tv Documentary RT February 28, 2021 1:30pm-2:01pm EST
give me mr cole good to see. my father had contacted many lawyers in both canada and in the united states and no one most prepared to do this they were very very brave to go up against the government in this way that night parents thought of them as heroes and and so today david or lakos standing as a member of parliament didn't really help as much. as the powers that be an ottawa room were concerned about not rocking the boat with their american
colleagues and they were about. dancing a case that was brought by one of their own members of parliament to. do a lot of bizarre physical therapy he's going on in psychiatry at the time. but no one had ever used a combination of very powerful drug. controls there is extended sleep sensory isolation and all the other methods. she was using there had been there was never anything like this. where i grew up this was my street. you see that tree there i remember when i could put my fingers around it we planted that tree so that trees planted in 1945 it's quite a long time ago. harvey decided to write a book about his father's experiences. as he researched the legal case he began
to get a lot of attention. some strange things were happening and they always arriving in our house open. there were all these strange clicks on the telephone. and then about 2 weeks after that i'm driving to pick up my kids from a school dance clear night. clear road. from behind me comes a car with no headlights slams into me pushes me off the road and disappears. something that we haven't spoken about nothing like this of course ever happened again but. interesting questions. sarah has been making about her grandmother since 2009.
was able to bring the united states war news long and. immediately moloch was ordered to florida to help draw up the invasion of afghanistan on. a little later. in a little league in the 2001 i made the decision life changing decision it turned out to be to go to afghanistan and to do that with my wife my children. the war on terrorism begins america and britain strike afghanistan. on october the 7th 2001 the wall tara began its panic panic
this isn't just the united states bombing sorties income paints this is now soldiers on the ground people in the streets. killing people arresting people torturing people and on the target. muslim was captured and detained in the background base for a new. in february 2003 he was taken to guantanamo bay detention camp accused of being a member of al qaeda. he was considered high risk and for the next 22 months he was held in solitary confinement.
released after $911.00. missive to quote. it was the day islam who did it all security and explain to me the u.s. government asked him to arrest me. mamadou was accused of being the leader of an al qaeda cell in both germany and montreal. in the chaos president bush signed a secret directive giving the cia to kill all captured terrorists anywhere. in the years that followed several dozen crisscrossed the globe taking thousands of flights. with an onslaught of prisoners the bush administration drew up a memorandum. known as the tool. it set out the
legal basis for using these techniques in the war on terror and cited the hooded man's $978.00 judgment. within months the cia rolled out these methods. and all its black sites. they called them in hong interrogation techniques. this cia turn to contract psychologist who had no experience with al qaeda who had no experience with interrogations and had no experience in the middle east jim and i went into a cubicle said downard he said out of the typewriter and together we wrote out the list as techniques that we thought. had worked well in the search cool
well i had already been told that the geneva conventions didn't apply to the capture of detainees did not did not apply to the couch of detainees by the authorities at the cia and so i don't think i thought about geneva conventions. made became what i was often referred to as a modern day equivalent of snake oil salesman these 2 psychologists who were awarded a $183000000.00 contract to run a program of torture. c n a psychosis it's used to cameron's experiments on sensory deprivation and i haven't along with the code will see a program to create a horrific mix of torture techniques. all social change has almost entirely taken place in consequence something else. it does not control.
we need to protect society from those that can think it's one small thing to kill us the strong protect others from these people. the american psychological association is who. world's largest organization of psychologists and probably has the most influence over the community of psychologists around the world. secretly the a.p.a. psychologists but king in the tour to present to override that ethical code. if the minute change in cia be quiet it. program of abusive
interrogations the program of torture at the cia was designed by psychologists and one tunnel was designed by a psychologist and a psychiatrist after they were trained in the techniques and in the program of the cia abuse. and that's when i could basically stand. and so suddenly i went crime and just being a psychologist in my office. to becoming the face of opposition to the a.p.'s position. the war is a strategic business. our planning and our execution needs to be really well thought out. and it has consequences for years. i was in conversations with the
department defense and with the white house. and i learned that we had psychiatrists and psychologists who were advising the interrogation teams. then i learned that they were not just devising that they were involved. by i was stunned. it's taken all this time for me to build the picture of what's been involved in the secrecy that was behind this torture program.
was a pandemic no certainly no blood is just blind to nationalities. has emerged we caught up with the we don't look like seeing the whole world needs to be . people. judging. come in a crisis like this until. we can do better we should be. everyone is contributing way but we also know that this crisis will not go on forever the challenges created with the response has been masked so many good people are helping us. it makes us feel very proud that we're in it together.
we're more politicized than ever we're more polarized than ever the 21st century when speed is measured in megabytes per 2nd. electronic mail electronic money electronic media infinite possibilities for exchanging information i mean me and my misery wife the freedom of speech and social media bends censorship and double standards who should judge what can be said online. the internet audience now totals almost 4500000000 almost all of them are active social network users put one wrong move on their pages deleted digital annihilation who don't exist anymore. not who runs the show on the web how can anyone
stand up to the tech giants if even heads of state face the threat of being banned is there any limits to hold that virtual power. reasonable for a nudist but i will have reasonable way. in the punishment wing india block mamadou was isolated from only i think detainee . recorded the freed because it's a video call. i was there was love i mean there was a level no food nothing total isolation. the psychological and physical toll chip and i was been attempted to one you for 7 that
was. a naked. field because of my activism that i was glad to kill him in some way to do harm to their does it over me. this is either to confess to little crime or we're going to put you in the door so pulled it out and i said. go for it then you must i was really stupid the hero bag the. american said the logic says that without you they wouldn't meet $911.00. suddenly mama dude was cloths the most prisoners in guantanamo. the role of psychologist in this torture program astounds me i saw that we're heading down a road that i knew was going to be disastrous. in 2002 mach put his neck
on the line and then to see perry's. the to see i quit using. i felt like there was an avalanche you can see these boulders coming down and you can wave a wand you try to stop it i could not stop what was happening in the bloodthirst to torture people was just too. green for any one person stop. your interrogation rules of engagement go far beyond should need a convention stress positions sleep management dietary manipulation all of these things go far beyond a standard which says there will be no physical or mental torture nor any other form of course that's the geneva convention these rules of engagement for interrogation issued by your department are inconsistent with those my recollection is that any instructions that have been issued or anything that's been authorized
by the department was checked by the lawyers in your shop in the department in the office of the secretary of defense and deemed to be consistent with it you know absolutely and it's us secretary of defense donald rumsfeld was convinced that mohammed he recruited 3 of the 911 hijackers. he personally authorized a 90 day special projects status from hama to with her endless consequence and 7 the order to abuse prisoners was only going to build up to that almost water they need justification and so what they did was they sent a colonel. to guantanamo to look and try to justify what was going on. and he said quote tunnel base is america's battle land. and the moment i heard that it evoked memories of nuremberg it evoked memories of what the nazis were doing experiments. to see if they started with
the sleep deprivation regime. and then a massive guide disease. it was very dog except close to all bloods. and then he said. and then he stopped playing these music and did the bodies on the floor all day long. you know. i cannot explain to you once someone is put doing. the floor and. 2 women and a guy. and force them onto. a no war has a moral imperative. america after $911.00 was in shock. and
i think we had been deeply frightened and i think that fear how was it exploited certainly in the years after that and has continued to be exploited. but i understand things you more nato d.t.s. and. i you know i've met a number of them you know so many probably more than anyone else on earth can you tell me about them. i can't specifically talk about what i have. my meetings with them or what i've learned about these men. i've met colleagues shaikh mohammad. ali bin a tosh. ramzi bin al s'shibh amar al baluchi. and pus sali these band were subjected to all these tactics
and there is absolutely no evidence. absolutely not a shred of evidence that it did these. tactics used on these men really gave us any intelligence that was important or useful to our country. torture. iraq morphed into what we call isis today. the same. it's just a manifestation of torture. these are potential we created and we're living with those results today. you said. oh this is absolutely what crimes we knew there. this
new substitute. is here to rectify 10 years of deceitful and secret collusion to impede the will of the membership. interim still comprised of the test is told with the a.p.a. is coming. through here today. to reset our moral compass. he had been trying for 10 years to prevent psychologists from being part of national security interest issues. that it's. going to be politics and we changed and. after being held for 3. months on was released without. some
sort of hype in the fight to simply get on a plane. what would have happened would i'd end up in guantanamo with these with these painful with this painful period every have happened would i be the person i have today i caught on to those questions but i do often say to myself why didn't i just get on a plane and go back. mohammed to these confessions were found to be the result of torture. he was released without charge after 14 years. i was no match for them they destroyed me they would they have broken and there is nothing i could say you know to save my face of to say all i want no i did not because those people out of professional dr who studied just for this purpose to destroy human spirit and make it dependent
be a dia and make them confess to what ever they wanted them to confess to. in august 2017 the 2 psychologists who created the cia's torture program were about to be put on trial we were soldiers doing what we were instructed to do we knew it was lawful we knew it was legal we knew it had been vetted in approved do you think it's possible as a psychologist that an individual who was subjected to them suffered a long term physical or psychological. do you think it's possible that our sleep deprivation taken to the extreme could induce severe mental pain or suffering protection. the cia settled out of cool for an undisclosed amount no liability was submitted. world whole of
government will intensify the problem of the growing of the common. but we must. go friendly in all unflinchingly along those. a world in which we must at last to find the response ability for ourselves. to ensure that in the fight again. he says and. we continue to have all the necessary power to detain terrorists wherever we chase them down where ever we find them. and in many cases for them it will now be one tatt imo. the hof the named on a structured program has been announced at guantanamo bay which could see it tripled in population. what makes this issue important
when tunnel has become the calling cry tour here is some sign of american power that allows people to think that america will be great again. the united states right now is. a terrorist attack away from instituting torture. since the 950 s. we know these techniques have been yeast in afghanistan. australian. british guyland british coming canada. great britain. iran iraq israel if you ain't in iraq you know the 9 pakistan the philippines poland rumania. turkey
it's been decades since the fall of spain's fascist regime but old wounds still haven't healed. me from a dog. in the bush at us as mean older than us and they seem to know. of newborn babies were torn from their mothers and given away and forced adoption i don't know. to this day mothers still search for grown children. hope for their birth parents. so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have it's crazy confrontation let it be an arms race is often very dramatic developments only
going to exist i don't see how that will be successful very. time to sit down and talk. during the vietnam war us forces are also bombed to neighboring laos there was a secret war. and for years the american people did not know. until our. mouth had rebound country per capita all human history millions of unexploded bombs still in danger lives in this small agricultural country jordyn we don't know how it's happening there even today kids in laos fall victim to bombs dropped decades ago is the us making amends for their tragedy and what help to the people need in that little land of mines.
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