tv The Last Word With Lawrence O Donnell MSNBC February 23, 2021 7:00pm-8:00pm PST
that's going to do it for us tonight. we're expecting another busy news day tomorrow. we will find out if democrats are going to be able to move an advance, a rise in the minimum wage through a process that means they will only need 50 votes in the senate, which might mean it would pass as opposed to needing republicans to side with them. we're also expecting to see the man who donald trump put in charge of the post office for breaking it. we will see him tomorrow for a house oversight committee. that starts tomorrow morning. it will be a busy day tomorrow. now it's time for "the last word" with lawrence o'donnell. >> and the control room reliablely informs me you have
been struggling with audio hours throughout the hour that you have brilliantly masked and not let the audience know about. but i know about it. therefore, rachel, the only things you are going to hear from me are thank you, rachel and good night, rachel. >> good night, lawrence. thank you very much. let's never do this again. >> there is nothing worse than audio problems. so if you did not get all of your questions answered today in the senate hearing about the insurrection on january 6th, then our first guest tonight is your next best hope because our first guest tonight will be chairing the next hearing on this in the house of representatives. today two senate committees held a hearing with the people in charge of the first responders trying to control the insurrection on the capitol on january 6th.
and the most surprising news in the hearing was stevenson who was forced to resign as chief of the capitol police the day after the invasion on the capitol saying that he was never shown the fbi intelligence report about what could happen that day. as senate rules committee chair amy klobuchar began her questioning by describing that fbi intelligence. >> the fbi's norfolk field office issued a threat report on january 5th that details specific calls for violence online in connection with january 6th, including that protesters, quote, be ready to fight, end quote and, quote, go there ready for war. >> here's what the former capitol police chief said about that intelligence. did you receive this report? >> thank you very much for the question, ma'am. i actually just in the last 24
hours was informed by the department that they actually had received that report. it was received by what we call -- it's one of our sworn members that's assigned to the joint terrorism task force, which is a task force with the fbi. they received it the evening of the 5th, reviewed it and then forwarded it over to an official at the intelligence division over at the u.s. capitol police headquarters. >> and, so, you hadn't seen it yourself? >> no, ma'am. it didn't go any further than that. >> later in his testimony, he added this. >> if you look at some of our other agencies, i think the acting chief made the statement that the breach at the capitol was not anything anyone anticipated. i don't think secret service would have brought up the vice president if they expected it. >> one point that seemed to emerge from the testimony is that even if capitol police accurately anticipated exactly what was going to happen at the capitol on january 6th, they would not have been able to
prevent it. >> we do train for people trying to get into the building. we don't train for when i said an insurrection of thousands of people. >> an important evidentiary dispute emerged over the capitol police emergency request for help from the national guard. republican senator roy blunt tried to sort out the dispute between paul irving, the house sergeant at arms who was also forced to resign after the attack on the capitol and the former capitol police chief. >> mr. irving, you said in your testimony that when asked for national guard assistance, you approved it. mr. sund stated he asked for the national guard assistance at 1:09, and it was approved at 2:10. why would it take an hour to approve national guard assistance on your part in that moment of crisis? mr. irving?
>> senator, from my recollection, i did not receive a request for approval for national guard until shortly after 2:00 p.m. when i was in michael stenger's office. >> mr. sund, do you know when you asked for national guard assistance? was it 1:09, or was it 2:00 p.m.? >> it was from mr. irving. i believe he was in the company of mr. stinger. >> why would you not remember that, mr. irving? >> senator, i have no recollection of a conversation with chief sund at that time. i did not get a request at 1:09 that i can remember. the first conversation i had with chief sund in that time frame was 1:28, 1:30, and at that -- in that conversation, he indicated that conditions were deteriorating. he might be looking for national guard approval and approval of
our neutral aid agreement with local law enforcement. >> the chief of washington d.c.'s police department robert conte expressed his surprise at the way the request for the national guard was treated in a conference call that he participated in. >> just after some time after 2:00 p.m. i had left the west front of the capitol after initially being at the scene, assessing what was going on, looking at just how violent -- looking at the valiant actions that were taking place. shortly thereafter there was a conversation that convened. the chief was on the call pleading -- there were several army officials on the call. i don't know all by name who was on the call. several officials from district government that were on the call. chief sund was pleading for the deployment of the national guard. in response to that there was not an immediate question, the
national guard is responding. yes, the national guard is on the way. yes, the national guard are being restaged from traffic posts to respond. the response was more asking about the plan that, you know, what was the plan for the national guard. the response was more focussed on in addition to the plan, the optics, you know, of how this looks with boots on the ground on the capitol. and my response to that was simply i was just stunned that, you know, i have officers that were out there literally fighting for their lives and we're kind of going through, you know, what seemed like an exercise to really check the boxes and it was not an immediate response. when i asked specifically, steve sund, chief sund was he requesting the national guard and was that request being denied, the response was, no, that's nothing the u.s. department of navy was, no,
we're not denying the request but they did have concerns. i was just stunned at that response. >> describing what it was like to be in the thick of the devastating battle that day after rushing to work two hours before she was supposed to go on duty. >> i proceeded to the red tun da where i noticed a heavy smoke like residue and smelled what i believed to be military grade cs gas, a familiar smell. it was mixed with fire extinguisher spray deployed by rioters. they continued to deploy cs into the rotunda. officers received a lot of gas exposure, which is worse inside the building than outside because there is nowhere for it to go. i have received chemical burns to my face that have not healed today. of the multitude of jobs i worked, this is by far the worst of the worst. we could have had ten times the amount of people working with
us, and i still believe the battle would have been just as devastating. as an american and as an army veteran, it's sad to see us attacked by our fellow citizens. i'm sad to see the unnecessary loss of life. i'm sad to see the impact this has had on capitol police officers. and i'm sad to see the impact this has had on our agency and our country. >> joining us now is tim ryan, the chair of the house appropriations legislative branch subcommittee, which oversees the capitol police. thank you very much for joining us tonight. were you satisfied with what you heard in that senate hearing today? do you have questions that were not answered? >> well, we still have questions as to the response time. we still have some questions around what was going on with the department of defense. but most troubling, really, lawrence, is the lead-up to january 5th and 6th. and in that intelligence coming
from the fbi that never made it all the way up to the chief, the chief even -- even when he was asking for national guard, and i think this is an important point, lawrence, when he was asking for national guard on january 6th, there were only a few hundred that we would be able to access anyway. so we weren't ready on so many different levels. we need -- there should have been -- look, the optics, the optics, what are the optics of what happened versus what the optics of some national guard troops guarding the capitol to make sure we have a peaceful transition of power after all the incitement that had been going on for the weeks and months to come, those optics, i think every american would choose before the optics we ended up seeing on that day. >> the senators asked for phone records of the former capitol police chief and the former house sergeant at arms to try to get it straight about exactly when the request was first made for the national guard.
do you think you will be able to obtain those phone records this week or is that something we're going to wait for in response to the senate hearing? >> well, we're going to have the acting chief and the acting sergeant at arms this week in front of my committee, so i'm not sure we'll have that information by then. but that's certainly what we want. i mean, this is maddening to sit here and watch the he said she said the cya happening all over the place. you worked on the hill. this is nothing new. but it is frustrating that no one can take responsibility for exactly what happened. and we need those phone records. we want the e-mails. we want to know who got the e-mail from the fbi and then decided that it wasn't that big of a deal. they're just going to pass it off to the intelligence. here again how many e-mails do you get a day? how many does most persons in a professional setting get a day. and you are going to send an
e-mail to somebody? you are not going to pick up the phone and give somebody a call? what are we talking about here? >> the former capitol police chief described the way these people were equipped when they arrived at the capitol. let's listen to that. >> these people specifically with equipment. you are bringing climbing gear to a demonstration. you are bringing explosives. you are bringing chemical spray. you are coming prepared. the fact that the group that attacked our west front 20 minutes approximately 20 minutes before the event ended, which means they were planning on our agency not being at what they call full strength, you know, watching the other event saying, that event is ending, get on the post they will be marching our way, knowing we may not be at full strength at that time and also the fact that we were dealing with two pipe biems set off the edge of our perimeter to what i suspect draw resources
away, i think there was a significant coordination with this attack. >> and congressman, even after that testimony, senator rod johnson entered into the record a statement not by anyone in law enforcement but by a bystander who was describing how peaceful that this bystander thought the trump crowd was until, in this person's view, the capitol police provoked them into trying to take over the capitol. >> absolute insult to all of the rank and file members of the capitol police and their families, the 60 to 70 members of the capitol police and d.c. metro who were hurt, the two officers who took their own lives, the one who died in that activity that day, the insurrection. that is a complete insult.
it is delusional and it's an insult and they're perpetuating another version of the lie that caused this in the first place. and to some level, and it's scary, but about 58% of republicans actually believe what this man said because that's what's churned up on right wing news media. so there is a reason why they keep saying it. there is a reason why holly is pushing back. they're talking about antifa. you have 200 people that have been arrested and the president told us to come down here. right? you have all these flags taking down the american flags and we will kill people and go after nancy pelosi and the screaming and the yelling and the hollering and the association with all these right wing groups. i mean, come on, it's clear. the evidence is clear, open and shut case. and, yet, the right wing is becoming even more delusional about, you know, their prospects of the future. >> there were no questions today
about the possibility of some capitol police officers reportedly being overly cooperative with these people when they were invading the capitol. there have been reports of some possible investigations of maybe a couple of dozen capitol police officers who were behaving in what seemed to be too friendly a manner. do you know anything about that aspect of the investigation, and is that something you are going to be looking into? >> we're looking into it. a lot of it gets back to the lack of command and control. the rank and file members, and i have been talking to them now for weeks every time i walk passed a couple. i asked what was going on, where they were. there was no command in control structure. they didn't know what to do. you are talking about the one gentleman who put on a maga hat and he was just trying to -- he didn't know what to do. he had no orders of what to do. and our understanding he was just trying to like, look, i'm with you. let's calm down. i'll put the hat on. he didn't know what to do.
i think there was a lot of that going on, of how do we try to diffuse this and without any advice or command coming from up above, every officer was left to their own devices. and, you know, to put them in that position, that's what's really frustrating is that those men and women, like the captain who testified, were put in a position that put their lives in danger and, like i said, 60 or 70 of them have injuries and a couple committed suicide. i mean, that's what happened because of the lack of leadership. that's what we need to fix. so we need to understand the past in order to fix the future. but there were so many breakdowns on so many different levels that it's going to take some time for us to shift through all this and then put a real plan together which the general is helping us do to help us deal with this in the future. >> thank you for joining us tonight. we will be watching your version of this hearing on thursday.
>> it will be the most popular legislative branch appropriations hearing in a long time, lawrence. >> that's right. first time we have watched. that is true. thank you very much, congressman. really appreciate it. thank you. >> thank you. and when we come back, the most important debate about the biden covid relief bill will happen tomorrow, and that debate will determine if a minimum wage increase can be included in the senate bill, and like all of the most important discussions in washington, you will not be allowed to see it. congresswoman anil la jie pal will join us next. will join us next. (vo) ideas exist inside you, electrify you. they grow from our imagination, but they can't be held back. they want to be set free. to make the world more responsible, and even more incredible. ideas start the future,
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held tomorrow. and like all of the most important debates in washington, it will not be televised. it will be behind closed doors where the real governing happens. the debate will occur in a meeting in the office of the senate parliamentarian elizabeth mcdonagh. by now everyone knows that the man i'm talking about who will participate in that debate is the chief counsel of the senate budget committee. the reason i mention what a nice guy bill is is that being nice in washington is a sort of super power that very, very few people have. and it makes bill all the more compelling and persuasive to listen to. in my years working in the senate, i never dared disagree with him. he also brings more knowledge and authority than anyone else
to every discussion that he is in. he literally wrote the book about the senate budget process 30 years ago, 10 years before elizabeth mcdonna was working in the senate office. she is the senate's first woman parliamentarian and possibly the most praised senate parliamentarian ever. harry reid promoted her to parliamenttarian in 2012 and mitch mcconnell has praised her fairness and judgment, calling her a brilliant lawyer. republican senate staffers will be in the meeting tomorrow in the office arguing that an increase in the minimum wage violates the senate rules on what can be included in a budget reconciliation bill. bill will argue that the minimum wage increase does fit within a budget bill. and elizabeth mcdonna might announce her position by this time tomorrow night. it is common for major issues like to be decided before a big
bill comes to the senate floor. if the minimum wage is included in the bill, senate majority leader chuck schumer will have to work very hard to hold on to the votes of two senate democrats joe manchin and kristin cinema who don't want to wage the minimum wage as high as $15 an hour. here is the essence of the message chuck schumer is delivering to senate democrats who might not be fully supportive of every single thing in the bill. >> i have made a pitch today to our entire caucus, and i said that we need to pass this bill. the american people, the american public demands it. and everyone is going to have things that they want to see in the bill and we'll work hard to see if we can get those things in the bill. but job number one is to pass the bill. pass the bill we must and i have confidence we will do it. >> joining us now is democratic congresswoman pramila jayapal who represents the 7th district
of washington state. she is the chair of the house progressive caucus. thank you very much for joining us tonight. things are going smoother and more predictably in the house as usual because you do not have a senate parliamenttarian to contend with different rules there. so it looks like you will be voting on the house floor possibly friday or saturday. do you have any guidance on that yet? >> that's what we're hearing. it will be at the end of the week. of course we fought very hard to keep the minimum wage provision in the bill. it is in the bill. speaker pel loisy, chairman scott have been very, very supportive of this and we're going to pass it, lawrence, if our bill. and as you described bill douser, i was thinking thank goodness we have bill on our side. >> he's also a policy expert. how difficult was it to hold on to this increase to $15 in the
minimum wage in the house? >> well, it was challenging for a couple of different reasons. there was some procedural confusion about what we could include in the house package without having a house senate rule yet. so i was able to call on bill douser actually thanks to senator sanders and set up a meeting between the senate folks and our leadership folks to make sure we were clear that there was no threatening the bill overall if we included the $15 minimum wage. and then of course just to continue to remind people of this unprecedented crisis that we face and the fact that this is a pop you list ( policy passed in democratic and republican states across the country and desperately needed in this time of covid to pick 30 million people up, to lift the wages of 30 million people and to lift 1.3 million people out of poverty. i mean, this is a game changer when we're talking about these
black, brown, indigenous poor people around the country that have been continuing to work on the front lines but can't take care of themselves and their families on $15,000 a year. >> let's listen to what chuck schumer also said about trying to maintain unity in the senate among senate democrats and how well that has worked so far. >> so far, so far we have had great unity on impeachment we had great unity. on the two bills that have come before the two votes that have come before us on reconciliation, we have had great unity. we need to keep it. we're fighting to get it and so far so good. >> yes, senator chuck schumer uses a flip phone. what did you expect him to use? so that unity in the senate is something that is very, very hard to hold on to. and, so, what have you learned in the house in getting -- getting the minimum wage into
the bill in the house that is helpful for chuck schumer to try to hold on to it in the senate? >> i just keep reminding everybody that we won the senate majority, the house majority and the white house because black, brown, indigenous, poor working people across this country were crying out for help and for a change in leadership and they were willing to give democrats one more shot at really trying to get them the relief that they deserve and that they need. and i'll tell you that moral argument right now actually did do a lot to keep people together in terms of what democrats promised on the campaign trail and what we now have to deliver. and, lawrence, you know we don't have a lot of time here. the midterms are in two years. we need to show people that their lives are approach yeahbly better, that we can get control of the virus and we can put money in people's pockets. that's why the two most important priorities were making
sure we had survival checks that went to the same, you know, group of people that got them last time and that we kept the thresholds the same and also minimum wage. so we have been very clear about that and i think that every democrat who ballings at a $15 minimum, not less than $15, a $15 minimum wage should remember it was 2002 when fast food workers first went out and started calling for a $15 minimum wage. it was 2015 when we passed it in seattle, the first major city to do so. it has been 12 years without a single cent being increased for our lowest wage workers. >> congresswoman pramila jayapal, we're out of time, but i would like you to confirm one piece of my reporting tonight. that is that bill duster is the nicest man in the world or at least the nicest man working in the senate staff or in some way
one of the nicest men you have ever met in your life. >> confirmed, lawrence, confirmed. you are an excellent reporter. thank you very much, congresswoman. we really appreciate it. >> thank you, lawrence. >> thank you. and when we come back, some of the senators who actually helped incite the insurrection at the capitol had the audacity to participate in the senate hearing about that today. michael steele and zerlina maxwell will join us next. us ne. little rock and even worcester. and tonight... i'll be eating the chicken quesadilla from...tony's tex mex...in... katy. (doorbell) (giggle) do ya think they bought it? oh yeah. ♪ pepto bismol coats and soothes your stomach for fast relief do ya think they bought it? and get the same fast relief in a delightful chew with pepto bismol chews. jackson hewitt knows your job description may have changed this year. to say...
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even the insurrection inciters were allowed to speak at today's senate hearing about the attack on the capitol. >> thank you to call of the law enforcement from all of our various branches who responded in this dire emergency to face these criminal rioters, these violent criminals to repulse them from the capitol and to secure this space so that the work of congress could continue. >> joining our discussion now is
zerlina maxwell and michael steele, former chairman of the republican national committee and host of the michael steele podcast. he is an msnbc political analyst. there was senator hawley calling these people criminals after we saw he was cheering them on that day with the raised fist. >> yeah, and we all remember, although senator hawley hopes we forget. i am at my wit's end. i have no patience for the bad faith in which the republicans are engaging in telling the big lie over and over and over again and acting like this was something other than people who support donald trump wearing t-shirts that said donald trump's name of them, chanting donald trump's name. so josh hawley can, you know,
pretend that's not what happened. but it is pretty galling to watch him blatantly lie and try to act like it was violent criminals when it was trump supporters. so i kind it all pretty appalling, lawrence. >> michael steele, short memory seems to be what some of these republican senators are counting on. >> yes, indeed. forgive me for laughing coming into the segment because you played that clip with the image of josh hawley with his fist up and he's calling out these people and it is just laughable. it is comical. and zerlina maxwell has it right. we know, in fact, that's not where josh hawley stood on that day. that image alone is sered in the memories of every american and is sered in the minds of the men
and women who serve on the capitol as well. and, so, the reality here is you are going to get, you know, the big rope a dope where, you know, they are just going to sort of try to box the american people into, you know, a -- back them into a corner and just tire us out on this issue. but as this hearing continues and more information is unfolded here, lawrence, i think we don't grow tired. we grow angrier and frustrated with the lie and perpetuation of the big lie. >> there was one witness at the hearing today, captain mendoza who was actually in the thick of the battle. let's listen to more about what you described going through in the thick of that battle. >> i had no choice but to proceed through the violent crowd in the building. i made my way through the crowd
by yelling and pushing people out of my way until i saw capitol peace and riot gear in the hallway. they were holding the hallway to deep rioters from penetrating deeper into the building. i immediately jumped in line with them to assist in holding the crowd of rioters. at some point my right arm got wedged between rioters and the railing on the wall. >> and she did not have any protective gear at that time. >> no. and i think it's important that she is a black woman speaking her truth about what she experienced on that day. and you saw senator ron johnson basically twirling his pen while she talked about the trauma she experienced as a result of the insurrection. and i just -- i find it so unnerving in a way how we continue to take some of these folks very seriously.
obviously they are in positions of power. but i honestly think that at a certain point there has to be a line that they get laughed out of the room when the truth is literally under oath testifying in front of them about what happened that day and how traumatic it was for those who experienced it and the reason why those people stormed the capitol is because of the perpetuation of lies to michael steel's point but also the inability to stand up to the base that supports donald trump. he's not the president. he can't even tweet. and i think they should probably be more focussed on those folks who will remember they did this, that multiracial coalition that congresswoman pramila jayapal was talking about. that majority will not forget. you know, i think they say on "game of thrones" the north remembers. we'll remember that, lawrence. >> and, michael, ron johnson
started reading this very strange piece written by a bystander, someone who was not in any way officially involved in this who was standing outside the capitol apparently at some point on the capitol grounds inside the perimeter fence, so not supposed to be there and describing how nice and friendly all these trump people were until the capitol police provoked them. >> yeah. again, i mean, the bucket of stupid that comes from some of these folks is just amazing. so of all the things you can enter into the record on the heels of the testimony that you are witnessing and hearing from officers who were under siege, the officer who was sitting in front of you with chemical burns still on her face that are healing and your counter is, well, there was an eye witness who saw that the rioters were actually weren't rioters, they were really nice people until
the capitol hill police provoked them. really? that's your comeback. that's what you want to put in the official record on this matter? i mean, how do we take anything that a ron johnson and a josh hawley has to say as anything but farcical at this point. and, look, you know, they've got their seat. they got their position and they will use it however they want. but that doesn't mean the rest of us have to tolerate the continual lying to us. and we don't. >> michael steel, sooer lee that max well, thank you both for joining us tonight. >> thanks, lawrence. >> thank you. >> thanks, lawrence. coming up, georgia senator raphael warnock will be running for re-election in 2022 and he has scared off the most prominent republican who was thinking about running against them. that's next. them that's next. ♪ hey now, you're a rock star, get the show on, get paid ♪
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the trump worshipping former georgia republican senator david perdue has had enough. after losing his senate re-election campaign he began publically considering running again in two years against senator raphael warnock. and now purdue has announced that he's giving up on that dream. senator warnock said i am prepared to defeat whatever republican they come up with. georgia republicans are pushing forward legislation to restrict the ability to vote, approving a bill requiring for identification for absentee voting, the first elections bill to clear a legislative chamber. released a 2020 election postmortem report that outlines their path to future election victories. according to "the washington post," that analysis says -- concludes that with a beefed up voter registration program per
cycle, democrats can turn the state blue by 2024. staey abrams and her former campaign manager argued in a recent new york times op-ed that any state can turn blue writing particularly those in the sun belt where demographic change will precede electoral opportunity. joining us now is the ceo of fire fight action. she managed stayty abrams campaign for governor in 2018. thank you very much for joining us tonight. i want to get your reaction to this breaking news that as of now senator warnock is running unopposed for re-election now that david perdue has thought better of it. >> i don't think david perdue knows how to operate in the new republican party, which is the party of marjorie taylor greene and donald trump. the house is on fire, but the one thing they agree on,
lawrence, is voter suppression. we are seeing an onslaught of voter suppression, the likes of which we haven't seen. but it isn't just georgia. it is only 250 voter suppression bills have been across the country. so while they are in disarray, they are focussed on retaliation and are moving a very racest voter suppression agenda and trying to prove it through the legislature while they fight amongst themselves. >> what do you see coming in that senate campaign for senator warnock? >> look, it's going to be a tough fight and that's why you are seating the voter suppression not just here but in georgia. it went for biden and elected democratic senators and both states have senate elections in 2022 critical for holding the majority for democrats. here is part of what i wanted to
come on the show tonight and say is democrats we have to get in formations. republicans are in a tail spin because of donald trump. however, they are in formation on voter suppression, and this is very, very dangerous. over the next decade, multiple states, georgia, arizona, whites go into the minority of the population. the demographic of this country where whites will be the minority by 2025 is accelerated in the sunset, so we have this set of dynamics going into redirecting and the senate races where if we don't push back hard on voter suppression and that means federal action this year on preclearance, on getting states like georgia that have a racist history and not just a history a racist now need to have to pre-clear their voting changes with the department of justice.
automatic voter regular ration and all the changes before the people act. democrats in congress need to give biden the cabinet he needs so we can get moving. this is an existential threat to the future of our democracy. so we feel democracy what was attacked at the capitol. we feel a sense of urgency because without federal action we are fighting this every single way we can on the ground and with allies across the country but it's time to act and it's time for democrats nationally to understand how pressing this crisis is with 253 bills and it's just starting. we're going to see more over the next month. >> what about meeting this challenge at the state level, which also includes democrats getting serious about state level campaigns for the legislature? >> absolutely. georgia, texas, arizona have all made tremendous gains in the state legislature.
overall, we're about 14 seats from the majority here in the statehouse and a little further behind in the state senate, but we're within striking distance. but here's the problem -- trump undermined the census dramatically. we'll see. we don't have to numbers yet because of what trump did. then we're going into redistricting. the republican party controls the machinery of redistricting in georgia and many other battleground states. they're going to do partisan and racial gerrymandering and draw themselves their majority for the next decade. that means we have to have ten-year plans on our side. that's why stacy and i wrote that op-ed. stacy and i met ten years ago and started make a path. we built that on state legislative gains, which we have made since ten years ago. that's what we're going to have to do across the sun belt, where the population is growing and becoming more diverse, and what we're going of to to look at
many my home state of ohio. what downballots can we make? celebrate the victories. sometimes victories are losing by less. texas made gains in the legislature. they didn't win but they cut their margin straitwide and did demonstrate that progress. this is going to be a tough decade. we have a lot of head winds, but we need to fight the battles at the state level and push our delegations to take action on voting. >> you are guiding us on what i think is the most important political story of our time, which is the preservation of democracy and what that means in our elections. thank you very much for joining us again tonight. >> thanks for having me. coming up, tiger woods is out of surgery after a terrifying rollover car crash early this morning in los angeles. we'll have an update from the hospital next. it's either the assurance of a 165-point certification process. or it isn't. it's either testing an array of advanced safety systems.
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here's what los angeles county sheriff's offices found when they reached tiger woods' vehicle after a car crash this morning. >> the interior of the cabinet was more or less in intact, the front end was destroyed, the air bags deployed. the interior was intact which kind of gave him the cushion to survive. otherwise it would have been a fatal crash. the los angeles times is reporting tiger woods sustained serious injuries of both legs, including a shattered ankle and two leg fractures. joining us now from harbor ucla medical center is steve patterson. steve, what's the latest? >> reporter: lawrence, for context i think it's important to note we're already talking about the conversation moving from whether or not tiger woods will survive this or walk again
to whether or not he'll play golf again. many people seeing that as a -- 7:12 a.m. is when the call came in from a neighbor who heard and saw the crash. when sheriff's deputies arrived they arrived to tiger woods, the only person involve in the that accident was lucid, communicative, alert, responsive. one deputy said he asked woods' name to orient himself. he responded tiger. they went on to have a conversation with the deputy saying he was particularly calm despite the situation. that is counter to the scene they showed up upon. the exterior of the car was in complete wreckage. only the interior intact served as a protective bubble for woods combined with the fact he was wearing a seat belt. something the sheriff credited unequivocally with saving his
life. taken to the hospital here at harbor ucla. important to note this is not necessarily the first hospital that is nearby, which speak to the fact that these are not life-threatening injuries. we've gotten information from the l.a. county fire department, the sheriff department, and woods' own management team. in the hours that ensued thinss since this transpired nothing from the hospital themselves about the injuries. once again, to note, no sign of inebriation, impairment, at least from the deputies on scene. deputies were talking about the area that woods crashed in. lawrence, i know you know los angeles well. some of the hillside communities in the county that surrounds l.a. you'll have steep inclines, steep declines, hair pin turns,
"s" turn curves. this area, infamous for car accidents. several they'll see over the course of a year. that speaks to the nature of the hair woods was traveling in. that will be part of the investigation as well as the speed he was traveling in, all alongside the fact that he's now recovering from surgery. >> thank you for the report, steve. really appreciate it. that is tonight's "last word." "the 11th hour with brian williams" starts right now. good evening once again. day 35 of the biden administration. we now have new at cans of the deadly insurrection, the riot at our capitol from the very chief of security officials on duty that day as a mob screaming hang mike pence overran the building and carry out the deadly siege that went on for hours. today, congress started its