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considerations considering that in the past 100 days there have been a lot of. outbreaks of violence attacks on in those certain bystanders if you if you find somebody who does agree with you you bash that person so in view of the potential for fights and the breakdown of law and order i thing the authorities were rights too can sodhi to fireworks this year well as you know media here in britain is covering the protests we have pictures in the studio of the american flags and british flags being flown by the protesters media here says they are peaceful protesters and in fact british media sense thora g.'s are investigating c.g.m. the chinese international channel for bias the western media coverage on the hong kong events have certainly been highly biased in our view you know there have been a lot of description of the events in hong kong as police brutality
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whereas actually although the protests have taken place for over 100 days there have not really been serious injuries and no fatalities compared with the way western police hendo the los angeles riots in the 1970s occupy wall street in 2011 and the london riots in 2011 also in 5 days there were 5 deaths several 1000 arrests that whereas at home call we have over 200 policemen injured maybe a similar number of members of public also injured but really no serious injuries and no fatalities yes but arguably in london when there were riots the authorities here doubled down and they greeted austerity whereas you know on kong it seems to be one cave in after another to protest as you called off the legislation for league. will unity with china back in 2012 you called of education curriculum
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changes because of protests why is it the hong kong authorities do everything the demonstrators appear to want them to do although some western media would like to portray our government as suppressor of the masses actually as you said our government has come pick children had several times to mass demonstrations because we are strong protect our rights and freedoms and we got jealously is our reputation you know and there is a lot of external pressure on us if there are any accusations against us so the whole companies they're actually much more sinned against than sinning well presumably not going to be laid by giving on going to the back to the british what does it make you feel when you see the british union jack being flown by the protest does and people wanting british rule well i think they should go to the pit
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console a and ask them for protests passports for all those who are flight because flights or want to exchange their british special no overseas possible for british citizen passports they look at a solid a resounding no because the pritish have been amending then nationality and immigration legislation in the past decades so as to de bar hong kong people so these people are very naive if they think they can't get help when protection from the pictish or the americans by flying their flags you probably remember when britain ruled on going in a defacto dictatorship is that a failure of hong kong authorities as regards education that the young in hong kong some of the young you know gong don't remember the british defector dictatorship our young people i think they have been you know very set victims up our new school . curriculum which has crowded out the study of chinese history and chinese culture
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and a lot of them have been brainwashed into believing that only western values are the universal core values and they have forgotten the need for respect and tolerance for views which are different of their own that's why in the past 100 days or more they had been fights between different groups of citizens would is the class dimension to the protests because they understand that though 1300000 people are trapped in poverty in hong kong and we seldom hear about that of course in the western major nation mainstream media what is the relation between poverty demonstrators perhaps for china and demonstrators pro-west what i have thoughts once so about the 1300000 thyca are people living below poverty line but
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it is true that we have an acute land then housing crisis in hong kong you know about 200000 families had to live in very small abject subdivided queue because at their high red posts and i think a lot of the anger has 22 or 3 acute housing problems and also the widening wealth gap and it is a fact that our government has not done anything to cure these problems in the past 22 years i think that is really what lies at the root of the anger do other members of the cabinet share say policy concerns over privatization in hong kong i know you are active as regards the link real estate. investment trust and the poor market trade is rents went up by so much but i have no problem with the free market economy but if you look at the hunk of stock markets tour high. flyers the 2 stocks
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which have done well they are the link reads and the n.p.r. see they've done better than our property developers because basically they enjoy one not police they enjoy more not police and captive markets handed over by them by our government. because of poor policies you do the u.s. congress there's a law going to be being examined the wrong gong like mainland china as regards donald trump's trade war what impact do you think that will have will it actually help the homegrown authorities authority over the people you will go what you're talking about the hong kong human rights and democracy act 2 or 19 which are planes to amend the 992 us hong kong policy acts which gives public all this fun treatment for mainland china under u.s. law. this time to new york though they have tightened up the scrutiny they are
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requiring the secretary of states to make any or certificate that there is no violation of human rights freedoms you know. that sort of thing in hong kong and it is more intimidating because it affects one's sanctions against persons identified by by the administration as undermining white said freedoms and this is sending very negative signals of our hong kong in fact holocaust has a very good standing of its war law so this all top allegations are really unfounded and the bill is intimidating and sending very negative signals of our home cough are you prepared to be assigned national chicken unhappy are you prepared to be sanctioned person i'm not worry about censure i don't see any grounds for sanctioning me but i'm not worried about censure you know . time un happy about this when the u.s.
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congress how hearings recently the congressional executive commission on china as well as the senate foreign relations committee they chose to hear only form read because rather than hear form a wider range of 0 pinions from hong kong so they have formed very negative bias picture of the state of freedoms and human rights in hong kong. i would do the your colleagues in beijing say about how the hong kong authorities have have handled these protests because you surely knew the long history of u.k. u.s. destabilization of jona whether it be the drugging of its population and all sorts of attempts to destroy it want to be in china it's not be handled well has it already come an accusation of the west as china would intervene in hong kong would
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intervene in the heavy metal heavy handed way they would be a repeat of the solid can one events you know. they take has actually been exceedingly restrained in in their approach to walk the events of hong kong they are leaving it to us to resolve our own problems and i think we are resolved to use our own legislative and law enforcement resources to bring the current quizes to a close i think we will get this upon critics who are looking to beijing to intervene in the heavy hand that men so that they can accuse spacing of breaking their promises in the sign up addiction declaration and in the basic law i don't think we were for into that. but when it comes to bringing people out of poverty when it comes to growth rates why do you think china does so much better than the special administrative region of ongoing we used to be far more efficient and effective before 997 i think it's because our democratic development you know i'm
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not at mall thing democratic development but the introduction of democratic popular elections thus mean that we have to allow a lot more time for the bates discussions and the filibustering in our legislature which prevents us from getting things done as effectively as before we saw aren't you just saying that it's better under the british. well we were certainly more efficient under the british you know in before 997 although we did not have democracy until we did not have democratic elections through the legislature until 9091 but we have walked lol so whole call was free even though we do not we did not have western style democratic elections and that system served us well you know where s. we have been going downhill since we changed our political system to
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a mall mall at the sorry 0 and democratic one so will you be the next chief executive of hong kong replacing carrie lamb it's not i don't think so you know my policy is to help the chief executive to stop the violence and bring the current crisis to a close ship. fall 3 years and i will support the regime have thank you after the break as merkel backs trump in the persian gulf we speak to senior german dillinger m p 7 document about the tragic contradictions of european union foreign policy. but leading swades aboard mark funny how on divided cities all the balkan we have about europe going underground.
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in 2040 you know bloody revolution here to the demonstrations going from being relatively peaceful political protests to be creasing the violent revolution is always spontaneous or is it you know we're here to a premier list put video dream in the new bill is that i mean you split needle the former ukrainian president recalls the events of $24.00 g. and. those who took. it invested over $5000000000.00 to assist ukraine. in these an article. where secure and prosperous and democratic. run for from the unknown comes out of the cold war hero of the set up one among what i would. a font after 98 to hide not the high i my.
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at the salon month and into the how long and so on. for the sum total of the muslim youth a lot of the. board . welcome back today saudi arabia concludes this year's un general assembly in new york this after donald trump said he wants to send hundreds of his soldiers to protect the kingdom that beheads and crucifies another country not only hosting
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u.s. troops but the u.s.a.'s largest overseas base is germany which agrees with britain and the usa that iran was behind asymmetric attacks on saudi arabia that cause record breaking spikes in oil prices well we went to the use of about speak to a member of the bundestag dealing deputy chair of foreign policy in arms exports 7 doug dillon on the sites of where the berlin wall once stood i have to start with you. and in your capacity as the left group deputy chair foreign policy and arms exports and disarmament do you agree with people in the angela merkel c.v. you say there's a moral duty to be there in the straits of hormuz to protect shipping from iran and i think we're there's a moral duty to deescalate in the region at the persian persian gulf because at the
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moment is to ation as very explosive and we have to. we have to make more pressure that all the military ships will go out of the region why do you think britain was so quick to offer support to the united states and donald trump over iran while it's not a secret that great britain even in the past is very often very unconditionally on the side of the us. regarding war policies in the region and for middle east for example war against iraq and so we have a saying in germany as well that tony blair the former prime minister in great britain was the portal of george w. bush in us and it seems that johnson as the new poor all of us
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president donald trump do you think your views a shared obviously by dealing the group of the linker buddies but is it shared by other elements of. the political system here in germany well the majority of the people in germany is against the war against iran they are totally against it and they are in favor of the escalation and diplomacy rather than to. send troops or warships to the region we have to prevent and do everything to prevent a war against iran because we. assume that it will be worse than the war against iraq if it will start against iran see i think prime minister johnson would say he doesn't want a war either and here we are in berlin germany has the largest overseas united states army base in the world there are tens of thousands of american
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soldiers germany is germany in or approval well i never said it's not but we had a no decision of the parliament and the government regarding the war against iraq we didn't follow the us like a great britain did i think after the withdrawal of french troops of russian troops and the british troops in germany there is no logical reason why 37000 u.s. soldiers are on german soil can't you understand why people in britain want to leave the european union if. not only do they know the germany is filled with tens of thousands of soldiers from the united states the european union does things like recognize u.s. backed president in venezuela congealing because he why the people of britain want
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to leave this european union i mean of course there is criticize critics. about the european union the treaty of the european union the lisbon treaty and the policy it's very. unsocial it's a military state and it's near liberal policies but i think the decision on bret's it is a decision of the british people and i am really. preferring to stay back to advise or to say to british people what they should do or what they don't see jeremy corbin the leader of western europe's largest socialist movement half a 1000000 members in britain. he's the favorite to win the next to become the next prime minister dealing has been wiped out in germany while the
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policies of delinquent not popular here but certainly the policies are shared with corbin many of them where the policy is doing better maybe in britain well i mean i would be very glad if we call them would be the next prime minister in great britain but we will all see when you see all the opinion polls in germany the positions of the party the link is very popular you know we are against military interventions brought against us nuclear bombs in germany we want that the us take them back for example we are against. policies of the malcolm government for example and so we do have a lot of common with the majority of the people in germany even for taxing the billionaires and the millionaires and but the problem is not only to have you know
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these popular positions so we have to get voters at their elections and this is a different question. do you think the media is channeling the media in germany is channeling opposition to the c.d.u. straight to the f d is that what's going on because it's the far right that is winning here while the far right is winning in some areas of the european union it's not just in germany you can see why the european parliament elections so that's not new and it's not only india really badly in sacks of the brandenburg yeah i agree i know when we do have we do have reasons for that so we are still in discussions within the link about this and to have a strategy to form
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a strategy how should we get the voters back we lost and how we can get more voters in my point of view the left in the past especially in the past 10 years they did a lot of identity policy but not the policy for the majority of the people so class politics exactly. we have a lack of that we began by talking about iran german weapon parts are exported to saudi arabia of course trump says iran situation is about the attack in saudi arabia iran denies it. well they have no to that moment there is no proof that iran did attack the drone attack on the all fields in saudi arabia ok but there is proof that german weapons have been used on yemen as part of the saudi coalition. as someone who is the left disarmament deputy chair
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what is going on because britain has now been banned at least until an appeal goes through from exporting weapons to saudi arabia we do have a german stop arms exports to save the arabia but unfortunately not. the arms exports stop to saudi arabia with the common arms with a great britain and france for example the euro fighters are the tornadoes we have to stop them as well of course because the saudis they are still bombing and making massacre us on the civil society are on yemen and i think it's a contradiction to the to the foreign policy the german government always always is calling they say we have a foreign policy on the. on moral. values but
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i think it's it's not of value to say weapons to saudi arabia and they use it against the society in yemen well we invite the side your neighbor ambassador to london on the show to respond to that serene douglas thank you. while in berlin we also caught up with berlin based musician and artist mark foley have supported suede played with david bowie's final lead guitarist gerry limited and i started by asking him about his new single divided cities well it's it's quite a simple song about bricks it's. you know that's not all the k. . borders and everything beginning would be basically keep it simple for myself together with the berlin bit cities everyone knows this was famously divided what's it like living here in moving from england it's it's a great place to be an artist because it's very very affordable compared to london or most capital cities do you think it is devoted to this new question i mean it's
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i guess everyone is divided in about 20 different ways these days so where is the bricks of context in the i mean the song divided cities is about divisions politically and divisions geographically hence the berlin wall and obviously how people are very kind of. divided ideologically you know to one side of the other side berliners of obviously got used to the divided if he's history do you think because you're from outside you can still notice that context much more in a much more alive way than maybe someone who was born here just after the war came to berlin ziva quite it's even really liberal of your opposite it goes from one extreme to the other then which makes it quite inspiring because it's lived through well there is that other the rise of the far right yeah ok where you are supported swayed here in london very here in berlin and you're going to be boarding them again i believe so yeah every time they play berlin i've supported them over the
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last few tours so that's like 3 tours that they played on they've asked me to support the singer the singer brought under 7 so it's very nice what do you like there were brother he's a really good yeah. yeah just a super nice guy and super inspiring guy as well and again quite international he also escaped from a small town so there's lots of parallels i think you know and similar themes similar influences i guess so i mean stuff like bowie and all these kind of bands from that era kind of sing about being outsiders you know so i think it's the same thing growing up at school and getting bullied and stuff and then you kind of find your own identity by moving away and became ingin alien somewhere else you know so i think feel more at home here as an outsider in a strange way than i do in living in england you know even if it's not so great things about england microbes meals about in england for example of about my quick meals here a disaster and no one believes in ghosts and believe so that's
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a very nice way of wheels or better in britain so when you touring back in england i guess that depends on bricks it really so if you don't want me back then it's probably a good idea to like forget that idea about bricks. funny how they're speaking to us a ruptly studios in berlin is single divided cities is out now that's over the show will be back on wednesday one year to the day of the brutal assassination of the washington post jamal khashoggi allegedly by saudi agents assisted by israeli spy where until then people talk about social media don't forget to subscribe to our you tube channel. 10 years since crossed i started 10 years i think it's time to shake things up maybe change the branding maybe the format here is what i've been thinking about
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