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brighter season, we've had some real milestones just over a month into the biden era. a new covid-19 vaccine requiring only one single dose has just been approved. and yet another promising weapon to president biden's war-time response to the pandemic, and despite the complete absence of republican support, the president's covid relief bill passed in the house this weekend. signaling that some help may be coming to americans as unemployment benefits expire and rent, as always, is due. and i'm cautiously optimistic that the federal government is in the midst of perhaps the most rigorous conversation it's ever had on the threat of white supremacist terrorists, prompted by last months's insurrection and the four years that led up to it.
but even as the nation attempts to move on from that terrible time, right-wing die hards and the politicians that serve them simply cannot leave the wilderness, and the reemergence of donald trump on to a world stage. there he is live in orlando, closing out this year's conservative political action conference. it proves just how content the republican party is to remain in darkness. we start tonight's show with congresswoman val demings, democrat of florida. congressman, let me go to it, you sit on the house judiciary committee, and this week, you went after republicans who are still playing down the right-wing terror threat by pretending that it's comparable to antifa and black lives matter. but at the same time, we're talking about increasing
surveillance of extremist groups, your democratic colleague, congresswoman karen bass, is concerned that peaceful organization, and peaceful people of color could end up being targeted by an enhanced federal dragnet. you're a lawmaker and a former law enforcer. how do we do both? >> reverend sharpton, great to be with you. how do we do both? we do our jobs. you're right to mention the number one that -- the republicans are in denial about still being in the wilderness. and number two, i could not believe their rhetoric in the hearing on domestic terrorism just last week. the bottom line is, there is no comparison to the movements that we saw last summer, last year, for a direct reason and purpose,
and that centered around police misconduct versus what happened on january 6th, and what we're seeing all over this nation, and clearly know is on the rise, and that's domestic terrorism. one of the things i said to my colleagues during the hearing was, if you want to keep score, because it really sounded like that's what they wanted to do, they will lose their fight every time, because domestic terror has been a part of our history from the beginning. >> and i think that the other distinguishing factor that the right-wing wants to leave out is that at most of the marches, over 99% of them, were peaceful. i was at the forefront of many of them. but none of them were designed to stop a government process like certifying the electoral college vote. this is where aside from the violence, which in and of itself is criminal and seditious, they were there for the express
purposes of interfering with the certification of the votes of the people of this country. >> and reverend sharpton, what they're basically asking us is to not believe lying eyes and lying ears. these were people who were at the capitol on january 6th. they had to flee for their lives just like the democratic members had to flee for their lives. clearly, this violent extremist mob was there, and we know, to hang mike pence. they said it and they brought the tool with them to do it, gallows. and to assassinate nancy pelosi, and who knows how many other members of congress they wanted to assassinate. they brought multiple sets of flex cuffs, as you well know. so surely, they were looking to do multiple apprehensions. it was right there in plain sight. my colleagues on the other side of the aisle experienced it. they totally neglect it.
the violent mob's attempt to overthrow the government, and matter of fact, that day when we went back on the floor, as you well know, they continued to carry the big lie that really caused the entire insursection in the first place. >> you know, we had the vice president with us this week to come out on black history month. i want to play a bit of her view from the white house. >> when i think about the history and i think about what we then have a responsibility to do to carry the baton as our role in the ongoing history, i do think about this moment in the context of so much suffering and loss. and how it has disproportionately impacted black americans. >> as we end this february, one year into the pandemic, the first black history month post trump, how are you, a
congressional black caucus member, who managed the first impeachment trial and who was in the capitol last month, how are you feeling one month later about our ability to, if not unify, then to at least work together on what's vital? >> reverend sharpton, first of all, congratulations on the interview of the first black woman to serve as vice president, and it was just refreshing to hear from somebody who is serious about addressing the disparities in our nation. as you mentioned, one year later, we have had to impeach the same president again. and we have had -- we look back and we see 28 million people who have lost their lives -- i'm sorry, 28 million who have contracted the virus. over half a million people who have lost their lives. and we know that black and brown people have been
disproportionately impacted. and so while we have made progress, we're glad about the number of vaccines that are out, we still have a lot of work to do to make sure that people who look like you and me and the vice president are able to get the medical care that they need. we just passed in the house the $1.9 trillion relief package. we know that there are people in our community, small businesses that are hurting, that have been negatively impacted. we need to get this through the senate and get them the help that they so desperately need. >> now, congresswoman, as you heard the breaking news in my intro, donald trump just reemerged onto a stage for the first time since he incited an insurrection that violated your workplace, our nation's state house, and yet on the stage right now, he continues with lies and dangerous rhetoric about the current administration and even dr. fauci.
and he's just 15 minutes into his speech. your reaction. >> well, reverend sharpton, thank you for reminding me that donald trump is here in my home state of florida. you know, we know who donald trump is, right? there's a saying, we know them by the fruits that they bear. we know that donald trump spent four years in office engaged in wrongdoing, abusing his authority, lying and cheating his way through his administration. what concerns me, though, reverend sharpton, are the elected officials, those members of congress, those members of the senate who know better but are there cheering on this man even after he tried to overthrow the government. people were killed on that day. he did absolutely nothing to prevent it or was as slow as he
could be in preventing it. we know donald trump, but what about the senators and the members of congress who also support him, enable him to carry the big lie? >> now, briefly, before we go, so much of judge merrick garland's hearing this week to be the new attorney general focused on defeating hate groups. and this week, the pentagon issued a report warning of the threat from white supremacist inside the military. and next week, we have the fbi director testifying on how the agency is going to address white supremacists and domestic violence -- domestic terror violence, i should call it, and we -- in your opinion, are we finally making progress on this threat from within? >> reverend sharpton, as i said earlier, this has been an issue, domestic terror, in this country that has been a part of our history from the beginning. this is not the first time that we have seen it.
last year, in a homeland security hearing, the director of the fbi warned that the rise of domestic terrorism is the greatest threat facing our nation, and we have been slow to address it. look what it took to get us to this point, an insurrection of the u.s. capitol. so i do believe we are at least having the discussion, but we gotta have the action, and judge merrick garland said it right. do we have the tools, ie, the laws in place now to effectively deal with the rise of domestic terrorism? we know that we do a pretty decent job with other countries outside countries, but the greatest threat is right here at home. we need to look at our laws, change the laws that need to be made, give the justice department greater authority so we can protect our homeland from within. >> representative val demings, thank you for your time this evening. joining me now is the
governor of new jersey, phil murphy. let me go to this, governor. thank you for being with us this evening. let me begin by saying several places of worship in new jersey have transitioned into vaccination centers. recently, you visited two of them, the first baptist church of lincoln gardens, a black church, and iglacia pentecostal, a church with many spanish speaking members. why did you find it necessary to go? >> reverend sharpton, very good to be with you, very good to see you virtually. this pandemic, we say this a lot, and it is true. it did not create the inequities in our state and in our society, but it has laid them bare. in terms of the folks who have gotten sick, the folks sadly who we have lost, the child inflammatory syndrome, and it has disproportionately impacted
black and brown communities. so we want to make a statement not just by sort of the regular expansion of our vaccine program, we're now over 2 million shots, but we want to make a very explicit, shine a very explicit light on the elements of our program that are directed explicitly toward black and brown communities. and those were two great visits, and by the way, there are many more to come, whether they be houses of worship, community centers, federally qualified health centers, we want to get into the communities as deeply as possible with our vaccination program. it's a work in progress. color have disproportionately been impacted by the virus. new jersey has administered, as you say, 2 million vaccine doses. yet, according to a report by
the trentonian, black and latino residents only make up 9% of that amount. what can you do today as governor to get more shots into the arms of those who are struggling the most? >> you bet. so more of what you saw at lincoln gardens and iglacia in trenton, and there will be more of that, but i tell you what, reverend sharpton, is a potential game changer on this front, is the johnson & johnson vaccine. i was on with alex gorsky and congratulated his firm. we're getting 73,600 doses this first week. i just got off a call, the overwhelming amount of those doses are going into communities that have been disproportionately impacted. black and brown communities. folks who are homeless, pharmacies that are explicitly in the poorest communities in our state. doses that will go to counties
with the explicit partnership and agreement that, for instance, homebound seniors who cannot get to a site will be prioritized. it is a journey, as i say, we're not satisfied, we're not there yet. but we are every single day making the progress that we need to make and must make. >> between your state, new york, and connecticut, you have all addressed the vaccine rollout differently. what do you say to those at home who are still waiting to be eligible to get vaccinated? what are you doing to speed up this rollout? >> yeah, so a big part of that is lack of supply from the federal side. the biden team are doing a great job, by the way. but they inherited an empty cupboard. and slowly but surely, that is getting better. but we still have a big supply/demand imbalance without question. getting better, but still existing. i would say to those folks, i think sooner than later, we're
going to do everything we can to open up eligibility to more and more communities in our state. >> so now we come back to logistics, because data continues to show troubling inequities in vaccine distribution within black people vastly outpaced in most states. one of the suggested causes that continues to show up is a lack of physical transportation, certainly in rural areas. but even in metropolitan areas like harlem, new york, as a hospital administrator, what could state and federal government be doing to get more black people to vaccine sites? >> i would say a couple things. more of what we're doing with more supply and more intensity. but i'll go back to the johnson and johnson vaccine. this is a potential game changer in this respect. again, 73,600, we're trying to get to 4.7 million adult new jerseyans, so this is a step, but i will give you a -- remind
folks this is a one-shot vaccine. regular refrigerator. so this is -- this allows us a lot more flexibility to use a mobile strategy, which we intend to use with this vaccine, particularly at the county level, where you can get to people who are hard to reach. where you don't have to worry about scheduling that second appointment or ultra cold chain storage. so it's not the only weapon we've got. but it is a big step in the right direction beginning this week. >> and as we move forward in that getting that distribution, arranging that transportation, this must be intentional, this cannot just happen by itself. >> correct. >> this must be intentional, as you have gone in and as you have gone to iglacia and first baptist and lincoln gardens, you
know the pastor as long as i do, you call him buster. you don't do that. phil murphy, thanks for being with us this evening. >> bless you. thank you, reverend sharpton. >> coming up, i have a personal letter for the postmaster general, because louis dejoy has failed to deliver on more than one occasion. but first, my colleague richard lui with today's other top news stories. richard. >> rev, a very good sunday to you. some stories that we're watching this hour. the fda authorized a single-shot johnson & johnson vaccine this weekend. it's the third vaccine approved for use in the u.s. 100 million shots are expected to be delivered by the end of june. >> today, myanmar saw its deadliest day of protests in this month's military coup. approximately 18 people were killed, 30 people injured during peaceful demonstrations. military and police shot protesters who object to the
military's removal of the democratic elected leader from power. >> and a successful space walk outside the international space station. the two nasa astronauts, victor glover jr. and kate rubins, began their journey just past 6:00 a.m. east coast time. they prepared the station for new solar array upgrades. the next space walk is march 5th. more "politics nation" with reverend al sharpton right after the break. sharpton right after the break. burritos right here in aurora. (doorbell rings) excellent as a local access show, we want everyone to support local restaurants. right cardi b? yeah! eat local! (trill sound)
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week's gotcha to the postmaster general, louis dejoy. if that name sounds familiar, it's because dejoy, who was appointed during the trump administration, was widely condemned for his actions during the 2020 election. in an apparent attempt to slow down the postal service for mail-in ballots during the pandemic, dejoy ordered the
dismantling of mail sorting machines, limited allowable overtime for postal employees, and successfully sabotaged timely mail service to the key swing states. all while ignoring his own conflicts of interest, including tens of millions of dollars invested in companies that do business with and compete with the agency he leads. but while the trump administration didn't often bother with accountability, he might be seeing some soon. mr. dejoy was called before congress this week, where he was asked to answer for both his misbehavior and his plans for the future, including slowing down mail service even more and raising prices for americans. when asked to account for his actions, mr. dejoy got a little snippy. >> finally, mr. dejoy, you're a
political appointee, a hold over. no one knows how much longer -- >> that's incorrect, i'm not a political appointee. i was selected by a bipartisan board of governors and i would really appreciate if you would get that straight. >> well, how much longer are you planning to stay? >> long time. get used to me. >> but mr. dejoy might be in for a rude awakening. because while the previous president might respond to a government official making such a public challenge with bluster, bloviating, and threats, president biden is a man of action. and since only the board of governors can remove dejoy, that's where the president is channeling that action. with three new nominations to the u.s. postal service board of governors, once confirmed, biden's 3 nominees would create a democratic majority on the board, which is currently
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bizarre as ever. maligning the biden administration and even dr. anthony fauci, as he returned to his old self, spreading falsehoods from the stage. joining me now is my panel. aisha mills, democratic tratgist, and susan del percio, republican strategist and msnbc political analyst. susan, as we speak, donald trump has reemerged onto the stage for the first time since he incited an insurrection on capitol hill. while he's been mostly lying about the record of the current administration, he took time to dispel one rumor about his own political future. take a listen. >> they kept saying, he's going to start a brand-new party. we have the republican party. it's going to unite and be stronger than ever before. i am not starting a new party.
that was fake news. >> is that good news or bad news for the republican party, susan? >> well, first of all, he's the one who said he was considering it. so he started his own fake news, i suppose. but -- the republicans right now are in a lot of -- so we're going to see what happens. >> aisha, in case there was any lingering doubt about who controls the republican party these days, this golden statue of the former president was wheeled into cpac this week. how long will the conservative right wing cling to their false idol like this? is there a concern that it will alienate -- do they have any concern it will alienate some of the remaining moderate republicans? >> look, rev, you know, i gotta
tell you, they aren't my people so i can care less what they think and what their strategy is, frankly. i'm really anxious about what my progressives and what my democrats are going to do with the fact that despite the fact that this guy has lost an election, he is no longer president, he is still a phallic symbol, an effigy, whatever, to almost half of the voting population in this country. how is it that we move forward and figure out a path towards deeper justice, greater equality, all the values of inclusion, that we believe in despite the fact that there is this faction attempting to derail that at every pass? donald trump is certainly the figurehead of it today, but make no mistake about it. this all existed, inequity existed long before him and will be there long after him without regard to whatever the republicans are doing today. so i am always concerned about our strategy moving forward. how is it that we're going to recapture the hearts and minds
of people who are so-called decent, good people around the country that are fed up, frustrated, feeling the economic woes, supposedly, that made them line up with donald trump in the first place. how are we actually going to engage them and meet their needs, too, so they can dump trump? >> aisha, congresswoman marjorie taylor greene of georgia hung a transphobic sign outside of her office this week that said there are two genders, male and female, trust the science. setting aside the fact that's not what science actually says about gender, is this all the republican party is now, just dedicated to hateful stunts? >> rev, this is all the republican party has been for some time. look, i was on the front lines of the marriage equality movement almost from day one, really, for years and years i fought for marriage equality. i fought against these nasty bigots on the right. their m.o. has always been to try to debunk science and to
defame people who told the truth. you know, and it's all the same playbook over and over and over again. the nasty enough, the fact that she would even attack a colleague in this way who is really representing her own child who is transgender. this is personal. this is about people's families. and the audacity of her to attack someone's child, like, this is where they have always been. they're nasty and they're vile. it's nothing brand-new. >> a sign on the wall of the capitol at that. let me go back to you, susan. donald trump's estranged niece, mary trump, was on with my colleague, ali velshi, this morning. with this look into the former president's state of mind. >> donald knows that joe biden is now president of the united states. however, what he can't wrap his head around is the fact that he lost. because psychologically, in my
family, certainly according to my grandfather, losing was absolutely the worst thing you could do. >> if losing was the worst thing the trump family could think of, does the republican party like it, because this man lost the popular vote twice, the house, and the senate. why are the republicans still lining up behind him if they are in any way like the trumps, don't like losing? he's a loser. >> because they want to hold on and win primaries, rev. that's what it all comes down to. it comes down to winning a primary. donald trump does not win general elections for anybody else. he won it for himself once, but he lost two senate seats in georgia. that was unthinkable. but because he always puts himself ahead of everyone else. so it's not surprising that losing is unbearable for the trump family. what's worse is the lashing out
that this man does after he loses. and that's his real danger, as we hear him spewing lies right now at cpac. >> now, as he's going through this at cpac, and it gets the right wing covering him all over again, susan, will those that have stood up against him, those few moderate republicans, will you feel that they will be targeted directly with primaries? because we're hearing that some that have visited the former president trump at mar-a-lago, he says he's going after this one or that one. do you feel that thep, whatever, is really going to focus or will this be trump without his twitter apparatus, will this be trump trying to find ways to demonize those republicans he disagrees with or he feels has not been sufficiently loyal to him? >> well, rev, he has a couple
hundred million dollars in a pac that he's ready to use, and i think he will go after those people he thought, you know, voted against him, which they didn't. they vote for the constitution. let's be clear about that. that's what they voted for. but donald trump doesn't see it that way. and i do not think that the republican party, as the national gop, will do as much to go after those sitting republicans as donald trump does. but to those people who challenge sitting republicans, with donald trump's support, remember, he just cares about beating someone he doesn't like. he doesn't care if you win. >> all right. aisha mills and susan del percio, thank you both for being with us. >> up next, we'll talk vaccine hesitancy within communities of color. hopefully, my next guest and myself can convince you to get your shot. we'll be right back. (vo) last year subaru and our retailers
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it is disproportionately affecting us, and if we want to get control of this virus that is harming us at a disproportionate rate, part of it is to get vaccinated when it is our turn. >> vice president kamala harris acknowledging in our exclusive "politics nation" interview this week that, yes, the black community has born the brunt of
covid-19. but we still have to be ready when it's our turn to get vaccinated. as for me, i kept my promise to the vice president. early thursday morning, i went to harlem, new york, and got my first covid shot. i was accompanied by other clergy and ministers to mptance vaccine. i did it. and so can yo me now is ebony carrington, ceo of new york city health and hospitals. in addition to acknowledging the disproportionately impacting of covid in the black community, the vice president was candid about the community's historical distrust of mass medicine. take a listen because i want to get your reaction to this. >> there's a righteous skepticism, if you know history. but i promise you, and i am
telling you, this vaccine is safe. >> now i want to save my question on logistis because that's another conversation, but as you heard that from the vice president, what do you find to be your biggest hurdle in terms of messaging and fostering trust in the vaccine? >> thank you for having me, reverend sharpton, and thank you for your question. the biggest issue that we have seen at the hospital and really in numerous talks we have had in the community is the mistrust of vaccine efficacy. the perception is that the vaccine was rushed, there are many individuals that perceive more time to have elapsed before they partake in being inoculated. and why we're talking today is we don't have that sort of time. what the vice president spoke about is absolutely real. there is a legitimate and very dark history of medical experimentation in this country. there is a resistance and reluctance to trust research and
sponsored projects. however, this is not that. much of that research was about withholding treatment, about using placebos, and really experimenting with people of color. and this is waymaking. this is our opportunity to level the playing field and to stop and really mitigate the disproportionate death and our susceptibility to die from covid-19. >> and there's exaggeration of side effects, different people, i'm sure, you know better than i, react differently, but i took mine thursday morning there at harlem hospital. i went on to my office, worked all day, did my three-hour daily radio show, three or four meetings that night, got up the next morning, worked out before dawn, i didn't feel any side effects. i think people should really deal with this for themselves and there may be some minimum side effects, but they should not be paralyzed by fear because the alternative is you could
really face a real problem if you come down with this covid-19 virus, or if you infect someone else. >> absolutely. not taking the vaccine is a real gamble with what covid can do to you, and people have the incorrect perception that if they are healthy or strong or if they do not have pre-existing conditions that they can really get past covid. and that is something that has not been proven. we know for a fact that covid-19 is something that has ravaged healthy people and communities of color, we have been disproportionately impacted, and what you have seen is death. we have seen morgue trucks, three and four, outside of our hospitals, so what you should expect by way of side effects, and i happen to not be symptomatic, either, after the vaccine. i had no side effects, nor did my mother. however, several people have said they have flu-like symptoms, that they have felt luchargic or they have chilled, even rigors, but that's all short in duration.
if you feel badly, even if you have flu-like symptoms, you're tired and fatigues, then you sleep longer than you have before, you'll wake up the next morning on the journey to protection. you'll wake up knowing the next day and the days thereafter, you will not succumb to covid, and that's what's most important. knowing you may have the chills or knowing you may have some sniffles or malaise is very different than gambling with what could happen from covid-19. and by way of brief background, we had a 43-year-old hispanic woman with no pre-existing conditions at the hospital that succumbed to her illness. she left a 1-year-old and a 3-year-old behind because she was not vaccinated. we know you don't die from covid-19 when you get the vaccine. that's what we have to continue to share with people. we know there is death associated to the tune of 500,000 americans. most of which looked like us. that died from covid-19. and we have not seen that happen with the vaccine, so the real question is what are you waiting for? and be participatory in offsetting the disparities that many of us in health care have
fought to overcome. >> now, as i got into it with governor murphy of new jersey at the top of the show, we know that from the data, for whatever reasons, the vaccine has been inequitably distributed by race and ethnicity. here in new york state, 78% of white residents have received at least one dose. for black residents, it's just under 8%, and latinx, just over 9%. here in new york city, more than half of white residents have received at least one dose. for black residents, it's 15%. latinx, about hospital adminis what could states and federal government be doing to get more black people to vaccine sites? >> i think making the vaccines accessible in communities that they trust, making sure that they are in small primary care practices, in pharmacies, as we
heard the vice president talk about, i was so excited to hear about really a very appropriate grassroots strategy with people of color. you have to have credible messengers communicate to people who are reluctant. they're rightfully reluctant. they understand and appreciate what's happened in the past, but now people they trust in places that are close and nearby have to be able to be available for them to get vaccine. so at harlem frankly, when we saw the people coming for appointments, that they did not look like the demographic we serve, we had to make room. we talked with senior centers, we partnered with the naacpw the harlem advocates for seniors, we wanted to make sure everyone who wanted it could get it, and the tech platforms and lack of high-speed internet and lack of people who potentially could be on the robo websites, that was limited for them. we went to them in the housing projects. we went to them where they were, and i would say i'm not seeing
hesitancy as much as i'm seeing a lack of access. i'm proud that i have a wait list of people who are saying get me in there, and so that's why we have made manual appointments for some folks, because when you want it, we're going to get it here. >> and i know there's even all kinds of places to deal with this accessaccessibility. i went and did mine. i went with choose healthy life. many people are digging in but people have to respond. thank you for being here. i encourage all of you, plan your vaccine so you'll be ready when it's your turn. follow the information right there on your screen. all right. up next, my final thoughts. stay with us. next, my final ths stay with us want to make a name for yourself in gaming? then make a name for yourself. even if your office, and bank balance are... far from glamorous. that means expensing nothing but pizza.
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that does it for me. thanks for watching. i'll see you back here next weekend at 5:00 p.m. eastern. first, some changes to our sunday evening lineup. starting tonight at 8:00 p.m. eastern, join medi his new show. he's have news of the day, insightful reporting and proeping interviews. then at 9:00 p.m. eastern, joshua johnson breaks down the week that was and looks to the