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trying to save his job. the city council doesn't have the power to get rid of him so they're trying to limit the influence he can have on the city. just yesterday he used graphic language, shall we say, in a live television interview when he was talking about allegations a woman made against him early e.r. there was the release of that video where he was on a drunken rant threatening to kill someone so we'll keep our eye on this. right now they're just in procedural issues. we'll see if anything happens with the mayorality of rob ford in toronto. good morning, i'm chris jansing. also the fallout of president obama's health care fix. politically he may have tamped down some of the pressure in his own party by letting americans who have had their plans cancelled keep them. >> what the president did today i think was politically right but in the long run we've got to get away from these junk, inadequate insurance programs. >> republicans still determined
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to take full advantage of the health care problems will start voting this morning on their own fix. it's called the upton bill. this proposal goes further than letting people simply keep their health insurance plans, it allows everyone to buy those cheaper, but significantly less comprehensive plans, something the administration says will essentially gut obama care. >> the legislative action that is proposed by the republicans through the upton bill is really a trojan horse. they're trying to just get in. their sole purpose for offering this amendment is not to help, it is not to fix the problem. it is to exploit the problem. >> the president will meet with ceos from the insurance industry later today to try to sort out what this means for them. some are asking if the problem really is fixed, because while the president is telling insurers they can reissue those cancelled policies, they don't have to. and states can also say no. in fact washington's insurance commissioner has already said his state will, quote, stay the
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course. let me bring in our company. anne kornblut, josh kraashar, good morning. >> good morning. >> good morning. >> obviously republicans were having a field day with the line "if you like your health care plan, you can keep it." and with this fix and 24 hours of hindsight, do you think the president helped hiss, maybe even saved obama care yesterday? >> in the short run he's obviously taking a hit as you pointed out and has been for some time. oo i think the white house saw they were doing the only thing they could do, which is make adjustments as they went along. all along we've been comparing this to previous big rollouts, medicare part d being the most recent one. so from their perspective, yes, they at least bought themselves some time if didn't save it completely. i think we won't know the ultimate fate until we see how the website is working by the deadlines that they have promised later this month. >> in fact, josh, we heard from
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a number of democrats who have been critical of the rollout who were saying the president did buy himself some time. but is the fix going to be enough? are we going to see red state democrats like mary landrieu continue to offer legislation to do something else? do we know how many democrats will vote for the upton bill today? >> you would expect several dozen if not more house democrats to go with the republican plan that the white house said would gut the essential element of obama care. and what's really striking is that democratic leaders in both the house and the senate said that obama's speech and his press conference yesterday was enough to at least buy some time. if you're talking to not just senate democrats in red states but house democrats in blue districts and swing districts and conservative districts, there are going to be a lot of democrats in the house that will be voting with this upton legislation that supposedly according to the white house guts the bill and really threatens the viability of obama care. >> do you think it's that many, several dozen?
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>> i haven't done my only personal count, i would trust josh. i don't know if it's going to be that many. we'll know in a few hours. >> let me bring in congressman charles rangel, good morning. >> hi, chris, good morning. >> how much is your caucus going to stick together? will there be several dozen democrats who vote for the upton bill? >> i don't think so. we had a meeting yesterday and those that were considering voting for it certainly were not vocal, as they were earlier before the president had made his talk. quite frankly, this is much ado about nothing because historically for the first time the united states will be joining nations that will be providing health care for all of their people. 70% of the people already have insurance is going to be improved and i'm thinking about the 40 million people who have absolutely nothing and are desperate in need. >> but the president -- but the president's decision yesterday does change the equation,
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congressman. in fact your colleague, keith ellison, said he thinks this fix undermines the law and doesn't really fix it and will never silence his critics. what do you think about what the president said? >> well, i think it was good. he should have -- he apologized a little too much for me. he should have said that he overlooked the fact that there are individuals that have insurance policy that have low benefits and high premiums and that he would have assumed, and he should not have assumed, that they would want to improve it. having said that, he's fixing it. if you want to hold on to those policies, as long as the insurance company tells you that there are better alternatives. sure we wish we had done this before and there's no question that the website's failure is something that embarrasses everybody, every american. but the whole idea is that we're losing sight of the fact that
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this is a historic bill. this is providing health care to millions of people that's whole life could be destroyed if they ever reached an illness that they could not afford to pay for. and so i -- i wish the president or his staff had done a better job in the rollout. i wish that they would say that these plans, that every insurance company knows are bad plans compared to the obama care bills. but still anybody that's about to get re-elected or not get re-elected, it's a very sense i've thing and common sense and reason is not one of the things that a political candidate have when they're up for election. so i can't deal with panic and emotion, but i can deal with a good bill that the republicans from the inception has fought it. so the upton amendment, if it was something that would repair something and make it better,
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but they are determined to sabotage this bill, to kill this bill and they openly say they want to repeal it. >> well, there's more at stake arguably than just this bill as well, or just this law. the aca. there's also the president's bigger picture and the other things he wants to get accomplished this term. let me play something else the president had to say yesterday. >> i think it's legitimate for them to expect me to have to win back some credibility on this health care law in particular and on a whole range of these issues in general. and, you know, that's on me. we fumbled the rollout on this health care law. >> you well know, congressman, that for a long time the president, whatever else was going on with issues, always had this kind of reserve of personal popularity. people really liked him, they believed him, they trusted in him. i think what they said yesterday was an acknowledgement of the polls that people don't feel
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that way any more. i wonder how concerned you are that the president has lost credibility, and it will cripple his ability not just to get these fixes in place but to move on to other issues like immigration? >> i want to believe and i truly believe that once the website starts operating efficiently and once people realize that they can get health insurance that they never had or they can get policies that are severely -- i mean actually improved that they would have lower premiums, how this thing started, it would be regarded as to how medicare was started, how social security was started, with great difficulties, but at the end of the day i don't know why there aren't more sane people saying at long last we're moving in the right direction and we're doing it under terrific opposition from people who have no plan and i don't know how to get away with the fact that if they're going to deny health care to 40
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million people, for crying out loud they should at least be able to offer an alternative. and the fact that the president did not say that those with lousy plans can keep them i think it should have been corrected, it was corrected. but we have to look at the big picture and move forward. i just wish that the spiritual community and employers who know better would get out there and tell the republicans that you shouldn't destroy, you should try to help and we should make corrections but we shouldn't do it as republicans and democrats. those people that are in intensive care units, about to get serious surgery, they don't care about something politics, they want to know what insurance coverage do they have and that's what this congress should be dealing with. >> congressman charles rangel, always good to see you. thank you. >> thank you, chris. >> and by the way, we are listening now to nancy pelosi, who is saying that this upton bill is poisonous. there you see her on the floor.
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josh, susan page pretty clearly laid it out in her piece today that it's not just health care at stake, it's the president's second term and his presidency. so i'm wondering, can he, one, win back the trust of the american people and, two, frankly get anything done if he's spending so much time trying to stop republicans from defunding or other ways hurting his signature piece of legislation? >> well, he's not going to be able to get anything else done until the health care chaos gets fixed and until the website starts working, until they can get some momentum on that front. but they also have a messaging problem because we've heard for weeks that jay carb carney and white house has been saying that these insurance plans were substandard, weren't offering and people don't want to buy them but now they're switching with this fix saying people do want to buy them and it's a political necessity to have them back on the marketplace. so there's been a lot of mixed
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messaging from the white house that will be tough to swear together. >> and your colleague, ruth mark cuss, wrote in "the washington post" wrote listening to the president thursday was painful. he acknowledged the need to win back some credibility. he fumbled the rollout of health care. he is letting down congressional democrats who took the risk of supporting obama care. although he's sometimes been slapped around a little unjustly the president said, this one is deserved all right, it's on us. can he recover? i'm sorry to say i'm not at all confident. i understand ruth's argument. on the other hand, it wasn't that long ago that we were looking at the republicans in the aftermath of the government shutdown and saying this is going to be pretty great for the democrats. look how quickly things change. could things change just as quickly for the president? >> sure. i mean, look, nobody is going to look back on this for the white house or the shutdown on the republicans and say it was their favorite or finest hour. on the other hand, things can change. to your earlier question, it's always an uphill battle to get
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anything done or to avoid stepping in some kind of big thing whether it's a scandal or something else. this is what the president will be dealing with going forward and trying to avoid seeming like a lame duck as he heads into the future years and beyond the midterms. this doesn't help his cause any. so i do think it will be harder and harder and harder for him to turn this around as time goes on. >> one more thing i just wanted to show in case you missed mitt romney this morning, he was on cbs talking about health care, the future of the gop. he also said he thinks that they need to appeal more to minorities, something that he admitted he had trouble with. but he was also asked about whether he would run again. listen, and also watch his wife, ann, very closely. >> would you run again, governor romney? >> you know, it was a fabulous experience. i love that. i'm not doing that again. >> yeah, she's not up for it
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again. it does seem like he's out there a little bit more and they called him an elder statesman. he does seem like somebody who is still itching to have some influence. >> anybody who runs for president is somebody who's itching to have some influence. it does seem like he's recovered some from the defeat and feels more comfortable being back out there again. you know, it's hard to be a former who lost. so maintaining his relevance, you know, he can do that now but once the 2016 candidates start to take the stage, it will be harder for him. >> josh, is there a place for him in the republican party? >> i doubt it and i think he's glad he's not president having to deal with the situations although he was certainly opposed to the health dare law. if he was president he'd have a tough time dealing with all of the problems president obama is facing. >> josh, anne, great to see both of you. have a great weekend. we're continuing to follow breaking news from toronto where the city council is meeting to decide what do you do about the mayor. rob ford in the chamber right now. they have been talking with how the city might move forward if
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he were to step down. the council's powers are very limited because they can't remove the mayor from office. rob ford has been in the limelight for some time now for all the wrong reasons, including his recent admission that he smoked crack cocaine and then there was yesterday's profane outburst while he was talking to reporters. we are keeping our eye on proceedings and will update you as events progress. and right now on the house floor, again, debate over a gop bill designed to side step a key part of the president's health care law. we'll ask one republican lawmaker in the house about his support for the measure next. a g what makes you different is what makes us different. we take the time to get to know you and your unique health needs. then we help create a personalized healthcare experience that works for you. and you. and you. with 50 years of know-how, and a dedicated network of doctors, health coaches, and wellness experts, we're a partner you can rely on -- today, and tomorrow. we're going beyond insurance
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we continue to follow the debate going on right now in the house on the upton bill which will allow insurers to continue to sell health care plans even if they don't meet obama care
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standards. the white house is promising a veto, putting out a statement that says the bill rolls back the progress made by allowing insurers to continue to sell new plans that deploy practices such as not offering coverage for people with pre-existing conditions, charging women more than men, and continuing yearly caps on the amount of care that enrollees receive. joining me now, republican congressman cory gardner of colorado. congressman, good morning. >> good morning, thank you for having me on. >> will you vote for the upton bill? >> i will be voting for the upton bill today. i believe the only thing it rolls back is the president's broken promise. we're simply trying to make sure the president keeps his word to the american people. >> is it in fact, though, are you arguing seriously this is an attempt for fix obama care or is it an attempt to gut it? >> this is an attempt to help the president keep his word. time and time and time again, he and his administration said if you liked your health care plan, you could keep your health care plan. this bill that we will pass today gives the president a legislative opportunity to do
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just that. >> he did say yesterday that he was making changes that would allow people like you, because as i understand it, you were showing a cancellation notice. >> that's right. >> for health care. you chose when you came to congress not to accept the congressional health care plan so you got a cancellation notice. won't this allow you to restore your health insurance? >> well, we'll see what happens. we'll see what happens if the insurance commissioners allow this to take place. you know, the national association of insurance commissioners yesterday said that they need legislative certainty. they don't need white house letterhead, they need legislative solution. what we are doing today is providing a legislative fix. these are the kinds of things that congress is supposed to be doing, that congress is constitutionally bound to be doing. letters from the white house to change big laws, a law that's turned into a big lemon simply won't work. >> one person's fix is another person's financial disaster, however, because what this will do is allow new policies to go forward that don't do many of
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the important things that obama care does. let me just play a little clip from the president yesterday. >> there are a whole bunch of things about it that are working really well. which people didn't notice. because they weren't controversial. so making sure kids could stay on their parents' plans until they were -- up through the age of 25 and making sure that seniors got more discounts on their prescription drugs. >> in addition, you can't cancel people for pre-existing conditions, no annual or lifetime limits, new preventive services at no cost. do you not support these things? because the upton plan would mean that those don't have to be offered. >> well, the upton plan would allow people to keep their health plans that they'd like. it would give the choice to millions of americans who don't have their plans cancelled but could choose from an insurance that will work far better than what we have seen obama care work better right now. look, i have a letter in my hand from a constituent of mine in eastern colorado.
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he had a policy similar to what we had and it was cancelled. he was saying $600. his premium is going to $1,000 and when they have their third child it's going up to $1400 a month. that's not working for him, not working for millions of americans and it's time this president work with congress to stop the harm his bill is putting upon the american people. >> republicans in the house have voted 46 times for repeal obama care. i just spoke to congressman charlie rangel, and here's what he told me. >> i can deal with a good bill that the republicans from the inception has fought it. so the upton amendment, if it was something that would repair something and make it better, but they are determined to sabotage this bill, to kill this bill and they openly say they want to repeal it. >> there are a lot of people, congressman, in your own district who don't have health care coverage. i think i've got the numbers here. 102,000 people who are uninsured, more than 18,000 of them under the age of 18.
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so if not obama care, what are you proposing? >> well, it's 250,000 people in colorado who have lost their insurance thanks to obama care. in fact there are more people in colorado who have lost their health insurance than have signed up for obama care across this country. the president's bill is not working and it's time that we replace it with something that will work. that's why i support legislative solutions like the american health care reform act, ideas that will actually allow people to improve their insurance policies by increasing the quality of care, decreasing the cost of care and we'll continue to put those ideas and solutions forward. but what's happening around the country is the president's promises are being broken left an right. if you like your doctor, you're going to be able to keep it. we are seeing where this is not true. if you like your health care plan, we're seeing that isn't true. tell a skpconstituent of mine t it would lower the cost of health care because he's seeing a massive increase thanks to obama care. >> well, we'll wait and see as this moves forward.
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president obama's top advisers are pushing back on comparisons to george w. bush, whose second term was bogged down by plummeting approval ratings and questions about competency. crystallized in this now infamous moment in the weeks after hurricane katrina. >> i want to thank you all for -- and brownie, you're doing a heck of a job. the fema director is working 24/7. >> now at the white house yesterday president obama acknowledged that the problem-plagued rollout of obama care has impacted his second-term agenda. >> am i going to have to do some work to rebuild confidence around some of our initiatives? yeah. but part of this job is the things that go right, you guys aren't going to write about. the things that go wrong get prominent attention.
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that's not unique to me as president and i'm up to the challenge. >> let's bring in former democratic senator blanch lincoln and kay bailey hutchison. good to see both of you. senator lincoln, there's a new gallup poll that finds fewer than half of americans say president obama is a strong and decisive leader. and the drop during this obama care controversy has been pretty swift. how does he turn it around? >> well, he makes things right. this has been a fiasco. the rollout has been truly a fiasco. no legislation is perfect, but the promises made must be kept and that's got to happen. but i also think that things would have been different had we done this in a bipartisan way. i heard joe scarborough say it used to be a good thing to work across the aisle. many of us worked to make the health care bill a bipartisan bill. now there would be better good will to correct the things that we didn't get right and that's what happens.
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i worked very hard with president bush when he did roll out, i was one of the 11 or 12 democrats that voted for the medicare part d proposal from president bush and we worked hard to make it right. there were difficulties in the rollout and we went back to our states and worked with the president and administration and ended up with a good plan and something that worked for seniors. >> senator hutchinson, at this point in his presidency, only 37% approved of the job that george w. bush was doing. 42% now at the same time for president obama. former bush communications director nicole wallace was on "morning joe" today and she talked a little bit about the troubles her administration faced in the second term. >> while public support had been dropping for the war in iraq, after katrina, after the many minneapolis/st. pau members of the public viewed us as incompetent and it transended
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to everything else we did. can that be overcome, senator? >> well, it can only be overcome with real results. the president should not be going out and having big town hall meetings and talking about how great the health care plan is. he should be working with the insurance companies. he's now put them in a very bad position because he just doesn't understand, i think, the business need for planning ahead. and the insurance companies have to be able to assess the risk based on the facts as they know it and go forward. and to just say, well, now the insurance companies can go back and they can retract their cancellations and give the old plans back is not going to work. you've got to sit down with them and see what can work and be more realistic. it is results that will change this, not pr campaigns. >> is this out of the president's hands, senator
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lincoln, in that there's a lot of tech people who have to fix, for example, what's wrong with the website? or are there things he can do? is it a good idea to go out there? is it a good idea to reach out to young people who are so important to the success or failure of this plan and in fact who responded to him very well during his campaigns? >> i think he has to do all of that. i think it's critically important to the success of this program. for 50 years people have been trying to figure out how do we reform and modernize our health care system. kay is right, it's in the result. it's getting in there. people expect their elected officials to work together. to work with industry and figure out how do we make these changes work for the american people. it's absolutely working with everybody and rolling up your sleeves and getting in there and really looking for the solutions that work. maybe retracting doesn't work, but there's something that will work and they have got to work to find that and to work with the industry and the congress to make it happen. and they can.
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>> i would make the argument that in the comparison between george w. bush and barack obama something has changed and that is social media, the way news seems to travel at the speed of light. senator hutchinson, just a couple of months ago there were predictions president obama was a dead duck over syria and you saw what happened with the government shutdown and suddenly things changed and things looked so bad for the republicans. now we're here and people are talking gloom and doom for the president for the rest of his term of three years. i'm wondering, could things change just as quickly on this? >> well, of course things change in politics. chris, i think what's different here is that the health care plan that he has put forward was reforming the whole system, changing what people who had coverage could do and hoping that it would all work out to bring more insured people in. it's like you don't blow up the house because the heater doesn't
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work. you work on fixing the heater. and we do need to work on a plan that will bring coverage for more people, but not by taking it away from the vast majority of people who do have health care that they like, that they want to keep. and that was the mistake in the first place. and when this is compared to katrina, i don't think that's even apt because this affects people individually everywhere who are facing a cancelled health care policy. the horror of opening a letter that says you no longer will have health insurance on january 1st and people have families and they don't see anything that would help them, that cannot be underestimated here. >> senator kay bailey hutchison, senator blanche lincoln, it's great to see both of you. thanks for coming on. now back to breaking news north of the border, the toronto
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city council is meeting right now and just held a critical vote. nbc's stephanie gosk is in toronto for us. stephanie, what's going on? >> reporter: hey, chris, critical but also mostly symbolic. the city council right now voted overwhelmingly to strip the mayor of some of his powers. the power to put committee chairs in place. it's basically toothless. we've been talking about this for the last couple of weeks. the city council doesn't have the authority to remove the mayor from office even though a number of them have said that's exactly what they want to do. they voted on a measure that strongly urged the mayor to take a leave of absence. he's not doing that. he's not stepping down. interestingly yesterday you had the premier of ontario come in and say if it gets bad enough here, she might step in and intervene. >> stephanie gosk who has been watching -- let me just ask you really quickly, stephanie, and it's been going on while i'm on the air, so i haven't been able to listen to every second of it,
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although i must admit i've been listening to it in commercial breaks. he seems pretty subdued today. >> reporter: he is subdued. he is pretty calm. he's been asking some procedural questions. at one point he stood up and asked what would happen if he did resign, would his deputy mayor then take over. it wasn't clear really what that answer was going to be. but moments ago this is what he had to say. >> i completely understand where they're coming from, and that's all i have to say and i just want to talk about emergency management after this. but i don't have -- i think if people are in my shoes, i think anyone would do what i have to do. ivory tan-- i have retained geo resti. this will cost taxpayers
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thousands of dollars. >> reporter: his mantra all along has been this defense that he has saved people in this city money, taxpayers money, that's why he says he should be allowed to stay. and the argument of him and his brother seems to be if they let this go on and then challenge it in the courts, that that's going to waste taxpayers money. remains to be seen whether that argument will hold any sway on a city that has grown pretty tired of this circus. >> you cannot make this stuff up. it is fascinating political theater in kind of a perverse way. nbc's stephanie gosk in toronto. i know you'll keep following it for us. thank you. checking the news feed, former miami dolphin jonathan martin is sitting down with the nfl's independent investigator here in new york right now. noted criminal attorney ted wells looking into allegations of workplace harassment inside the locker room. and now the playing accused of bullying, richie incognito, has filed a grievance challenging his suspension.
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fictional washington and some very real changes in television and entertainment. taking a page from the success of the netflix series "house of cards" and "orange is the new black" amazon now jumping into the fray of creating series that don't air on tv but instead stream via the internet. it has kwoit a pedigree written by gary trudeau. it follows four republican senators who share a house in d.c., including john goodman and mark consuelos. >> we just met. >> although i've been backing him for years. >> and i've been fronting for her. and who knew? >> who knew what? >> that she was so much more than this illegible signature on a check. and it gets better, she's setting up a super pac for me. shhh. >> joining me political analyst and executive producer, jonathan alter and he is also the author
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of "the center holds, obama and his enemies." and the actress you just saw, yara mar teentinezmartinez, one actors. jonathan, you and i have been friends for a long time and you convinced me to come and do a little cameo with michael steele and tom brokaw on the set of "alpha house." >> just to mention a couple of other people who are in that, grover norquist and anthony weiner. but you have to wait until episode 11. >> you guys are having some fun with this, aren't you? >> we are. we're having a great time with this. >> what's the point? is there a point? >> the point is to make entertaining television, and it does have some political bite. >> oh, it's very much like baseball, don't you think? >> if you like politics, you're going to find all sorts of things in it that go beyond just the fun of these four senators living in a house and interacting with yara's
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character and others. >> who is a very high-powered lobbyist, right? let me play another clip of you in "alpha house." >> robert pettencord. >> from pennsylvania, right? senior senator? >> very senior. unlike andy, who's number seven. >> well, a girl has to start somewhere. >> you seem so nice sitting here, but your character is a schemer. >> she is a schemer. actually robert, the character robert has one of my favorite liepz about lines in an upper episode. he's like andy is dating that? he goes i know, we all thought the same thing, but once you get to know her, she's really rich and powerful. that's exactly who my character is. >> so, so, so washington. obviously this is loosely based. i know this because you told me this, loosely based on a real
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situation where there were four democrats who were living together. >> still do. >> and still do live together. why focus on republicans? >> they're more fun. especially right now. so gary trudeau decided to change them from democrats to republicans, because the predicament of republicans is more interesting right now. so three of our four senators, played by john goodman, clark johnson and matt malloy, are up for re-election and they have tea party challengers in their states. and the fourth, played by mark consuelos who is having a flipping with yara's character, he is getting set to run for president in 2016, like a lot of these, you know, marco rubio and ted cruz types. so yara's character is going to help him lay the groundwork. >> you know, it's unfortunate they're just not really a good-looking couple. wow. >> but we tried to set it as
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realistically as we could. >> kind of in realtime where we are now. >> and these other political shows, obama is not president, mitch mcconnell is not minority leader, in our show they are so we really made an effort to connect not so much to the headlines. >> wanda sykes is also in this. >> cynthia nixon. >> and we were -- the scene that i did when we were walking into a funeral, i was kind of by myself so i said to wanda sykes and i said come stand by me and she said i can't, i'm a senator. she's hilarious. obviously there's pressure whenever you do a series, you want it to succeed and keep the job, is there additional pressure because this is ground-breaking and amazon has put a lot of eggs in this basket. >> the interesting thing with amazon, it's different working for a major network. it's very different in the sense that amazon, i feel like they have a five-year plan.
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they don't see -- obviously we want critical success and we want people to tune in and watch the three episodes today, but they have a longer vision as to what success is and i think that helps us. >> well, we should let people know not only is it starting today but it's binge watching. they can watch the first three episodes. yara, great to meet you, jonathan, good luck with the series. it is "alpha house." and we'll be right back. [ woman 3 ] to come together even when we're apart. [ male announcer ] in stuffing, mashed potatoes, gravy and more, swanson makes holiday dishes delicious. gravy and more, i've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. [ male announcer ] if you're eligible for medicare, you may know it only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. call now and find out about an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan,
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this next story just gets more and more unbelievable every day. embattled toronto mayor rob ford still refusing to step down, although moments ago the city council voted overwhelmingly to strip the mayor of some of his powers, a mayor he says he'll challenge in court. councilmembers say they're fed up with his embarrassing antics over the past several weeks. >> i might have had some drinks -- >> mr. mayor, have you purchased illegal drugs in the last two years? >> yes, i have.
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i really f'ed up. i'm humiliated by it but i cannot change the past. >> it is time for the reputation report, jansing & co.'s look at who's hot and who's not according to social media. here with an exclusive analysis is howard bragman, chairman of 15 minutes public relations. all right, howard, the crack-smoking mayor of toronto says he's not going anywhere. where's he going on social media? >> oh, he's not going anywhere there either, chris. some of the lowest numbers we've ever seen. 95% negative. but what's great when you put the drug filter in, he has zero percent positive. >> zero? >> zero percent positive which is something i've almost never seen. you would have thought one crack addict would have said, yeah, that's cool. but nobody has been there. and in a traditional pr sense they're telling him they want you to step away. if he would take a leave of
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absence, get the help he needed, i do think there's a chance for forgiveness, but not listening. >> let's shift to another controversy, allegations of bullying inside the miami dolphins locker room. of course the nfl is investigating richie incognito and he's filed a grievance after being suspended indefinitely for the alleged harassment of teammate jonathan martin. what are you seeing in that case? >> well, we're calling this on the move. it certainly is slightly negative for the miami dolphins overall. but there's a lot of people who are saying, you know, that's just the nature of locker rooms. richie incognito himself has gone on a media tour to try to defend his reputation. and people are saying things like get over it, you big baby. you make a million dollars a year, toughen up, that's what happens in the locker room. i will tell you if this controversy continues to affect their play on the field, we saw a real negative in social media when they lost. so they need to get over this. >> and real quickly, pope
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francis just the other day, new york cardinal dolan talked about what he calls the francis effect. what's going on? >> you know, people are really loving the pope. a ratio of about three to one. it's very chris christie-like. he's distancing himself from the policies of the church and becoming more popular. if you look at the pope, quote unquote, in social media, not so positive. if you look at pope francis, very positive. and i think his touches of humanity, separating himself from some of the controversy of the church, have really worked in a positive way for this pope. >> howard bragman, always great to see you. we'll see you next week. >> thanks, chris. >> and that's going to wrap up this hour of "jansing & co." thomas roberts is up next. happy friday, my friend. >> happy friday to you. thanks so much. good morning, we have a lot on the agenda, coming up with the president's so-called fix to the health care law to allow americans to keep their insurance plans if they so
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