when we and the law enforcement officials protecting us, protecting you, were under attack, as each of you were being evacuated from this chamber from a violent mob, as we were being evacuated from the house, he could have immediately and forcefully intervened to stop the violence. it was his duty as commander in chief to stop the violence, and he alone had that power, not just because of his unique role as commander in chief but because they believed that they were following his orders.
they said so. >> president trump! fight for trump! fight for trump! fight for trump! >> we were invited by the president of the united states. >> i thought i was following my president. i thought i was following what we were called to do. >> president trump requested that we be in d.c. on the 6th. >> you heard it from them. they were doing what he wanted them to do. they wouldn't have listened to you, to me, to the vice president of the united states who they were attacking. they didn't stop in the face of law enforcement, police officers fighting for their lives to stop them. they were following the president. he alone, our commander in
chief, had the power to stop it. and he didn't. you will hear everyday tonight, tomorrow, throughout the trial about his refusal as commander in chief to respond to numerous desperate pleas on the phone, across social media, begging him to stop the attack. and you will see his relentless attack on vice president pence, who was at that very moment hiding with his family as armed extremists were chanting "hang mike pence." calling him a traitor. you will see that even when he did finally, 3 1/2 hours into the attack, tell these people to go home in peace, he added, as lead manager raskin said, i'll quote, "you're very special.
we love you." think for a moment, just a moment, of the lives lost lives lost that day. of the more than 140 wounded police officers and ask yourself, if as soon as as this had started president trump had gone on to tv, just logged onto twitter and said, stop the attack. if he had done so with even half as much force as he said stop the steal. how many lives would we have saved? at the send of the day, the president president was not successful at stopping the
certification. that we know. thanks to bravery of our law enforcement and the senators in this room. each of you who still fulfilled your constitutional duty even under the threat of mortal peril, but there can be no doubt of the grave harm that he caused tolected leaders, to us, our families, all who worked in the capitol, our staff, your staff. to our brave capitol police officer who defend us tireliless with little thanks. who believed they had a commander in chief would defend and protect them but instead put them in harm's way. to those killed for heeding his command. to our democracy and the system which ensures that we have a president elected by the president, the our national security and our standing in the
world. the harm was real. the damage was real. five people lost their lives on that terrible, tragic day. a woman was shot dead 50 feet from where we later certified the election results. for those who question just how bad it was, criminal complaints recently unsealed by the department of justice are more than revealing. you'll see one of these documents on the screen. in the charging affidavit of one of the leaders of the proud boy, we learned that members of the group said, i'm going to quote. they would have killed mike pence if given the chance. in another, we learn of a tweet in realtime while they were in
the building stating, we broke into the capitol. we got inside. we did our part. we were looking for nancy pelosi to shoot her in the freaking brain, but we didn't find her. for anyone who suggests otherwise, these defendants themselves have told you exactly why they were here. you'll see this in the trial. that in the halls of the capitol, on social media, in news interviews and charging documents they confirm they were following the president's orders. you can see some of statement ons the screen. one said trump wants all able body patriots. another, president trump can calling us to fight.
this isn't a joke. another one, i thought i was following my president. i thought i was following what we were called to do. our president wants us here. we wait and take orders from the president. he made them believe over many weeks that the election was stolen and they were following his command to take back their country. as i prepared for today, yesterday, this trial, one memory that i couldn't shake. it was on the night of january 6th and the feeling of walking back on the house floor and seeing many of you there. i remember us finishing our task at 4:00 many the morning. as i walked off the floor, i was so grateful, so grateful for the
opportunity to thank the vice president of the united states, mike pence, for his actions. for standing before us and asking us to follow our oath and our faith and our duty. we only got a couple of hours of sleep. i called my dad who came to this country as an immigrant. i told him be proudest moment, by far, of serving in congress for me was going back on the the floor with each of you to finish the work that we had started. i'm humbled to be back with you today. just as on january 6th when we overcame that attack on our capitol, on our country, i'm hopeful at this trial, we can
use our resolve and our resilience to, again, uphold our democracy. by faithfully applying the law, vindicating the constitution and holding president trump accountable for his actions. >> senators, representatives castro and eric swalwell will show the evidence of president trump's long campaign to delegitimize his electoral defeat and galvanize his supporters to help him retain power at any cost. we'll go step by step and explain the progression up until the attack.
>> good afternoon. my name is joaquin castro. i represent san antonio in the united states congress. there's saying that a lie can travel halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to put on its shoes. that was before the internet. the point of that saying is the lie can do incredible damage and destruction. that's especially true when that lie is told by the most powerful person on earth. our commander in chief, the
president of the united states. this attack did not come from one speech and it didn't happen by accident. the evidence shows clearly that this mob was provoked over many months by donald j. trump. if you look at the evidence, his purposeful conduct, you'll see the attack was foreseeable and preventible. i'll start by discussing president trump's actions leading up to the election when he set up his big lie. beginning in the spring of 2020, president trump began to fall behind in the polls. by july, president trump had reached a new low. he was running 15 points behind his opponent. he was scared. he began to believe he could legitimately lose the election. he did something entirely unprecedented in the history of
our nation. he refused to commit to a peaceful transition of power. here's what he said. >> can you give a direct answer? you will accept the election. >> i have to see. look, i have to see. i'm not going to just say yes. >> do you commit to making sure there's a peaceful transfer of power? >> get rid of the ballots and you'll have a very peaceful -- there won't be transfer, frankly. there will be a continuation. >> senators, the president of the united states said, quote, there won't be transition of power. there will be a continuation. president trump was given every opportunity to tell his supporters, yes, if i lose, i will peacefully transfer power to the next president. instead, he told his supporters,
the only way he could lose the election is if it was stolen. in tweet after tweet, he made sweeping allegations about election fraud that couldn't possibly be true. that was the point. he didn't care if the claims were true. he wanted to make sure his supporters were angry, like the election was being ripped away from them. on may 24th, six months before the election, he tweeted, it will be the greatest rigged election in history. how could he know it would be the greatest rigged election in history six months before the election happened? on june 22nd, more of the same. rigged 2020 election. it will be the scandal of our times. again, about an election that had not even happened.
on july 30th. 2020 will be the most inaccurate and fraudulent election in history. again, just big words with nothing to prove them. he wanted to make his supporters believe that an election victory would be stolen from him and from them. this was to rile up his base, to make them angry. now, these were just a few of the many times president trump tweeted about this. he did it in speeches, rallies and on television too. >> this is going to be the greatest election disaster in history. >> because the only way we're going to lose this election is if the election is rigged. remember that. >> the only way they can take this election away from us is if this is a rigged election. we're going to win this election. >> it's a rigged election.
it's the only way we're going to lose. >> this will be one of the greatest fraudulent, most fraudulent elections ever. >> this is clearly a man who refuses to accept the possibility or the reality in our democracy of losing an election. there are dozens more tweets and speeches of donald trump spreading his lie. you get the point. his supporters got the point as well. they firmly believed if he lost, it was because the election was rigged. >> will you accept the result if joe biden wins? >> no. >> under any circumstance? >> no. >> why is that? >> because it's lies and deceit and corruption. >> do you think if we get to election night or the following days, if biden winds up becoming the winner, do you think it's rigged?
>> oh, yes. very much so. >> election night. >> yes. >> if it shows up that joe biden won. >> yes. >> in your opinion would that be the only way that trump could lose, it's a rigged election? is it the only way joe biden could win? >> absolutely. i agree with that. there's no way in heck our president is going to lose. it would be a rigged election. some type of cheating went on. i firmly believe that. >> all of us in this room have run for election. it's no fun to lose. i'm a texas democrat. we have lost a few elections over the years. can you imagine telling your supporters that the only way you could possibly lose is if an american election was rigged and stolen from you. ask yourself, whether you've ever seen anyone at any level of
government make the same claim about their own election. that's exactly what president trump did. he truly made his base believe that the only way he could lose was if the election was rigged. senators, all of us know and all of us understand how dangerous that is for our country because the most combustible thing you can do in a democracy is convince people that an election doesn't count. that their voice and their vote don't count. and it's all been stolen especially if what you're saying are lies. let us turn now to the election. as you know the results were not fully reported on election night, which is not nushlg in our nation's history. but by november 7th, major news
networks, including fox news reported that once the remaining votes were counted, joe biden would be the likely victor. so president trump began urging his supporters to stop the count. i would imagine that if we went around the room, there are folks? this room that started down on election night and come back up and win their races. perhaps that's why some of you are seated in in room today. imagine if you were behind and the results start coming in and as you started pulling ahead, your opponent said that's not fair. stop the count while i'm still ahead. that's what donald trump did. that's not how america works. here, every vote counts. you don't just stop counting when one person is ahead. you count every vote.
let's be clear. president trump knew that you can't just stop counting votes. he wanted to inflame his base. there was a purpose behind this. to truly make them believe that counting votes could result in a stolen, rigged election. he said at 12:49 a.m. on lek night, quote, they are trying to steal the election. we will never let them do a little over an hour later, before the votes were close to being counted. he goes even further and actually declares victory. take a look. >> this is a fraud on the american public. this is an embarrassment to our country. >> yes. >> we were getting ready to win this election. frankly, we did win this election. >> frankly, we did win.
rather than calmly saying, let's count the votes. if there's legal issue, we'll go to court and resolve them. instead, he told his supporters that he actually won the election and the whole thing was a fraud. he said that on november 4th, and he has never recounted that statement since. despite president trump's pressure at the time, election officials around the country continue to carry out their duties and as votes were counted and his loss became more certain, he riled up his base further. take a look at these tweets. on november 5th he tweeted in all capital letters, as if shouting commands.
quote, stop the count. stop the fraud. senators, this is dangerous. i also want you to remember these tweets for another reason because that's what it looks like when donald trump wants people to stop doing something. bear in mind, this is not the president saying to his supporters that somebody stole your cup of coffee. this is the commander in chief telling his supporters your election is being stolen and you must stop the counting of american votes. it worked. his words became their actions. his commands led to their actions. take a look at this. the same day as those tweets, the same day as those tweets
around 100 trump supporters showed up in front of an election center in phoenix. some of them carrying rifles, literally trying to intimidate officials to stop the count just as president trump had commanded. arizona secretary of state katie hobbs said protesters were causing delay and disruption and preventing those employees from doing their job. let's call this what it was. we're facing a global pandemic. workers were risking their health to ensure the integrity of our elections and president trump supporters were encircling them trying to prevent them from doing their own jobs. this was dangerous. it was scary and it was blatant act of political intimidation. in philadelphia, that same day,
police investigated an alleged plot to attack a pennsylvania convention center where votes were being counted. police took one man into custody carrying a weapon. this happened all over. in atlanta, in detroit and in milwaukee. his supporters usd armed force to try to disrupt lawful counting of votes because they bought into trump's big lie that the election was stolen from them. president trump's months of inflaming and inciting his supporters had worked. they believed it was their duty to quite literally fight to stop the count so they showed up at election centers across the country to do just that. >> this is a fraud on the american public. >> yes. >> this is an embarrassment to our country. we were getting ready to win
this election. frankly, we did win this election. >> stop the count. stop the count. stop the count. stop the count. stop the count. stop the count. stop the count. stop the count. >> they ain't taking it from us. >> count the votes. count the votes. >> we were winning in all the kilo indications, by a lot, actually. then our numbers started miraculously getting widdled away in secret. >> stop the steal. >> they will pay. they will be destroyed because of america is right. >> stop. >> there it is.
they had bought into his big lie. president trump told his supporters over and over again, nearly every day, in dozens of tweets, speeches and rallies that their most precious right was being stripped away and they had to fight to stop that. they believed him. they fought. you may say, he didn't know they would take up arms. when he did know, when it was all over the news, president trump didn't stop. as mr. swalwell will show, after donald trump lost, he became even more desperate and incited his base even further. he urged them again and again with increasingly forceful language to fight to stop the
steal. even as the certification got closer, he grew even more desperate, he gave them specific instructions on how, where and when to fight to stop the steal. he told them the show up on january 6th and march to the u.s. capitol to stop the certification of the election results, and he told them to come here and fight like hell. you will see clearly that this violent mob that showed up here on january 6th, didn't come out of thin air. president donald john trump incited this violence. that's the truth.
>> mr. president, distinguished senators, my name is eric swalwell and i represent california's 15th congressional district. manager castro told you about donald trump's lies and acts before the election, but to paraphrase winston churchill, that wasn't the end of his efforts. that wasn't the beginning of the end but perhaps it was the end of the beginning. here's what i mean. you saw president trump prime for months his supporters to believe that if the election was lost, it only could have been so
because it was rigged. that took time. just like to build a fire, it doesn't just start with the flames. donald trump, for months and months, assembled the timber, the kindling, include on logs for field to have miss supporters believe that the only way their victory would be lost was if it was stolen. so that way, president trump was ready if he lost the election to light the match. on november 7, after all the votes were counted, president trump did lose by 7 million votes. for donald trump, all was not lost. he had a backup plan. instead of accepting the results or pursuing legitimate claims, he told his base more lies.
he doused the flames with kerosene. this wasn't just some random guy at the neighborhood bar blowing off steam. this was our commander in chief. day after day, he told his supporters false outlandish lies that the victory that the election outcome was taken and it was rigged. he had absolutely no support for his claims. that wasn't the point. he wanted to make his base angrier and angrier. to make them angry, he was willing to say anything. on november 15th, he states, i concede nothing. we have a long way to go. rigged election. doesn't say why the election is
rigged. november 17th, in a twitter statement. dead people voted. that's it. no evidence. just dead people voted. november 28th twitter statement. we have found many illegal votes. stay tuned. this just wasn't true. he never found illegal votes. he didn't even try to pretend he had evidence for that. stay tuned. well, that was all about inciting his base. not about bringing legitimate claims. it was about dramatizing the election to anger his supporters. december 5, you see here, he goes after the governors of arizona and georgia. claiming they weren't with him. governors of his own party. you see senators, he's casting
this in combat terms that either you are with him, making sure that he won the election or you're fighting against him. these are just a few of the hundreds of twitter statements that president trump sent. it wasn't just twitter statements. as you'll see, he was dialing into meetings, holding rallies, appearing on television, continuing to spread the big lie that his election victory was stolen. >> people that were dead were signing up for ballots. in the only were they putting in a ballot but dead people were requesting ballots. they were dead for years. they were requesting ballots. >> dead people voting all over the place. >> the alleged biden margin of victory in several states is entirely accounted for by extraordinarily large midnight
vote dumps. you saw them going up to the sky. >> massive midnight vote dumps. dead people voting all over the place. he said there were votes going up to the sky. this was never about pursuing legitimate claims. he was saying anything he could to trigger and anger his base so they would fight like hell to overturn a legitimate election. it worked. just as manager castro showed you, president trump supporters were taking up arms to stop the count. his message to fight like hell was having real consequences. in michigan, you'll recall that president trump was attacking that state and its officials. he continued the attacks after michigan certified the votes. >> take a look at michigan. take a look at what they did with respect to counties.
then you get to detroit and it's like, more votes than people. dead people voting all over the place. >> i won almost every county in michigan. almost every district. we should have won that state very easily. we have a similar type of governor, i think. i'll let you know that in about a week. >> he's literally telling them there there were more votes in detroit than people. about 260,000 people voted in detroit. there are roughly 500,000 registered voters in detroit. there are approximately 670,000 people living in the city. again, not true. he needed to make these outlandish claims to truly make his supporters believe that their victory was stolen from them. it was working. a few days after these clips on
december 5, his supporters surrounded the michigan secretary of state's home. >> secretary of state's house. >> stop the steal. stop the steal. stop the steal. stop the steal. stop the steal. stop the steal. stop the steal. stop the steal. stop the steal. you're a threat to democracy. you're a threat to free and honest elections. >> 9:00 at night, secretary's family inside. protesters have surrounded her home. they are chanting that she's a felon. as we saw when armed protesters showed up to stop the steal, this was not first time that president trump supporters used
threats and intimidation. president trump cannot say i didn't know what i was inciting. from what manager castro showed and what i just showed, there's plenty of evidence that his words had consequences. if he wanted to stop it, he could stop it. you saw mr. castro read statement after statement from our commander in chief saying stop the count. stop the steal. president trump was never shy about using his platforms to try and stop something. he could have very easily told his supporters stop threatening officials. stop going to their homes. stop it with the threats. each time, he didn't. instead, in the face of escalating violence, he incited them further. the next phase in theification of results was the certification
on december 14 of the electoral college votes. the night before president trump personally issued 14 twitter statements with more false claims about the election being stolen and directing his supporters to make sure that quote, they cannot be certified. he states here, the rhinos, the rhinos that run the state voting apparatus have caused us the problem of allowing democrats to so blatantly cheat in their attempt to steal the election which we won overwhelmingly. we will never give up. in the face of threats to elected officials, this is his message. he calls them rhinos. republicans in name only and tells them to never give up. president trump, to him, it was his supporters against anyone
who would not overturn the election results so that president trump could win. on december 14, despite all of president trump's efforts to stop, the electors cast their vote according to the will of the american people and joe biden was certified as having won 306 electoral college votes. the day after this occurred, leader mcconnell recognized this stating, many of us hope that the presidential election would yield a different result. our system of government has processes to determine who will be sworn in on january 20. the electoral college has spoken. as manager castro said, no one among us wants to lose an election. sometimes there's a reason to dispute an election. sometimes the count is close. sometimes we ask for a recount or we go to court. that's entirely appropriate.
what president trump did was different. what president trump did was the polar opposite of what any of us would do if we lost an election. once the outcome is clear and a judge rules, we concede. we recognize the will of the american people because we let the people decide. that's what all the courts, the justice department and the 50 states that have counted the votes, they said it was time for a peaceful transition of power because that's what our constitution and rule of law demands. except president trump. he directed all of the rage that he had incited to january 6th. that was his last chance to stop the peaceful transition of power. that brings us to the attack. manager castro told you the
power of the lie especially when the lie comes from the most powerful person in the world, the commander in chief. it also helps if you spend millions of dollars to amplify that lie. you'll see here, in mid-december, president trump announced release of ads including ones entitled the evidence is overwhelming. fraud, stop the steal. he spent $50 million from his legal defense fund on these ads to stop the steal and amplify his message. they were released nationally. played in video ads, online advertising and targeted text messages. they used the same words and phrases that president trump had been spreading for months. that the election was full of fraud. to stop the steal. now they had a specific purpose. how do we know that purpose.
these ads were designed to run all the way up to january 5. then they stopped. this was purposeful and deliberate planning to target his base to rally around that day. it wasn't just his ads. he continued to use his own platform. he told his supporters, who truly believed their victory had been stolen and who were ready to fight, when, where and how to stop what he believed was a steal. donald trump would issue a deliberate call to action and just like in his ads, that action centered around january 6th. on december 19th, at 1:42 in the morning, our commander in chief tweeted big protest in d.c. on
january 6th. be there. will be wild. will be wild. we know why he picked this day. it wasn't random. it was his last chance to stop a peaceful transition of power. he gave his supporters plenty of time to plan. this was the save the date sent out 18 days before the event on january 6th. it wasn't a casual one off reference or a single invitation. for the next 18 days, donald trump would make sure to remind them over and over and over to show up on january 6th. he would tell them exactly what he wanted them to do. on december 26th, he tweets. if a democrat presidential candidate had an election rigged and stolen, with proof of such acts at a level never seen
before, the democrat senators would consider it an act of war and fight to the death. mitch and the republicans do nothing. just want to let it pass. no fight. he is saying the republicans are doing nothing and have no fight because you are doing your job taking on the constitutional process of certifying the electoral college results. he also suggests, president trump, that if this was the reverse and the democrats had lost, it would be an act of war. an act of war. that's how donald trump prepared his supporters for january 6th. he even stated again 14 minutes later to make sure his supporters understood. quote, the justice department and the fbi have done nothing about the 2020 presidential election voter fraud.
the biggest scam, all caps, in our nation's history despite overwhelming evidence. they should be ashamed. then he adds, history will remember. never give up. see every one in d.c. on january 6th. that phrase, history will remember was the only time, the first time, donald trump had used it in his presidency. he sent this to 70 plus million twitter followers. the day they needed to show up and be ready to fight. on december 27, he reminds them again. don't miss it. information to follow. a few days later, december 30th. all caps, see you in d.c. this continues all the way up to january 6th. on january 1, he states the big
protest rally in washington will take place at 11:00 a.m. locational details to follow. stop the steal. you'll see that an hour later, president trump retweeted one of his twitter followers. that follower was kylie. the group organizing the january 6th rally and the creator of facebook group, stop the steal. she tweeted, quote, the cavalry is coming, mr. president. referring to the cavalry showing up on january 6th. she also added a website for supporters to rsvp and make clear what the message was. hashtag stop the steal. what did president trump say in response to hearing the cavalry was coming. a great honor. he wrote back. this wasn't just a single tweet.
he and his organizers would do this over and over repeatedly. on january 3, another supporter tweets, we have been marching all around the uncountry for you. now we will bring it to d.c. thank you for fighting for us. president trump reposted her tweet, she wrote back. best day ever. thank you for the retweet. it's been an honor to stand up and fight for you and our nation. we will be standing strong on january 6th in d.c. for you. we are bringing the cavalry, mr. president. we are bringing the cavalry. that was the consistent message. this was not just any old protest. president trump was inciting something historic. the cavalry was coming.
he was organized. her post, mr. lawrence tagged kylie kremer, the organizer of the event whose postwe saw president trump retweet. this is all connected. i won't show you all the twitter statements, and there are a lot, but here's one more. president trump retweeted another of miss kremer's posts which had all the details of january 6th with the same hashtags. march for president trump, do not certify. stop the steal. in response, president trump writes back, i will be there. historic day. before congress, i prosecuted violent crimes in california as an alameda county deputy
attorney. when you investigate and prosecute violent crimes, you have to distinguish was this a heat of passion crime or something more deliberate, planned, premeditated. the evidence here on this count is overwhelming. president trump's conduct leading up to january 6th was deliberate, planned and premeditated. this was not one speech. not one tweet. it was dozens in rapid succession with specific details. he was acting as part of the host committee. in fact, when he assembled his inflamed mob in d.c., he warned us that he knew what was coming. this was president trump's statement the night before the attack. i should say this was one of his dozens of statements on twitter in the hours leading up to the
attack. i hope the democrats and even more importantly, the weak and ineffective rino section of the republican party aring loog at the thousands of people pouring into d.c. they won't stand for a land slide victory to be stolen. @senate majority leader. thousands of people pouring into d.c. who won't stand for the landslide election to be stolen. it's all right there. he tags senators to pressure you to stop this. he warns all of us his thousands of supporters whom you'll see the fbi had warned were armed and targeting the capitol won't stand for us certifying the results of the election. this was never about one speech.
he built this mob over many months with repeated messaging until they believed that they had been robbed of their vote and they would do anything to stop the certification. he made them believe that their victory was stolen and incited them so he could use them to steal the election for himself. >> this election was rigged. >> this is tyranny against the people of the united states and we are not standing for it anymore. >> if we don't root out the fraud, the tremendous and horrible fraud that's taken place in our 2020 election, we don't have a country anymore. >> the left lies. they cheat and they steal. they are ruthless and they are hell bents on getting power and control by any means necessary. >> take three steps back. move back. >> stop the steal.
stop the steal. >> can't let it happen. >> stop the steal. stop the steal. >> the democrats are trying to steal the white house. you cannot let them. >> can't let it happen. never concede. fight. he told them in speech after speech. these crowds were ready to fight. this is what president trump was inciting. he foresaw what was coming and this is what he deliberately led to our doorstep on january 6th. i want to be clear, during this trial when we talk about the violent mob during the attack, we do not mean every american who showed up at president trump's rally. certain americans came to protest peacefully as is their right. that is what makes our country so great, to debate freely,
openly and peacefully our differences. just like all of you are attempting to do in this very room on january 6th. what president trump did was different. he didn't tell his supporters to fight or be strong in a casual reference. he repeatedly over months told them to fight for a specific purpose. he told them their victory was stolen. the election was rigged and their patriotic duty was to fight to stop the steal and he repeated this messaging even after he saw the violence it was inciting. when they were primed and angry and ready to fight, he escalated and channelled their range with a call to arms. show up on january 6th at the exact time the votes of the american people were being counted and certified and then march to the capitol and fight like hell.
he told this to thousands of people who were armed to teeth targeting us and determined to stop the electoral college count. what our commander in chief did was wildly different from what any one here in this room did to raise election concerns. this was a deliberate prepred at a timed -- premeditated incite to his base while the counting was going on and it was foreseeable especially to president trump who warned us he knew what was coming. this is what the evidence has overwhelmingly shown and will show in this trial. it's also the truth. >> mr. president. >> i can the senate have a 15-minute break.
>> without objection, so ordered. >> a 15-minute break in the day's evidence being presented by house managers. we have been listening to the first set of arguments made today from the house impeachment managers prosecuting the case against donald trump. for two hours the democrats have laid out before the senate a relentless crush of firsthand evidence presenting the january 6th attack on the capitol as premeditated. the star witness was donald trump himself. his words presented in video, in tweets. so many of his own words as well of first hand accounts of his supporters. all of it helping to draw a direct line between donald trump's big lie about election fraud that never existed, the anger it stoked and the violent that went down at the capitol on january 6th. we start with garrett. i noticed you tweeted about the conduct of some of the members
who were not paying attention. tell us about what josh hawley was doing. >> reporter: i think that was one of the two main take aways from the last hour. the intractable nature of trying to get some of folks in the room to actually engage with the material and be present and take this seriously. josh hawley who made his disdain clear in public comments is doing the same thing in the chamber. all the senators have the option to use the gallery, the upstairs area for seating for social distancing. josh hawley is the only one taking advantage. he's been sitting with his legs up reading, nonrelated material. in the 20 minutes or so i was in the chamber now, i didn't see him look down at all to engage with any of the conversation that was going on on the floor. some of my colleagues who are in the chamber said there were a few moments talking about some of the individuals who were charged with crimes related to this in which he did engage. making his feeling about the
entire proceedings pretty clear. >> garrett, what is the impact among those who are paying attention of donald trump's own words. it seems what the house managers have succeeded in doing today is to erase any doubt that donald trump by retweeting an amplifying the calls for violence from his supporters knew exactly which direction things were heading on january 6th. rrn the house managers were able to do something i struggle to do every day up here. that's get republican senators to admit they have seen tweets. this has been an ongoing battle on capitol hill for the last four years with republican lawmakers who have engaged in some ways with donald trump of their own imagining or the donald trump that they wished was president and what we have seen over the last couple of hours were these impeachment managers forcing them to grapple with donald trump who was president and who campaigned for the office and started this time line towards incitement in the argument of the managers months
before the actual attack on january 6th. i think in that way, it appears hard to judge until somebody cast a vote that the arguments are effective to remind the lawmakers who went to great lengths to avoid engaging with everything that the former president had to say, they didn't say he things and just the speech on january 6th is not what's on trial here. it's the long months build up that created the possibility of that moment. i think that's what the managers were focusing on the tweets for. to me a layman, skillfully. we'll see if republican lawmakers are willing to engage with it now. >> i want to you something personal. you spoken in some personal terms, one of the most powerful moments of the morning again delivered by congressman jamie raskin who quoted police officers who after protecting the building and fighting for their own lives crumbled into tears and said what the f.
what the f was that. is this america? that seemed to be the question on the table for every one in that building. >> reporter: i think that's right. i was here on the 6th and one of first people to get permission to go back into the capitol once they reopened it and seeing the police officers resting on their body armor in the same hallways where i talked to lawmakers was a powerful thing for me to see. i think grappling with that is the kind of thing that could make this more real for the senators acting as a jury here. the capitol police, these are people you know. these are people who you see at the same doors every day. you see working the same shifts. you might have the same, pick up the same conversation every day when you go through the metal detector and to dismiss the broader politics of this in ways that some the republican senators have tried to do discounts the experience of these people who are paid to defend them.
make no mistake, this is congress's private police force. their number one job is to defend the member and to discount their experience asks for never level of disassociation from everything that happened up here. >> i'm not going to good-bye you, but if you have to good-bye us to do some reporting, we will not be offended. katy, i remember so distinctly you were on the air broadcasting these events in realtime. what the house managers seem to have done was to have taken that feeling of the live events as they are unfolding and really interpercented all of trump's social media conduct, all of his public statements and all of what's in the public record in terms of how he goosed this, how he egged it on, how he enjoyed it and i wonder what it's like to see all of trump's comments, tweets and statements folding into what unfolded on live tv while you were anchoring.
>> you could go back to 2016 to talk about how he was priming fizz supporters for a regulared election when he thought he wasn't going to win that election. the house managers didn't do that. they didn't go quite that far. he won 2016 so it didn't they showed the statements he made. to leave open the question what his supporters would do if that were the case. they also mentioned a couple of rioters. was e one was dawn bancroft. she filmed herself saying she was looking for nancy pelosi to shoot her in the friging brain but they didn't find her. prosecutors believe she just said nancy in the video but prosecutors believe she was
referring to house speaker nancy pelosi. he owns a crossfit in buck's county. she is a mother. she's in her 50s. she was questioned by law enforcement. she initially denied that she was ever in the capitol but when they showed her the video ta she filmed of herself, she admitted that she was lying. there was also a proud boy they cited by name. he's known as spaz. that's what he's known as. he was with a group that said they would have killed vice president mike pence if given the chance. he's 43 years old. he's from new york. he faces charges of obstruction, assault of a police officer and robbery. according to a report, in the
court documents his lawyer has been arguing that this is all donald trump's fault. that he was sent there by donald trump. he was urged on by donald trump and while they might sfent significant portion of their lives behind bars, donald trump will continue to live a life of luxury. this is an example where the house manager cite this is a man who says he was urged there by the president. he was incited by the words of the president. when talking about what he did in there, saying he was looking for vice president mike pence, keep in mind we have video of rioters entering the building and saying hang mike pence. i believe we have that sound available. >> hang mike pence. hang mike pence.
hang mike pence. hang mike pence. hang mike pence. hang mike pence. hang mike pence. hang mike pence. hang mike pence. hang mike pence. >> hang mike pence. traitor. i don't need to remind you that someone did indeed set up a noose outside of the capitol during all of this. >> so chilling every time you hear it, it gets more horrific. not any less. thank you. joining our conversation, former missouri senator claire mc mccaskill. i want do ask about the evidence. the evidence as we have been talking about started with jamie raskin using the first hand witnesses of the assault. erasing any doubt in anyone's mind that violence was indeed what was publicly described as the culmination of donald trump's stop the steal effort.
he says in one of those tapes they say stop the steal, are you guys named it stop the steal. it's co-opted by donald trump. i think before the election results were known. talk about how it seems all the. it seems like all of the evidence is brick on brick on brick of a premeditated plan by donald trump. >> this is what good prosecutors do. it is linear, logical, and compelling. you build your cases literally a brick at a time. in his opening statement, mr. raskin said we're going back in time to show you all of these things. we'll do it in order. we'll prove the language that prosecutors use. and now they're doing it. and as i have been saying, you need to go broader and deeper on
cases such as this. let me use perhaps an over simplified example. in a bank robbery you don't just talk about the bank robbery. that's the crime, but there are a lot of things that happened before, during, and after. you case the bank, you survey the bank. you buy a ski mask, you get a gun, and you intimidate witnesses, hide the money, spend the money, maybe you get rid of the gun or the get away car. all of these things form the tapestry of the case nap is what you're seeing today brick by brick as you said, nicole, have very, very good prosecutors. they are also organized. they took their time, they know their evidence and they decided how they want to be using it. and we see more of it and it becomes a very compelling indication. do they win? is the president convicted? probably not. but in a small sense is doesn't
matter as much as making this record for history. the senator wills do what they're going to do. some are unprincipaled and we know how they will vote in the matter. but they're making a record that is extraordinarily compelling. >> one of those bricks include something that i had not heard before. if i had i had not focused on it. $50 million was spent to organize and further the lie of january 6th. we have talked for years now about the difficulty of understanding trump's state of mind, his intent around the mueller investigation, the hush money scheme, or the other brushes with the law. but it seems that the willingness to spend political funds to make this happen erases any questions about whether or not donald trump wanted the
results of january 6th to be what they were. i think he wanted them to be successful. >> absolutely, nicole. there is that aspect of this entire process that has not really been reported and dug into. that is the follow the money trail. let's see how the rnc paid for the supporters to get here. who participated in the insurrection. how did the trump campaign finance certain things? where did it go in the money raised between the election and what we saw in january, some $250 million. that's not just sitting in a quiet little bank account somewhere. and the irs and all of those related agencies that look at money trails are probably going to look at that too. so it's not just what you see here but all of the ancillary
narratives that build out that tapestry. the other thing that i find very interesting and was so devastating is how this has been framed today, nicole. you start with raskin giving eyewitness testimony. wtf, is this america? a cop being talked about called the n-word so many times and him saying i'm sick of this. trump was no bystander here. he watched it on tv as if it was just another tv episode. that is so consistent with how trump has run and managed his administration. and then finally there is a sweet irony that katy tur very subtle
subtley put out for us, trump supporters making the case that donald trump is to blame. the lawyers for these insurrectionists are blaming trump when the very senators, some of whom were part of this insurrection by inciting the action, the stop the steal, etc., how ironic is that. >> josh holly was not on the floor, doing paperwork with his feet on the desk. i'm alone in a studio and i would not put my feet on a desk, but i wonder what the twitter feed would show. i'm sure they all follow each other on social media like teenager girls. what do you make of how much trump they used. this was a case made against trump by trump. >> yes, absolutely. and that is really, the best way to do it. his own words. his own tweets, you know?
this is the guy. we were told at the beginning that his tweets were "official government statements" right? this is not some -- okay, i'm just in my room at 2:00 in the morning with nothing to do. this is official pronouncements by the sitting president of the united states. here is the other part though that you see these managers doing subtlely and may become more direct later on. it is that they're laying down the ground that yeah, some of you are all sitting here listening to me right now, you had a hand in this, too. that had to be echo chambered and reinforced. not just trump doing this. then you look at how it was reinforced. and how it gave credibility to what trump was saying. it's not just trump by himself and that is an important little
piece in the back of this. >> i use the word bricks and now some sailing nods. it felt like the harder they pulled, the things from his twitter, they seem to be pulling this tighter and tighter between his words and the violence on the 6th and everything in between sealing that direct link between donald trump's intent, words, conduct, and what his supporters ultimately did. >> yeah, i'm thinking like a prosecutor. all of the cases against the terrorists that murdered, destroyed, and maimed in the capitol that day. it is interesting to read the exact words in the filing of one of the proud boys in court. who has been accused of very serious crimes and the pleading says he acting out of the
delusional belief that he was a patriot protecting his country responding to the treaties of the ten commander in chief. trump maintained the election had been stolen. it was the duty of loyal citizens to stop the steal. i'm thinking forward does this proud boy get off with a jury nullification because he is allowed to testify. do they walk? because trump is the because of this. meanwhile republican senators are refuting to hold him accountable? it is something to think about and all of the former military that day.
working hard to take care of our veterans, but remember they were responding to the commander in chief. but in their world when the commander in chief says stop something and it has gotten to the point is had on january 6th, violence did not seem out of the question. they were doing what they thought was patriotic based on what trump had said. >> looks like senators are making their way back in. ari, can you speak to what you believe the evidence is designed to illuminate in this not quite court of law, but in the court of public opinion and in the political pressure chamber in which they will have to render a judgment that seems to be getting further and further out of the plausible? that what happened on january 6th is what he paid to advertise. what he urged his supporters to do. as they pointed out, they answer? >> yeah, picking up on your
coverage and your points, nicole, i would add two thoughts. first it has been very effective and very clear the managers drawing the direct line from everything that trump planned, plotted, said, and did leading up to and including the day of this insurrection. a day that when it was all said and down, he touted it further by speaking about it as if it was something to be memorialized, not the way that society and the government is dealing with it now, which is a wide-spread conspiracy where people go to jail for a long time. i think that has been devastatingly effective today. it's grim, but it's important. they have done a very effective job to quote you, nicole, i thought you put it very clearly today for folks tuning into the
first day of the trial, you said the star witness is donald trump. and point number two, just briefly i wanted to tease out something you were discussing. the founders plan for a lot of things, they worry about trying to hold on to power in the white house, but i'm not sure they planned on both branchs of government being in on it and that is one of the problems here. senators like holly and cruz, they were on the floor making cause to some degree with the stop the steal. >> that is a point that our friend and colleague joe scarborough was made is that you would have a complicit senate,
can they force respect or decorum for the impeachment itself. >> to my knowledge, under the rules, the constitution provides a framework where you have a serious meeting. this is more senators on the floor together for a long period of time. but with regard to how that comport themselves, whether or not they take the evidence or the process seriously or not, i think that is up to each individual senator unless there is such a breach that it would be patrolled through decorum rules. >> claire mccaskill, your name was invoked. any thoughts about how people will feel about their senator with his feet on the desk. >> he wants to be seen as "the guy." he is the guy who did this.
if he had not objected, i don't think there would have been any debate or vote on this. i think it would have been like all of the other pro forma certifications of the electoral vote. he did this. he set this in motion. and he is proud to pull himself apart from everyone else to be the only guy. this is all political for him, all political theater. that's why he is up there with his feet over the chair, probably working on his book manuscript and not looking at anything related to the evidence. very disrespectful, but it remains to be seen whether or not it will hurt him in his state. >> chuck rosenburg, i take such issue with this pure political prism around any of this. around how any of them conduct themselves even around our
coverage in seems to be, and i think congressman is doing a great job reminding people. this is about torturing police officers with an american flag pole. it was about beating them until they knelt down and wept and said f this, f this, is this america? where is the concern -- and i wonder whether the president's security briefs or own advisors knew if there was chatter in the system about this? where is the concern about the threat of violence that we know is on going. >> not just the threat of violence that is on going, but the actual violence that occurred here. there is plenty of time to count the votes. we ought to focus on what
happened. one thing i want to add, he said you're going to see disturbing images and hear course language. that's what happens in a crime. we didn't do that. we're presenting it it. we're prosecutors, it's the criminal that's did that. >> let's listen in. >> esteemed members of the senate, it's my honor to be before you today. i'm a lawyer, i'm a former, a former professor of writing. i'm a sister, wife, mother, grandmother to three with fourth on her way, i'm a person of faith and i'm an american. along with manager lou, i will
present the actions of a desperate president and evidence from a class of public servants that standing up to enormous pressure from the president of the united states did the right thing and upheld their oaths. my colleagues just presented evidence of president trump's month's long efforts to incite his base. leading him to believe that the election was stolen. that they needed to fight like hell to stop the steal on january 6th. these are not president trump's only efforts to overturn the results. manager lou and i will present evidence of president trump's relentless escalating campaigns to fabricate an election victory by pressures and threatening election officials. attacking senators and members
of congress. bullying his own vice president. president trump and his allied files suits in pennsylvania, my home state, as well as arizona, georgia, michigan, minnesota, nevada, and wisconsin. of the 62 post election legal challenges, he lost 61. only one was successful and that involved ballot curing in pennsylvania and it had no impact on president biden's 80,555 victory in our commonwealth. not a single court, not a single judge, agreed that the election results were invalid or should be invalidated.
instead court after court reviewing these challenges said these cases were "not credible." "without merit." "based on nothing but speculation" and "flat out wrong." they resoundingly rejected the allegations and upheld the results. it was more than that. the court said these cases were different. they were dangerous to our democracy. for example in an opinion by the united states district court judge matthew brand from pennsylvania, he said, and i quote "this court has been presented with strained legal merits without merit and speculative accusations." in the united states of america this cannot justify the disenfranchisement of a single voter let alone all of the voters of it's sixth most
populated state. our people and laws and institutions demand more. because this court has no right to take away the vote of a single person let alone millions of citizens it cannot grant plaintiff's relief. that was judged on appeal. a trump appointee that agreed and wrote, and i quote, the campaign's claims have no merit. the number of ballots it specifically challenges is smaller than the roughly 81,000 vote margin of victory. and it never claims fraud or that any of the votes were cast by illegal voters. plus, tossing out millions of mail in ballots would be drastic and unprecedented. disenfranchising a huge swath of
the electorate. similarly as judge linda parker of the eastern district of michigan said "stunning in it's scope and breathtaking in it's reach, it would disenfranchise the votes of more than 5.5 million michigan citizens who with dignity, hope, and a promise of a vote participated in the 2020 general election. donald trump told his supporters they are stealing the election. they took away your vote. it's rigged! that was not true. according to judge after judge the truth was exactly the opposite. trump was not suing to ensure election integrity. he was pursuing lawsuits that would in effect strip away
american votes so he could win. donald trump was asking the judiciary to take away votes from americans so that he could steal the election for himself. then after losing in all of the courts, trump turned too another tactic. you saw what happened in michigan after trump attacked the state. and it's election officials. his supporters surrounded the secretary of state's home as you saw in the earlier slide chanting, calling her a felon. on november 17th the board of canvassers for wayne county michigan unanimously certified the election results for biden. that same night after their vote to certify the results trump called the two republican members of that board pressuring them to change their minds. the call worked. the next day both monica palmer
and william hartman worked to certify their election results and they simply couldn't. president trump did not stop there. he then contacted majority leader of the
michigan senate mike shirkey and lee chatfield to lobby them to overturn michigan's results. he invited them to washington to meet with him at the white house where the president lobbied them further. let's be clear, he was calling officials, hosting them at the white house, urging them to defy voters in the state. the officials held strong and trump moved on to a different state. my home state of pennsylvania. i'm certain that senators casey and toomey remember what
happened there. he started to call election officials including my former colleagues in the legislature. republicans majority leader kim ward and speaker of the house
brian cutler. she said the president called her to "declare there was a fraud in the voting." then on november 25th, president trump phoned into a republican state senate policy hearing trying to convince the republican legislatures, senators, and house members there had been a fraud in the vote. he even had his lawyer hold a phone up to the microphone in that hearing room so the committee could hear him. here is what he said.
we can't let that happen to our country. we won all of these swing states by a lot. >> this is agathering, and i have attended many, that was likely the first time a president of the united states called into a state legislative policy hearing. remember hear is the president saying he won pennsylvania. pennsylvania had been certified -- that biden won by more than 80,000 votes. after that he invited multiple republican members of the legislature to the white house. the same scheme he used on the michigan legislatures. it did work with those public servants either. think about it the president of the united states was calling public officials, calling from the white house, inviting them into the oval office.
telling them to disenfranchise voters of their own state and telling them to overturn the will of the american people so he could take the election for himself. then in georgia, a state that trump counted on for victory, his conduct was the most egregious. on november 11th, brad rafensberger say he believed ballots were accurately counted for biden. here is a few examples. in all he was sweeted at 17 times in the coming week. i'll show you just a few calling him a disaster. not having a clue, being played for a fool, because he was doing his job ensuring the integrity of our elections. and these attacks had
consequences. he and his family received death threats. "your husband deserves to face a firing squad." you better not botch this recount, your life depends on it. they should be put on trial for treason and face execution. just some of the that threats they received. he wrote an op-ed where he said "my family voted for trump. donated to him, and are now being thrown under the bus by him. he also noted that elections are the bedrock of our democracy. they need to be run fairly and impartially. that's not partisan, that's just american. it is important to republican that this wasn't just a random
attack. donald trump was not just criticizing a poll decision over policy or saying he didn't agree. he was attacking a secretary of state because he did his job and certified the state according to how the people in that state voted. trump was trying to under mine our elections by taking votes away from the american people so he could remain president and he was willing to blame and betray anyone, even his own supporters if they got in his way. all of this was very public. major networks including fox covered the threats.
what did trump do? did he stop and say no, no, supporters, that's not what i meant. no, he doubled down. let's see the evidence. >> this is a massive fraud. it should never take place in this country. we're like a third world country. i understand the secretary of state who is really, he is an enemy of the people. the secretary of state. with he is republican or not -- >> like this character in georgia who is a disaster. >> let that sink in. a republican public servant, doing his job, and the president of the united states labelled him an enemy of the people. and that is why this is different. because this was not just one attack or one comment.
it was attack after attack. in the face of clear threats of violence. and on december 1st, another republican who voted for trump made this point and appealed directly to our president to stop his dangerous conduct. >> mr. president, it looks like you might have lost the state of georgia. we're investigating. there is always a possibility, i get it, you have the right to go through the courts. what you don't have the ability to do is stop inspiring people to commit potential acts of violence. someone will get hurt, shot, or killed. >> mr. sterling put this perfectly. we can appropriately challenge a close count, go to the courts, disagree, or make bold
statements, but what trump was doing was different. someone is going to get hurt, shot, or killed. he saw what was coming. he warned him on live tv that violence was already happening and that more violence was foreseeable and inevitable. his pleas were played over and over on every network. rather than heed that warning, trump escalated again. trump called brian kemp and pressured him to hold a special election and overturn the election results and appoint electors that would vote for trump. a few weeks later trump called the chief investigator for the georgia bureau of investigations who was conducted an audit. an audit of the signature matching procedures for absentee
ballots. >> trump urged him to find the fraud, and claimed he would be a national hero if he did. he was asking for evidence of fraud when there wasn'ting in. the official refused and the investigation was completed and on december 29th he announced it found no fraudulent ballots with a 99% confidence level. on january 3rd trump tweeted about a call he had with georgia election officials the day before. he said i spoke to the secretary of state yesterday. he was unwilling or unable to answer questions like the ballots under the table scam, ballot destruction, out of state
voters, dead voters, and more. he has no clue. they released a recording of that call, just four days before the attack on the capital. sheer what president trump said. >> it is more illegal for you than it is for them when you know and you're not reporting. that is a criminal offense. you can't let that happen. that's a big risk to you and to ryan, your lawyers, that's a big risk. >> let's be clear, he is saying if he does not find votes he will face criminal penalties. and not just any number of votes. donald trump was asking the secretary of state to somehow find the exact number of votes
trump lost the state by. president biden won by 70,779 votes. trump said i just want to find 11, 789 votes. he wanted the precise number, plus one, so he could win. >> look, all i want to do is this. i just want to find 11780 votes. which is one more than we have. >> he says it right there. the president of the united states telling a public official to manufacture the exact votes needed to that he can win. senators, we must not become numb to this. trump did this across state after state so often, so loudly,
so publicly trump wanted to remain in power. the public officials exercised great political and personal courage in the face of unprecedented pressure from a president of the united states. senators, hours is a dialogue with history. a conversation of the past with a hope for the future. senators, i thank you today for your kind attention.
>> good afternoon, i'm congressman ted lu. when that started failing, his deeply disturbing attacks on state and local officials -- i'm going to walk through his extraordinary efforts up until january 6th when he tried to overturn the election. is this america? like all of you i love this country. i'm an immigrant. my parents came to ohio and we started off living in the basement of a person's home. we were poor. we went to flea markets to sell gifts and make ends meet. they made a something business, opened six stores, and achieved the american dream. i joined the united states air force on active duty.
i was trained as a prosecutor, and i remained in the reserves because we're the greatest country in the world. how did we get to the point where a violent mob attacked our capitol murdered a police officer? assaulting over 140 other officers. how did we get to the point where rioters desecrated your senate chamber. the place where you sit became a crime scene and where national guard troops still patrol outside wearing body armor. i'll show you how we got here. president donald j. trump ran out of non-violent options to maintain power. after his efforts failed he turned to publicly and privately
attacking members of his own party in the house and senate. he would bait senators by naming them in social media. for example, on december 18th, president trump named @senaterepublicans. he was suggesting to members of the senate that if they did not help overturn the election there would be consequences. on december 26th president trump wrote "i saved at least 8 republican senators, including mitch, from losing in the last rigged for president election. now they sit back and watch me me fight against a crooked and vicious foe.
i will never forget! president trump was telling you that you owe him. if you don't help him he will never forget and there are consequences. these are threats just like the ones he made to state and local officials. it continued. on december 29th he is "can you imagine if the republicans stole the presidential election from democrats? all hell would break out. these leaders are pathetic. they only know how to lose. p.s. i got many senators, congressmen/congresswomen elected. i do believe they forgot. he targeted them calling them pathetic for letting the election get "stolen" from them. on january 4th, two days before their attack, president trump
tweeted they go down as weak and ineffective guardians. now he is mocking some calling them weak and ineducative guardians because they would not pretend that he won when he had not. and then the very day before the attack, his threats got more specific and heated. i want to draw your attention to how he was not just citing his base, but he was calling out republicans. this is a specific warning to anyone that won't help him overturn the results. anyone that was against the
president became an enemy. let me be very clear. he was not just coming for one or two people or democrats like me. he was coming for you. for democrat and republican senators. coming for all of us just like the mob did at his direction. noise going after senators and members of congress president trump also pressured our justice department to investigate the false claims that the election was stolen. attorney general barr authorized federal prosecutors to pursue substantial allegations of voting and vote tabulation e irregularities. 16 assistant u.s. attorneys in the trump administration urged the attorney general to cease investigations because they had not seen evidence of any
substantial anomalies. that means they did not find any evidence of real fraud. attorney general barr pursued the investigations anyways. after his investigation this is what he found. "we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have affected a different outcome in the election." two weeks later on december 14th, they voted to give joe biden 306 electoral votes and ensure his victory. the following day bill barr resigned. he had loyally served president trump. he had never come out against the president, but for bill bar, making election fraud claims, saying the election was stolen, was a bridge too far. bill barmaid clear that the overturning of the election results crossed the line. bill barr, the highest law official in the land told donald
trump to his face that his theories on election fraud were, "bullshit." attorney jeff rosen said he would be outstanding. and then the president put the same pressure on him. president trump reportedly summoned acting attorney general rosen to the oval office the next day and pressured him to appoint special councils to keep investigating the election including unfounded accusations of widespread voter fraud and to investigate the voting machines firm.
according to reports mr. rosen refused. and reminded president trump what he had been told by attorney general bill bar. the department investigated and "found no evidence of widespread fraud." the president turned to someone he knew would do his bidding. shortly after acting attorney general rosen followed his duty and the law to refuse to reoperation the investigation, president trump intended to replace him with mr. clark who would try to stop congress from certifying the ek he will tor -- electoral college results.
department officials also threatened to quit en masse if he fired jeffrey rosen. we watch president trump use any means necessary to pursue this aim, grasping for straws and retaining his hold on the presidency. but all of his efforts prior to january 6th kept failing. finally in his desperation he turned on his own vice president. he pressured mike pence to violate his constitutional oath and to refuse to certify the oath. president trump decided that vice president pence could somehow stop it. as he confirmed the president does not can have that power in the constitution.
and president never explained why he thought he could do that, be just started attacking the vice president. publicly he attacked pence on social media and at rallies getting supporters to realize that they believed mike pence could have stopped the certification. here is what president trump said -- >> i hope mike pence comes through for us, i have to tell you. i hope that your great vice president comes through, he is a great guy. of course if he doesn't come through i will not like him quite as much. behind closed doors he applied significant pressure. trump reportedly told almost anyone that called him to also
call the vice president. according to reports when mike pence was in the oval office president trump would call people to try to get them to convince the vice president to help them. in president trump kept repeating the myth that pence could stop the certification to his base to anger them, hoping to intimidate mike pence. on the morning of the rally on january 6th, president trump tweeted "all mike pence has to do is send them back to the states and we win. do it, mike, this is a time for extreme courage." he went on to mention pennsylvania in his chief nearly a dozen times. president trump begin threatened pence. you can go down in history as a patriot, mr. trump told him, or
you can go down in history as a pussy. as a veteran i find it deep lip dishonorable that our former president and commander and chief equated patriotism with overturning the election. you will see and hear the consequences of the repeated attacks of the vice president. the chants of traitor and the chants of hang mike pence. thankfully he stood his ground like other brave officials stood their ground. he refused the president and fulfilled his duty even after the capital was attacked. even half he was personally targeted. even after his family was targeted, he stood strong and certified the election. he showed us what it means to be an american and to show courage.
he put his country, oath, values, and morals above the will of one man. the president tried everything in his power to seize power from the rightful victory in the election. president trump's extraordinary actions drew increasingly more desperate. you saw him going from pursuing claims in the court to state and local officials to attacking members of congress in the senate to compromising the justice department and then to attacking the republican vice president. these great public servants were being pressured to overturn the results. some of them got death threats. thankfully at every turn our democratic process prevailed and the rule of law prevailed.
it is only because these people stayed skrong that it heldfast and the will the of electorate maintained. he ran out of non-violent options for maintaining power. i began by raising the question of how we got here. a man so desperate to cling to power tried everything he could to keep it. when he ran out of violent measures he turned to the violent mob that attacked your senate chamber on january 6th. as you cast your vote after the trial i hope you will think of the bravery of these people that said no to president trump because they knew that this was not right. that this was not america.
>> next, representative stacy plaskin from the virgin islands will show how reware of the violence and the plans for the insurrection against the union. i should say as lead manager this is a moment of special pride for me because representative plasket is not only the first to be on a team of impeachment managers, but she was also my law student, i home i'm not violating any federal laws by saying she was an a student then and she is an a plus student now.
overtelling one of my sons that mommy doesn't seem nervous about one of the impeachment trial, and he said most of the time mommy seems to have it under control. we know as parents that's not always the case. but i learned throughout my life that preparation and truth can carry you far. it can allow you to speak truth to power. i learned that as a young black girl growing up in the projects in brooklyn. housing community on st. croix. sent to the most unlikeliest of settings, and now as an adult woman representing an island territory speaking to the u.s. senate. because of truth, i'm confident today speaking before you
because truth and facts are over whelming. that our president, the president of the united states incited a mob to storm the capitol to attempt to stop the certification of a presidential election. my fellow managers will show that he incited a violent mob to storm the capitol when he ran out of non-violent means to stop the election. once assembled, that mob, at the president's direction, erupted into the bloodiest attack on the capital since 1814. some of you said there is no way the president could have known how violent the mob would be.
that is false because the violence was foreseeable. i want to show you why it was foreseeable and why donald trump was different from nn politician. the violence that occurred on january 6th, laich the attack itself, did not just appear. you'll see that donald trump knew the people he was inciting. he saw the violence that they were capable of, and he had a pattern and practice of praising and encouraging that violence never ever condemning it. and you will see that the violent attack was not planned in secret. they believed they were doing the duty of their president. they were following his orders.
so they publicized it openly, loudly and proudly. law enforcement reporting that the insurgents would attack the capitol. this was not just an official to fight for a cause, this was months of cultivating a base of people who were violent and pointing them straight at our door. by the time he called the calvary, and the event that he invited them to, he had every reason to know they were armed,
violent, and that they would fight. he still gave the marching orders to go to the capitol to fight like hell and stop the steal. the violence was not just foreseeable to president trump, the violence ask what he deliberately encouraged. trump said that when asked to denounce violence he would do the opposite and encourage it. now if he just said something once there would be no way to know that he intended to invite it or saw it coming. he spent month rs cull city
vating groups of people that following his command repeatedly engaged in real, dangerous violence. and when they did, when the violence erupted as a response to his calls to fight against the stolen election he did not walk it back. he did not tell them no. he did the opposite. he fanned the flame of violence and it worked. you will see this overtime. these very groups and individuals whose violence the president praised helped to lead the attack on january 6th. that is how we know, clearly, that president trump deliberately incited this and
how we know he saw it coming. there are many examples where the president engaged in this pattern and i'm going to walk you through a few of them. let's start with president trump's incitement of the proud boys. many of you heard of this group which since 2018 has been classified by the fbi as an extremist organization. in one act of violence, they attacked a man with a baseball bat and punched him while he was on the ground. president trump was asked if he was willing to condemn white supremacy and ilitia groups if
he was willing to tell them to stand down and stop the violence. let's watch. >> are you willing tonight to condemn white supremacists and militia groups and to say that they need to stand down and not add to the violence in a number of the cities as we saw. >> i'm willing to do it -- >> then do it. >> let's hear now the president's response. >> then do it, sir. >> do it, say it. >> what do you want to call hem? >> white supremacists. >> proud boys, stand back and stand by. >> when asked to condemn the proud boys, and white supremacists, what did he say? he said stand back and stand by.
his message was heard loud and clear. the group adopted the phrase "stand back and stand by" asslo wore proudly across their backs at trump's rallies and they followed the president's orders. you'll see more about this later in the trial, but you'll see in these photos to the left dominic pizola and to the right, william pepe. two of the leaders of the heading to the capitol on january 6th. they were later charged with working together to obstruct law enforcement. as we go through this evidence, i want you to keep in mind these words by president trump when asked to condemn violence. "stand back and stand by." and see example after example of the kinds of people like the
proud boys who he had standing by on january 6th. by october, as my colleagues, mr. castro and mr. swalwell, showed you, donald trump was escalating his big lie that the only way he could lose the election was if it was rigged. so, as election day neared, his supporters were frustrated. and they were angry. they were prepared to ensure his victory by any means necessary. one of these violent acts was on october 30th. some time after 12:30 p.m., a caravan of more than 50 trucks covered in pro-trump campaign gear, confronted and surrounded cars carrying biden/harris campaign workers and a biden/harris campaign bus as they were traveling down interstate 35 from san antonio to austin.
according to witnesses this caravan repeatedly tried to slow the bus down in the middle of the highway then to run it off the road. what the video you just saw does not show is the bus they tried to run off the road was filled with young campaign staff, volunteers, supporters, surrogates, people. as the trump supporters closed in on the bus, a large black pickup truck adorned with trump flags, suddenly and intentionally swerved and crashed into a car driven by a biden/harris volunteer. news of the event went viral on social media. the president of the united states in a campaign saw his own
supporters trying to run a bus carrying his opponent's campaign workers off the highway. to physically intimidate people in this country campaigning. here was his response the next day. >> three, two, one, go! ♪ welcome to the red kingdom ♪ ♪ yeah ♪ ♪ red kingdom ♪ ♪ welcome to the ♪ ♪ red kingdom ♪ ♪ yeah ♪ ♪ red kingdom ♪ ♪ welcome to the place where we run it ♪ >> the president of the united states tweeted a video of his supporters trying to drive a bus off of the road. you'll recall in that first video that i showed you there
was no sound. well, the one that he tweeted had a fight theme song placed to it that the president, the president, put that music to that video. and he added at the top, "i love texas." by the next evening, that tweet that he did had been viewed 12.6 million times, and it wasn't just the tweet. on november 1st at a michigan rally with a sea of supporters, the president talked about that incident again. here it is. >> something, you see the way our people, they, you know, they were protecting his bus yesterday because they're nice. so his bus -- they had hundreds of cars. trump, trump. trump and the american flag. that's -- you see trump and the american flag. >> the president made a public joke of violence against campaigners in an american
election. he made light of it. this was not a joke. in fact, it was so violent it put so many people in harm's way that the fbi investigated the incident and the criminal responsibility of those who attacked these campaign workers. now, our president, donald trump, could have said, okay, i didn't realize how bad that was, this was very violent, please stop. but he didn't. he saw the investigation and made a statement in defense of his supporters' attack on the bus writing, "in my opinion, these patriots did nothing wrong." engaging in violence for him made them patriots to donald trump. for anyone who says donald trump didn't know the violence he was
inciting, i ask you to consider his supporters tried to drive a bus off the highway in the middle of the day to intimidate his opponent's campaign workers and his response was to tweet the video of the incident that had fight music, joke about it, and call those individuals in that incident patriots. and once again, donald trump's praise worked to incite them further. emboldened by that praise, they remained ready to fight. ready to stand back and stand by. this link is not hypothetical. just like what we saw with the proud boys showing up in full force on january 6th, donald trump's encouragement of this attack made sure his supporters were ready for the next one. the caravan bus attack had been
organized by a trump supporters named keith lee. leading up to the attack on our capitol of january 6th, mr. lee teamed up with other supporters to fund raise to help to bring people to washington, d.c., for that day. the morning of the attack, he filmed footage of the capitol, pointed out the flimsiness of fencing and then addressed his supporters before the attack saying, "as soon as you all get done hearing president, y'all get to the capitol. we need to surround this place." during the attack, he used the blowhorn to call out for the mob to rush in. he later went to the rotunda, himself. and then back outside to urge the crowd to come inside. these are the people that trump president cultivated, who were standing by. i'd like to look at another
example. after the election on december 12th, trump supporters gathered en masse to protest the stoling election in d.c. it was billed by his loyalists as the second million maga march. the rally was organized by women for america first. the same group that you'll see later secured the permit for the january 6th rally. and who else was there? the proud boys standing by. donald trump did not attend that rally, but he made sure to make clear his supporters throughout the day how he felt about the event. at 8:47 a.m., he sent out a tweet. "we have just begun to fight." and then the rally began.
and donald trump's allies who spoke at the rally carried on his message of the stolen election and the importance of fighting to stop the steal. here's nicholas fuentes, a commentator who had organized a stop the steal rally in michigan with trump supporters. >> and the first million maga march, we promised if the gop would not do everything in their pew power to keep trump in office that we would destroy the gop. [ cheering ] and as we gather here in washington, d.c., for a second million maga march, we're done making promises. it has to happen now. we are going to destroy the gop. [ cheering ] >> let's go! [ crowd chanting "destroy the gop" ]
>> those words, that was trump's message. destroy anyone who won't listen. who won't help them take the election for trump. and as you will see, this was just the preview for fuentes who, like the proud boys and the trump caravan organizers, would later heed the president's call and come to washington and be there on january 6th. later in the rally, a former trump campaign spokeswoman, katrina pearson, also spoke. during her speech, she stated, "this isn't over. this is just beginning." referring to the fight to stop the steal. and then she added, "we knew both republican and democrats were against we people, we, the people. we are the cavalry. no one's coming for us." it's clear that trump and some
of his supporters saw this as war, a fight against anyone who was unwilling to do whatever it took to keep donald trump in power. "we are the cavalry." and president trump continued to reinforce his support of these messages throughout the day. at 1:48 p.m., after both speeches, he retweeted his deputy chief of staff's tweet showing his crowd that he had flown over on marine one and he tweeted, "thank you, patriots." these people were as you can see gathered en masse and being told by the president's allies that their election had been stolen. and they were told they were the cavalry. no one else could do it. and after hearing these speeches and seeing the president's support, this is what donald trump's cavalry was capable of.
>> watch out. watch out. >> let's go! >> back off! >> what you just saw was the violence that ensued after that rally. the proud boys, after that rally, engaged in serious acts of violence in downtown d.c. some trump supporters and self-identified proud boys vandalized churches after that rally. if we look at these events, it's clear how we got here because what did the president do after that? he turned right around and a little over a week later he
began coordinating the january 6th save america rally with the same people who had planned the second million maga march. you'll recall that the women for america first had organized that second million maga march. they had originally planned rallies for january 22nd and january 23rd. after the inauguration. donald trump had other plans. on december 19th, president trump tweeted his save the date for january 6th. he told his supporters to come to d.c. for a big protest, the day billing it as wild. just days later women for america first amended their permit to hold their rally on january 6th. pursuant to the president's save the date. instead of after the inauguration.
this was deliberate. reports confirm that the president, himself, president trump, became directly involved with the planning of the event. including the speaking lineup, even the music to be played. just as he chose the music for his retreat of the caravan driving the biden/harris bus off the road with that fight song. and he brought the same people who spoke at the second million maga rally to help as well. trump's campaign adviser, katrina peirson, who you recall said on december 12th that this is only the beginning, "we are the cavalry," also became directly involved in planning the event. they even sent out invitations together. this is amy kremer, one of the founders for women for america
first, tweeting the invitation, tagging donald trump and other organizers, inviing the same supporters who had just engaged in serious violence at the second million maga rally to show up to the largest rally to stop the steal. and president trump seemed to have other plans for what was going to happen at that rally, too. women for america first had initially planned for the rallygoers to remain at the ellipse until the counting of the state electoral slates first was completed. just like they had remained at freedom plaza after the second million maga march. in fact, the permit stated in no uncertain terms that the march from the ellipse was not permitted. it was not until after president trump and his team became involved in the planning that the march from the ellipse to the capitol came about.
in direct contravention of the original permit. this was not a coincidence. none of this was. donald trump over many months cultivated violence. praised it. and then when he saw the violence his supporters were capable of, he channeled it to his big, wild, historic, event. he organized january 6th with the same people that had just organized a rally resulting in substantial violence and made absolutely sure this time these violent rallygoers wouldn't just remain in place. he made sure that those violent people would literally march right here to our steps from the ellipse to the capitol to stop the steal.
his cavalry. this was deliberate. and because the president of the united states incited this, because he was orchestrating this, because he was inviting them, the insurgents were not shy about their planning. they believed they were following the orders of the commander in chief. they were, as the tweet we just saw, quite literally, his cavalry. so, they posted exact blueprints of the attack openly, loudly, proudly. and they did this all over public forums. these were not just hidden posts on dark websites that trump would not have seen. quite the opposite. we know that president trump's team monitored these websites. we know this because his advisers confirm it. an ex-white house and campaign
insider, as you'll read, who has known both scavino and the president for years said flfs no there was no way scavino and the trump social media operation would not have been aware of the plan circulating online to storm the capitol. because, and i quote, "the trump operation closely monitored the web's darkest corners. ranging from mainstream sites such as twitter, facebook, and reddit, to fringe message boards like 4chan and xchan now call c 8kun, to thedonald.win, an offshoot from a banned reddit community dedicated to rabidly supporting all things trump." they actively monitored the exact sites like thedonald.win in which these insurrectionists wrote their posts. so what would trump and his team have seen when they were
monitoring these sites? what would his supporters have said? they would have seen a clear roadmap of exactly what happened. this is an example of a post that was captured from one of the sites dedicated to donald trump that we just talked about. shortly before the site was taken down. and the meme reads, "the capitol is our goal. everything else is a distraction. every corrupt member of congress locked in one room and surrounded by real americans is an opportunity that will never present itself again." let that sink in. think about that. the exact thing that happened on january 6th, that was their goal. and they said it out loud on sites that the trump administration was actively
monitoring. a third-party site captured a post on thedonald.win where one user posted, "this cannot simply be a protest. it has to be the establishment of the maga militia with the command offices set up with all further militia tactical missions spreading from there." another user said in response, "we will have to achieve an actual tactical victory like storming and occupying the capitol to have the intended effect." that's what they understood donald trump to want. there it is in black and white. and they explained why they felt justified in this. another poster on the forum, thedonald.win wrote on january 4th, "if congress illegally certifies biden, trump would have absolutely no choice but to
demand us to storm congress and kill/beat them up." donald trump will have no choice. that is what he made them to believe to the point his supporters felt justified even in carrying weapons and storming our capitol. this was in post after post. here's another. when discussing how to carry guns into d.c., one noted, "yes, it's illegal, but this is war, and we are clearly in a post-legal phase of our society." what? they treated it as a war. and they meant it. the morning of the attack under the thread, "today i told my kids good-bye." one poster wrote, "today i had the very difficult conversation with my children that daddy
might not come home from d.c." within a matter of hours that post amassed 4,000 likes. president trump had truly made them believe that their election had been stolen and it was their patriotic duty to fight to steal it back. patriotic. a term he gave those who used violence for him, and they were willing to say good-bye to their children for this fight. and they supporters didn't just rely on entering the capitol with gus haphazardly. they had maps of this building. they talked through which tunnels to use and how to get to the senate chamber. some posted specific floor plans, layouts of the capitol, alongside hopes of overwhelming law enforcement to, quote, find the tunnels, arrest the worst
traitors." posters also fixated on what they saw as their ability to easily overwhelm the capitol police as, "there are only around 2k of them." again, they urge, "the capitol is our goal. everything else is a distraction." there were hundreds of these posts. hundreds. monitored by the trump administration. and these posts, they were chillingly accurate. right down to communication devices. a new affidavit filed by the fbi described preparations by the right-wing group, the proud boys, to storm the capitol including using earpieces and walkie-talkies to direct movements throughout the building. this happened. that's the level of planning in advance that occurred. they had earpieces. on the slide, you'll see proud
boy member dominic pezzola has an earpiece in his right ear consistent with the affidavit. in addition to the posts, they made clear why they thought they should do this, why they thought they could do this. it wasn't just that they were doing it following the president's orders, they thought he would help them. a third-party site captured a post on thedonald.win, again, the site monitored by trump's team and he wrote, "he" meaning donald trump in this instance, "can order the nat guard to stand down if needed. unfortunately, he has no control over the capitol police. but there are only around 2k of them and a lot are useless fat asses or girls." it's all right there. the overall goal, maps of the capitol, the weapons, communication devices. they even said publicly, openly,
proudly, that president trump will help them to commandeer the national guard so all they have to do is overwhelm the 2,000 capitol police officers. this was reported in the nbc news and the "washington post" with headlines like, "violent threats ripple through far-right internet forums ahead of protests." "pro-trump forums erupt with violent threats ahead of wednesday's rally against the 2020 election." fox news also reported that the proud boys would come to the january 6th rally. "prepare for violent action." even quoting a proud boy member who said they would, "incognito and spread across downtown d.c. in smaller numbers." city officials seeing these same warnings also publicly warned about the violence and unlawful weapons at the event.
d.c. mayor muriel bowser cautioned residents of the district of columbia to avoid the downtown area, while the rally attendees were in town. federal law enforcement warned of these threats also. on january 3rd a capitol police intelligence report warned of a violent scenario in which congress, itself, could be the target of the angry supporters of president trump on january 6th. according to that report obtained by the "washington post," supporters of the current president see january 6th, 2021, as the last opportunity to overturn the results of the presidential election. this sense of desperation and disappointment may lead to more incentive to become violent. unlike previous post-election protests, the targets of the
pro-trump supporters are not necessarily the counterprotesters as they were previously but rather congress, itself, is the target for january 6th. the day before the rioters stormed the congress, an fbi office in virginia also issued an explicit warning that extremists were preparing to travel to washington to commit violence and, quote, war. according to internal reports. the fbi reports cited to an online post where the user declared trump supporters should go to washington and get violent. the supporters said, "stop calling this a march or a rally or a protest. go there ready for war. we get our president or we die." these threat warnings were not just hypothetical. actual arrests occurred in the days leading to the attack. on january 4th, 2 days before the rally, 1 extremely well-publicized arrest was of a
proud boy leader who destroyed a church's black lives matter banner a month earlier during the december 12th second million maga march, report emphasized that when he was arrested, he was carrying high-capacity firearm magazines, which he claimed were meant to be supplied to another rally attendee for january 6th. by the night of january 6th attack, d.c. police had already made six arrests in connection with the planned protests on charges of carrying weapons, ammunitions, assault, assaulting police. this is all in public view. all of it. the truth is usually seen and rarely heard. truth is truth where whether they deny it or not. and the truth is president trump had spent months calling his supporters to a march on a specific day, at a specific
time, in specific places, to stop the certification. and leading up to the event, there were hundreds, hundreds of posts online showing that his supporters took this as a call to arms to attack the capitol. there were detailed posts of plans to attack online. law enforcement warned that these posts were real threats and even made arrests days leading up to the attack. and, yet, in the face of all this, these credibility warnings of serious, dangerous, threats to our capitol, when those thousands of people were standing in front of president trump ready to take orders and attack, this is what he said. "we're going to the capitol, and we fight. we fight like hell. and if you don't fight like
hell, you're not going to have a country anymore." and that's why this is different. and that's why he must be convicted and disqualified. >> representative dean, we'll now return to the events of january 6th, itself. she'll demonstrate president trump's repeated incitement of the crowd that morning as he directed them to the capitol in his last-ditch effort to retain his hold on power. >>
>> for me and for many americans, january 6th is forever etched in our memories. i went to work a sense of excitement. the start of my second term in congress and the first time i would participate in the certification of a presidential election. and then we all know what happened. i know many of us have similar experiences from that day, but i'll briefly share mine. i stood with colleagues in the gallery above the house floor to observe the arizona challenge. moments later, police radios reported a breach of the capitol grounds. someone shouted up to us, "duck
then lie down then ready your gas masks." shortly after, there was a terrifying banging on the chamber doors. i will never forget that sound. shouts and panicked calls to my husband and to my sons. instructions to flee. and then the constant worrying of the gas masks filtering the air. the chamber of the united states house of representatives turned to chaos. for donald trump, it was a very different day. earlier, i showed you donald trump's desperate attempts to maintain power. ignoring adverse court rulings, attacking elected officials, pressuring his justice department, even attacking his own vice president. you saw a man who refused to lose, who was desperate to retain power by any means necessary. you saw a man willing to attack
anyone and everyone who got in his way. and you saw a man who thought he could play by different rules. he told his supporters, as my colleague, ms. plaskett just showed you, exactly what he thought those different rules were. combat, fight, violence. this was not just one speech. this was weeks and weeks of deliberate effort by donald trump to overturn the election results so that he didn't have to give up the presidency. the speech on january 6th builds on, refers to, and amplifies that same pattern, the pattern trump had used and broadcasted for months. he refused to lose. his attacks on others. and his different rules. the only thing different about his speech on january 6th from all these other times that we went through, was that he was no
longer telling his base just that they had to fight to stop the steal. he was finally telling them, now is the time to do it. here's the place. and here's how. for weeks, he urged his supporters to show up at a specific time and place and when they got there, he told them exactly what he wanted. let's start with his desperation. you saw how much planning went into january the 6th. and when the day arrived donald trump's desperation was in full force. between the time he woke up on january the 5th and the start of the save america march, that next day, he had tweeted 34 times. when donald trump wants to get his message across, he is not shy, as you all know. these tweets were relentless. and these tweets all centered on his singular focus, his drumbeat to motivate, anger, and incite his supporters.
his big lie. the presidential election had been rigged, it had been stolen from him, and they had to fight to stop it. and the timing was no coincidence. he sent 34 tweets because this was his last chance to rile up his supporters before the big historic wild event he had planned. now, i won't go through all of these tweets, but let me just highlight a few. at 1:00 in the morning, he tweeted, "if vice president mike pence comes through for us, we will win the presidency. mike can send it back." this will look familiar to you because mr. liu just showed you how trump had privately, he was pressuring and publicly attacking his vice president to stop the certification. and when vice president pence refused, when he explained that the constitution simply does not allow him to stop certification, donald trump provoked his base to attack him.
the late in the evening tweet was no different. it just got more forceful. let's be clear. what donald trump was saying, that vice president pence could send back the certification, was not true. for one thing, all 50 states had ratified this election. and for another, vice president pence explained to him that he does not have the power to unilaterally overturn states' votes and just send the certification back and donald trump knew this but this was his last chance. to get his vice president to stop the certification. here's another example. at 8:17 a.m., he tweeted, "all
a stolen election. a fraud. better fight for trump. president trump spoke for more than 70 minutes. his narrative was familiar. the same message he spent months spreading to his supporters. the big lie. the election was stolen. they should never concede. and his supporters should be patriots and fight much harder to stop the stall to take back our country. the same phrases he spread for weeks but now the message was immediate. now it was just no longer just fight.
it was fight right now. >> all of us here today do not want to see our election victory stolen by a bold and radical left democrat which is what they're doing and stolen by the fake news media. that's what they've done and what they're doing. we will never give up. we will never concede. it doesn't happen. you don't concede when there's theft involved. our country has had enough. we will not take it anymore. and that's what this is all about. and to use a favorite term that all of you people really came up with, we will stop the steal. >> that set the tone. our country has had enough and we will not take it anymore. he told them and us right at the beginning that the only way to take back the country was to fight. let's look at what he said next.
>> and rudy, you did a great job. i'd like a lot of people in the republican party. he's got guts. he fights. >> ms. plaskett showed you example after example of donald trump when confronted with violence praising it. we saw him instruct the proud boys, a violent extremist group, to stand back and stand by. that group was there on january the 6th. we saw him praise a caravan of his supporters after they tried to drive a bus belonging to the biden campaign off the road. the organizer of that attack was there on january the 6th. and we saw him team up with the organizers of the violent second maga million march to plan his rally on january the 6th.
and what does he do at that rally? he tells giuliani he's doing a great job addressing the crowd. saying he has guts to call for fighting. and to be clear, this is what he was praising. >> so, let's have trial by combat. >> "trial by combat." donald trump praised rudy, said he did a good job, had guts for telling the crowd that we need trial by combat. next, more attacks. >> all vice president pence has to do is send it back to the states to recertify and we become the president and you are the happiest people. >> this attack, like the tweets he sent out morning, had a
purpose. convincing his supporters that the future of our country, of our democracy, hinged on whether vice president pence would overturn the election. something he knew pence could not and would not do. he called out vice president pence nine times that day. and each time, he got more forceful. here's what he said at 12:15. >> and we're going to have to fight much harder and mike pence is going to have to come through for us. and if he doesn't, that will be a sad day for our country. because you're sworn to uphold our constitution. now it is up to congress to confront this egregious assault on our democracy and after this, we're going to walk down, and i'll be there with you, we're going to walk down -- we're going to walk down any one you want, but i think right here,
we're going to walk down to the capitol. and we're going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and congresswomen and we're probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them. because you'll never take back our country with weakness. you have to show strength and you have to be strong. >> "we're going to have to fight much harder and mike pence will have to come through for us." that's what he said. and he told the crowd what he meant and exactly what to do. literally, commanding them to confront us at the capitol. he even told them he'd walk there with them. which, of course, was not true. and then he told them exactly what to do when they got to the capitol. "you'll never take your country back with weakness. you have to show strength." and don't forget who is standing
there. the same people ms. plaskett described to you. many people violent. violent people law enforcement had warned would be armed and would be targeting us. one of president trump's key defenses focuses on what he said for a few seconds 15 minutes into the speech. >> i know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard. >> in a speech spanning almost 11,000 words, yes, we did check, that was the one time, the only time, president trump used the word, "peaceful" or any suggestion of nonviolence. the implication of the president's tweets, the rally, and the speeches, were clear. president trump used the word, "fight," or "fighting" 20 times including telling the crowd they needed to "fight like hell" to
save our democracy. we know how the crowd responded to donald trump's words and he knew how they responded to his speech. here is the evidence of how the crowd reacted. >> we're going to walk down to the capitol -- >> yeah! >> and we're probably not -- take back our country with weakness, you have to show strength. >> yes. >> the capitol building. >> take the capitol. >> take the capitol. take the capitol. take the capitol. take the capitol. right now. >> take the capitol. >> over to the capitol building -- >> yeah. >> peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.
>> "storm the capitol." "invade the capitol." "fight, fight, fight, fight." "take the capitol right now." these were the words of the crowd. trump was telling them to fight, and he would keep telling them to fight throughout the rest of his speech. these are not only words of aggression, they are words of insurrection. and if you have any doubt, listen to what he says next. >> today, we see a very important event, though, because right over there, right there, we see the event going to take place and i'm going to be watching because history is going to be made. we're going to see whether or not we have great and courageous leaders or whether or not we have leaders that should be ashamed of themselves. throughout history, throughout eternity. they'll be ashamed.
and you know what, if they do the wrong thing, we should never, ever, forget that they did. never forget. we should never, ever forget. >> the commander in chief points to congress and tells those assembled, "i'm going to be watching. history is going to be made." this was clearly not just some rally or march or protest. this was about donald trump trying to steal the election for himself. claiming that the election was fraudulent, illegitimate, so that his supporters would fight to take it back. in fact, after stoking the crowd's anger for nearly 40 minutes, after repeating false election conspiracy after false election conspiracy, he said this in no uncertain terms. >> you will have an ill legitimate president. that's what you'll have. >> any outcome besides him keeping the presidency would be
illegitimate. this was building on a big lie of a rigged and stolen election. here's what he said a little later in the speech. >> when you catch somebody in a fraud, you're allowed to go by very different rules. so i hope mike has the courage to do what he has to do. >> "when you catch somebody in a fraud, you're allowed to go by very different rules." we told you that context matters. here's the context. this was not just one reference or a message to supporters by a politician to fight for a cause. he assembled thousands of violent people. people he knew were capable of violence. people he had seen be violent. they were standing now, and then he pointed to us, lit the fuse and sent an angry mob to fight
the perceived enemy. his own vice president and the members of congress. as we certiied an election. >> but i said, something's wrong here, something's really wrong. can't have happened. and we fight. we fight like hell. and if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore. our exciting adventures and boldest endeavors have not yet begun. my fellow americans, for our movement, for our children, and for our beloved country, and i say this despite all that's happened, the best is yet to come. so we're going to walk down pennsylvania avenue. i love pennsylvania avenue. and we're going to the capitol. and we're going to try and give
the democrats are hopeless, they're never voting for anything. not even one vote. but we're going to try and give our republicans, the weak ones, because the strong ones don't need any of our help, we're going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country. so let's walk down pennsylvania avenue. i want to thank you all. god bless you. and god bless america. thank you, all, for being here. this is incredible. thank you very much. [ crowd chanting "fight for trump" ] >> "if you don't fight like
hell, you're not going to have a country anymore." and there was only one fight left, and it was a mile up the road. donald trump, the president of the united states, ordered the crowd to march on congress and so the crowd marched. "this is incredible." you heard him say. that is how president trump ended his speech. i'd like to close with a very brief timeline of what was happening in parallel alongside the president as he spoke on the 6th of january. a little after noon, president trump began his speech with a fiery refusal to concede. he commanded the crowd to fight and march down pennsylvania avenue. and around 12:20, some rallygoers, some attendees, began marching. by 12:30, as president trump continued to incite his supporters, large segments of the rally crowd had amassed at the capitol. at 12:53, as the president's speech was playing on cell phone
broadcasts, the outermost barricade of the northwest side of the capitol was breached. and capitol police were forced back to the steps of the capitol. at 1:10, the president ended his speech with a final call to fight and a final order to march to the capitol. at 1:45, the president's followers surged past capitol police shouting, "this is a revolution." just after 2:10, an hour after president trump ended his speech, the insurrectionist mob overwhelmed capitol security and made it inside the halls of congress. because the truth is this attack never would have happened but for donald trump. and so they came, draped in trump's flag and used our flag,
the american flag, to batter and to bludgeon. and at 2:30, i heard that terrifying banging on house chamber doors. for the first time in more than 200 years, the seat of our government was ransacked on our watch. >> mr. president, i think this would be a good time for a break. >> i ask unanimous consent we recess until 4:00 p.m. >> we're recessed. >> 4:00 p.m. 4:00. >> 4:00. >> hi there, everyone. another break in the impeachment
trial of donald j. trump after another presentation by house impeachment managers. featuring donald trump's own words and tweets as smoking-gun evidence of his enthusiasm for violence and his specific and pointed request to his own supporters and some of the very groups who showed up on january 6th to stop the transfer of power. to do so by, quote, different rules and to, quote, fight. he said, "fight" 20 times in this speech. hours before the insurrection. democrats laying brick on top of brick on top of brick to build a wall around any attempt to deny that trump was not calling for violence after, as ted lieu pointed out, every peaceful effort failed. let's bring in our conversation former acting solicitor general and msnbc legal analyst neal katyal. also joining us msnbc impeachment analyst daniel goldman. former rnc chairman michael steele is here.
neal, we haven't heard from you yet today. i used it earlier, what it looked like to me, brick upon brick that tell the same story and make it very difficult to pure around anything other than the facts and actual words utteredly donald trump. >> exactly, nicolle. as a lawyer i have to appreciate the pacing that the house managers have done today. it feels meticulous and careful. when you're on the national stage, the tendency is kind of to speed up and, you know, just let the passions and emotion get to you and race through it. they haven't done that. they've done this kind of, as you say, brick by brick and i think, you know, what it culminates in is trump running out of nonviolent options and leaving only violence at the end. that's all he's got left on january 6th. and the violence being predictable, as representative plaskett put it, and, you know, the proud boys, you know, she notes were wearing trump's slogans, "stand back and stand
by" and the like. i just found it a really meticulous, careful presentation, logical, with emotion built into it, obviously, because of the gravity of the moment. but pretty much the opposite of the horror show presentation we saw yesterday from trump's lawyers. >> daniel goldman, congresswoman stacey plaskett played a video that i remember seeing and it was so haunting. not just for the conduct and the violence that had clearly become something trump supporters felt was on the table for them. but because of donald trump and marco rubio's reaction to it. we'll try to get that tape and replay it for our viewers, but happened in the final weeks of the election. a trump convoy of pickup trucks waving trump flags. tried to run a bus carrying biden/harris staffers off the road. and we were reminded of trump's enthusiasm for violence and i wonder if this pattern of enthusiasm for violence, he also
made comments at his own rallies that he liked people to be roughed up. he'd pay the legal bills if any of his supporters roughed up any protesters. there's been a real -- donald trump has always been public and has let us know that he's personally titillated by violence. that seemed to play an important role in the presentation today. >> i thought they did a fabulous job. and you say laying brick by brick. they put piece after piece after piece of evidence showing how donald trump's supporters used violence and how he either in reaction to what he says or how he after the fact supports the violence. and one of the defenses that we're going to hear, i assume, is that he didn't either -- that he didn't know that there was going to be this mob attack on the capitol. that he was sending them to the capitol to protest peacefully. he does mention peacefully one
time early in that january 6th speech. but what we saw over the last hour and a half was just a devastating compilation of episodes where donald trump supporters used violence, spurred on and incited by trump. it is a pattern, and it helps as madeleine dean said, context means everything. so they're putting the context of all of these past examples of violence at the forefront so that when he speaks and uses similar language on january 6th, they all know what he means. he knows they know what he means. and there's no question then when they go to the capitol what their purpose is and what their understanding of their direction is. so, it just completely eviscerated, i think, any possible defense that he was just talking glibly or peacefully or, you know, he
mentioned peacefully, he didn't intend for any violence, and by the way, there's additional evidence that will come about what he didn't do after the fact. we've heard a little bit about that. that also supports it. but it was a really impressive compilation of video, audio, and text. >> michael steele, i don't think it can be overstated what the enthusiasm for violence means. in terms of what the republican party has green lit because i was watching fox news when trump gave that speech. no one condemned donald trump until mitch mcconnell on the house of the floor started it, then no one was angry about the speech where he said, "fight" 20 times. he said, "our country's had enough and when won't take any more. now we fight." no one was mad at the time the speech was given. there were calls for violence. the night before mike flynn gave a speech calling for violence. rudy giuliani called for combat
trials or some nonsensical but clearly invoking military language and iconography. there was no republican condemnation of the violence. and i wonder what you think is ushered in by all of this acquiescence to what really is a new by all this acwee essence. >> it is a new normal and with you -- josh hawley giving the fist up, yeah, baby, let's dot this, who, by the way, is sitting up in the gallery with his feet up on the chair, probably doing his toenails. the reality is they don't care they're disconnected.
what struck me in the last hour and a half, particularly two, one had to do with the difficulty of the maga rally, whereabout 2,000 people showed up, right? they're screaming "destroy the gop" and i'm thinking, hey, senator hawley, senator cruz, senator mcconnell, senator johnson, how do you like that? are you down with destroying the gop? because that's what your president wants to have happen, because he never gave a damn about your party, and never game a damn about you as a united states senator with a republican label behind your name, what he cared about is how he used you suckers for his own end. that's what that moment said to me, as a former chairman, as a republican for over 45 years,
that's what that moment means to me. how do you like him now? is that what you're going to be voting for in the next few days? >> it goes further. he didn't care about his own vice president. i thought some of the most powerful evidence of the compilation of all the attacks on mike pence. i think it started to turn up in reporting around the white house the trump/pen relationship and it showed up publicly in georgia, and then during the insurrection, there's been no reporting, no evidence that donald trump ever called mike pence to see if he was alive. >> none. none. the word out of the pence camp is like, we're done with it. they're so through with it. but again, you say to yourself all that loyalty, that
man. your man didn't care about you. he was going to throw you to the insurrectionists. they built gallows on the capitol grounds for you, and donald trump has not even called you to say, brother, are you okay? they've got you in a safe place, right? none of that. it speaks for volume now. it's all exposed for these republicans to see what patsys, what fools, how they were so conned, and a lot of us back in 2015 and '16 tried to warn them of it, but they just sat on the stage and let donald trump pick them apart. the culmination i thought was the last word before we took the break. that's the idea that was put forth that the seat of our government was ransacked on our watch. senator, the seat of this government was ransacked on your
watch. your watch. and the american people are now waiting how you will respond. that's what this boils down to. this is not a political trial of any sense. this is a trial about what you allowed to happen to our country. >> yeah. i mean, garrett haake, it does seem to move in a very clear way on the part of the house impeachment managers a conspiracy to incite. i don't know if they're using that language -- >> reporter: absolutely -- >> -- but the evidence depicts a months-long conspiracy to incite violence. was that the objective? >> reporter: it was. it's such an important imbalance, because if you read the trial briefs from both sides, it was always clear this was going to be a huge problem for the defense. the impeachment managers have been making a case from their briefs, and i thought very thoroughly after the last two hours, that incitement didn't start on january 6th.
it didn't start with that speech on the ellipse. the arguments for the defense have been focused heavily on that peach. i thought madeleine dean did a great job of dismissing that, that the president at the time mentioned once peace or peaceful, and 20 times fight or fighting, and did a nice job of laying out the timeline. just like in the last trial, how they tried to broaden the scope beyond the phone call. they're trying to broaden it out. you're seeing the exact same thing happen here. the speech on the ellipse wasn't a one-off. it was a culmination ever time he cheered on the texas bus incident, the previous maga marches in washington, d.c. in the weeks after the election. all of it led to that moment. the defense, at least a paper, has never had a counter-argument
for any of that. i'll be very curious to see if they can come up with one in the next 24 hours. >> i thought it was interesting, garrett, that they brought into evidence and into the case the arrests made of proud boys, who donald trump told to stand by for them. he made that daal on live national television. they heeded the call. i thought they laid out the evidence. they also made clear, like the veteran who said good-bye to his wife and kids. >> reporter: i was at so many of these rallies. people were repeating back the same thing you heard in those video clips. the only way they would tell me if donald trump would lose, is if it was stolen, that's when the war starts, that's when the fighting starts. the fact that the proud boys
made merchandise out of president trump's stand back and stand by is a telling thing. there's a deafening violence where the prosecution is laying out how the president could have affirmatively responded, before we even get to the attack on the capitol, and that's the kind of thing that will -- i'm personally bracing myself for seeing all of this again. that will be the emotional horror show here, but the legal bread crumbs being left by the managers going back months and months and months should, in any normal trial situation, very compelling evidence. congressman jason crow was one of the members who prosecuted the case against donald trump in the first
impeachment i remember talking to you, you talked to my colleague rachel maddow as the insurrection was under way. madeleine deal bringing because the horror of the sounds, the banging. talk to us how it playing into the strategy of this trial? >> frankly it's very hard for many of us who listen to again, but the bottom line what happened on the 6th did not happen overovernight. you don't get thousands of people worked into a frenzy, some of who said they were willing to give their lives on the attack that day, it doesn't happen because of one rally. donald trump laid the stage for it. at the followed multiple steps beginning after november 3rd. he told the big lie, retold the big lie. he brought them to washington,
d.c. he loaded the cannon. and he he not done that. that's what this trial is all about. they made clear the point you're making right now, that this was seeded. eric swallow earlier in the day also made the point this was funded by donald trump and his campaign. the other like he told was he would walk with them. what is the significance of the specificity. the and a little right before the counting of the votes, and he said i will walk with you. it is so complicit. new england of this is an intent.
this was planned. busloads of people been money was flowing from secret sources, and the president knew exactly what he was doing. this is a president who knows his supporters well. all known for his ruckus. he knew the response he was going to get. he was trying to embolden them by saying we're talking together. what he knew -- what he didn't know he was doing is exactly what was going to happen, and again that's what this case is about and the series of steps leading up to january 6th, and we know clearly what the
president's intent was. >> since we've been talking, mitt romney made his way back to the chamber. he said on the day of the insurrection that all republicans had to do was tell their voters the truth have you seen any republicans do that in look light of the dhs warning that there's a continuing domestic threat? >> we are dealing with a dangerous radicalized movement, with the oath keepers and three percenters and other groups that have pled violence over the last couple years, and on january 6th who were intending to assassinate me and other elected officials. that's what we're dealing with. donald trump has radicalized some people in this moment. we have to deal with that. leader at all levels have an
obligation to come out and tell the truth, to say what is true and what is not. if they know it's a lie, which most of them do, and they're not fulfilling that, then they're complicit. these folks have become radicalized in large part, because people in positions of power, people in positions of trust have legitimized it. they've said it's okay, and amplified it. donald trump's own lawyer yesterday said you can go and arrest him if he committed a crime, and marco rubio tweeted something like that, as if on cue, prosecutors in the state of jo
georgia announced a criminal investigation into donald trump's prolonged harassment of elected officials in that state. do you think he'll be prosecuted criminally? >> i don't know. i'm astounded by people who are saying things they know is not true. they use doj or criminal code -- no, this is why we have an impeachment, why the framers developed the constitution for exactly a situation like this. i have to say it's the first time i've ever heard a defensive party say, you should just arrest my client and put him in jail as some sort of defense. i think it goes to show they want to talk about anything other than what happened on
january 6th, because it was so horrific, they want to distract or attention from it. >> so far no defenses of donald trump offered by his defense attorneys. congressman, thank you so much for spending time with us. i want to come back to you, neal, and i want to ask you about the standard or the importance of proving premedication, something that isn't an actual criminal trial in the traditional sense. >> there isn't a standard. impeach ant -- don't you were having a conversation before with garrett about conspiracy and eggs folks on, and that certainly is like what representative dean was pushing in. it's not what trump did, but what he didn't do.
you saw representative negusa up talk about that if we would have been in this situation, we would have used every microphone, ever phone call we had, and that's the sin of omanages, not commission. in criminal law. >> the other sing then that i think was going on, it's a lot of words, very little video, i think, compared to what we would have thought at noon the house managers are laying a methodical, slow foundation. sometimes your eyes will wander
and you're going to think about other stuff. now, in the next few hours we will be hit hard with compelling video. i think it will force the jurors to sit there and think i shouldn't have let my mind wandering for those few minutes. it's a subtle moving when lawyers make, but i think it's about to turn very vivid. one of the things that was already very visit for me, at least was replaying all the of the instances of donald trump cheering for violence. we're now joined by ari melber. i wonder if you can flush out or add to our understanding the importance of showing alps of donald trump's public affinity for violence? >> this was very importance to the case. i think what we saw in the
previews yesterday is the house managers underscoring there was a plot to steal the election, end democracy, and it had sever steps. it had the pressure on the doj and in georgia, and as you were reporting, that's an open inquiry. but the other long-standing calls for violence or even apparent titillation at violence, underscores the intents that donald trump clearly had that day. he had it they understood it to be literal. they understood it to be literal he encouraged violence. they understood it to be literal that endangers those people was the thing they liked, was the thing they cheered.
after the fact when it was clear what happened, they endorsed it. so i think that's very important. we've discussed covering this fairly. there is a theoretically fair defense for any person or politician to say a word or worked were taken out of the context. what the democrats argued here forcefully here, all of this is in context. that's why it's so damning for donald trump. one other point i wanted to mention is picking up on your discussion that abuse of power is not a felony, and it's a sad day in america to have members of congress say, well, go arrest him then, as if it's a counterpoint. what neal and others have discussed, impeachment is in the constitution for any public official for betraying their office or abusing up power. >> thank you very much.
we didn't see him walk in. these ten-minute breaks always become a lot longer, and they're certainly, you know, builds a bit of the anxiety level, but i think at this point the house managers are? a pretty good groove. they have a well prepared, rehearsed presentation. it would become more emotional now, and what we will see after a methodical presentation, we're going to see a lot of video right now. >> order of the senate, please. mr. raskin. at this point we will take you
through the actual day of the attack, they will focus on the threats, the joint session, and law enforcement. i do want to alert everyone that there is some very graphic violent footage coming, so people are aware, and i'm going to call again -- i should also tell you she went to the senior deputy attorney general larry thompson under attorney general ashcroft, so a very well-trained prosecutor, as you can tell. >> mr. president, senators, almost all of us were here on january 6th.
we all have our individuals experiences, what we saw, heard. we've seen clips in the media, but i have to tell you, it was not until preparing for this trial that iunder stood the full scope and learned information that you're going to see, that i understood the effort to attack our seat of government in order to carry out president trump's mission to prevent the certification of a presidential election. it was an attack to our republic, to our democratic process. my colleagues, manager swalwell and i are going to walk you
through the attack on the capitol that day, and the danger that it posed to the vice president, to the speaker of the house, to you all as senators, my colleagues in the house, capitol police, and everyone who works in and around this capitol. as you have heard, president trump had been telling his supporters and his millions of twitter followers that pence had the ability though secure the presidency for trump that mike pence alone had the power to overturn the election results, if he would just do it. but at 12:55 p.m. on january 6th, vice president pence formally refused the president's demand. he wrote, and i quote -- it is
my considered judgment that my oath to support and defend the constitution constrains me from claiming unilateral authority to determine which electoral votes should be counted and which should not. pence ended his letter with a passage including the words "i will do my duty." even though the count resulted in the defeat of his party and his own candidacy, vice president pence had the courage to stand against the president. tell the american public the truth and uphold our constitution. that is patriotism. that patriotism is also what put vice president in so much danger on january 6th by the mob sent
by our president. to the president and the mob he incited, that duty to our constitution was an all-out betrayal, and the vice president was the direct target of that rage. at 12:53 p.m., senators, members of congress, vice president pence were in their respective chambers. outside rioters, including some links to the proud boys, broke through the barricade surrounding the lawn of the capitol. [ yelling ]
>> get back! [ yelling ] >> 12 minutes later, vice president pence began presiding over the joint session of congress, to certify the results of the presidential election. you can see vice president pence gaveling in the joint says here. >> madam speaker, members of congress, pursuant to the constitution and the laws of the united states, the senate and house of representatives are meeting in joint session to ser fit the certificates and count the votes of the electors in the
states for president and vice president of the united states. >> while vice president pence presided over the joint session, trump supporters began their assault on our capitol. radio communications from the metropolitan police department highlight how during and following president trump's speech, trump supporters descended on the capitol and became increasingly violent. what you are about to hear has not been made public before. >> they're approaching the wall now.
>> they're throwing metal poles at you will. >> the assault, now, multiple law enforcement injuries. get up here. >> all right. we're 30 seconds out. we need some -- we're starting to pulling the gates down. - we'g to pulling the gates down. >> cruiser 50, assault, get up here. >> we're here, we're here. >> they're on the fireworks along with -- >> after attempting to dismantle the outermost perimeter, the rioters did every everything in their power to storm past the police and into the capitol. they coordinated, moving metal barricades the police were using
to maintain distance. listen to the yelling of "pull them this way" as they attacked officers trying to hold the line. >> pull them this way, pull forward. [ yelling ] >> go, go! >> at about 1:10, and 1:23 p.m. respectively, capitol police sent out the first evacuation alerts of the day, telling people to evacuate the madison building and the cannon building respectively. shortly after, at 1:45 p.m., trump supporters surge past capitol police, protecting the
capitol's west steps, the side that is facing the white house. in another radio communication between metropolitan police officers, you can hear an officer declare that there is a riot at the capitol at 1:49 p.m. . >> the next video, as well as several videos that follow, have a model of the capitol complex. the video is from the west front of the capitol on the senate side, the side facing the white house. watch the red dot, which moves up the lower steps of the capitol, indicating the approximate location of the
rioters, as they surge past the police. [ yelling ] [ yelling ] >> stop! [ yelling ] >> while the mob that donald trump sent to stop the certification claim closer and closer to breaching the capitol, just one floor below where we are now, vice president pence continued to preside over the session in the senate chamber above. at about 2:12 p.m., secret service quickly and suddenly
evacuated vice president pence from the senate floor. here's the immediate reaction to that evacuation. >> no audio, it just -- they cut out -- the senate controls it. >> it took like they took out vice president pence. >> that's exactly what happened there. i saw the motions, too. >> while the vice president pence was being evacuated from the senate chamber, rioters were at that time breaking into the capitol. this next video shows their approach and the initial breach of the capitol complex. remember to watch the red dot, which is tracking throughout this incident. [ yelling ]
we're seeing the inside view as the mob aprops from outside and beats the doors and windows. you can see the rioter first break the window with the wooden beam and a lone police officer inside responds, and begins to spray the first man who enters, but is quickly overwhelmed. i want you to pay attention to the first group of assailants as they break into the building. the second man through the window is wearing full tactical body armor, and is carrying a baseball bat. others are carrying riot shields. among this group are members of the proud boys, some of whom like dominic, who was recently indicted on conspiracy charges we will discuss later. watch where they're coming on
our model as well. when i first saw this model, it was created for this, i thought back to september 11th. i know a lot of you senators were here. some of you might have been members on the house side. i was also here on september 11th. i was a staffer at that time. my office was on the west front of the capitol. i worked in the capitol, and i was on the house side. this year is 20 years since the attacks of september 11th, and almost every day i remember that 44 americans gave their lives to
stop the plane that was headed to this capitol building. i thank them every day for saving my life and the life of so much others. those americans sacrificed their lives for love of country, honor, duty, all the things that america means. the capitol stands because of people like that. this capitol that was conceived by our founding fathers, that was built by slaves, that remains through the sacrifice of service men and women around the world. when i think of that, and i think of these insurgents, they images, incited by our own president of the united states,
attacking this capitol to stop the certification of a presidential election? our democracy, our republic. at the same time that that breach on this capitol building occurred, at approximately 2:13 p.m., just one floor up, while senator lankford was speaking on the senate floor, senator grassley, who had taken over for vice president pence, called an unscheduled immediate recess of the senate. a senate aide approached senator lankford and informed hem that -- him that the capitol had been breached. senatorgrassley is immediately escorted out of the chamber.
>> thank you. >> now, while this was going on, officer eugene goodman responded to the initial breach. you all may have seen footage of officer goodman previously, but there's more to his heroic story. in this security footage, you can see officer goodman running to respond to the initial breach. officer goodman passes senator mitt romney, and directs him to turn around in order to get to safety. on the first floor, just beneath them, the mob had already started to search for the senate that i am better. officer goodman made his way down to the first floor, where he encounters the same
>> back up. back up. [ yelling ] >> although they were shouting that they did not have any weapons, we know from the earlier video that that's not true. the second assailant through that breach was the one carrying a metal baseball bat. we know there were other weapons there that day. did you hear the other shouts? we're here for you. he's one person, we're thousands. and where do they count the votes? they were coming at the urging of donald trump to keep congress, a separate branch of
government, from certifying the results of an election. they were within 100 feet of where the vice president was sheltering with his family. they were just feet away from one of the doors to this chamber, where many of you remained at that time. i also want to show you a different angle, from the security footage of office goodman's acts. this video is on the second floor of the senate wing of the capitol. the red dot, as you recall, represents the insurrectionists. the blue dot is officer goodman, who led the mob away from the chamber just minutes earlier. on the left-hand side of the
video, and watch how officer goodman provokes the rioters and purposely draws them toward the other officers waiting down the hall. the rioter seen carrying the baseball bat is the same one we saw moments ago breaching the window a the first floor. while all of this was going on, vice president pence was still in the room near the senate chamber. it was not until 2:26 that he was evacuated to a secure location. this next security video shows that evacuation. his movements are depicted by the orange dot in our model. the red and blue dots represents the location where the mob and officer goodman were, and where officer goodman led the mob away from the chamber just moments ago.
you can see vice president pence and his family quickly moved down the stairs. the vice president turns around briefly, as he's headed down. as pence was being evacuated, rioters started to spread throughout the capitol. those inside helped other rioters break in through doors in several locations around this entire building. the mob was looking for vice president pence because of his patriotism, because the vice president had refused to do what the president demand and overturn the election results. during the assault on the capitol, extremists reportedly coordinated online and discussed how they could hunt down the vice president. journalists in the capitol
reported they heard rioters say they were looking for pence, in order to execute him. trump supporters had elected a gallows on the lawn in front of the capitol building. another group of rioters chanted "hang mike pence" as they stood in aopen door." you can hear the security alarm, and can hear the mob calling for the death of the vice president of the united states. [ chanting ] [ chanting ] >> this wasn't an isolated area or incident where that was being said. it was going on everywhere.
here's another example of the crowd outside yelling "bring out pence." "bring him out." [ chanting ] >> after president trump had primed his followers for months and inflamed the rally-goers that morning, it is no wonder that the vice president of the united states was the target of their wrath, after pence refused to overturn the election results. listen to this man explain. >> well, congress, the cowards hid inside and were emergency escorted away because of fear of the people. of course they're cowards, can't
face the people, pence lied to us, is a total treasonous pig. his name will be mud forever. now the real battle begins, and it looks like the american people are very pissed. so good luck with that. peace out. >> peace out. several insurrectionists describe what they had planned to do if they encountered the vice president or other lawmakers. one of them, dom any, also know as spas, is a member of the proud boys he command deered, entered the capitol and paved the way for dozens of nextists. as you recall, from an earlier
video, pizola was one of the first wave of rioters to breach the building. you can see a screen shot from the video that we showed earlier. on the right, you can see him in the mob chase capitol police officers goodman through the building. he's since been charged with eight federal crimes for his conduct related to january 6th. according to an fbi agent's affidavit submitted to the court, the group that was with him during capitol confirmed they were out to murder anyone they got their hands on. here is what the fbi said, and i quote -- other members of the group talked about things they had done that day, and they said that anyone they got their hands on, they would have killed, including nancy pelosi, and
quote, they would have killed vip mike pence if given the chance. they were talking about assassinating the vice president of the united states. during the course of the attack, the vice president never left the capitol, remained locked down with his family -- with his family -- inside the building. remember that, as you think about these images and sounds of the attack. the vice president, our second in command was always at the center of it. vice president pence was threatened with death by the president's supporters, because he rejected president trump's demand that he overturn the election. the mob also wrenn after the -- went after the speaker of the
house, who along with the joint session was precising over the house. armed and organize the nextists trained their sights on speaker pelosi. they sought out the speaker on the floor and in her office, publicly declared their intent to harm or kill her, ransacked her office, and terrorized her staff. they did it because donald trump sent them on this mission. as the insurrectionists got closer, capitol police rushed the speaker from the house floor at 2:15 p.m., mere minutes after the capitol was first breached. they recognized immediately that she was in danger. the speaker was not just rushed from the floor. the capitol police deemed the threat so dangerous that they evacuated her entirely from the capitol complex.
rushing her to a secure off-site location. the insurrectionists' intent to murder the speaker of the house is well documented, in charging documents now available. we know from the rioters themselves that if they had found speaker pelosi, they would have killed her. i have already discussed proud boys member dominic for his conduct on january 6th. as you will recall, the affidavit some of the submitted to the court, the group he tacked the capitol, confirmed anyone they would have gotten their hands on they would have killed, including nancy pelosi. william calhoun, a lawyer from georgia, also participated in the insurrection that day. he too has been charged to his actions. this insurrectionist detailed
his criminal activity at the capital online. calhoun wrote about his involvement on his own facebook page. here's the post -- and get this. the first of us who got upstairs kicked in nancy pelosi's office door and pushed down the has toward her inner sanctum. the mob howling with rage, crazy nancy probably would have been torn into little pieces, but she was nowhere to be seen. crazy nancy. that's trump's nickname for the speaker of the house. then he explains he and his group only abandoned their claim to the speaker's i've when, quote, a s.w.a.t. team showed up. he writes -- a s.w.a.t. team showed and we retreated back to the rotunda and continued our hostile takeover of the capitol building.
retreated, hostile takeover. he's using military terms for this attack. the mob continued to look for speaker pelosi throughout the time it occupied the capitol, including invading her offices. watch for how the mob seeks nancy pelosi's office, which is marked in red, and the how chamber itself. >> where are you, nancy? we're looking for you. >> where is she? >> nancy? oh nancy? nancy? where are you, nancy? >> during the siege, the speaker's staff took cover in her office, hiding in fear for their lives for hours, as rioters broke in and ransacked
her office, as the rioters were breaking into the capitol, her staff retreated into an interior room. eight of them gathered in the conference room, about the same time capitol police announced the capitol had been breached, speaker pelosi's staff heeded the call to shelter in place. on our model, you can see the rioters in the rotunda in red and the speaker's officer again in orange. this is a security video, so there is no sound. this is a seco there is no sound. as you can see here, the staff moves from their offices through the halls, and then enters a door on the right-hand side. that's the on youer door of a conference room, which also has an inner door that they barricaded with furniture. the staff then hid until a conference room table in that inner room.
this is the last staffer going in, and then barricading themselves inside of the inner office. after just seven minutes of them bare indicating themselves and the last staffer entering the door on the right, a group of rioters enter the hallway outside. once inside the rioters have free rein in the speaker of the house's offices. in this security video, pay attention to the door that we saw those staffers leading into and going into. one of the rioters you can see is throwing his body against the door three times until he breaks open that outer door. luckily, when faced with the
inner door, he moves on. another rioters later tried, unsuccessfully, to break through that inner door. at this point the mob had already broken into the speaker's formal conference room that is in the back of the hall at the top of the video. i want to play some audio we have the the speaker's staff with the rioters at the door that day. you can hear the terror in their voice, as they describe what happens to them as they are bare indicated in that conference room. please listen carefully, because the starers is whispering into a phone as he hides from the rioters that are outside the door. >> you can hear the pounding in
the background as that staffer is speaking. one of those staffers explained later they could hear the mob gus through her offices, breaking down the door and yelling, where are you, nanny nancy? they also vandalized the office and documented their crimes on social media. they stole objects, desecrated the office of the speaker of the house of representatives of the united states. as you can see in these photos, rioters broke down a door. they also shattered a mirror. at 2:50 p.m., several rioters entered speaker pelosi's office. the world is all now too familiar with the images from
these slides. if you look closely, however, at the now infamous pictures of barnett with his feet on the desk, you may see something that you didn't notice previously. here's a better look. as this photo highlights, he's carrying a stun gun tucked into his waistband. the fbi identified the vice as a 950,000-volt walking stick. it could have inexcited anyone he used it against. richard barnett bragged about his actions, proud about the way he desecrated the speaker's office. he left a note -- we will not back down. here's barnett in his own words. >> i didn't steal it.
i found -- and they are mason me. i couldn't see, and so i figured, well, i'm in her office, i'm going to -- on her desk, and i left her a note on her desk. it just says, trump's mob ransacked the speaker of the house's office. they terrorized her staff. again, that is a mob that was sent by the president of the united states to stop the certification of an election. the vice president, the speaker of the house, the first and second in line to the presidency were performing their constitutional duties, presiding over the election certification
the capitol had been breached. those officers kept fighting back for hours and hours to hold the line. they fought to defend the capitol building and all of us within it. but they weren't there just to protect us and they did and our staff and the custodial staff and all the people who work so hard in this building. they were there to protect the votes of the american people that were being counted that day. i will show you more later about what that day was like for those brave officers. but first, let's go back to what was happening where manager plaskett left off in the house chamber. rioters who had entered the building through the senate quickly spread out through the capitol. many headed towards the house and senate chambers. after speaker pelosi was ushered out, chairman mcgovern was
presiding in the house attempting to keep the counting process going. on our phones, members were receiving security updates and watching social media to see the horror that was going on outside. we never thought it would make its way in. by 2:25 p.m., rioters who were already in the building opened the east side doors of the capitol rotunda to let more of the mob in. they quickly flooded through the doors, overwhelming the officers. this is new security footage of the doors and the mob identified with the red dot on the model of the capitol. if you look closely, you'll see the first person at the door holding a trump flag.
inside the house chamber, a security officer suspended the floor debate to update members. >> masks under your seats. please grab a mask and be prepared. >> we were told there were tear gas masks underneath our seats and be prepared to grab them. determined to keep the count going, chairman mcgovern called the house back into session but four minutes later at 2:30 p.m., the house abruptly recessed. a new security announcement was
made. >> get down under your chairs if necessary so we have folks entering the rotunda and coming down this way, so we'll update you as soon as we can. but just be prepared. stay calm. >> as i heard that announcement on the floor, i saw the new house chaplain on just her fourth day on the job walk to the front podium unannounced and admits the chaos. she started to recite a prayer for peace. uncertain what would happen next, i sent a text message to my wife. i love you and the babies. please hug them for me. i imagine many of you sent a similar message. what we cannot see from inside the chamber was that outside, the mob was growing larger and
larger and approaching our doors, but we could hear them. this security footage which does not have sound shows a close-up of trump's mob as they move toward the second floor of the house chamber to stop the counting of votes. in the back of the group, you see one individual carrying a stop the steal sign. they get within footsteps of the house door. the next video is the viewpoint of the insurrectionists. it begins with the mob amassing and cuts ahead to show you their
steal, stop the steal. >> those doors at home are the doors the president of the united states walks through when he gives the state of the union address. you heard one man yell, no violence and another responded, it's too late for that. they don't listen without that. they were there to stop the certification of the election. at this point, inside the house chamber, we can now hear the pounding on the doors. at 2:35 p.m., members on the house floor were told an evacuation route was secured and was time to leave. this video shows members of congress exiting to the side of the podium where we would go through the house lobby and downstairs.
because of coronavirus restrictions, congressional members had been waiting in the gallery for their time to speak just one level above the house floor. representatives, staff, journalists, all took cover under their chairs. helped each other put on their gas masks and held hands as rioters gathered outside. here in this slide, you see representative jason crow, comforting our colleague, representative susan wild. the rioters continue to flood the house chambers, kicking down the walls as they pass them. this security video shows ashli babbitt, where the members were leaving.
>> inside the chamber, representatives, staff and journalists remain trapped in the gallery. one floor above the house floor and heard the gunshot. my colleague, representative dan kildee, produced this recording. >> out of fear that they'd be seen or taken by the mob, my colleagues were telling each other to take off their congressional pins. that buzzing sound that you hear in the background of these videos was a sound of the gas masks. it was not until approximately 2:50 p.m., about six minutes after the shooting, downstairs, remaining members, staff and journalists in the gallery were finally able to flee.
and this security footage video, you can see them exiting. many members are still wearing their gas masks. they walk just feet away from where capitol police are holding an insurrectionist at gunpoint. just minutes earlier, that insurrectionist had tried to open the gallery door and thankfully, was stopped by a tactical team.
although members were now being moved to another location, the mob continued to fight to stop the count, to find the members, to engage with the police. the building was not yet secure. this security video from 2:56 p.m. shows the mob in the house of representatives wing on the second floor of the capitol. insurrectionists who are still inside the building are fighting with the police who are overwhelmed and trying to get them out. throughout this presentation, we have been very careful to not share where members of congress were taken on the paths they followed, to get out and off the floors. but that very issue was under discussion by the insurrectionists themselves. one example comes from an fbi
affidavit, which stated that a leader of a militia group known as the oath keepers received messages while he was at the capitol. the leader was given directions to where representatives were thought to be sheltering and instructions to, quote, turn on gas, seal them in. and as you know, the threat to the senate was no less than that of the members of the house. the mob approached the senate with the same purpose, fulfilling president trump's goal of stopping the count. delaying the certification of the electoral college votes of the american people. as you heard from manager plaskett, vice president pence was moved away from the area near the senate chamber around 2:25 p.m. by that time, rioters had breached several areas close to this chamber and they were flooding the hallways just outside and nearby.
the senate chamber was not evacuated until 2:30 p.m. the mob had been in the building for more than 15 minutes. this new security footage of senators and staff leaving the chamber will be displayed on the screens. it is silent. you cannot see it in this footage, but quick thinking, senate floor staff grabbed and protected the electoral ballots that the mob was after.
those of you who were here that day will recall that once you left the senate floor, you move through a hallway to get to safety. that hallway was near where officer goodman had encountered a mob and led them upstairs and away from the senate chamber. you know how close you came to the mob. some of you, i understand, could hear them, but most of the public does not know how close these rioters came to you. as you were moving through that hallway, i paced it off. you were just 58 steps away from where the mob was amassing and where police were rushing to stop them. they were yelling. in this security video, you can see how the capitol police
additional security footage shows how leader schumer and the members of his protective detail had a near miss with the mob. they came within just yards of rioters and had to turn around. here in this new video, you see leader schumer walking up a ramp, going up the ramp with his detail, he'll soon go out of view. seconds later, they return and run back down the hallway and officers immediately shut the door and use their bodies to keep them safe. at 2:45 p.m., shortly after senators were ushered to safety
from the senate floor, insurrectionists reach this senate gallery. following video was filmed by a new yorker reporter. minutes later, the insurrectionists invaded and desecrated the senate floor. these vandals shouted and rifled through the desks in this room. they took pictures of documents and of themselves, celebrating they have taken over the floor and stopped the counting of electoral college votes.
>> ted cruz's objection to the arizona -- >> he was going to sell us out all along. >> objection to counting electoral votes on the state of arizona. >> there's got to be something here. scum bags. >> larry brock, who was arrested for his role in the insurrection, was photographed on the senate floor wearing a helmet, tactical gear and carrying flex cuffs. this man, also in the senate gallery, eric munnchel.
like brock, dressed in what appears to be tactical gear. also holding up flex cuffs. if the doors to this chamber had been breached just minutes earlier, imagine what they could have done with those cuffs. after, the capitol was in lockdown for five hours. as long as it took to get back to the capitol, to get back to the certification of the election, it could have been so much longer. or we might not have been able to resumed at all. as horrific as it was, 140 officers injured, three officers
who ultimately lost their lives, we all know that awful day could have been so much worse. the only reason it was not because of the extraordinary bravery of the men and women of the capitol police and the metropolitan police departments. for hours and hours, these insurrectionists were in hand to hand combat with these brave men and women. like some of you, i come from a law enforcement family. my dad was a cop. my two brothers, my little brothers are cops who walk the beat today. i'm proud of them. and like in every law enforcement family, when we hang up the phone, we don't only say i love you, we say, be safe. focus now on the attack and what it was like for the officers defending the capitol that day.
and again, i want to warn you that the following audio and videos are graphic and are unsettling. but it's important that we understand the extent of what occurred. here's an audio recording from the radio traffic of the dc metropolitan department describing the police violence. >> you hear the officer describe they're using munitions.
they, the rioters are using munitions against us. this video shows how the sprays that were described were used against the officers. in a separate metropolitan police department radio traffic recording, you can hear an officer when he realizes that the insurrectionists had overtaken the police line.
>> calls out 10-33, the code for emergency. officer in need of assistance. his words, we've lost the line. hours after members of the house and senate had left this area, on the west front of the building, the mob continued to grow, continued to beat the officers as they tried to get in. and this new security video, you can see the mob attacking officers with the crutch, a hockey stick, a bull horn, and a trump flag.
afternoon was constant. metropolitan police officer michael fanone, a 20 year police veteran with four daughters, part of a line of officers protecting the capitol. he was one of three officers that the mob dragged down the stairs. when they dragged him, they stole his badge, his radio, his ammunition magazine, and they tased him. triggering a heart attack. here, he describes his experience. >> looks like a medieval battle scene. >> some of the most brutal combat i've ever encountered. at one point, i got tased. people were yelling, we got one, we got one. >> officer christina lowry who regularly serves in npds, narcotics and special investigation division also protected the front capitol entrance. here's her experience.
>> i mean, i can't say enough about the officers that were there. the officers that were on the front line, and when i say the front line, i mean, literally, officers that were in a line, stopping these people that were beating them with metal poles, they were spraying them with bear mace. i mean, they did everything in their power to not let those people in. and this was going on for hours. >> around 4:30 p.m., hours into the capitol riots, officer daniel hodges protecting a west side capitol entrance when rioters who were trying to stop the certification trapped him between two doors. when officer hostages was interviewed later, this is how he described what was happening. >> threw down a huge metal object, hit me in the head. i was also knocked down. the medical mask i was wearing at the time got pulled up over my eyes so i was on the ground and blinded and they started to just attack me from all sides.
>> rioters crushed officer hodges. he was wedged in the doorway, blood dripping from his mouth. he was struggling to breathe. all while the insurrectionists hit him. officer hodges' experience reminds you of what he and many other officers experienced that day. what they went through. we're also reminded of the three officers who lost their lives. capitol hill police officer sicknick, levingood and metropolitan police officer smith. in law enforcement families, we pray for our loved one and know the scripture of matthew chapter 5 verse 9. blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called the children of god. i'm sorry i have to show you the
>> hi, everyone. i'm nicolle wallace. how do we know they were trump supporters? murdered a police officer, torture of others and essentially sought to carry out an assassination attempt against mike pence and nancy pelosi, because they told us so. so did donald trump. we are back with neil katyell and daniel goldman and clare mccaskill, it is truly shocking to us to witness. are you okay, clair. >> yeah, i'm okay. >> you need a minute? >> you know, it's just so hard, nicolle. watching my friends and colleagues run through that hall in fear. in our own capitol building and then i mean, my anger, i am so sad that my anger that the nerve
of this man to claim he supports police and supports law and order and he was sitting in his office while this was going on and did nothing. i mean, that and that alone makes this an impeachable offense, he failed to do nothing to protect the people in that building once he knew it had completely gotten out of hand and turned violent. it is just heartbreaking. >> i think the hearts of everyone that was in the building have been revealed as being broken as yours, clair mccaskill and the only question before the country is, what will be done? this was a president who summoned a mob to kill his vice president and we will rack that video and show it to you again in a moment. but whatever you think of republicans and democrats, the
vice president of the united states' life was in danger and in a presentation so precise and haunting, the rioters and insurrectionists who went to, quote, hang mike pence, were alarmingly close to him. also want to talk about something that we may not have understood. the capitol police were heroic in every way. and they were the victims of this insurrection as much as anybody else. >> first, i hope they figure out how, in the future, to make sure that the men and women who are protecting the capitol and the people who work there have the support they need. there was clearly a major failure that they were so overwhelmed and so easily overwhelmed, but the fact that
they fought and fought and fought and were doing everything they could, including using their own wiles to taunt and draw the terrorists away from their targets, it shows a level of professionalism and courage that is just amazing. >> it is amazing. i'm going to give you a second, clair, and i want to focus in on what we understand now through this video presentation. we understand the house impeachment managers were able to harness video footage, security footage and present a case that makes clear that assassinating mike pence and nancy pelosi was the intent of the insurrectionists, of the trump supporters and let me read you what donald trump tweeted after mike pence was evacuated, after that stunning evacuation of mike pence and his family,
his wife and children. this is what donald trump tweeted ten minutes after mike pence was evacuated in video that was presented as evidence. donald trump tweeted, quote, mike pence didn't have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our country and our constitution. giving states a chance to certify a correct set of facts, not the fraudulent or inaccurate set of ones which they were asked previously to certify. usa demands truth. donald j trump, january 6, 2021, tweet that may live in infamy. garrett haig back with us. what the republicans have to decide today, it would appear, after all that evidence, are they for or against protecting the lives of police officers and are they for or against holding to account he who would incite an assassination attempt of vice president mike pence? >> reporter: nicolle, i'm still trying to put it together after watching that video myself. i said this on twitter.
i don't know how any thinking person can watch this presentation and not draw the straight line from donald trump to the attack. i mean, this is why the constitutionality argument was so important to some of these republican senators because that's the only thing you can hang your hat on. you can't look at the evidence from the months leading up to this. you can't look at the evidence from that day. you can't look at the people decked out in front gear shouting hang mike pence and not see the straight line and, you know, watching all of this, i was just struck over and over by how close we came to this being so much worse. senator schumer, my colleagues who were in the house chamber and around the senate chamber were to being in a really bad way and how close mitt romney was. i mean, we saw that video, one of my colleagues was caught up with him off the floor. he said he had no idea how close he was to the rioters, said it was incredibly emotional and distressing.
he's looking for officer goodman right now to find him and thank him. i mean, we're all kind of reliving this, but also learning, i think, for the first time, just how much worse this could have been and i know that's true of some of these lawmakers too who thought they knew what happened on that day and are learning it in even more disturbing detail now. >> garrett haake, stacey plaskett talked about something that was a gut punch. 9/11, heroes on the flight who brought down the plane that was heading for the nation's capitol. it was, let's listen to it. we have it. >> this year is 20 years since the attacks of september 11th. and almost every day, i remember that 44 americans gave their
lives to stop the plane that was headed to this capitol building. i thank them every day for saving my life and the life of so many others. those americans sacrificed their lives for love of country, honor, duty, all the things that america means. the capitol stands because of people like that. this capitol that was conceived by our founding fathers, that was built by slaves, that remains through the sacrifice of servicemen and women around the world and when i think of that, and i think of these insurgents, these images, incited by our own president of the united states
attacking this capitol to stop the certification of a presidential election, our democracy, our republic. >> one of the men among that group that brought the flight down, todd beamer, his famous last words were let's roll. the last words from donald trump's allies were, let's turn the page. >> that's not going to happen. that's the bottom line. that's what this is about today. you can't turn the page on it and you can't turn the page on the five people who died that day, on the two officers who took their own lives in the weeks that followed, at least in part because of the trauma of what they experienced. you can't see this and just move on. it defies any logic, any thinking ability of any real
serious person to say, yeah, we're just going to move on from this. it's not possible. you talked about the heroism here. look at officer goodman, the guy in the ultimate wrong place at the wrong time but made all the right decisions. now, i covered npd, dc local cops for a couple of years before i came to this network. those guys know how to do protests, violent ugly protests and hearing the emotion in the voices on those recordings of the scanners of these officers who were getting their lines pushed back and overwhelmed, spoke to me. that doesn't happen. that's just not how this goes. the level of fear in people who know what they're doing in these scenarios is striking to me and i just have to keep going back to this idea of how much worse this could have been and how lucky everybody who stands in this room and who does, who works up here is that this wasn't so much worse. >> garrett, don't go far. we'll come back to you early and
often. democratic senator mark warner of virginia. senator, thank you for spending time with us. can you tell us what it's like, how this testimony is landing in the room, especially seeing one's self as part of the evidence, entered into evidence, running obviously because there was a real threat. >> nicolle, it brings back all of the emotions i felt on january 6th where we saw these thugs take over our capitol. where we had to be escorted off. it brings back the anger, the frustration. i mean, the congresswoman probably said it eloquently as anyone when she recalled 20 years after 9/11 and people giving their lives to protect this building and what it represents and these thugs incited by the ultimate loser
donald trump rampaging through these halls with a certain almost blood lust. i don't know how, i pride myself on this job, trying to put myself in the other person's shoes, trying to be bipartisan. god, i pray that testimony may help some of my republican colleagues rethink how they're going to vote. rethink who they are and what they're going to stand for, whether they're going to cheapen the courage of these capitol police and metropolitan police or even 44 americans who gave their lives to bring down that plane 20 years ago. it's all flooding back and i say that as somebody who's been a senator, a governor.
from weeks on end, but this kind of, those kind of images, and the part they've not even spoken to yet is those images and those thugs in the halls of our congress was almost like donald trump's final presence to people like vladimir putin and our adversaries who were going to use those images for their propaganda purposes for many, many years to come. i just hope and pray it has shot some of my republican colleagues to the core as it has me. >> you're someone who i have never seen not in complete command of your emotions and you never betray that spirit of bipartisanship, so i'm not trying to instigate anything, but i do not understand why if everybody acted the same way in the face of the threat, so no one is running faster or slower than anyone else, no one is
questioning the police officers who were trying to save all of your lives. why then, why then is it a partisan matter, how to answer that question? it was a bipartisan experience. the assassination attempt that was depicted in that video on the vice president, mike pence, has been revealed. that was the intent. they were hunting mike pence. they were hunting nancy pelosi. the most senior members of each party. why is this process partisan? >> i have no valid explanation. i know some of my colleagues, remember when bill cassidy stood up yesterday and voted his conscience and i just hope and pray more will because yes, i want unity, i want to turn the page, i want to make sure we get back to the agenda moving past covid and get our economy going,
in those images. and as you said, that mob would not have given a damn if they'd caught any senator and asked them, well maybe the exception of some of the ones who gave them their fist salute, but i don't think they would have given a damn about what party you belong to. these people had blood lust in their eyes and their voices and that bloodlust was incited and brought about by donald trump's inability to accept the fact that he lost by 7 million votes and the will of american people was carried out and again, i hope you get a chance to ask some of my colleagues up to this point whether it's fear of political retribution of trump. it cannot be based upon any factual presumption that there was not a direct connection between the language that trump
used for weeks on end. the speech he gave that day on the 6th, when these thugs were saying, go after pence, stop the steal. all of the words that trump has used when they shout his name as if he's some kind of a hero when he's nothing but a loser. i hope you get a chance. i know i'm going to have those conversations. i just, in certain ways, i know we want to give trump the due process of letting his lawyers make their presentation. for me, i think voting on this issue, won't. >> should mitch mcconnell end this now and call his caucus together? >> i think for country, for
anyone who watched this, again, and i hope and pray that literally tens of the millions of people who support donald trump, who voted for him watched these last couple of hours because all but the most extreme, i think, have got to see there is nothing american about trump's language, his instigation, his willingness, not only to go after pelosi but to go after his own vice president, the most loyal guy, somebody that was loyal to the point, i think, of absurdity at times but the fact he was willing to be thrown under the bus as well. i don't think that's going to happen, but i don't know how any member of the senate who was on the floor that day on the 6th isn't rocked to their core by the testimony images of what
happened. >> you mentioned a member that held his fist up, members josh hawley and had his feet up on the chair and was, i don't know, paying bills. mike said he was painting his toenails, i doubt that. what responsibility does josh have for the fact, you're talking about millions of trump voters who still believe the big lie, josh certainly hasn't told them it's a lie and neither has ted cruz or marco rubio. what responsibility do they have for continuing what the department of homeland security says is an ongoing threat of domestic terrorism through the end of april? >> chairman of the intelligence committee, i know what a continuing threat anti-government extremists pose to our country and it is my job to help give law enforcement and the intelligence community the tools they need to fare it out, this extremism. i'm not going to comment about
whether senators have to live with their own conscience, but i know my job and my resolve is to make sure those images never are seen again on the basis and this event never happens again. i think about jamie raskin's daughters, i got daughters about the same ages. the notion his daughter would never want to be back in the capitol again after she went through that experience, i think, very powerful testimony yesterday. but again, my hope and prayer is that there will be outliers no matter what, there will be people that will be loyal to trump in some bizarre way, probably forever, but i hope and pray that the vast majority of my colleagues reflect on what happened this afternoon and whenever we come to the end point, we'll actually vote our
conscience because this is not about republican or democrat. this is, donald trump is not a republican. donald trump is only about donald trump. i, frankly, want there to be a strong two party system with a strong republican party. a lot of my democratic colleagues don't agree with me on that, but i want there to be a principled republican party but there cannot be a principled republican party that continues to pledge allegiance to donald trump because that individual represents no principles other than his own self-interest. >> senator, thank you for spending some time with us today. thank you for your candor. i really appreciate it. thank you. >> thank you. >> we are now joined by msnbc political analyst, the former senator claire mccaskill. sorry for coming up on you hot a few minutes ago and then msnbc chuck rosenberg. but the point is you're not alone.
garrett haake came on with as much emotion. >> i wish there was some way we could make america watch the last two hours. there will be a huge number of people that will see snippets of people, but watching the whole thing is so powerful and, you know, the legacy of this president is going to be that he leaves millions of people in america doubting our election process, doubting whether or not our elections are free of massive fraud, and the legacy should really be what he unleashed. the maiming and killing of police officers. elected officials running in fear. people, as mark said, with bloodlust, hunting for his vice
president, him tweeting out to go after his vice president while this violent attack is under way. it is stunning to me and i am shocked that there haven't been more republicans, just in the last half hour, that have stepped up and said, okay, i cannot, i cannot any longer, play games with this man who has done this and we'll see what happens over the next few days, but this was very emotional and it was incredibly powerful. >> republican party long associated itself with being tough on foreign terrorists and wanting to get to the bottom of benghazi is awol. awol on white supremacists and domestic terrorism, but threaten their own lives. i didn't see any republicans in those images saying, no, no, i'm cool, going to wait this out. they didn't. i'm glad republican members of the house and senate heeded the
warnings from law enforcement not to follow into the hands of the insurrectionists, of the white supremacists, the oath keepers and the three percenters. the senator is right. they would have represented a threat to the lives of anyone but i wonder where we go from here. >> senator warren was right. i don't think that crowd was making any distinction about republicans or democrats. everyone there was at risk. nicolle, if i may and stop me if i may not. when delegate from the virgin islands told the story about flight 93, the one that was crashed in pennsylvania about 150 miles northwest of washington, dc with the nation's capitol as its target, it made me think of another flight 93 story and it's an incredibly important one because it involves what the oath meant to a young f-16 pilot. it was a woman named heather penny, and i don't know if she's
a republican or democrat. never asked her, i could care less. she was among the first generation of women to fly an f-16 on the morning of september 11, 2001, with the dc national guard out of andrews air force base in maryland. they had a report of another plane in the air and she was ordered up with another pilot, mark, to go find that plane and intercept that plane and to bring it down. now, here's the kicker. neither her f-16 nor mark's was armed. pre- 9/11, they didn't have time for that. it wasn't protocol, i should say. >> i want to hear the whole story. i have to dip into chuck schumer, but please, hit pause for us. >> the bravery of our police officers is incredible. it was compelling and i just hope that our republican colleagues have an open mind as they look to seeing what we've
seen today. the managers made just an overwhelmingly compelling case as far as i am concerned. as for me and my situation, i just want to give tremendous credit to the capitol police wh like the rest of the capitol police officers, they are utterly amazing and great and we love them. >> chuck, it was just a moment. but we interrupted your very emotional story. please continue. >> no, no problem at all. very brief recap, on the morning of september 11th, a young f-16 pilot named heather penny stationed at andrews air force base with the air national guard was ordered up in the air to intercept flight 93 which was as far as they knew en route to washington and the capitol building was likely its target. protocol 9/11 is those planes
were not hot. they didn't have time to arm it. so lieutenant heather penny and lieutenant mark sasseville ordered up to intercept the plane. the only way to bring down a plane if you're not armed as an f-16 pilot is to ram it. and if you ram it, you die. they both understood they could not eject from their planes because if they did, there was a chance their f-16s would miss the target point. they understood when they launched that morning if they found flight 93 and they fulfilled their mission that. >> met their duty, they would die. unbeknownst to them, the plane had already been crashed before they had launched. but her oath and his oath and all the oath of all these men and women served is to support and defend the constitution of the united states, even if it means dying in the line of duty. and so it reminds me, nicolle, that every member of the senate took an oath as a juror to
listen to this evidence and to weigh it impartially and to rend area verdict consistent with the evidence, not consistent with their political fortunes, not consistent with what is best for them and their presidential prospects if they entertain them, but consistent with their duty as officers of the united states and members of the senate. in this case, members of the jury. heather penny and mark sasseville, whatever their party and whatever their politics were prepared to die for this country on september 11th. many others did. that is what fulfilling an oath means. these senators are now jurors. they've taken an oath. this evidence is overwhelming. and if they don't abide their oath, they ought to pay the consequences at the ballot box and at least become in the dustbin of history disgraced to their oath and to the senate and >> i think all of us who worked in government on 9/11 are
forever shaped by the stories of first responders running into the towers while others were running out and stories like the one you shared. and it is exactly what we want to ask our next guest, senator angus king who joins us. senator, we have talked for years now about your unending optimism that some of your friends on the other side of the aisle might be capable of receiving a fact. and the last time we went around and around this question is around the last impeachment, whereby the end the facts weren't in question, and the republicans were so fearful of the fact pattern that they didn't want john bolton to open his mouth. they refused to hear him as a witness. the facts once again are not in question. and all the video evidence presented today makes clear that violence was how trump rolled. he liked it. he cheered it on, and he inspired it. so far as to inspire what we
learned from today's video testimony was an assassination attempt on his own vice president and the speaker of the house. ask this to every guest, where do we go from here if the republicans have no interest in holding the person who incited those assassination attempts accountable? >> well, nicolle, perhaps i've become a bit more cynical since the last time you and i had this conversation a year ago, but i did just have an incidental consideration with a republican colleague, and his only comment to me was "i hope everyone in the country is seeing this." i thought that was an interesting comment. now i don't know what that means. he wasn't one of the six who voted yesterday, but perhaps it means that this is having an impact. the thing that came through to me, a couple of things today, nicolle, but one of the things was we had a really close call in two different ways. we had a close call personally. there is no question when you
see that crowd and the frenzy and the hysteria that they were in that -- well we know people were killed. a capitol policeman was killed. but if they had gotten ahold of any of the members, i don't think it would have mattered what party they were or who they were. that crowd was in a blood lust situation. so it was an incredibly close call in that sense. it could have been much, much worse in terms of loss of life. secondly, it was a really close call for our democracy. i've lost some sleep lately thinking about what if he hadn't had brad raffesberger, the young man out in michigan, mike pence, who were willing to stand up to enormous pressure and do the right thing, all republicans, all republican office holders. what if they hadn't been willing to do that? lord knows where we would be right now. so, you know, i'm really hoping that my colleagues are listening.
i'm not so sure. i look across and i see some of them who have never -- they look like they're reading a novel or something. i don't know. they aren't looking at the screen. i can tell you that. and that sort of disappointing. the president was aiming at the capitol, and this crowd in front of him was ready to go and as somebody said, he lit the match. and even beyond that, nicolle, undermining the confidence, and claire mccaskill said this, undermining the american people in their electoral system is a dagger in the heart of our democracy. if people can't trust elections, there is the nothing left of the democracy, and you only leave them violence. and that's why what happened on january 6th really wasn't surprising, because these people had been told over and over something valuable had been stolen from them. they couldn't trust the press. they couldn't trust the media. they couldn't trust the
politicians, they couldn't trust the judges. what's left? and what's left is what happened the afternoon of january 6th. >> senator, i'm dying to know who the one republican was who wasn't one of the six. you want the name names? >> i'm sure you are, nicolle, and your job is to ask that question, and my job is to keep a confidence. so not going to tell you. >> well, we've heard some reporting from our own garrett haake that one of the republican senators with his feet on the table flipping through reading material was josh hawley. did you notice others not looking up at the screen at the bravery, which i think was the point of those video, those pieces of evidence was to show how the police force that protects all of you was tortured, as you said in the instance of officer sicknick was murdered. all the body count footage from the officers shows -- i guess one officer described it for us as, quote, torture and beatings
that were described as medieval. why wouldn't they watch? >> i don't think they want to. i thought about that last night. you know, when the vote yesterday on the constitutionality went down as it did, pretty substantially, it really took the excuse away. and now these folks are faced with having to decide on the facts. they can't hide behind the constitutionality question. now they have to say yeah, it was okay. the president wasn't really responsible. when i was in law school, we used to use a test called the but for test. would something have happened but for? and the question you have to ask yourself, and i think it really boils this case down very simply, would any of this have happened but for donald trump's actions subsequent to the election? what if he had graciously conceded late in november, early december after the court case, would this have happened? and the answer is no.
and the other piece that struck me today, and i thought the managers were going to make a big point of it, and they really didn't. remember all those tweets about stop the steal, stop this, stop that, what that told me is this man knows how to use the word "stop." but when the riot took place, he didn't use that word. he didn't say "stop." it would have been very easy to say stop, stop. he said go home, but he also said you're wonderful, you're going to remember this day forever. but he had -- and i understand, i don't know where the case is going from here, but i understand later in the day he finally did say go home, and they went home. so he was the one person in the country that could have stopped what happened and he didn't do it for hours and hours. and the other thing that was in my mind as i was listening, what if this had been a group of russian paratroopers who landed on the capitol grounds and were
invading the capitol. would the president have sat in the white house for three or four hours and not done anything about it? i doubt it. >> well, you never know. right? >> well, okay. chinese paratroopers. >> my friend claire has a question for you. >> angus, i first of all, i got emotional watching you and all my friends run through the hallways in fear and it impacted me when i saw you being hustled down the stairs. and of course knowing where all those hallways are and knowing where you were really brought it home for me. i didn't realize until i saw this video really what kind of danger the capitol police were in on a sustained basis for hours on end. tell me what you all are doing in terms of shoring up their ability to protect the capitol. and i know we recognized the