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them. we're also expecting to see the man who donald trump put in charge of the post office for breaking it. we will see him tomorrow for a house oversight committee. that starts tomorrow morning. it will be a busy day tomorrow. "way too early" is up next. at some point my right arm got wedged between rioters and the railing. i received chemical burns to my face that still have not healed. i witnessed officers being knocked to the ground and hit with various objects that were thrown by rioters. of the events i've worked in my 19 years, this was the worst of the worst. the worst of the worst. harrowing testimony from a capitol police captain, the leadoff witness at the first congressional hearing into the january 6th security failure.
the question still, why were security officials so unprepared. plus tiger woods said to be awake, responsive and recovering after crashing his car and undergoing emergency surgery. doctors say the injuries to his legs are severe. the question, are they career-ending. and the latest on the covid crisis,ist vaccine makers say more doses are on the way. the question is, when will the new deliveries meet the demand. it is "way too early" for this. good morning and welcome to "way too early," the show that is rooting for another comeback from one of golf's greatests. i am kasie hunt on this wednesday, february 24th. we'll start with the news. the top officials responsible for securing the u.s. capitol on the day of the january 6th
attack testified before congress yesterday. they blamed poor intelligence for the massive security failure, a communications breakdown, and they blamed each other. we heard from the head of the d.c. metro police and three others who have since resigned, former how was and senate sergeants at arms and the head of the capitol police at the time. let's begin with steven sund, explaining what they prepared for versus what they faced. >> we planned for increased level of violence at the capitol and that some participants may be amped. what we got was a military style coordinated assault. i witnessed insurgents beating police officers with fists, pipes, sticks, bats, metal barricades and flag poles. these criminals came prepared for war. these people came specifically with equipment. you bring climbing gear to a demonstration, you are bringing explosives, you are bringing
chemical spray that were planning on our agency being at not what they call full strength. we planned for increased violence and that some participants may be armed. what we got was a military style coordinated assault. i witnessed insurgents beating police officers with fists, pipes, sticks, bats, metal barricades and flag poles. they came prepared for war. you're bringing chemical spray that were planning on our agency not being at what they call full strength. and then also the fact that we're dealing with two pipe bombs that were specifically set right off the edge of our perimeter to what i suspect draw resources away. i think that there was a significant coordination with this attack. >> so it was first reported by the "washington post" that an fbi office in virginia warned a day before the attack that extremists were traveling to washington for war.
and that the intel was shared with capitol police. security officials who testified yesterday said they didn't see it. >> i actually just in the last 24 hours was informed by the department that they actually had received that report, it was received by what we call one of our sworn members that is assigned to the joint terrorism task force which is a task force with the fbi. they received it the evening of the 5th, reviewed it, and then forwarded it over to an official at the intelligence division. >> so you hadn't seen it yourself? >> no, ma'am. >> mr. stenger, did you get the report? >> no. >> mr. irving. >> i did not. >> then there is the issue of what took the national guard so long to get there. acting chief of the d.c. police robert contee said the first guard members didn't show up until 4 1/2 hours after he first
consecutived. >> chief sund was pleading for deployment of the national guard and there was not an immediate yes, the national guard was on the way. it was more asking about the plan that what was the plan for the national guard, the response was more focused on in addition to the plan, the optics of how this looks with boots on the ground on the capitol. and my response was simply i was just stunned that, you know, i have officers that were out there literally fighting for their lives and we're kind of going through what seemed like an exercise to really check the boxes and it was not an immediate response. >> let me be clear. optics as portrayed in the media played no role whatsoever in my decisions about security. and any suggestion to the contrary is false. safety was always paramount when
making security plans for january 6th. we did discuss whether the intelligence warranted having troops at the capitol. that was the issue. and the collective judgment at that time was no, the intelligence did not warrant that. >> there was also a discrepancy between the former house sergeant at arms there and the former capitol police chief over exactly when the national guard was requested. >> i did not receive a request for approval for national guard until shortly after 2:00 p.m. when i was in michael stenger's office. >> let me get that straight. mr. sunday oig, do you know when you asked for assistance, was it 1:09 or 2:00? >> it was 1:09. >> first conversation i had with chief sund was at 1:28, 1:30. >> during yesterday's hearing, republican senator ron johnson promoted conspiracy theories
claiming that fake trump supporters were to blame for the violence storming at the capitol. he used much of his allotted time reading from a piece published by the right wing website the federalist that made unsubstantiated claims about the attack. >> many of the marchers were families with small children, many were elderly, overweight or just tired or frail. traits not typically attributed to the riot-prone. many wore pro police shirts. although the crowd represented a broad cross section of americans mostly working class by their appearance and manner of speech, some people stood out. a very few didn't share the jovial friendly earnest demeanor of the great majority. some obviously didn't fit in and he describes four different types of people. plain clothes militants, agents provocateurs, fake trump protesters and disciplined uniform cowling attackers. i think these are the people that probably planned this.
>> joining us now, capitol hill important leigh ann caldwell. always great to have you. why don't we start there with ron johnson who was promoting conspiracy theories about an event that threatened his life and the lives of everybody else in that room. for the most part this hearing actually featured republicans and democrats asking probing questions aimed at actually youtd lining a time line and a set of facts. johnson of course was the exception. >> reporter: that's right. well, senator johnson has been going down these conspiracy theory rabbit holes for quite some time. he was obsessed with hunter biden over the past year or two. and so this is not that shocking for senator johnson who i don't know how to take him seriously as a senator anymore, to ask him serious probing questions as a reporter. he is up for re-election in 2022 in a state that biden won in
2020. and talking to democratic sources, this is a top get for democrats in the midterm elections because they think he is so out of step with a blue leaning state. but there is also a constituency that absolutely believes what senator johnson is saying especially when there is this dichotomy in news coverage of what actually happened on that day in places like fox news barely even cover the hearing like happened yesterday. so it was pretty unbelievable to watch the senator as understand who was in danger on that day peddle such conspiracy theories. >> so let's talk more broadly when what happen next here. i'm still a little stuck on the fact that it is february -- today february 24th, february 23rd yesterday, first time that we had heard from a lot of these officials in public, the capitol police have barely issued any
statements at all since january 6th. we have heard some from the capitol police officers union. but not from the leadership. why has it taken so long to get this much information and also why isn't congress simply demanding more? i mean, they could write a law that says hey, capitol police, you guys have to tell us a lot more about what went on. >> reporter: one thing interesting to me is senator cruz said that he wanted the phone records to settle some of these discrepancies of what actually happened on that day because there was so much finger pointing, it was hard to get a clear sense of accountability and who is to blame. and i'm sure it won't be just one person. but a multitude of people. but i'm looking at this as like the first chapter in a multichapter book to getting the full story here. just next week, they just
announced that there is a hearing with the department of homeland security, the department of defense, who also came under tremendous criticism at yesterday's hearing as well. a lot of these officials yesterday at the capitol security complex, former officials, really put a lot of blame on the department of defense as well. so i think that it is just going to be this long drawn out drama of trying to piece together these dots. >> and it will take quite some time. and i agree with you, figuring out why it was that the national guard took so long to show up, what conversations were happening behind the scenes and what role the white house did or didn't play will be a topic much of scrutiny. leigh ann caldwell, really appreciate it. still ahead here, a live report on tiger wood' condition.
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welcome back. tiger woods was awake, responsive and recovering in his hospital room after having a rod put into his leg during surgery following a rollover car crash near los angelesis according tot released by his team. and the achieved medical officer and interim ceo at harvard ucla medical center where he underwent surgery said the 45-year-old golfer suffered significant orthopedic injuries to his right lower extremity. the rod was inserted into his tibia to stabilize fractures and screws and pins were used to stabilize injuries to the foot
and ankle. driving to a tv shoot on a sweeping hill downhill stretch of road through upscale l.a. suburbs, authorities say woods was alone in his suv when at around 10:15 a.m. eastern it crashed. the crash was into a raised median and crossed two oncoming lanes and the car rolled several times before ending up on its side near a steep road that is known for car wrecks. police say woods was alert as firefighters pried open the front windshield to get him out. and while the cause is under investigation, police said there is no evidence woods was impaired and no one else was injured. they didn't say how fast he was driving. the single car crash is another setback for the 15 time major champion now recovering from a tenth surgery over a decade of nagging injuries and other personal problems. each time, he has returned to the course with success.
most recently in his comeback at augusta in 2019 where he won his fifth green jacket. already sidelined while recovering from a fifth back surgery, woods sunday said he had hoped to return for this year's masters tournament planned for april. now the question is, will he ever play golf again. joining us now from outside the medical center, meghan fitzgerald. what it do we know about whether we'll see him back on the golf course again? >> reporter: good morning. that certainly is the question. and when you take a look at that footage, it is just jarring to just see how damaged that vehicle is. but we can report some good news this morning. the fact that he is alert and responsive, we learned that in a statement that was issued just overnight. and i want to go back to the series of events that led up to
this. what we know, in speaing with the sheriff yesterday, the area in which he was drive, it was going downhill, the area is known for car crashes. so they believe that he may have picked up speed somehow veered off the road as you mentioned, slammed in to a sign in the median before continuing on hitting a tree, flipping, and then he was stuck inside that car. and if you see the footage, you can see that the front end is just completely destroyed. so the magnitude of this crash just so intense. we spoke with the deputy who was the first person there on scene. he describes what happened. take a listen. >> when i arrived on scene, mr. woods was seated in the driver's seat. i made contact with him and i ensured that he was able to speak to me. at that time he seemed as though he was still calm and lucid. >> there was no evidence of impairment, so subsequent to that, we're not going to make any -- there was no effort to
draw blood for example at the hospital. >> reporter: now, investigators are looking into speed being a factor in this crash. and as you mentioned, it was just several weeks ago that he underwent his fifth back surgery. he was recovering from that. certainly this is a blow to tiger woods. but deputies are like listen, he is lucky to be alive. and when you see those images, you can understand just the magnitude of this incident. >> yeah, watching this unfold yesterday afternoon and seeing the pictures of that car, i think we were all extraordinarily worried and it is very, very gratifying to hear that he is at least awake and fingers crossed he is able to keep healing. meagan, thank you very much for being up overnight for us in california. still ahead here after a slow rollout, coronavirus vaccine makers are promising a major boost in production. we'll take a look at what pfizer
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welcome back. i'm kasie hunt. neera tanden's chance to lead the office of management and budget will likely be decided today. her nomination hangs by a thread after several moderate republicans and one swing democrat already have said that they will oppose her. senator lisa murkowski could be the deciding vote telling reporters yesterday she will make a game time decision. president biden remains optimistic she will be confirmed, but tanden's nomination is a point of contention between both parties. >> my friendly advice to president biden is to withdraw neera tanden's nomination and select someone who at the very least has not promoted wild conspiracy theories and openly bashed people on both sides of the aisle that she happens to agree with.
>> for republicans who look the other way with the nastiest of treats by their president, their leader, for now saying neera tanden shouldn't get in because much her tweets is a little bit of a contradiction. >> and mitch mcconnell voicing support for president biden's attorney general pick, merrick garland. mcconnell asked by politico if he will support garland's nomination said i do. he did not elaborate. joining us now, mark leibovich. great to have you on "way too early." and that two word comment from mcconnell telling of course becausehe prevented garland getting a hearing for the nomination to the supreme court. so fine, you can have that job instead. but you've done a ton of deep reporting on merrick garland's past, his work on domestic
terrorism, his personal experiences after the oklahoma city bombing. after seeing the hearing there and seeing the hearing into the riot at the capitol, what would you underscore about garland's experience and what he faces the next four years? >> good to be on with you. i would say that merrick garland is in the washington shorthand sort of known as the guy who didn't get the job. there are very few people who are sort of known by jobs they didn't get and merrick garland is one of them. he's had unrivaled success in his career and yet what most people sort of associate with him is that he was nominated to the supreme court by president obama and because largely because of mitch mcconnell who blocked his nomination, he never got a hearing, never got a vote. and never got his dream job. so the truth is though, that his
formative experience as a prosecutor was with domestic terrorism in the '90s. specifically the oklahoma city bombing case whose investigation he oversaw over a number of really, really rough weeks in the '90s. and it sort of comes around now where all of a sudden the man meets the moment where he has been playing out the end of his career and now all of a sudden domestic terrorism is once again the single biggest threat according to many law enforcement officials facing the country. and there is a democratic president, he needs an attorney general and here we are. >> so big picture here. we've talked some about some of the problems that biden's nominees are facing. neera tanden obviously in a little bit of trouble, some questions about some others. but so far things do seem to be proceeding in a somewhat normal fashion in terms of getting his cabinet into place and trying to return things to some level of
normalcy. but on the other hand, you have people like ron johnson in these hears saying, you know, things that where simply not the case, raising questions about accounts of what actually happened on january 6th.simply not the case raising questions about accounts of what actually happened on january 6th. as somebody who spends so much time thinking about all these things and how washington works and having been there on january 6th, i was stunned to see a senator, somebody whose life was under threat, say maybe it wasn't that bad, maybe this wasn't who actually showed up. how does that resolve itself? >> i would say that, look, ron johnson is going to be the ron johnson. i mean, there is always going to be a handful of senators and especially now who are going to try to be on brand, right, and who are going to play a role because either they really believe it or they think that it suits them politically or they are trying to own the libs or something. but look, the republican party as we've seen a lot over the last few years has a pretty
solid sector of people -- not that big in the senate especially, it is much bigger in the house, who are going to sort of be contrarian if you want to put it that way, false if you want to put it that way, in arguments like this. i think as far as the big picture goes, yes, i mean the nominations for biden's cabinet have gone a little slowly, mostly because of impeachment, there have been a ew delays. so yeah, there will be these little spectacles that pop up every day because there will be certain people like ron johnson who are going to make news like this and all of a sudden, you know,e agitated and upset by it. but i think that it will be probably a part of the political landscape going forward for probably a long time. >> certainly in determine the future of the republican party, whatever that means now after everything we have seen.
mark leibovich, thank you very much for getting up with us. still ahead here, from music history to a new look from the post office. we have something completely different coming up on "way too early." up on "way too early. wanna build a gaming business that breaks the internet? that means working night and day... ...and delegating to an experienced live bookkeeper for peace of mind. your books are all set.
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. welcome back. the house will vote on president biden's $1.9 trillion coronavirus relief bill on friday. majority leader steny hoyer made the announcement yesterday claiming in part the american people strongly support this bill and we are moving swiftly to see it enacted into law. meanwhile, mitch mcconnell expressed the republican party's disdain for the aid package. >> when you look at the numbers, 50/50 senate, narrow majority in the house, i would think looking at that, your conclusion would
be maybe we ought to start on a bipartisan basis. but alas that is not the case. >> joining us now, member of the hoist armed services committee and foreign affairs committee congresswoman chrissy houlahan. thank you so much for getting up with us. let's start with the relief bill, the vote in the house that is now planned for friday. do you expect that all democrats will stick together and vote to pass this, are there any concerns from progressives at all? >> i haven't heard of any whispers of concerns. in fact, i've heard some whispers it that there may be handful of republicans that would join us. i agree that it would be nice to work bipartisanly, but we haven't had any indication that that is possible and we can't afford to wait any longer. >> there has been some concern voiced by economists that perhaps the number is too high, that it is too much money, that
it will be putting inflation pressure on the economy. do you share those concerns at all or not? >> live heard of those concerns, but for every larry summers, there is someone else saying that we need to swing hard and we can't afford to look backwards and be regretful of not having done enough. so i think that this is the time to make sure that we're helping the american public. it is interesting to see that even though it is not necessarily a bipartisan piece of legislation, that the nation at something like 70% of us supports the fact that we need to go big on something like this. >> so what is your sense in terms of the senate as well? because there is this question about minimum wage which is going to be included, the $15 minimum wage in the house version of the bill. but then there are potentially? challenges keeping joe manchin on one side bernie sanders on the other side if you want to define it that way and get them to all hang together to get the
bill through the senate and they need every single person to do that. how are leaders addressing that question and are you confident that you will be able to pass this bill through the senate and get it to biden's desk? >> you may have more recent information than i do, but as i when i went to bed last evening, i wasn't aware that we necessarily were including or had decided whether or not the $15 minimum wage would be included. i believe that you are right that it will most likely be included in the house side of the bill and it really is up to the senate to reconcile that. i definitely think that they know as we do how important it is to that we make this happen and figure out how to work together to advance it on our side friday and on theirs as soon as possible. >> while i have you, congresswoman, i believely want to ask you about afghanistan and the way the biden administration so far has handled what the trump administration had promised would be a full withdrawal by may 1 of american
troops from afghanistan. how would you evaluate what the biden administration has said and done so far on this question and what would you like to see them do? >> i actually had the privilege to be -- to join some of the members of the afghan parliament yesterday on a zoom call. and had this exact conversation about how they are feeling, whether or not they are worried about where the united states posture is right now in the new biden administration. and they feel pretty optimistic about their position right now. they believe and i do too that the biden administration is in the early days and weeks of figuring out how they will advance in that region and make sure that we're being helpful in peace talks that i hope are unfolding. and so i think that they are optimistic and i share that optimism that the biden administration again in its early days seems to be really engaged internationally in a way that i'm really excited to see. >> all right. congresswoman chrissy houlahan, thank you so much for being up early with us. we appreciate the time and
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republicans, to make clear that we aren't the party of white supremacy. you certainly saw anti-semitism. you saw the symbols of holocaust denial, for example, at the capitol that day. you saw a confederate flag being carried through the rotunda. we as republicans in particular have a duty and obligation to stand against that, to stand against insurrection. the president and many around him pushed this idea that the election had been stolen. and that is a dangerous claim. it wasn't true. there were over 60 court cases where judges, including judges appointed by president trump and other republican presidents, looked at the evidence in many cases and said there is not widespread fraud. wouldn't grant the relief that the trump campaign was seeking.
so, the idea that we in congress were going to step in and somehow overturn the results of the election on january 6th was never true, was unconstitutional, was wrong. >> that was republican congresswoman liz cheney yesterday, criticizing members of her own party who promoted false narratives of election fraud. joinings now, cofounder of punch bowl news and long-time hill veteran john brez that han. i heard you were deemed mr. punch bowl by senate majority leader chuck schumer yesterday. congrats on the new title. >> thank you very much. >> let's start over on the house side with liz cheney who, you know, you watch what she has to say. it sounds sensible, straight forward and like the way that any republican that used to dominate capitol hill would sound like, but she is in many ways an outlier and being so blunt and direct.
what does that say about her future? where do you think she stands right now inside the republican conference, in the house? and what's the future of the battle between those who agree with her and those who seem much more willing to indulge the fantasies of the former president? >> well, right now she's safe. she had -- she was challenged for her leadership position. the house minority leader kevin mccarthy came to her rescue, and her own support inside the conference. she beat back a vote to remove her from her leadership position after she voted to impeach former president trump. so, right now she's safe. but i do think her comments yesterday are probably raise some eyebrows. there were a lot of republicans inside the conference want herd to move on. you raise this issue. kind of move on. but cheney is not going to put it down. she clearly feels very strongly about this. we heard some rumblings that trump may go to wyoming to
campaign against her. you know, there's some talk about this. you know, they say they haven't scheduled anything yet, but we've heard some talk that he may end up going to wyoming to do something against her. we'll have to see. there's clearly -- he clearly dislikes her and clearly would love to see or love to take part in any kind of effort to oust her, that's for sure. >> well, in speaking of feuds between trump and other republican leaders, he was pretty blistering over the weekend about mitch mcconnell and what mcconnell was willing to say on the senate floor about him. how much of a problem is that? mcconnell is obviously trying to win back the senate. it's a tough climb in a couple of years here. and former president trump could really complicate that. if mcconnell is going to win seats there are places where they need to win general elections, not just primaries. >> pennsylvania and north
carolina, potentially an iowa seat. it's a huge problem for mitch mcconnell. trump will be at cpac this weekend in florida upcoming rnc event. donald trump is not going anywhere. he is still the most powerful figure in the party. he's talked about running candidates against people who voted to impeach him. so, you know, this is a huge problem for mcconnell and the senate republicans if they want to win in 2022. now the interesting thing is the national republican senatorial committee chairman rick scott of florida who also may want to run for the white house, he is trying to say this is all over. there's no feud. this is a media invention. the media didn't invent this. donald trump has an agenda. he's pushing it. he wants everybody to know the republican party is still his. and you know, that includes mitch mcconnell. >> yes. it's deaf -- most definitely not invented.
bres, let's talk about chuck schumer democrats in charge of the senate and the house have very narrow majorities. sure, it seems to me -- and i'm interested to know if you agree -- to have the hardest job right now, trying to balance joe manchin on one hand, bernie sanders on another and afraid of a primary he may face from alexandria ocasio-cortez. there's a meeting about whether the minimum wage will go into this big spending bill. if they put it in there is that a bigger political problem to keep everyone on the same page to keep it done? >> you just had congress woman houlihan on and she was talking about this. in the house they have to have the minimum wage. it would be a bigger problem on them for this covid bill, relief bill vote which is a huge issue for joe biden on friday if the minimum wage was struck f that provision was removed. in the senate, they have the different dynamic. you have joe manchin and
possibly other senate democrats who are concerned about the minimum wage. so schumer, like you said, has a huge balancing effort. he has his left, his right. he has 50 seats. he has no room to maneuver. he has a president who will want a lot of stuff. we asked schumer about this yesterday. we said, how are you dealing with this? he pulled out his phone and schumer's fame is for calling everybody all the time. that's what he does. he speaks to probably 20 senators a day. he just batters them by talking to them over and over again. that's the schumer way is to talk to them forever. but he does -- i have been saying this for months. since they won the majority, schumer got after 40 years became majority leader. the problem was after 40 years he became majority leader in a 50/50 senate. he does have the toughest job in washington. i really believe that. >> yeah. all right, punch bowl news john bresnahan. thank you for being with us.
appreciate your insights and wit to kick us off for the day. as we wrap up, i want to underscore that point, chuck schumer has the toughest job in washington and there's a key test to that today that will have a real impact on how president biden can govern. thank you so much as always for getting up way too early with us on this wednesday. don't go anywhere, "morning joe" starts right now. the events i witnessed on january 6th, was the worst attack on law enforcement and our democracy that i have seen in my entire career. >> the fact of the matter is, this didn't seem like an armed insurrection to me. >> i witnessed insurgents beating police officers with fists, pipes, sticks, bats, metal barricades and flag poles. these criminals came prepared for war. >> if that was a planned armed insurrection, man, you're really a bunch of idiots. >> i think there's a significant coordination with this attack. the former capitol police chief laying waste to the conspiracy theories that