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air force reserve. that seems nice and super patriotic, and we're guessing putin was grateful because as journalist and aviation expert tyler rogaway was quick to point out, your birthday wish celebratesit on in 34 years in service with the russian air force. indeed they are right again. it's the unmistakable profile, of the 34 russian fighter, and it's forward stabilizing, it's also pointed out today it's not even the logo here for the reserve. this is. at least the air force reserve here in the united states. she has taken down this tweet and replaced and she serves in the united states senate. that's all for our forecast this wednesday, night thanks for being here with us on behalf of all of our colleagues at the network, goodnight.
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>> this is a live look at brooklyn center minnesota tonight, where protests are expected tonight for a fourth straight evening. this is all happening after a 20 year old man named dante wright was shot and killed by burglar son in police officer during a traffic stop on sunday. that officer resigned from the forest yesterday. as did the police chief in brooklyn center. today prosecutors arrested the officer charged with manslaughter in the second degree, but we will keep eyes on brooklyn center tonight, as we have for the last few nights. there have been several dozen arrests, each of the last few nights. it has been very heated confrontation between local residents and the police. including a lot of projectiles thrown. tonight there is a curfew in effect. in brooklyn center minnesota, it starts at 10 pm local time which is 11 pm eastern.
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you can see things get tense there, particularly at nightfall. i should also tell you there's an increased presence of national guard troops in the area tonight. about 2000 troops, were deployed in the minneapolis area for the last two nights. but as of today that has been increased by 50%. we are expecting more like 3000 national guard troops in the streets there tonight. we will have a live report coming up. from brooklyn center minneapolis area later tonight, we'll keep eyes on what's expected to be a fourth night of protest. but we start tonight, with a story that you may not know, about someone you have seen before is a guest on this show. someone who has been a guest on this show is a reporter, pulitzer prize-winning reporter talking about some of the justice department most recently. none of that would necessarily
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give you any inkling as to just where he has been, what he has been through, or what he in fact literally escaped from. here it is in his own words. quote, the cars and jim roared, as the gunmen punched the accelerator and we accosted into the open desert, another gunman in the passenger seat turned and stared us as a gripped his rifle. no one spoke. i glanced at the bleak landscape outside, reddish soil and black boulders as far as the eye could see. i feared we would be dead within minutes. it was november 10th and i've been heading to a meeting with the taliban commander along with an afghan journalist and our driver. the commander had invited us to interview him outside of kabul for reporting an afghanistan and pakistan. the longer i looked at the gunman in the passenger seat, the more nervous i became, his facial little emotion, his eyes were dark flat and lifeless. i thought of my wife and family and was overcome with shame. an interview that seemed
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crucial hours earlier seemed absurd and reckless. we reached a dry riverbed in the car stopped. they're going to kill us, to hear my journalist color whispered. they're going to kill us. the new york times published that account by pulitzer prize-winning reporter david rohde, in the fall of 2009. it was the story of what he had been through over the course of the previous year. the previous november, november 2000, a less than a week after the u.s. election where barack obama was elected, david rohde and his two afghan colleagues, a fellow journalist and a driver were kidnapped outside of kabul. they were held by the taliban for seven months in ten days. before road and his journalist colleagues finally figured out a way to escape. in flee into the night. david rohde at that time was already a pulitzer prize-winning journalist. and, once wrote escaped and got away from the taliban, his editor back at the new york
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times was interviewed back in the united states, about would everybody was not learning about what happened in david rohde. his editor was bewildered to report at the time, to tell nbc news of the time, that one of the first things that david rohde did after escaping from his taliban kidnappers and getting himself to safety, after seven plus months in captivity, one of the first things he did, after getting himself free, was to send an email to his editor at the new york times, because he had some corrections that he wanted to see in a story the times it just published. >> we begin with news of an incredible escape by an american held hostage by the taliban for more than seven months. david rohde, pulitzer prize-winning reporter for the new york times was kidnapped in afghanistan in november. friday night he and another man reportedly climbed over a wall of the compound where they were being held, and fled to safety. we >> were taken prisoner on november 10th. it makes it 222 days with my
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count in captivity. we had periodic contact, with david himself, or with the kidnappers. but we're still long periods of time where we didn't have information, and it was scary. there were certainly times when we wondered whether they had been killed. we had no idea what the outcome was going to be, and in the end, it may just have been that david had an opportunity, jumped the wall and got away. i had a brief email from him today, because after seven months in captivity, he's still a report, or anyone online and read the story that we row about his escape, and he had a few small corrections that he wanted to make them. he sounds good, he sounds healthy. he's completely exhausted but also exhilarated in relieved.
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>> incredible, that was bill keller of the new york times. he just married him two months before the kidnapping, the fans of family is grateful to everyone who helped. >> he had a few small corrections that he wanted to make, so he sent me an email. imagine having the presence of mind, after being kidnapped and held hostage by the taliban for a better part of a year, imagine having the presence of mind to get out and immediately contact your editor and sent some and it's to the paper to make sure the story that is right. as i said, ultimately david rohde would write the full story himself, of what had happened to him. in a six part series for the times. explaining his kidnapping, his captivity, how they survived, a desperate escape, he and his afghan journalist colleague used a card toro that david rohde had found. and then hid in a pile of old clothes, that hoping they could use it to escape. they use that tow rope to fling
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themselves over a perimeter wall, it was about five feet wall on their side of it, so it was a 20 foot drop on the other side. they dropped down into his sewage ditch on the other side of it, they ultimately fled into the night in presented themselves at a local militia base. in the middle of the night. he and his colleague walk up to this militia base, and the guards on duty were absolutely convinced that these two guys, showing up in the middle of the night looking like hell, absolutely convinced they were foreign suicide bombers showing up in the middle of the night to kill them all. this is our road described it. i held my hands high in the air, and they're not move an inch. a nervous card could shoot is dead as we stood in the street, with my long beard, scarf and clothes i looked like a foreign suicide bomber, not a foreign journalist. another voice came from inside the building, it sounded as if the guard was waking up his comrades. one or two more figures appeared on the roof and aims more gun barrels at us. the guard on the roof
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intermittently spoke -- i heard to here say the words for journalist. and afghan. and american. so my arms began to burn, i struggled to slow my breathing. i desperately tried to not move my hands. i told career tell them we will take off our shirts, thanking the guards my fear that we were suicide bombers with a vest of explosives. tahrir said something and the man responded, lift up your shirt, i immediately obliged. the guard spoke again, he's asking if you're an american, i'm an american journalist i said in english. surprised at the sound of my own voice in the open air. please help us, please help us. i kept talking hoping they would recognize that i was a native english speaker. i said we were kidnapped by the taliban seven months ago. we were kidnapped outside of kabul and brought here. i said to you speak english? hoping one of the guards on the roofs understood. do you speak english? the guard said something to tie here. to hear said, they are
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radio-ing their commander. they are asking for permission to bring us inside. he pleaded with the guards to protect us under the traditional honor code, which required -- to give shelter to any stranger who asks. he begged them to take us inside the base before the taliban came looking for us. about two or three minutes past, the guards stood behind sandbags on the roof. above us, stars glittered in a peaceful crystal clear sky. for the first time that night it occurred to me, that we might actually succeed. escape, and ending i never dreamed of. it might be our salvation. he says quote, i held my hands still. and waited. for the whole time that david rohde was being held captive by the taliban, the new york times is employer kept quiet about. it in hopes that keeping out of the press making it not public, keeping it from become becoming public, would increase the odds that he would survive. and he did survive, and his
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survival, his escape, is just a remarkable story of resilience and luck, and keeping your head in unimaginable circumstances. even when they drag on and on and on. some but it is also stuck with me, not because of what it says about david rohde, but because of what it showed us all, in very starkly human small terms. would it showed us all about the core impossibility, at the heart of the u.s. war in afghanistan. the core strategic impossibility. because what we won there for, obviously, was to depose the taliban. as this sensible leaders of got in a stand. to get them out of power, to punish them for giving the al-qaeda terrorists move a haven. a client a launch the 9/11 attacks against us, in the u.s. invasion push the taliban out of power in afghanistan.
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to punish them for the actions of al-qaeda. and to prevent them from harboring al-qaeda again. or any other transnational terrorist entity that could threaten the united states again in the same way in the future. i say it that bluntly because that is explicitly in the authorization for the use of military force that congress passed after 9/11, that has been used as a justification for the ongoing u.s. were there ever since. for the two decades. but it's to posing the taliban, taking them out of power, was step one, step two was never all that clear. the overall idea, was to keep the taliban, from returning to power, by standing up a different afghan government that could govern the country and hold the taliban obey, that could defend itself against the taliban. u.s. and coalition forces say state in that country for two decades trying to make that happen. fighting the taliban directly asked but also trying to stand
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up and support an afghan government in afghan security forces to fight and resist the taliban themselves. but if you look at this of a human level. look back to what happened to david rohde. and his two afghan colleagues back in 2000 in 2009. they were kidnapped, while on their way to interview a taliban commander. that taliban commander had been interviewed by western journalist in the past, but for whatever reason he decided he would double crossed them and kidnap them instead of giving you them their interview. in wood david rohde was able to piece together from captivity, what he would later write about for the times, was the fact that only for the first week that he was kidnapped, only for the first week, that the taliban was holding him, only for the first week where they in afghanistan. after just one week, they took him and his colleagues across the afghan border into pakistan. and that's where they kept him. they kept him in a series of different houses and hobbles in pakistan. for the better part of a year.
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before he was able to escape. they kept he and his colleagues in a taliban safe zone basically in pakistan. where, as he observed, from captivity, he could see that the militant group, the taliban did as they pleased. they basically ran the place. and from which they ran all of their operations in both countries. in both pakistan and afghanistan. so just think about that in terms of what that means for strategy. in terms that what that means for the point of what the american government american military is doing in afghanistan. there's a big u.s.-led war next door, against the taliban, in afghanistan. except that enemy that the u.s. was fighting in afghanistan, had another place they lived. and worked in planned most of their work. it's like if you are trying to lose weight, and so you kept dieting and dieting in cutting back on your portion sizes and your meals, being super disciplined all day long about eating well and never snacking,
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but then it turns out every night you sleep walk into the kitchen engorged on everything in the fridge. doesn't necessarily matter what's happening during the day of that's what's happening during night. same thing strategically in drastically oversimplified terms, in this 20 years of war. knocking the taliban out of power in afghanistan, defeating them in some kind of larger war, preventing them from ever rising again in afghanistan, that was something that a large u.s. military conflicts in afghanistan was never going to be able to do. >>. . . .
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the exact same place the exact same room that president bush stood in, when he announced the start of the afghan war nearly 20 years ago. joe biden was there today to announce the end of that war. >> we cannot continue this cycle, of extending or expanding our military presence in afghanistan, hoping to create ideal conditions, for the withdrawal and expecting a different result. i'm now the fourth united states president, to preside over american troop presence in afghanistan. to republicans, to democrats. i will not pass this responsibility on to a fifth. it's time to end america's longest war. it's time for american troops to come home. we went to afghanistan because of a horrific attack that happened 20 years ago. that cannot explain why we should remain there in 2021. rather than return to war with
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the taliban, we have to focus on the challenges that are in front of us. i'm the first president in 40 years, who knows what it means to have a child serving in a war zone. and throughout this process, my north star has been remembering what it was like when my late son beau was deployed to iraq. how proud he was to serve his country. how >> insistent he was to deploy with his unit. and the impact it had on him. and all of us at home. we already have first service members in afghanistan today whose parents served in the same war. we have service members who are not yet born on when our nation was attacked on 9/11. war in afghanistan was never meant to be a multi generational entity. we were attacked, we went to war with clear goals. we achieved those objectives. bin laden is dead and al-qaeda
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is degraded in afghanistan. and it's time to end the forever war. thank you all for listening. may god protect our troops. may god bless all those families who lost someone in this endeavor. >> president biden speaking today from the same room where president president george bush started the afghan war under day 20 years ago. the secretary general of nato said all the nato troops will leave afghanistan on the same timeframe as united states. that means all u.s. troops and nato troops will be out by september 11th of this year. presidents remarks were also followed today by the president himself going to arlington national cemetery, to pay his respects to the 2004 and 80 americans killed in the war thus far. he was asked by a reporter at arlington if the decision that he announced today was a hard call?
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this is what he said. >> i am always amazed at generation after generation, the women and men prepared to give their lives for their country. look at them all. >> was a hard decision to make, sir? >> no it wasn't. to me it was absolutely color. absolutely clear. >> absolutely clear. he said it was absolutely clear. george w. bush actually tried to and the u.s. war in afghanistan after he started it. the obama administration. president obama deliberated long and hard about what to do in afghanistan. his vice president joe biden argued, often without many allies in the administration, that it was time to fully get u.s. troops out. he did not win the argument
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back then and troops did not leave under president obama. but now today, joe biden is president. and he hasn't made that decision. and it's a firm decision and it's not conditioned. it's a date by which u.s. troops will be gone. he said today, it was not her decision. he said it was absolutely clear. a war with the taliban hey, our view today, is not worth more than 20 years and thousands of american lives we've already put into it. pulitzer prize-winning journalist david rohde spent more than seven months been held hostage by the taliban. he escaped, he wrote wrote about his captivity. today, hearing the president speak i thought about the service members and military families that i know who have served in afghanistan, how they're feeling today. i office also thought of david rohde. david rohde joins us now. his most recent book is in deep, the fbi, the cia and the truth
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about america's deep state. david, it's a real honor to have you with us tonight. thank you for making time. >> thank you, rachel. i'm amazed by that introduction. thank you. >> well, it's always, i've always been start of stunned by what you've been through. and how you've put yourself together again and got up and continued with what has been an astonishing career. david, i just wanted to ask you this on a personal level, what you've been through? given these unique set of circumstances and that ordeal, how do you feel about the president ending the war today? >> i feel relief. and what really struck me and impressed me about what you took away from my story is, the impossibility of winning this war because of the role of pakistan. and as long as pakistan continues to give the path taliban a safe haven, the place where i was held for seven months, it's an impossible were to win. i fear for my afghan friends.
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we're going to talk more about that. they're friends i'm trying to get out of kabul. by think 20 years is enough if pakistan is going to continue to do this, it's time to leave. >> in terms of the worst-case scenario, obviously this is a controversial decision the president is announcing. i think the fact that he's announcing it so definitively. he's not carrying on a public process where he's weighing his options. he's just saying what he's going to do. i think we'll circumscribe the debate somewhat. we all saw her today including from people who say the taliban will now ascend, if not in all of gas can esteemed, then the afghan gunman government has never -- there will be human rights disaster in the country of a different kind. then what we've seen there during the 20 years of war. how do you -- i want to talk specifically about afghans who have helped americans in afghanistan.
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setting that aside for a moment, thinking about the worst-case scenario, what do you make of the prospects? and whether the u.s. has off options to stop them? >> the prospects are terrible. the taliban carried out a series of targeted assassinations last year that killed over 100 doctors, humanitarian workers and journalists, afghan women's rights activists. it is right to pull out u.s. troops. but it's also right to vastly increase the number of visas were going to give to those afghans who fought shoulder to shoulder with american forces. my friends who are journalists. to hear the jen afghan journalists who saved my life. he's out of afghanistan by his relatives aren't. so i have many afghan friends who are terrified. so the right thing to do is to get them to united states to help our allies. 150,000 afghans have died since 2001. 40,000 of them are civilians. that's compared to 2500
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americans. so, those afghans who fought alongside american troops, we need to help them get out while they can. >> do you have confidence that the u.s. government can do that? i know that in the aftermath of the u.s. leaving iraq, and then ultimately, somewhat re-deploy into iraq, afghan and iraq veterans service members, advocated fiercely and relentlessly that iraqis who had helped the u.s. in that conflict should get visas. and should be brought home and their family should be protected. an american promises to them should be upheld. did we learn anything from any of the failures to do that in iraq? that makes you have any confidence that the u.s. government might be better on
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this time it towards the afghans as we try to do this now? >> i don't have much confidence. there was a long running insulin phobia in this country. we can bring afghans here, we can vet them safely. the vast majority of them that have come here are peaceful. i would call on the biden administration, it's a bold move, but president biden i applaud it. he needs to show how our immigration system can. work he need to vastly increase the number of afghans rollout come here in these very few months that exists. he needs that them. i think it's his responsibility. we cannot just walk away from this. it's a dangerous situation. it could be like you said, the islamic state, after u.s. troops pulled out of iraq. they took control of much of iraq. and u.s. troops could be back in six months. by do think this is the right step. but we must help get our afghan allies out of the country. try. >> pulitzer prize-winning reporter david rohde, now
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executive editor of new york .com. david, thank you for your time and insight again tonight. your experience there is unique and something that i think everybody has learned from. thank you for being willing to talk to us tonight. >> thank you. thanks so much. >> all right, we've got much more to get to tonight on this historic day in the news. as i mentioned at the top, we are keeping an eye on brooklyn center minnesota. protests tonight over the police killing of 20 year old dante wright on sunday. this fourth night of protests is underway right now as night falls in minnesota. we've got reporters on the ground describing the situation there as mostly peaceful but tense right now. we'll be checking in with them and more. ahead, stay with us.
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pages of newsprint. it says at the top, we stand for democracy. for american democracy to work for any of, us we must ensure the right to vote for all of us. we should all feel a responsibility to defend the right to vote, and to oppose any discriminatory legislation or measures that restrict or prevent any eligible voter from having an equal and fair opportunity to cast a ballot. this is a big ad, like i said spread across two full pages of print. and it ran today in the new york times. it also ran the washington post. in this is not an ad taken out by a progressive voting rights group, where the naacp, the this is with the list of signatories look like under
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that pro voting rights statement. target. bank of america. apple. berkshire partners. american express. wells fargo. also the chair women in chairwoman and ceos of those and many other big, really big corporations. some of the biggest companies in the country. so yes, the fight to get corporate america off the sidelines, to get them to push to defend democracy and voting rights as we are experiencing the biggest rollback in voting rights in more than a generation, as republican controlled states, tried to clip voting rights everywhere they can. that fight to get corporate america involved in defending american democracy, this big show forced in the times today is a big win. given the size and the heft of those corporations. but, at the same time, it's not like corporate america is
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speaking with one voice on this issue. the wall street journal now reporting that the u.s. chamber of commerce, the main lobbying of big business, the chamber of commerce simultaneously has decided it will pressure u.s. senators to vote against hr one. before the people act. the big national voting rights bill that is already passed the house. and is now pending before the senate. it'll be interesting to see how that lobbying effort goes. there's so many really big american businesses, are waiting into this fight. saying they support voting rights. they all say they support voting rights. the u.s. chamber of commerce is telling u.s. senators, as the chamber of commerce, we want you to vote against voting rights. how is that going to result? against that conflicted backdrop today, we saw president biden's nominee civil rights division, kristen clark, we saw her testify before the senate judiciary committee, on her way to taking that all important job, if confirmed was she will be the first african american woman to lead this
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division in the entire 64-year history of the civil rights division. senator republicans, spent the whole day berating her over all the things that she see in her record as an accomplished and on controversial civil rights lawyer. just did they tried to do for president biden's nominee for the number three job in the department of justice, who also happens to be an accomplished progressive woman of color. incidentally the first vote in the full senate on pooped is confirmation is scheduled for tomorrow. she's expected to be confirmed in a final vote next week, even though republicans have done their best against her. just like she does, there's no reason to believe that kristen clark will not be confirmed, to run the civil rights commission, despite the grilling she got from senators, if she is confirmed that will step the country at one step closer to having a justice department that leads the way in fighting to protect the voting rights across the country. whether the business community is going to be a ally and that
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fight, does sort a scene like a dropped ball at this point. joining us now is the president and director of the naacp legal defense education fund, thanks so much for making time. >> thank you rachel. when we ask you first about the kristen clark nomination. you have been an outspoken proponent at kristen clark is the right person for this job, and she should be confirmed by the senate. her confirmation hearing marked by republican's doing a fox news, pageant acting out, fox news primetime arguments against her, she is the real racist, and she's controversial. what do you make about this process is far in her prospects of being confirmed? >> rachel i have to say that i thought kristen clark with masterful today. she is not a tv lawyer, she's a real lawyer. and so she was really able to
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defend her record. she has an astonishing career as a civil rights lawyer, leading the civil rights bureau at the new york state attorney generals office. she of course was a lawyer at the naacp legal defense fund. be to the lawyers committee for civil rights under law. work at the department of justice for six years. and so she comes to it with tremendous experience. but today what people could see, was the intelligence, the poise, the confidence and really she could not be shaken. it's unfortunate and we should be thinking ourselves, we should be grateful that someone like miss clark is willing to serve. particularly at this time in this country when we need someone with her kind of vision, and clarity and commitment. to really lead as you say, in the enforcement of the nation civil rights laws, and to really address the crisis of civil rights that were in at this moment in the country.
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>> part of the crisis, or at least the confrontation we're having right now in the country, is over the crucial issue of voting rights, and voter suppression tactics that seem aimed quite specifically a african american voters, other voters of color. poor voters, other people who can be cut off from the poles, if this voter suppression legislation is written just the right way. in order to accomplish that goal. what do you make right now sherrilyn, about the push me pull you happening with corporate america. with business interests, that are starting to speak out, including in this remarkable ad today in the new york times and washington post. trying to find their voice, as supporters of democracy. importers of the right to vote, while simultaneously seeing things like the u.s. chamber of commerce, lobbying u.s. senators to vote against the most important voting rights bill that we've seen in a very long time? >> you know rachel i'm actually
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quite crumble with this discomfort. because what we are seeing is a real shakeup happening in corporate america, as i have been appearing in speaking with business leaders and business groups, i have been telling them that we are in a democracy moment, there was one crisis that we could see, on january 6th, because it was filled with violence, because it was there on our tv screens, and we could all feel the sense of america slipping away, from being a stable democracy. but i want to be clear that the voters suppression laws, that they want to pass in georgia, that are being proposed in texas, that just passed in arkansas, modeled on georgia, giving criminalizing giving food and water to people in voting. in south carolina we just submitted testimony today, in opposition to the south carolina voting suppression bill, this is as much a threat, to the integrity of our democracy as january 6th was. because it's, as the supreme court has said, the right to vote is preservatives of all, writes it's fundamental. in the state by state attack,
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we sign attack on the capital on january six, now we're seeing a state-by-state attack on voting. and it's going to require all of us to stand up and speak powerfully for democratic principles, and that includes corporate america. they don't get to be by standards. and this is a moment of reckoning in which corporate america is going to have to tell the rest of the country, whether democracy is something that they are agnostic, about whether it's not necessary to the business model of american corporations, or whether they believe, as citizens, and corporations as you know, actually receive lots of rights as citizens by the united states supreme court, if you are citizen you have an obligation to stand up for our democracy. and i think the ads today, it was incredibly powerful, i do feel the need to point out that this shift, this size, makeshift this move, this destabilization, and his willingness of corporations to speak up, was led by black business leaders.
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black business executives, who first spoke out in the ad. with 72 of them signing in the new york times several weeks ago. and they listen to the voices of grassroots and community activists and national civil rights organizations, pushing back against what was happening in georgia. this is what's going to take if we're going to protect and save, and strengthen our democracy. it's going to take people moving out of their comfort zone, and being willing to stand up for the principles that should have any true democracy with integrity. >> i -- sherrilyn, it's always really good to see you. thank you for joining us. with so much going on right now in the news, if it's your area of expertise, and it's really good to have you here. thank. you >> thank you rachel. >> okay we have much more ahead here tonight. stay with us. much more ahea here tonight stay with us
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are demanding justice for him and for his family, is this. your voices have been heard. now the eyes of the world are watching brooklyn center. and i urge you to protest peacefully and without violence. let us show the best of our community. and to the wright family, i know there is nothing i can say or do that will bring daunte back. or ease your grief. but i promise you this, if death will his death will not go in vain. >> that's brooklyn center minnesota mayor mike elliott, earlier tonight calling for a peaceful protests. on what is now the fourth night of demonstrations after the
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police killing of 20 year old daunte wright on sunday. today the officer who kill daunte wright in that traffic stop was charged with second degree manslaughter in daunte wright killing. that carries a penalty of maximum ten years in prison. she's been released on $100,000 bail. her first court appearance is scheduled for tomorrow. that is the backdrop for these protests tonight in the streets of brooklyn center. joining us now from there is nbc news correspondent ron allen. ron, thanks very much for joining us tonight. i know you've been out there several nights in a row now and it's been sometimes really challenging conditions. you are using tonight? and how do you compare it to what the last few nights have been? >> well, rachel, that has been the case every night after nightfall, things get a bit more tense. and we have seen more debris, bottles, rocks going into the police compound in the last half hour or so. it's a very different crowd tonight. there's a lot of people riding
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around in cars and motorcycles, racing up and down the streets. there's also, i have to say, a lot of hostility directed towards us. towards the media. there was some of this social media are urging people to mask cameras. and that's one reason we're keeping our distance. there's been a couple incidences where photographers closer have been pushed back by some elements in the crowd. the crowd of course is very diverse. there are people here from many different reasons. but the bottom line line is that there's a lot of frustration, anger. this manslaughter charge, people feel falls very short. they wants to see a murder charge. they insist that mr. wright was murdered. killed in the streets, and that's what the charge should be. and they're also calling for in some places, leaders of the protests, they want to see a special prosecutor take over this case. an independent person appointed by the state of tierney
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general. not the local county prosecutor who has been assigned the case. they feel who is close to a law enforcement, to really prosecute this case in their way they want to see it happen. they're also today earlier, there was a group of state legislators who have a long list of reforms that they want to see past in the state. and it including an end to a qualified immunity. a change to unify all juvenile justice system. i don't want to get into the minutiae, but the point is that there are a lot of concerns here that go beyond the daunte wright case. and even beyond the george floyd case. so, when you talk to the organizers, they will tell you, these protests -- there is no end in sight to them. it's going to go on. regardless perhaps even of the outcome of the george floyd, derek chauvin case, regarding george floyd. because people here seen there is an endemic problem that's racially based with policing in
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this state. and they think that the manslaughter charge is further evidence of that. a lot of people point to the case of former officer muhammad nor, the minneapolis police officer, who back in 2017 was convicted of murder and manslaughter in the death of a white woman. a resident who called 9-1-1 and nord and his partner arrived on the scene, he opened fire from the squad car when the woman approached, thinking that he and his partner were being threatened. it was a mistaken incident they would say. but he was convicted and sentenced to 12 and a half years in prison. and people see that case and see what's happening with this white officer, and they just see a double standard. so, for so many reasons, these protests are going to continue. again, the bottom line, things are relatively calm tonight. we're still an hour or so from curfew. and that's when the police and the national guard, who have a valérie military stick presence
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here, a lot of fatigues, a lot of armored vehicles, heavy equipment, that's when they move out and try to clear the streets. and that's when we think there could be more trouble. rachel? >> ron allen for us in brooklyn center minnesota, tonight. ron, thank you for that. in terms of what iran was just referencing in terms of the curfew, the curfew in brooklyn center tonight is 10 pm local time. which is 11 pm eastern time. and again, once that curfew is in effect, people are supposed to, if they're being the curfew, clear the streets and police can use that as the pretext for clearing demonstrators away from the police station. which is where you see them there. the chain link fence that you can see there at the center of your screen where the protesters are directing their attention, that is essentially a temporary barrier that has been put up with chain link and jersey barriers, around police headquarters in brooklyn center, minnesota. it has been the focal point for
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these demonstrators for the past four nights. but again, another cold night as night falls in brooklyn center, minnesota. and plenty of people they're making their feelings known in this same site that we have seen them for the past three nights as well. we'll keep an eye on this throughout the night. we'll be right back. i was over half a million dollars in debt from medical school until i found sofi. now i'm able to live out my dream and know i won't spend the rest of my life paying off those student loans, thanks to sofi. ♪ ♪ ♪ (ac/dc: back in black) ♪
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it for us tonight, i will see you again tomorrow. now it's time for the last word lawrence o'donnell. good evening. >> good evening rachel we're going to be going live to run island once again tonight. the streets of brooklyn center minnesota, where he has just been doing invaluable work for us reporting from the streets. as he is done in the past in these kinds of situations. this is one of those weeks that we'd feel like we have lived through before. but it's new every time. >> yeah, exactly. this is now with four sustained days of protests, as we head towards

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