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fani willis, again, opening an investigation, potential criminal investigation that could result in felony charges against the president as a private citizen -- the former president, president trump. just astonishing interview. anyway, see you again tomorrow night. "way too early with kasie hunt" is up next. the world watched president trump tell his big lie. the world watched his supporters come to washington at his invitation. and the world watched as he told his supporters to march here to the capitol. and president trump, our commander in chief at the time, failed to take any action to defend us, as he utterly failed in his duty to preserve, protect, and defend. and now, the world is watching
us, wondering whether our constitutional republic is going to respond the way it should, the way it's supposed to. >> part of the message from the house impeachment managers as they wrap their case for why donald trump should be convicted. today, attorneys for the former president will mount their defense. good morning and welcome to "way too early." i am kasie hunt on this friday, february 12th. we'll start with the news. house democrats rested their case against donald trump yesterday with the lead impeachment manager urging senators to exercise, quote, common sense, and warning of what could happen if trump is not convicted. >> if we don't draw the line here, what's next? what makes you think the nightmare with donald trump and his lawmaking and violent mobs is over? if we let him get away with it, and then it comes to your state
capitol or comes back here again, what are we going to say? >> you know, i'm not afraid of donald trump running again in four years. i'm afraid he's going to run again and lose, because he can do this again. >> and we know that that line right there from impeachment manager ted lieu actually did stick out to some republicans in the room. i'm interested to see if that still holds true through the day. he also challenged the notion that president trump made a mistake, and therefore, deserves a, quote/unquote, mulligan. watch. >> when you or i make a mistake and something very bad happens, we would show remorse. we would accept responsibility. president trump didn't do any of that. he was asked by a reporter, quote, what is your role in what happened at the capitol? what is your personal responsibility? and this was his response.
>> analyzed my speech and my words and my final paragraph, my final sentence, and everybody to the "t" thought it was totally appropriate. >> on january 12th, president trump had seen the violent attack on the capitol. he knew the people that died. and his message to all of us was that his conduct was totally appropriate. i'm a former prosecutor. and we're trained to recognize lack of remorse. but it doesn't take a prosecutor to understand that president trump was not showing remorse. he was showing defiance. he was telling us that he would do this again, that he could do this again. >> house impeachment manager congresswoman diana degette argued yesterday that the rioters who stormed the capitol last month were following president trump's orders and showed video evidence claiming
that they had been invited by trump. watch. >> their own statements before, during, and after the attack make clear, the attack was done for donald trump, at his instructions, and to fulfill his wishes. donald trump had sent them there. they truly believed that the whole intrusion was at the president's orders. as one man explained on a live stream he taped from inside the capitol, quote, our president wants us here. we wait and take orders from our president. >> does he not realize president trump called us to siege the place? >> let's call trump! yes! dude! dude, let's tell trump what's on -- >> trump would be very upset -- >> he'd be like, no, just say we love him! we love you, bro! no, he'll be happy! what do you mean? we're fighting for trump.
>> pretty stunning. meanwhile, the justice department says the leader of the oath keepers militia group was waiting for trump's orders about how to handle the results of the vote in the days that followed the election. citing court papers, "the new york times" reports that one leader of the group texted an associate on november 9th, quote, potus has the right to activate units, too. if trump asks me to come, i will. house impeachment managers also presented mounting evidence that president trump -- then president trump -- may have been personally informed that his vice president, mike pence, was in physical danger when trump attacked pence on twitter because he refused to meddle in the vote count. >> the vice president of the united states of america, his own vice president, was in this building with an armed mob
shouting, hang him, the same armed mob that set up gallows outside. you saw those pictures. and what did president trump do? he attacked him more. he singled him out by name. it's honestly hard to fathom. >> security footage presented at the trial on wednesday showed the heart-stopping moment when former vice president pence and his family were moved by security through the building and to a secure location. despite all of this, several republican senators seemed unmoved by the arguments made by house managers and suggesting their votes have already been decided. >> sir, are you keeping an open mind? >> i'm keeping an open mind. i have decided, though, that because of the circumstances
that impeachment is not the process that we need to be going through, and it seems that -- >> wait, so you've already made up your mind on how you'll vote? >> well, i voted that this was unconstitutional, and so, that makes it difficult to back up -- >> in other words, you've decided to vote no based on the constitutionality? >> yes. >> meanwhile, ted cruz says he believes house managers have not met their burden. senator james lankford said the dots are not connecting. now he said that specifically about yesterday. and senator josh hawley confirms, surprise, surprise, his mind has not been changed. joining us now, nbc news correspondent leigh ann caldwell. leigh ann, great to see you. thanks for being up with us. let's talk through where we think things stand with
republicans, because you and i were going back and forth last night about whether it is realistic to consider or to believe that, perhaps, there's a group of them who are willing to vote to convict president trump in a way that may surprise us. what do we know, and how do you think what we heard yesterday affected that calculus? >> so, kasie, there is a few groups of senators that i'm watching. one is, of course, the ones that you just mentioned who say that they've already had their minds made up. then the ones who voted that this was constitutional, the six republicans who said the trial within itself was constitutional. those are the most likely to vote to convict. but then there's this other group who have remained quite silent throughout this, not wanting to give their opinion, and they don't have a lot to lose, including some of the ones who have already announced that they're not running for re-election in 2022, like
senator shelby of alabama, who's in his 80s. this could be a very defining legacy vote for him. senator richard burr of north carolina, who was the former head of the intelligence committee during the russia 2016 investigation, so he also knows a lot more than the rest of the public doesn't. but going into this, i thought there would be two ways that this would go. either one or two republicans would vote to convict or 20-25 would. it would be the flood gates would open. i'm not so much in that mind-set anymore. i think that 17 is still going to be hard, but there could be around nine, ten, eleven, perhaps, and there's those groups of senators that i said are silent at this point that i am watching very closely. >> yeah. that number makes quite a bit of sense to me, too. quickly, leigh ann, what's at
stake for the trump legal team today? we know they're likely to wrap up their arguments in a day. >> they have a very difficult argument to make. they say they're only going to take three to four hours. they already argued for two hours on the first day on the constitutionality. we did hear the impeachment managers try to prebut some of what they were going to say, talking about the first amendment, talking about due process, even pointing to previous violence that they say that the president, the former president encouraged before january 6th, on the campaign and after that, 2016, 2017, 2018 and 2009. so it's going to be short. they don't have a lot to say, but senators say they'll be listening to see if they can be persuadable. >> all right. nbc's leigh ann caldwell, thank you so much for getting up early with us on this very long day. i really appreciate it and i'll
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welcome back. during the impeachment trial, both congressman david cicilline and joe neguse described how rioters who stormed the capitol threatened law enforcement with verbal harassment and physical altercations. >> these people matter. these people who risk their lives for us. so, i ask you, respectfully, to consider them, the police officers, the staff of this building, when you cast your vote. these people are in deep pain because they showed up here to serve, to serve the american people, to serve their
government, to serve all of us. and i ask each of you when you cast your vote to remember them and honor them and act in service of them, as they deserve. >> those officers serve us faithfully and dutifully, and they follow their oaths. they deserve a president who upholds his, who would not risk their lives and safety to retain power, a president who would preserve, protect, and defend them. >> "the new york times" writes that the capitol assault resulted in one of the worst days of injuries for law enforcement in the united states since the september 11th, 2001, terrorist attacks. at least 138 officers -- 73 from the capitol police and 65 from the metropolitan police department here in washington -- were injured, the departments have said. they ranged from bruises and lacerations to more serious damage, like concussions, rib
fractures, burns, and even a mild heart attack. capitol police officer eugene goodman, who saved the lives of countless lawmakers during the capitol siege, will be honored with the congressional gold medal. he and several other officers will receive the highest civilian honor that congress can bestow for their bravery on january 6th. this week, impeachment managers revealed this video showing goodman directing senator mitt romney to safety during the riot. time now for the weather. let's go to meteorologist bill karins for a check on your forecast. bill, good morning. happy friday. >> hey, happy friday, kasie. and people aren't happy about the weather across the country at all. i mean, the crippling ice storm. we still have over 100,000 people without power. some of the worst of it has been in areas of kentucky, also in arkansas, portions of west virginia, too. and it's not going to melt. it's still freezing cold in these areas, and we've had about a quarter inch to a half inch of ice, and that's been enough to bring down trees and tree limbs
in numerous areas, especially there, as i mentioned, the hard-hit areas of kentucky and west virginia. and it was just like on-and-off periods of freezing showers and drizzle. and after a while, it just begins to add up and causes the problems. if you saw that horrific car accident around the ft. worth area, six people died on the icy roads there, so, yeah, tragic stuff. so, let's get into the weekend forecast. that storm is ending. we don't have a lot of wet weather left, just a little bit of freezing drizzle and snow in areas of southern virginia, especially around the roanoke rapids area, back up towards richmond. and as we go towards the weekend, what a map. 60 million people are impacted by winter weather headlines, either alerts or warnings or watches. and look at texas. dallas, even as far south as austin is under a winter weather advisory. here's the snow forecast over the next three days. and you know, we get the snow in the great lakes. occasionally, we'll get the snow in the northwest. but look at texas and oklahoma and arkansas. possibility of 3 to 6 inches of snow. temperatures are going to be in
the single digits come monday morning. and areas to the south of that, we have to deal with another ice storm. i mean, this could be a significant ice storm between dallas and waco and areas up there towards little rock. so, for today's forecast, look how cold it is in the middle of the country. temperature for a high will be negative 3 in minneapolis today, and that cold air is heading south. and as we head through the weekend forecast, we'll watch the snowstorm that is today and tonight in areas of the northwest, spreading to the rockies. and then look at the map as we go into sunday. it's not often we put heavy snow in the forecast in oklahoma and north texas, kasie, but that's what's going to happen. and that storm, by the way, by the time we get to tuesday, will be in the northeast, and it looks like it could be a high-impact snow and ice event for that. so, we'll deal with that next week, but for our friends in texas and oklahoma, we wish you the best. it's going to be a rough couple days. >> one thing at a time. and yes, we are thinking of all of those folks. we'll have more about that coming up later on in the show. bill karins, thank you so much,
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♪♪ welcome back to "way too early." it is 5:30 here on the east coast, 2:30 out west. i'm kasie hunt. we're going to start this half hour with the latest from the trump impeachment trial. as democrats wrapped their case yesterday, impeachment manager joaquin castro warned senators that the world is watching to see what america is going to do. >> think of the consequences to our diplomats and negotiators as they sit at tables around the world to enforce our agenda on trade, the economy, and human rights. to fail to convict a president of the united states who incited a deadly insurrection, who acted in concert with a violent mob, who interfered with the certification of the electoral college votes, who abdicated his
duty as commander in chief, would be to forfeit the power of our example as a north star on freedom, democracy, human rights, and, most of all, on the rule of law. >> and donald trump's legal team is expected to lay out their defense today. and while democrats used more than nine of the allotted 16 hours that they had over the course of two days, the former president's team expects to use far less time. >> how many hours do you plan to use tomorrow? >> maybe three or four hours, something like that. >> why do you think that this could be all over? when do you think that -- >> you know, they were shooting for tuesday night, but i think now it's moving much more quickly, so i think that -- i would think it could be over saturday. >> much more accelerated timeline than we may have initially expected. the fulton county district attorney's office, meanwhile, is investigating former president trump's attempt to overturn the
state's election results. d.a. fani willis sent a letter wednesday to state government officials, asking that their offices preserve documents related to the phone call in which the then-outgoing president pressed secretary of state brad raffensperger to find the exact number of votes needed to overturn his loss in the state. willis told our colleague, rachel maddow, last night that the probe will likely extend beyond that call. >> what i know about investigations is they're kind of like peeling back an onion. and as you go through each layer, you learn different things. to be a responsible prosecutor, you must look at all of those things in an investigation, to be fair to everyone involved. this is a very important matter, as you've already highlighted. and so, yes, the investigation seems that it will go past just this one phone call that we've discussed. >> and joining us now from west palm beach, florida, nbc news political reporter monica alba. and monica, i apologize. your title is white house
correspondent. we really appreciate you being up early with us for this. the defense starts today for president trump. and quite frankly, his lawyers didn't acquit themselves terribly well during the week, and that's -- i'm quoting republicans in saying that. what are you hearing about the president's mind-set and what we expect to see today? >> reporter: and it was donald trump, himself, kasie, according to our reporting, who was most upset with that first showing from bruce castor and david schoen, that meandering, at times, completely off-the-cuff response to even what his own attorneys called a very strong and impressive case from the house impeachment managers. so, we know that behind the scenes, the former president has been in touch with his lawyers, urging them to essentially get it together for today. and i can tell you, kasie, according to my reporting, that as of even late last night, they did not have the specific order of speakers nailed down or exactly which themes they want to hit first and in what order,
either. so, they were still trying to redefine how they wanted to approach this, despite a public posture that they weren't going to change anything about their strategy, that they were very happy with how the first day went. we know that that's not true from our own reporting and sources close to the legal strategy. but today, they are going to rely on some video of their own and democrats' own words. they're going to try to make the case that some, what they will argue, incendiary language from democrats last summer, amid the social unrest following the death of george floyd, that that could be similar. of course, we know the contexts are completely different for that compared to what we saw on january 6th. but yes, possibly, most notably, they plan to wrap up by 3:00 or 4:00 p.m., also in observance of the sabbath, and they expect that could set up a vote for this weekend, kasie. >> monica, forgive me if i'm putting you on the spot, but
what are you hearing about how many republicans the trump team expects may vote to convict? we've just been hearing and picking up an underlying reality that, perhaps, there could be more than we might have assumed. what is the trump team thinking about that? >> reporter: look, they had this lengthy meeting with som of these exact senators yesterday at the capitol. this is something that also happened during the former president's first impeachment trial. you had the defense team meeting with republican senators, who, of course, have to decide whether to convict or acquit. but this time around, it does take on a little bit of a new meaning, given, again, these are senators who were the target of much of the violence on january 6th and the riot at the capitol. but we also know that it's the former president, himself, who's in touch with some of these senators, in particular, the ones that he had a close, personal relationship with, such as senator lindsey graham, who we've heard talk about his many conversations over the last couple of weeks since leaving office with donald trump.
so at this point, i can tell you that the trump legal team is very confident that the numbers do not add up to 17. the ones who already voted to say that they had questions about the constitutionality of the process, that smaller five to six numbers, they thought those people would already vote to convict, so they weren't as worried about them. it's these other outstanding ones that could add up to a higher number, but we already know the former president is happy to launch a primary challenge or really campaign for any opponents who run against any of these republicans who may ultimately vote to convict him. that's something that he has his eyes laser focused on ahead of 2022, kasie. >> all right. nbc news white house correspondent monica alba, thank you very much for being up early with us to share this reporting ahead of an important day. and now there's this. when then president donald trump was diagnosed with covid-19 back in october, he was far sicker than publicly acknowledged at the time. sources familiar with the matter tell "the new york times." trump had, quote, extremely depressed blood oxygen levels at
one point and a lung problem associated with pneumonia caused by the coronavirus and, quote, his prognosis became so worrisome before taken to walter reed military medical center that officials believed he would need to be put on a ventilator, according to people familiar with his situation. at the time, the white house painted a very different and vague picture of the president's health. >> he has not received any supplemental oxygen? >> he is not on oxygen right now, that's right. >> he hasn't received any at all? >> he's not needed any this morning, today, at all. that's right. >> has he ever been on supplemental oxygen? >> he -- right now he is not on -- >> i know you keep saying right now, but should we read into the fact that he had been previously? >> yesterday and today he was not on oxygen. >> so, he has not been on it during his covid treatment? >> he is not on oxygen right now. >> it was pretty obvious then that they were obfuscating. the "times" now reports, quote,
trump's blood oxygen level alone was cause for extreme concern, dipping into the 80s, according to people familiar with his evaluation. covid-19 is considered to be severe when blood oxygen levels hit below 90s. you could face brain damage, much lower than that. his prognosis became so worrisome before being taken to walter reed medical center that officials believed he would need to be put on a ventilator, two of the people familiar with his condition said. trump initially resisted his aides' pleas to be hospitalized but finally agreed to go when staff said he could now go under his own power or later be carried out by the secret service, if he became too sick to walk. and dr. vin gupta has pointed out on twitter that based on his course of treatment at the time, we knew that it was much, much worse than his doctors ever were willing to admit in public. all right, still ahead here, politico's sam stein joins us with his take on the impeachment
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to the courts for holding associated newspapers and "the mail on sunday" to account for their illegal and dehumanizing practices. for those outlets, it's a game. for me and so many others, it's real life, real relationships and very real sadness. the damage they have done and continue to do runs deep. all right, when then senator kamala harris was chosen as joe biden's running mate, the people that decided that "saturday night live" alum maya rudolph would be the perfect person to play her. in a new interview with "entertainment weekly," rudolph and "snl" executive producer lorne michaels discussed how memes guided the decision to cast the role. rudolph said she was flattered, but not surprised, because, quote, i smelled it coming. rudolph is signing up for four or more years of bi-coastal living, but it's worth it, because as she says, i think knowing that there was a candidate that i resembled so much was cool in and of itself, and then icing on the cake is
just simply getting to do it on the show, a place i feel so at home of and that i love, but it's also just the charge of this time and being able to have any sort of voice in the story. i am looking forward to seeing her on "snl" for the next four years. all right, still ahead here, democrats used the words of republicans to try and help make the case against donald trump. we're going to play that for you straight ahead. d trump. we're going to play that for you straight ahead ♪“you're the best” by joe esposito♪ ♪ [triumphantly yells] [ding] don't get mad. get e*trade. for decades, most bladder leak pads were similar. until always discreet changed that. by inventing a pad you never thought possible. it's incredibly thin. because it protects differently. with two rapiddry layers that overlap, where you need it most. for strong protection, that's always discreet. it's time to question your protection.
house impeachment manager ted lieu argued that donald trump showed no remorse for his actions, and it was untrue that everyone thought his actions were appropriate, and he used the words of republican governors to prove his point. >> people in his own party -- state officials, former officials, current officials, members of congress -- have unambiguously and passionately said that what donald trump did was, quote, disgraceful,
shameful, and they had called his behavior existential and wrong. and they said that his actions gave rise to one of the darkest chapters in united states history. >> and joining us now, white house editor for "politico," sam stein. sam, good morning! it's always great to see you. >> good morning. >> let's talk a little bit about what we have and haven't learned about what the president was doing on that day, now that the prosecution has essentially rested their opening arguments. they're going to have another opportunity to talk to us a little bit later on, but we don't necessarily have as many details as i know you think that we might have, had they focused more on this. what is your take here? >> yeah. well, i mean, look, the trial has illuminated in incredible detail what happened at the capitol, really harrowing detail, if you think about it, from the video presentations that the impeachment managers presented. the missing component has been
what was going on, on the other side of pennsylvania avenue. what was trump up to in the minute-by-minute of that day? the most we have gotten from this trial, the most new information, i should say, has been this sort of bizarre phone call that was made to mike lee that ended up being for tommy tuberville. and the contents of that and the timing of that, we now know, came right around when mike pence was leaving the chamber and trump was tweeting, but that's about it, that we know, from new information from the white house. and i think it's just a tremendous, not missed opportunity, but from a historical standpoint, you would want to know what was happening. you can make the case that from a standpoint of trying to reach the president and convict him, you would want to know what's happening, and yet, that seems to be a black box, part of it because we just don't have any witnesses, and no witnesses have been called to testify of the minute-by-minute account that was happening at the white house. and from all accounts, we're not going to get that from the trump side, either. so, it's going to be one of these things that we just end
this trial without having any more clarity about. >> sam, do you think that that essentially underscores that the president is guilty of what they're saying he's guilty of? i mean, if he wasn't,wasn't, co defense be a point-by-point reading, accounting of what the president was doing? >> this is not a court of law, obviously. and the absence of something does not mean guilty is implied. you would think, from a logical standpoint, if you are a defense attorney and you have exculpatory evidence about, pressing alarm, trying to tamp things down, questioning how this could happen, you would present that in the course of your defense. if it doesn't exist, it doesn't exist. the other flip side of that is, you know, it could potentially be even more damaging. we don't know what the president
was doing. perhaps he was monitoring it, lauding it. perhaps there were conversations that would help the impeachment manager's case. there are a lot of questions with respect to the trial. this is a huge historical moment for our country. and i think there is an imperative to know exactly how it went down point by point. this is not just calling witnesses. it would be logical in some respects for former white house aids to feel a compulsion to come forward and testify about this. we still don't have any account, and we will leave it to congressional or investigative bodies to have to fill in the blanks now. >> yeah. or maybe bob woodward, when his next book comes out about all of this. sam, on the history point, what's your sense of how history
is weighing on some of these senators. i was watching them almost physically divide themselves in half in terms of where the party is divided. senator cruz, graham on one side. mitch mcconnell and a series of more moderate or at least more anti-trump senators in another area of the chamber. and i'm just starting to get the sense that the historical nature of this is weighing on moreirense than we may have thought. >> there is a portion of the republican party we don't know how they will vote, who still feel like this moment has much deeper ramifications than any particular vote. that you are essentially deciding, you know, what is the future for u.s. reputation abroad for our democratic system of governance. can you count on some act like
this. and a group of senators who say this is all absurd theater. if you look at the chamber, reactions, if you just watch how they have taken in the video, that the gravity of the moment has hit people. i don't know if it is going to affect the outcome. in fact, i doubt it, which something something about the current political incentives we are dealing with. it is hard to sit through and say, oh, this was an isolated incident. or this has no ramifications beyond donald trump's presidency. it's evident in the presentation that it does. >> and senator mike rounds afterward also said that line about the fact that president trump could run again and lose and something like this could happen again actually did resonate across the aisle, which was a surprising comment for me. political sam stein, thank you for being up early with us. we really appreciate you being here. and earlier on in the show we asked, why are you awake? jay scott tweeted this photo
posting up early for my dad. he's 78 with alzheimer's and is getting his first covid vaccine shot this morning. he and baby yoda watching "way too early" and waiting on breakfast. so glad to hear he's getting the vaccine. we love yoda content around here. and matthew said i sneezed myself awake. sorry about that. and julia tweeted, i'm up "way too early" making valentine's gifts for my students for our party today. yay. love that. and this photo of playful cat scout up early this morning. hello, scout. thank you all for watching. coming up next on "morning joe", one of the jurors in the trump impeachment trial, majority whip dick durbin will be our guest.
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welcome back. a little bit earlier in the show bill karins mentioned the tragic scene in north texas yesterday. icy road conditions led to a deadly follow-up involving 100 vehicles. the warning you are about to see is pretty tough to watch. here's nbc's morgan chess sky. >> reporter: cars flying. the crunch sickening. the chain reaction smashing more than 130 vehicles, sending 65 people in the hospital and leaving six others dead. by the time first responders arrived, that debris field stretched for a mile down the interstate. the view from above chilling. semi truck after semi truck scattered and in pieces on the highway. some cars crushed beneath, the victims still inside. one of those caught, blake
deibel, whose parents stood in the cold searching for their son. after hours of waiting, their son somehow able to walk away but still visibly shocked. >> skid for about 100 feet or so. and hit the wall. and a few semis came through and plowed through a lot of people. >> reporter: tonight, heartbreak spared for some. >> our thanks to nbc's morgan chesky for that. as we wrap up a very long and incredibly historically significant week here in washington, when we see each other again on monday, it's likely we'll know whether republicans have voted to say that what happened on january 6th was the responsibility of the former president and whether they were willing to hold him accountable or not. it is the time for choosing. after charlottesville, after
everything that republicans were willing to essentially at least look past, they have to give a final answer this weekend. are they going to choose a different kind of america or stick with what former president trump has left us with. thank you so much for getting up "way too early" with us on this friday morning. don't go anywhere. "morning joe" starts right now. >> he has done it before. he will do it again. what are the odds if left in office that he will continue trying to cheat. i will tell you 100%. not 5%, not 10% or even 50%, but 100%. if you have found him guilty and you do not remove him from office, he will continue trying to cheat in the election until he succeeds. then what shall