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more questions than we got answers. >> right. the chief and the former sergeant at arms of the house disagree on when they got the calls. and then of course they all agree that the government was very sluggish in responding. >> that's for sure. a lot more to unpack. but i don't have a lot more time, pete williams, thank you. stand by. my friend on the other side would like to talk with you because msnbc's coverage continues right now with my friend katy tur. it's all yours, kate. >> we got a lot of time to unpack. it is 11:00 a.m. out west and 2:00 p.m. in washington where there is high drama as congress tries to fill in the gaps of how in the world rioters were able to overrun the capitol on january 6th. >> of the multitude of events i've worked in my nearly 19-year career in the department, this was by far the worst of the
worst. we could have had ten times the amount of people working with us. >> captain carnesha mendoza shared her own account for that day. and we're hearing from current and former security officials who were in charge that day blaming bad intelligence, blaming other federal agencies and blaming each other. three of the four officials testifying forced out after those epic failures. >> based on the intelligence, we all believed that the plan met the threat and that we were prepared. we now know that we had the wrong plan. >> the fbi's norfolk field office issued a threat report on january 5th that detailed specific calls for violence online in connection with january 6th including that protesters, quote, be ready to fight, end quote and, quote, be ready to go to war. >> i in the last 24 hours was
informed by the department that they actually had received that report. >> it does not get to operational commanders who are there to deal with it. how can that happen? >> a lot is still unclear, but what is becoming clear today is the events before january 6th, and on that day were a chaotic mess of conflicting orders and conflicting timelines about exactly what happened. phone calls, text messages, and urgent requests for help between the former capitol police chief and the former house sergeant at arms. >> chief sund was pleading for the deployment of the national guard. in response to that, there was not an immediate yes, the national guard is responding, yes, the national guard is on the way. i was just stunned that, you know, i have officers that were out there literally fighting for their lives, and we're kind of going through what seemed like an exercise to really check the
boxes. >> mr. sund, do you know when you asked for national guard assistance? was it 1:09 or was it 2:00 p.m.? >> it was 1:09, sir. >> senator, i have no recollection of a conversation with chief sund at that time. >> it took hours to get that response. also, a disagreement over whether the pentagon held off on deploying the national guard for fear of optics of armed troops at the capitol. it was a delay that lasted, as i said, for hours as capitol and d.c. police officers waged a battle of hand-to-hand combat, beaten and pummelled by insurrectionists. the finger-pointing conflicting accounts, and blame game today were enough to make your head spin. the one big thing they did agree on today, the attack was planned, it was coordinated, and it was unlike anything they had ever seen before. >> the events i witnessed on january 6th was the worst attack on law enforcement in our
democracy that i've seen in my entire career. these criminals came prepared for war. >> joining me now is msnbc news capitol hill correspondent garrett haake. and former fbi special agent clint watts. i do want to start with you on this. this was a four-hour hearing. there was a lot there. and some of it was conflicting. but what stood out to you? >> i think, katy, one of the most dramatic moments is realizing after we had been working on this kind of tick tock since january 6th since the night of january 6th, the most dramatic thing that i learned was that the sergeant at arms, the police chief's boss doesn't remember getting a call for emergency help. remember, chief sund, capitol police chief, said that at 1:09, he realized his first perimeter
had been breached. and he reached out to his boss now again for a second time to say, i need an emergency declaration, i need to bring in the national guard. and that sergeant in arms today paul irving, a former secret service top official, says he has no recollection of that call. and interestingly i think lawmakers started to probe very deeply into that, how could you not remember such a call? i think chief sund has evidence that he made that call. also interesting, lawmakers flag, was it possible that you were so overwhelmed, mr. irving, with taking care of protecting lawmakers, this was a chaotic time, and you just didn't remember this moment? >> that is a really good point. and the chaos of that day kept coming up over and over again. so, garrett, i'm curious, what happens next with congress? they agree that the response was a failure. they agree that the intelligence was a failure. what do they do with this information?
>> well, there's a couple of pieces to that puzzle. we're going to have another hearing of these same two committees next week where we'll learn probably more about the intelligence part of this and the national guard response. that hearing will include representatives from the fbi, dhs, and the pentagon. so it might help us put that missing piece in place. we're also still waiting on this report from lieutenant general russell honare. that's going to deal more specifically with security around the capitol complex itself. but i think if there is one thing we learned from this hearing today in terms of a kind of an immediate response here was the failure of imagination amongst the capitol hill leaders to plan for this kind of attack. you had several different senators including jon ossoff there at the end questioning about why wasn't this sort of thing drilled, why wasn't this practiced for, why wasn't this the kind of thing you even considered to be possible. earlier senator lankford quoted from, he said a capitol police officer, whom he had spoken to,
said once these folk were inside the building in large numbers, all the training we have doesn't go that far. it doesn't deal to do with large groups inside the capitol kind of in this massive spread-out way. those are the kind of issues that the capitol police under their new leadership are going to have to address i would think fairly quickly. it would be interesting to hear from the current acting capitol police chief. this was mostly former officials today. and none of them have been very forthcoming about the training and sort of tactical issues they say for a security basis. but there's going to be a lot more questions i think need to be delved into on those kind of tactical deployment issues, too. >> clint, on the failure of imagination, as garrett was just saying, on the intelligence aspect of this. i'm just struggling to understand what the disconnect is. because we have been talking about this on air. there have been reporting done about the chatter online about people feeling like the election was stolen from them.
the president called them there on january 6th. he said the day was going to be wild. what do you make of the intelligence failure here, the lack of foresight that this could end up the way it did? >> katy, i just don't buy it it. >> you and i talked about this for weeks in the leadup to the election. i think the only surprise was that something like this didn't happen before january 6th. anybody that was watching what was openly available saw that this was going to be a huge event. we saw discussions of them talking about how to get weapons into the capitol, where to mobilize to. and the big thing that consistently keeps happening is now you have these more local police, the d.c. police, the capitol police pointing fingers at the feds. i'm sure the feds are going to come in and say we did provide some sort of intelligence. but what would happen if the feds had gone and done a robust intelligence operation on these people who are president trump supporters? this would turn into a political nightmare it.
>> would be the fbi investigating president trump again. that would be the story that we would hear. so the big thing that really just plays over all of this is you've got law enforcement pointing fingers at each other. the president was out in the lawn. he told them to walk to the capitol. it was his supporters that were egging them and organizing this event. it was people he had just pardoned that were out there stoking this anger and pushing people to go towards the capitol. so i think to this day many of the law enforcement were surprised that people were actually trying to breach the capitol. and those that were stoking it were the president and his supporters. >> we did this story on this broadcast when the president was saying the only way that he could lose the election was if it was rigged. we spoke to people about what they would do. they all said one of two things, that a law enforcement would take care of it, i.e., thinking that something would happen with some sort of rising up with the pentagon or with police officers. and then, secondly, that they were willing to do whatever it
took to make sure that the election was taken back. so it was out there. clint, is this also though -- and this is what a number of the witnesses said today. is this also a failure of our intelligence community in assessing the threat of domestic terrorism? >> it is, katy, in the sense that they don't have a structured way to do it. if this is al qaeda or isis, it's a nationally directed case by the fbi, it is a known and designated threat with the department of homeland security. the state department is out there picking those foreign terrorists and designating that all of this apparatus from the national counterterrorism center. it moves and falls into place. when it becomes domestic terrorists and you can't put a name on it, it's just random person or group of people. it becomes very difficult to organize how you collect, how you organize your information, and how you assess threats. if you cannot assess a threat beyond one person here or there, it becomes very difficult to
anticipate, to provide intelligence, and prep for this. katy, just like you said, you and i talked about this. the second issue that's going to come up is why didn't the national guard mobilize quicker? well, if you were watching in the intelligence space of this conspiracy that was going on, there was a belief that the military would show up at the capitol to help president trump make sure that he remained in power. i'm sure that was part of the decisionmaking question about optics that senator cruz kept bringing up was do we want to get involved in this again after we just saw what happened with the george floyd protest. across the board they're letting politicians off the hook and pointing fingers at law enforcement and military. >> so, on the subject of the military and the pentagon, the finger-pointing that went there today, carol, we're going to hear from pentagon officials next week. we don't know who yet. what are they likely to be asked, and what are they likely to say? >> that's a really important area as well. they're going to be grilled
about one particular moment, which is roughly around 2:20 when chief sund called, along with metropolitan police department chief and the mayor of the district of columbia, called over to the pentagon asking and pleading for the national guard. that call was not properly described to reporters when they asked what had happened. in fact, one thing that concealed and repeatedly we were misled about it. and there was that michael flynn's brother was on that call in which the chief of police and the chief of the capitol police were told, we're not so sure we like the optics, we're not so sure we like the visuals of sending the national guard over there. those lieutenant generals including charles flynn and lieutenant general piat also told the two chiefs that they were concerned about whether there was a real plan to send their national guard people over. do you have something for our guys to do? keep in mind, katy, we have now
at this moment at 2:20 the capitol has been breached, the vice president has been evacuated from the senate chamber. people are storming up from the first floor to the second floor landing. and the lieutenant generals over at the pentagon are questioning both the optics and the appropriateness of the planning of how their people will be deployed. that was viewed by both of these chiefs as so shocking. chief conte apparently told someone next to him, the guy is basically begging for help, and the pentagon said no thanks, not right now. we were really struck by this as reporters because, again, lieutenant general charles flynn was on this call. he is brother to michael flynn. as clint pointed out, michael flynn was helping stoke this riot, this insurrection, this attempt to stop the election.
>> that is going to be a really interesting hearing with those questions in particular. a lot of answers that everybody should know. carol, thank you, clint, and garrett, we appreciate it it. >> and joining me now is democratic congressman ted lieu of california. he served as a house impeachment manager during donald trump's second trial. congressman, thank you very much for being with us today. after watching that hearing, what do you want to see happen? >> we have -- lieutenant honare was also doing an investigation for the house of representatives. i thought that this hearing illuminated the chaos that happened that day. we do all sorts of exercises and i can tell you during these exercises, there was always chaos. but this is an actual event happening. and i can see why you might have timelines that didn't match up. but at the end of the day there's one person who could have sent in the national guard.
-- he simply was not interested in doing that. >> how are you going to get answers to that question of what the president was doing, how long it took him to do it? how do you find out that information? are you going to get it from pentagon officials next week? >> so hopefully people who are of good conscience will step forward and tell us what they know. at the end of the day we can also issue congressional subpoenas. what we realized over the last four years is they're essentially meaningless because we cannot enforce them. that's why i have a bill that would impose monetary fines using congress' inherent contempt power for people who ignore congressional subpoenas. but if we want to get the actual facts of what happened and we need people who were there next to the president come and tell us what they know. >> d.c. statehood came up a number of times with the argument that if d.c. were a state, then muriel bowser might
have more power in that position or somebody above her, would be able to call on the national guard more immediately. what do you make of that argument? are you in support of it? >> i fully support d.c. statehood. the other is simply equal protection for all. you shouldn't be having people who have taxation without representation. so, i absolutely support d.c. statehood. and i think we should take a step back and ask why were all these folks attacking the capitol to begin with? it was because of the big lie. they believe that the election was stolen, which is false. and if republicans want to reduce the risk of further political violence, they just have to say one simple truthful sentence, the election was not stolen. >> congressman ted lieu, thank you very much for joining us. we do appreciate it. and still ahead, a live report from texas where the storm may be over, but people are still waiting in long lines for food and water.
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for five weeks, president biden's nominees for cabinet seats have gotten one green light after another. low-key grillings, fast high-fives that appear, though, to be ending today. >> i'm not sold yet. i'm not sure that you have the necessary experience or skills to do this job at this moment. i'm not sure that you have the appropriate respect for the private sector and innovation and intellectual property needed to bring more exciting treatments and cures to save lives in this country. >> this morning xavier becerra came under fire at round one of his senate confirmation hearings. another ground-breaking nominee congresswoman deb holland is proving to not be a sure bet at all for biden. and opposition continues to mount against neera tanden whose
confirmation prospects are on thin ice. joining me now is punch bowl news founder anna palmer and "washington post" senior washington correspondent phil rucker. both of you, thank you so much. let's start with xavier becerra. that was quite a lackluster endorsement, not an endorsement at all frankly from senator burr from north carolina, in talking about xavier becerra today. there's a lot of pushback to him. anna, talk to me about why republicans feel like, some republicans feel like he is not right for the job, and yet democrats feel like he is. >> i think democrats have actually been caught off guard here about how much iron xavier becerra has gotten and how little support not only -- i think democrats are behind, but even some of them are a little concerned about the fact that he doesn't have a medical
background. he's been the state attorney general for california, really the tip of the spear going after industry which he would have to work with in this position. so, i think democrats have been trying to figure out what's the best way forward with him. you saw him kind of taking that heat from senator burr. it's going to be interesting to see if he can convince them that he is the guy for the job clearly with covid-19 vaccine, all of this rollout, it's going to be such a key role that they are taking this very, very seriously. >> mitch mcconnell called him radical, underqualified, and underqualified. phil, what about neera tanden? a lot of senators resurfacing the tweets that she had sent out over the fast few years, some of them targeting individual senators who are in those confirmation hearings. what we don't know, and this is from romney, the west virginia senator manchin and others, is that we didn't hear the same sort of pushback to rick
grinnell when he was confirmed as an ambassador. he went after people on twitter. he just didn't go after people that were lawmakers in the senate. >> yeah, katy, neera tanden is no stranger to the members of the senate. she's been a political fixture in washington for a decade now running one of the leading liberal thinktanks here. she's been a partisan figure in the campaign for hillary clinton and other efforts. and she's gotten under the skin of a lot of republican senators with the tone and partisan rhetoric in her messages on social media. but it's important to keep in mind it's not only republicans who are opposing her. you mentioned senator joe manchin, the democrat from west virginia. he said he's a no vote. and in a 50/50 senate, you simply can't get to 50 if you don't have all the democrats on board.
>> there's an argument out there, phil, that this has a level of sexism to do with it, that tanden is facing opposition because she's a woman in a way that a man wouldn't face opposition. and rick grinnell does fall into that argument. >> that's exactly right. and, look, these are republicans who for four years have defended president trump. and he's known to send a nasty tweet here or there. in fact, he did it at all times of the day almost every day of the week for four years straight. so there's also a level of hypocrisy here in how you're judging these public officials in the language they use on social media. but, nonetheless, the math is the math, and it looks very difficult right now to see how her nomination's going to make it through. >> senator schumer, the majority leader, has just said that republicans a moment ago are being hypocritical in their opposition and their anger towards neera tanden.
anna, what about deb holland who is up for interior secretary. why is there so much opposition to her? >> she would certainly be a record-breaking nominee cabinet secretary in the fact that she'd be the first native american woman to be in the cabinet. she's having a lot of issues in terms of where she is on issues like the keystone pipeline and other environmental regulations where they're really out of step for where republicans are. the question's going to be can she amass all 50 votes in the senate in terms of the democrats? where does joe manchin going to end up with deb haaland and some of these other democrats who maybe aren't in the same position as she is, where she's in energy and climate change. that's going to be something we're going to be watching very closely. >> anna palmer, phil rucker, thank you very much. and according to senator ted cruz, people are obsessed over his trip to cancun. and he's got a theory why.
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503,009. already more than 3,000 more americans have died of covid-19 since the u.s. crossed a half a million deaths yesterday. less than a day after president biden delivered a eulogy for the half a million moms and dads and sons and daughters and brothers and sisters and grandparents and friends and co-workers that have been so cruelly taken from us in the year since the virus swept onto our shores. creating vaccines so fast is a miracle of modern science. but it is too late for all of those that are still hurting. still, amid that sea of grief are light lights that are on the horizon. new daily cases and the daily death toll still horrifyingly high are decreasing. vaccine distribution is increasing. and more vaccines are on the verge of being approved. in fact, as bumpy and as
frustrating as it has been, america's vaccine rollout has been among the best in the world. as "axios" notes, the u.s. has carried out more vaccinations than any other country in the world, and given a first dose to a higher percentage of its population than any but five countries. as more americans get those shots, dr. anthony fauci today said an answer is coming for the question that so many people have been asking. >> i believe you're going to be hearing more of the recommendations of how you can relax the stringency of some of the things particularly when you're dealing with something like your own personal family when people have been vaccinated. i believe that that forthcoming pretty soon. >> and -- but it is ultimately a race against time to get as many americans vaccinated as possible before those new and more dangerous strains of the virus become dominant. joining me now is nbc news white
house correspondent carol lee. carol, during the white house briefing today, we did get an update on vaccines and some more doses that are available. walk us through it. >> yeah, katy, look, this has been top priority for the biden administration. and officials point to several ways in which they're trying to get more vaccinations into the arms of more americans. they're purchasing more vaccines, they're standing up these mass federal vaccination sites. they've tried to communicate better with states so they can plan for how many doses of a vaccine they might have within a certain span of a number of weeks. and today, as you referenced, white house press secretary jen psaki said that -- noted that there is another increase in the amount of vaccines, and just to put it into the broader context of a nearly 70% increase in the weekly number of vaccine doses that are out there, saying it had gone up nearly 70%. take a listen. >> today on his weekly
governor's call with america's governors, our covid coordinator jeff zients announced the fifth consecutive week of supply increases. states will now receive 14.5 million doses this week, up from 8.6 million doses per week when the president took office. that's an increase on vaccine allocations of nearly 70% during the biden/harris administration. >> so there you hear they're confident that this is trending in the right direction, katy. but that hope that you referenced is really dependent on whether they can keep this up, whether that supply can continue to steadily increase, and whether they can get vaccinations into more and more americans. and as president biden has said, ideally we would be looking at next christmas where things seem to be a little bit closer back to normal where it's the holidays that we remember prior to 2020 as opposed to those all americans really experienced last year.
>> i know everyone is dying to be with family again. carol lee, thank you so much. with me now is dr. mark sawyer. he's a pediatric infectious disease specialist at the university of california san diego. he's also a member of the fda's vaccines and related biological products advisory committee. doctor, thank you very much for joining us. so, with this new vaccine that's now going to be rolled out that's been bought by the united states, how soon does that mean that people's timelines for getting vaccines can be moved up? can you make an assessment on that? >> yeah. i'm really encouraged by the news today about the ramp-up that the companies think they're able to undertake to get us more vaccine. everyone knows that we've been frustrated by the inability to get everybody vaccinated that we like. but it sounds like we're over that hump. and that's going to allow many, many people to get immunized including teachers which will help us get our kids back to
school. >> we are still waiting for the j&j vaccine. we're still waiting for the astrazeneca vaccine. j&j submitted for emergency use authorization. and when it came to pfizer and moderna, it seemed like after that submission, it moved a little faster than it's moved now for j&j. any idea why this is taking a little longer? or, in my mind, is it just taking longer and it's not actually taking any longer? >> yeah. to me it seems pretty similar to the previous process. the fda committee is meeting this friday to review the j&j vaccine. the advisory group is meeting on monday. so it's moving along very quickly. and based on what i've heard so far, i anticipate we're likely to have that vaccine available within a matter of weeks. >> astrazeneca is something that has already been approved in a
number of other developed nations including a number of our close allies with similar medical services that we have and assessments. why can it get approved for the e.u.? why can it get approved for the uk, south africa? and why is it so much harder to get approved here? >> the fda had very specific criteria that it gave to the companies about what it would take for approval in the united states. the fda's job is to make sure the vaccine is safe and effective in the u.s. population. so there was a minimum number of people who had to be enrolled, and they had to be in serve for a specific amount of time. that's what has slowed down the process some. but, on the other hand, it's really amazing that we have all of these vaccines available within a year of the identification of this pandemic. >> it is truly incredible. there's also advice for those who have already gotten the vaccine to continue wearing their masks.
at what point will we know that once you get the vaccine, you can't spread it to anybody else? >> i think we're going to learn that very soon. and as dr. fauci mentioned just a few minutes ago on your program, we are expecting updated guidance from cdc about what fully vaccinated people can do that's different from what we have been doing. and i think we're going to be able to relax the restrictions some but not all the way. and in the meantime, i want to make sure we send the message that if you haven't yet been vaccinated, you need to keep doing everything we've been doing, wearing a mask, socially distancing. otherwise we may see another rebound in case. >> dr. mark sawyer of the uc system, thank you very much for joining us. we appreciate it. >> thank you. we've got some more break news also out of california. this one on golf star tiger woods. the los angeles county sheriff's office says that tiger woods has been injured in a rollover car
accident. police say woods was the only person in the car and that the car sustained such major damage that authorities needed to use the jaws of life to free him with the help of firefighters and paramedics. woods was rushed to the hospital, and the extent of his injuries so far is still unclear. authorities say it happened around 7:00 a.m. local time in california on the border of rolling hills estates in ranchos palo verdes. the cause of the crash is under investigation. and there is a picture of the car. holy cow. we're going to keep on this breaking story. we will be right back. don't go anywhere. ere. some say this is my greatest challenge ever. but i've seen centuries of this. with a companion that powers a digital world, traded with a touch. the gold standard, so to speak ;)
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over. that car inside of it was tiger woods, golf legend tiger woods. they had to use the jaws of life, paramedics and the fire department had to use the jaws of life to get tiger woods out of that car. he was taken immediately to a local hospital. it's unclear the extent of his injuries. but you can see from the accident right there a lot of damage to the car, and that it was clearly an urgent situation to get him out of that car as quickly as they did. this happened just after 7:00 a.m., 7:12 a.m. on the california coast. so pacific time. it happened on hawthorne boulevard and black horse road. it's near palos verdes and the rolling hills estates in southern california. joining me now is nbc news investigative reporter andrew blankstein. andrew, what more do we know?
>> we know this was a two-car collision. we don't know exactly is being sorted out in this investigation, exactly who hit who first. at this point we know that tiger woods sustained significant injures and was taken to harvard ucla medical center. and in terms of the investigation on the traffic collision is ongoing. >> and tiger woods was the only person in his car? >> that's what we know at this point, yes. >> do we know anything more about who might've been in the other car? >> no additional details on that. again, the investigation has been going now for about an hour and change in terms of who was responsible, you know, the other
parties, no additional on that. >> and, andrew, it happened at 7:12 a.m. do we have any idea how quickly medical personnel, rescue teams were able to get on scene? and how long it might've taken -- i realize that this is all happening as we speak, and we're getting updates. but how long it might've taken to get tiger woods out of that car? >> whenever you employ the jaws of life, obviously the extent of the collision from what sources have told me, obviously very serious. and that was take time. they don't have an exact time from arrival to when he was extricated and then taken to the hospital. but obviously with the rollover crash and a collision like that, it's going to take time to get somebody out. and those are details that we're trying to gather as we speak. in addition, again, to kind of what led up to this, why --
>> you know, andy, when we're looking at these wide shots from the helicopter, these aerials, i'm not seeing another car in this screen. the l.a. county sheriff's office department has said that this was a single-vehicle rollover. are we sure that there was another car? is it just the single vehicle rollover for this car in particular? because i don't see another car when we widen out. andy, are you still there? >> we're trying to get a sense of exactly what happened. there's been the official statements. there's been some things sources have said. we're trying to obviously determine exactly what happened. >> okay. again, to reset for anybody who might just be joining us, we're
covering breaking news out of california on golf star tiger woods. the los angeles county sheriff's office says woods has been injured in a rollover car accident. you can see the car on your screen right there. police say woods was the only person in that car. and you can see it sustained major damage. the authorities needed to use the jaws of life to free him with the help of firefighters and paramedics. woods was rushed to the hospital. the extent of his injuries is still unclear. let's bring in sports editor at "the nation" and host of "the edge" a sports podcast. dave, what can you tell us? >> i can tell you what the l.a.f.d. is saying about the nature of the crash itself. and it looks very serious. the jaws of life being used to get him to the hospital this morning. the other aspect is tiger was just on television on sunday
making a rare appearance speaking about his hopes to play in the upcoming masters. that's always been tiger's tournament. that's the place where he made his mark and became an international super star. and he said he wasn't sure because, as he said to the announcers, he said, well, i only have one back. he's got terrible back problems. and he said i only have one back so there's not a lot of wiggle room. those were his words. i'm thinking about tiger's pre-existing injures in context of this car accident. and that's one of the things that makes this so jarring. >> now we're looking apt these images on the screen. and it looks like investigators are, you know, circling and outlining the debris field of the car trying to figure out exactly what happened. it looks like a sign may have been hit by this car that looks to be a piece of a palos verdes sign. you're talking about prior injuries with his back. tiger woods had just been in the middle of making a major
comeback, a mainly comeback in the world of golf. he was all but written off before this saying that he was never going to be able to do what he did before. i mean, i don't know the extent of his injuries, but from the looks of that looks of that ca doesn't look like it is good news. >> obviously, all our concerns are with tiger woods and his family. tiger woods has been an economy unto himself in the world of golf. when he plays the ratings spike, when he advertises something, it still goes through the roof. and tiger, like up, the history of injuries to his back, his knee. he's paid a real price for playing this game since he was 3 years old, 2 years old when he was brought on to the mcdo you go has show. we've seen him grow up over the course of 40 years, he's been in the news. on the golf course, he was able to meet the incredible potential set out before him as a
teenager. and he was beginning to show his legs again for the first time in a long time. and that gave everybody in the world of golf and the world of sports hope. we have no idea what this crash does to that. >> now, golf digest has been reporting that woods was in los angeles for a two-day content shoot with golf digest and golf tv after serving as host for pga's genesis tour of the weekend. what was next on his schedule? i mean, was there a tournament that was coming up? a tournament in the pallisades riviera tournament? >> yeah. for tiger, it was all about the masters. and getting ready for the masters. that was the major he was preparing himself for. he was being asked if he would claim any tune-up tournaments. he definitely lowered expectations about that saying he didn't know, his exact words
were, i don't know what the plan is, when talking about being able to play before the masters. his general thoughts were that he would practice on his own, do as much tune-up as he. could that's tiger's tournament. and yet he was also sort of showing a way out about whether or not he played at the masters itself, like i said before, he said this is the only back i have. so i don't know if i will be playing or not. >> oh, gosh. you hear about a back injury and a fender bend we are a back injury can mess you up, let alone a rollover crash. for anyone who might be joining us again, this is a car that officials, officers in los angeles, tell us, he had to be taken out of this rollover crash with the jaws of life, extricated from the car. he was rushed to a local hospital.
we do not know the extent of his injuries at this time. this happened at 7:12 a.m. in california pacific time. so 10:12 on the east coast. so a few hours now since this has happened. clearly, investigators are still trying to figure out what exactly went on. i know andy blankstein a moment ago was talking about another car. but from the aerials we have seen, and this is all happening as we are speaking, so bear with us. from thearyials we've seen, i so far have not seen another car that looks to be involved in this crash. the sheriff's office has described this as a rollover crash. a single car rollover crash. they say tiger woods was the only person in that car.
what we're seeing are the chp and the sheriff's department in california, investigating and looking at the debris field of this crash, trying to figure out exactly what happened. so tiger woods in town for a golf digest interview. a shoot with golf tv. and as you were saying, he was in the midst of resurrecting his career, looking forward to the masters with an asterisk by it just in case his back wasn't feeling up to it. it is remarkable. i just watched a documentary on tiger woods the other day. it is remarkable, the comeback that he has made, given all of his not only physical struggles but his personal struggles as well. >> yeah. how can we not think when we hear car accident of tiger woods in the same sentence with november 27, 2009, when he was in an accident by his home and
all the tabloid friends, the pit falls that he had experience in the his personal life which were certainly connected to that accident. we can only hope, a crazy way to put it but we can only hope this is just a car accident and not something that is related to the demons that tiger has had to deal with over the course of his professional life. so much was put on this young man's shoulders at such a young age in terms of who and he was what he was supposed to represent. he's carried that burden for four decades while producing the greatest golf ever played. >> he has been a remarkable figure in the world of sports. and let us hope he will continue to be a remarkable figure in the world of sports. dave, stick with us. i want to bring in my colleague gadi schwartz. what can you tell us?
>> yeah. we're looking at this video here and there is a little that you can tell from that video. i'm not sure if we can zoom in. you can see this car, it is an suv and it looks like it is slightly up on an embankment. there's some sort of insignia on the car. we understand only one person was in that car, tiger woods. when you look at that crash video, we know the jaws of life were used but it doesn't look like they accessed through the roof or any of the doors. it looks like it was either through the back windshield or possibly the front windshield. so we understand that tiger was pinned inside. his injuries are described as moderate to critical but at this point we don't know what those injuries are. we do know that he's been taken to harbor view medical. and again, this happened maybe about three, four hours ago. so you now see that car still on the side there. you don't see any other cars
like you were describing on the side of the road or any other cars that may have been involved. however, our sources are telling andrew blankstein, our investigative reporter, that there may have been another car involved or other cars involved. it is unclear if he may have swerved to avoid cars, or if other cars may have swerved to avoid him. it does sound like there were other vehicles on the road when this crash happened. at this point we're still waiting to hear an update on his condition. we're still waiting to hear an update on what may have caused the crucial but we're also monitoring quite a few confusing social media reports that he may have been golfing this morning with david spade and possibly somebody else. so we're trying to verify if that was this morning. we know that the social media posts have been going up or something that happened prior to today and the social media posts were posted this morning. but at this point it is still very early on in this investigation and we're waiting
to hear from investigators as to what caused the accident here. >> let's go to bill, a columnist for espn, the host of the sports podcast. bill, what do you know? >> reporter: i'm just catching up like you guys. you know, i'm tuning in to the pga golf network, listening to you guys. we've all been in a situation, my first thought was kobe bryant. how do you process this? i mean, you know, like someone mentioned, my god. so many chapters that tiger has written in his life. we've been there with him. and now at the very least, you know, at the very least, a back
injury, he's in surgery, leg injury, the pain, you know at the very least, and i'm praying for him, that this is just, you know, just another physical rehab. at this point, i'm just praying for him that he can walk. so basically, i'm just looking at it and trying to grab, i guess what we should not do, it is hard not to do in our business, but to speculate. and i know that's like saying don't breathe. but not to speculate. remember the car accident in whenever, 2007, i think we have to have some kind of discipline and deal with the here and now, what we know now, and then just
let it unfold. at least that's what i'm doing. >> i think you're totally right. let's not speculate. what we do know right now, from the authorities, this happened just after 7:00 a.m. pacific time, hours ago now. they say it was a single car rollover crash as gadi was reporting. it is unclear if he might have been swerving from another car. what we can tell from the aerials, at least in the immediate field, there is not another car in this scene. it was a rollover crash. the car is now on an embankment, as gadi was saying. the jaws of life were used to take tiger woods out of that car. he was immediately rushed to a local hospital. we do not yet know the extent. his injuries. we've went reaching out to figure out what we can figure out, find out from tiger woods' people. we don't know if he's injured at all, although