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is neighborhood neighborhood have dentist corrosive are coffeehouses but 2, 3, 4 coffeehouses in month neighborhoods that are on their own- that'scedillo >> leaving welcome to the february 17, 2016 of the san francisco board of appeals. the presiding officer is board president gerald honda and he joined tonight by her vice president frank fung, commissioner lazarus swig and bobby wilson did to my left is deputy city attorney thomas a when dividing the board with needed legal advice tonight.. at the controls is gary pantera. he's the board legal assistant and him cynthia
goldstein the board's executive director. were also joined by representatives from the city departments that of cases before the board this evening good with san francisco public works bureau of streets and mapping. we are also at the table is senior building inspector representing the department of building inspection and building and this writer scott sanchez also are present in the planning department and planning commission. the board was to turn off or silence all phones or other electronic devices so will not disturb the proceedings. the board schools of presentation are as follows. appellants and department respondents are each given 7 min. to present their case and 3 min. for rebuttal. people affiliated with these parties must conclude that comets within the seven or 3 min. period. member of the public not affiliate with the parties up to 3 min. each to address the board and no rebuttal. please speak into the end of
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and say i do after you've been sworn in or firms. please stand out if you plan to testify. raise your right hand. do you solemnly swear or affirm that the testimony you're about to give will be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth? thank you. pres. honda and commissioners, is one housekeeping item. this has to do with item number five appeal number 15 201. this is for suspension request at 6 39th ave. the parties have requested a rescheduling to march 15, 2016. this is to allow time for the appellants to obtain legal counsel. so, if the board is inclined to do that will need a motion. >> any public comment on this motion? seeing none,, we have a motion to move this item to march 16. on that motion of commissioner fung aye, pres. honda i'm a aye commissioner wilson aye, swig aye. that
motion carries 5-0. thank you. moving back to item number one in all public comments. this an opportunity for everyone here would like to address the board on a matter that's within the board subject matter jurisdiction but is not on tonight's agenda. is there any general public comment? seeing none, will move to item 2, which is commissioner comments and questions. anything from the commissioners tonight? item 3 is the board consideration and possible adoption of the february 10, 2016 minutes. >> any additions or changes to the minutes? can have a motion? >> motion. >> we have a motion to adopt the minutes. any public comment on the minutes? seeing none, no public comment to adopt fung aye, lazarus, aye, honda, aye
wilson aye. that motion carries five-second item deal item number four is appeal number 16 001. arjun singh doing business as spice affairs versus san francisco public works bureau of street and updated at 214 battery st. 46 geary st. and 99 posted appealing the denial by december 29, 2015 of them will for food facility permit. denial permit application because all three locations on close proximity to existing restaurant. in addition parking a truck in those areas for long durations will contribute to more traffic congestion. this is permit application number 13 0004 and we will start with the appellant. thank you, you have 7 min. to present your case to the board. >> first, i would like to about the three different occasions. the first
>> overhead, please. >> if you could speak a little more directly into the microphone that would be helpful. the data >> i put a diagram for 214 battery st. the only two restaurants on battery street in a three block space and only two restaurants would be the [inaudible] and on battery street, three blocks there are no restaurants doing business. also in the three block radius is no indian restaurant in the area. battery street being a one-way street is most of traffic leaving san francisco so it doesn't have any congestion in the mornings. i sent out a public notification to all vendors within the radius and they did not write any objections to the permit.
the second one would be 99 post should i understand this is close to the [inaudible] but i like to propose 6 pm-11 pm of operation at this time all the restaurants are not doing business at that time. post rate is also a one-way street. in the morning we would do business. there will not be any traffic in that area. at 46 geary st. in the to box him operating street there's only two restaurants. [inaudible]. fall into the radius and the other restaurants to not have objections. there is also no
indian restaurant. the width of the sidewalk is 10 feet. and it's more than allowed for a traffic congestion. our food truck is a most 22 feet. if it's in one parking meter. so we mostly ask dpw at requires two locations to part the food truck but we actually minimize the truck that's very small, 20 2p.22 feet. regarding the public hearing the decision was made in favor. we would also like to reduce the operation from 10-3 pm. that's five hours a day to avoid traffic congestion. to accommodate dpw's request for not operating for long hours of the day. these hours will be ideal as were coming and going from work.
for all other notifications is good feedback and they would like to have a restaurant in the area. there's not a lot of options for indian food in the air. all the people in the area do not have an option for a quick lunch. so that might have something that's quick and easy to access and the food truck would be ideal for that. san francisco is a great city of restaurants for the best location being in downtown san francisco. this took us a long time. even though the planning permit approved in march 2013, but it took us 2.5 years to apply for the until it was
denied. the reason it went back and forth so many times in this 1.5 years is that we want to make sure the dpw guidelines are followed and making sure we provide it to talk with is no congestion in the area. as for the notifications as of dpw requires notifications to all businesses and the radius to see if there's any objections related to this location. consider the 75 feet radius only one restaurant in the two locations. there's not a lot of restaurants on the same street. and having a wide sidewalk and no indian food in the area, we
would like to respectfully request the board to make a decision on our behalf. as of dpw also does not how far the restaurants need to be for us to qualify or not qualified to the to location should so we are assuming as long as it's not in that 45 feet radius and the 75 feet radius restaurant the same kind of food, we are okay but we still try to keep our food truck away from a lot of big restaurants. just on the two locations were no restaurants and one of the things dpw said, we were operating for long hours. so we would like to minimize those hours to 25 hours -25 hours a day. a limited traffic condition and at that time not a lot of people are leaving and coming into san francisco.that
should be adhered >> i've a question, subject are you currently operating any mobile facilities at this time? >> no, i'm not >> would you personally be running these operations? >> yes, i am. >> thank you. >> we can hear from the department now. >> good evening, commission. public works. just to speak in regard to 13 appeal 16 001. the applicant first applied for this permit under 13 mf 004 in february 13 23rd. in regards to the plans this being a 2.5 year long process, it has taken a long. however it should be noted several other locations were originally on the applications and because several of those locations did not meet code requirements, there were several iterations
and revisions and subsequently, the current location which are on this appeal today were applied for in march of 2015. after confirming that these three locations listed met the general location requirements set forth in article 5.8 of the public works code, they decided to move forward with the required notification in the 2015. after notice there were quite a few objections. i believe five, total but a few objections included livered communities as well as the business improvement district, which is several different players involved. those objections were received and therefore public hearing was set for august 5 in 2015. so, per code, the director of public works is allowed to assign a designee to conduct the hearing and after the hearing officer conducted the hearing and all information was provided to the barman of
public works the bureau manager as well as the city engineer the city engineer subsequently denied all three locations as all three locations are in close proximity to existing restaurants and in addition parking a truck in these areas are these long durations, which is virtually any them-12 am will contribute to more traffic congestion. the reclamation from the city engineer was also given to apply for locations and other underserved areas with less restaurants. so, just under the basis of this. part 4e of public works code was that the guidelines graduate regulations robbery mobile phone facilities and public right away. it allows the director and his or his designee to review all pertinent information. run the application and the validity of the mobile food facility following the hearing. therefore, the city engineer is allowed to review this and the basis for the denial is as follows. the board of supervisors ordinance 11913 regarding mobile food facility permitting and the right-of-way was created to provide and
expand the range of convenient and interesting food consumption opportunities for mobile food facilities and underserved less congested areas of the city. at different times of the day and evening. so, take a look at these locations, all three of those locations are exclusive to the downtown area and n. of market st. very close or in the square business improvement district and union square area. there were plants made by the phone stating the number of restaurants within close proximity is approximately 2-3. however, this is incorrect. if you book within exhibits b1, b2, mp3, you can see that leave at least 10 restaurants at each location within the 2-3 block radius from the proposed locations. additional, public works encourages food trucks to operate in standard vehicle parking spaces following that same ordinance 119 additional, public works encourages food trucks to operate in standard
vehicle parking spaces following that same ordinance 11913. i quote, the city must exercise care and public safety in addressing appropriate locations for food facilities to discourage unloading and top of zones for spaces for regular service. and existing businesses and the board of parking associated with dad to vehicular congestion for off street parking that's more special when occupied by these facilities. the public works has allowed foods to operate in yellow zones. we've done that so on a case-by-case pasted with a condition that all mobile food facilities shall abide all parking restrictions and controls. if you take a look at these particular box you will notice that on percent of the parking on this box is commercial and yellow loading. with the exception of one on jury, i believe, was a handicap space. they do fall within relatively extended period of time is the original request was between 8 am-12 am. in
addition to that, several of these existing businesses and restaurants during this time are open during the requested times, which does not follow ordinance 11913, which request we provide options at different times of the day and evening. just one last point i want to address. it was mentioned there are no very many similar food options in the area. i want to make it clear that that is no longer similar foods and like foods is no longer part of the ordinance so that should not take precedence in your decision-making. i'm available for any further questions you have. >> mr. shaw, i think that was the question i was going to ask. the type of foods. the other question would have been a proposed time change by the appellant, would that have affected the hearing officer's decision?
>> it likely would have. i can speak for the hearing officer but i assume it would have. i believe many of the complaints received during the hearing with that the operation was occurring during many of these business hours. many of these businesses is going off of google are open between 10 am-6 pm in the fall directly within their timeframe. >> procedurally, how would that work in terms of actions by this board? does he have to reapply with a different timeframe? >> he would have to reapply good i believe, so once you go after 6 pm you do have to do a large notification that there are additional requirements. i believe it's not only a ground-floor tenants anymore. becomes anybody that an horror stories as well. however, i do believe he did apply until 12 am so i don't think an additional notice would be required in this case. >> after 8 pm additional
notice is required but he did apply for after 8 pm. >> my question on the permit holders i notice that although he has the rotunda neiman marcus café is not in this listed on there at all. >> i'm sorry, on >> on gary street. >> i'm sorry. >> neiman marcus has a restaurant on the ground floor as well. besides the rotunda. >> okay. okay. >> so, what we look for in terms of following article 5.8, is that the location has to be a minimum of 75 feet from the primary entrance. so, if that enters his within neiman marcus that's probably why it was not accounted for. did okay, the tango. >> i have a question. i'm very familiar with those three streets. i been stuck in traffic
probably five times this week. gary street close up, third street by my conduit to union square. the primary conduit to the bay bridge. battery street, primary conduit for the bay bridge onto first street and entry and access to the financial district. where does dpw way in on this request i mean, these are primary-these are secondary street. these are primary conduits which are called regardless of whether there's something part of their or not. >> unfortunately, we are not as qualified to review the traffic and congestion >> i meant to say the department of parking and traffic. we did okay.
>> where does that fit in? >> it is a violation in terms of parking department of public parking and traffic they would have to come in and provide the proper enforcement in terms of ticketing requiring them to move. >> without feedback with regard to traffic? who does the traffic studies in general? you brought up the fact that or it's brought up in the brief, that there is an issue with the parking, truck needing to make a delivery, one more truck sitting for a long period of time.. creating one less yellow zone short-term parking space. that creates a double parked. it screws up traffic even more. who handles the measurement and the study of congestion and measures whether it's viable that anything is
there? >> is after the municipal transportation and agency. empty. they have a qualified traffic engineers and they would be the ones that produce traffic studies. from what i understand traffic studies are usually produced only after request made from the public and they do have to pay fees to get that traffic study. in this case, conducting traffic study is not required part of our application. it's really more of a judgment call in this case and a case-by-case basis in terms of the traffic and congestion in certain areas. >> but therefore going back to dpw, again, gary street, a major east-west entry into unit square, correct? >> correct >> post street, the most the major west-east exit from union square. there is no other one. and battery, again, the major north-south entry across market
to babies. so, is that which you call a judgment call when you identified the three major conduits and food truck parked there might cause congestion? >> in this case, yes. that as well as the amount of businesses within the area as well as the dedicated parking on each of these blocks. >> thanks. >> thank you. >> we can take public comment no. may i see a show of hands only people plan to speak under this item? first person please step forward. if the others are willing please them on the far side of the room against that wall were moving through things go. lover wants to speak first, please fit for. if you haven't already filled out a speaker card, please come forward. if you do so before you come up to speak and give it to the stricken taro, that would be helpful. >> just one concern, 46 geary good for the greystone hotel,
we are at 66 gary and a year ago this is a good thing, we are the called moving but they really worked with the sound. if you bring a truck in skimpy lesson 23 paces away from it i measured it. it's a residential hotel. it's very close to it like i said it were at 46 geary st. and we have to have our windows open. we do have to have our windows open. that's pretty much what i want to say, but i have to say something. did he say's going to c cut back to the later hours? >> i said i believe he said earlier. >> that's what i was thinking.
[inaudible]. late-night is what were trying to having the problem with because it's right in front of call. people are getting out to eat late at night. that's pretty much what i have to say. >> thank you very much. >> please statement for the record >> your know so. >> next speaker, please. >>i don't know how much time i get to 3 min., mining his family ross island san francisco cards concession. i been doing mobile food in the city for 41 years. this the first permit i've ever posted it. i'm not posted because mr. singh. he's a fine again i have a problem with the way that
permits have been granted in yellow zones and i like to educate the board as to what the problems are with these yellow zone. if we were here tonight because the dpw had put a food truck in a blue zone, everybody would say how can you do that. that is specifically for handicap access for disabled access. if the dpw came back and said well we give the permit. that to mta to write the ticket that would seem a little odd. it's not any different for yellow zones. yellow zones are the blue zones and white zones are actually defined by state. i talked to a traffic engineer and other code section. while news about these can say what hours of those zones can operate, they can't change the nature of those zones. so, these conversations were debated rather extensively, and the dpw's own regulation says that two trucks food trucks, it says
>> overhead, please >> is of the mmf shall comply with all curbs on regulations. the mmf shall comply with all existing curb zones is approved by sf mta. and mta regulations 913 b2 says a mobile food the silly permit does not exempt it from times and the time limit is 30 min. there's nobody in the city that's allowed to park in a yellow zone for more than 30 min. and you get a ticket for either pc 33.3 what tc-38 pc 33.3 what tc-30 8b for overtime parking in a yellow zone. there are times yellow zones are not in effect like 99 post rate after 6 pm. in on weekends. i would've no problem with mr. singh being there. but during 7 am-6 pm, that is a metered yellow zone, which means
-you can see it here. it is no stopping from 7 am-6 pm. so, that means that any trucks that parking that yellow zone from 7 am-6 pm can only be there for 30 min.-6 pm. so, that means that any trucks that parking that yellow zone from 7 am-6 pm can only be there for 30 min. if there's a meter they have to feed the meter and if there's no meter they still have to be there for 30 min. so, what happened was that the dpw-can i have more time >> you can finish your last thought >> the dpw went and met with the mta and the mta considered for alternatives. you can see that the one i highlighted in yellow was one alternative was to allow two part for extended next in yellow zones and they rejected that. specifically, the language says, allowing
trucks to asked park in yellow zones was contrary to the intent of yellow zones provide learning opportunities for merchants. having a food trucks occupied a yellow zone for extended permit- >> thank you very much. >> next speaker, please. >> hi my name is claude him but with the union square business improvement district my position as director of streets and tj initiatives from here on data might director karen flood. we are in support of dpw's denial of this application for 46 geary st. for the reasons that we provided to you via a letter with supplemental pictures. on february 11. there are three main points that we have with
this particular permit the delete permitting in union square. first of all, permitting in units where it contradicts the legislative intent. the legislative intent. i don't know if this is going to show. let me just briefly read that under supervisor wiener's amendment, it was very clear in the finding this legislation attempts to provide and expand the range of convenience and interesting food consumption opportunities for mss in underserved and less congested areas of the city at different times of the day. it also goes on to say the city is i think dpw mentioned must exercise care and consider public safety in appropriate locations for msf. that includes limited on street parking discouraging unloading and top of zones and avoiding double parking. so, we want to
be clear the union square. the motor 27 block area, which has a budget of $3.3 million to keep union square clean and safe and attractive for visitors and make it world-class, does not oppose mobile food trucks in that district in fact, now working with some vendors are putting them in bayview lane and kempton on a pilot basis. however, we feel the legislative intent of the permitting for mfs to serve what we call food deserts. areas not served by food establishments in other parts of visited fort mason being an example. secondly, issues of pedestrian congestion and safety. if i can have the overhead. this is the front of 46 ci street. high-end retail call paul smith. this is a side view and you have this information in your pocket.
this is an example right here of a truck, excuse me, a vehicle that's blocking 46 geary. you can see how it would obstruct the sidewalk. here is an example of a food truck that was allowed beyond the street and you can see the pedestrians cuing up blocking the sidewalk. that's exactly what we're trying to avoid. it's congestion on erie street and other important ordinance that's not making it a pedestrian orientated district. thirdly, it was mentioned yellow zones. i know they need to reiterate yellow zones were not intended for that and lastly who trucks block sightlines not only for the safety of the merchants but of the visitors as well as you probably read in the news ferragamo was robbed and food trucks would certainly have blocked the sidelines and visibility of that angle. thank you for your time. >> next speaker, please.
>> any questions? >> good evening, everyone. my name is is-. i work in financial district for company names aircraft management. i'm supporting by surveyors. i been working there for two years office trouble having by food i like in that area i love any into. it's part of my culture and it be nice to have indian food around that area. there's less often. indian food in that area, there are a few but there are like a long wait. it's hard for us to manage time to get there, by food and come back. so there's more options for us it would be less crowded and get back to work as soon as possible. so, i'm supporting
446 geary st. i would like him to have that around that area. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> hi, everyone. my name is-i would like to speak in favor of the food truck proposed by arjun singh. i love indian food and there are not many food truck options to carry indian food. they tend to of really got. i'm in favor of 214 battery st. location. which is near my work. it be great if i can have that option where i work. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> any of the public comment on this item? seeing none,, mr. cingular 3 min. of rebuttal. >> one thing i'm going to say on geary street the [inaudible]
to the end of the street five bucks on the same street going up and down. also, i see a lot of food trucks in the city close to a lot of restaurant. working out and find these locations the only thing we had in mind is that there's no restaurants in that area. if you look at all the--this is actually going to be the food truck it. it's on the same street and most of the restaurants are like one block away on the other side of the block of the food. same goes for exhibit b to. this is the food truck here. most of the restaurants would be-two blocks away or one block away. it's
very hard for us. we have placed the restaurants are not that close by. also, i have a photograph. it's a very narrow street but every time people come to geary street, is a food truck which it covered more than 2.5 parking meters. our food truck is covering only one parking me. if you enter the street from market street you can see on the right-hand side assigned that's opting out of the business. coming from the other side you can see vehicles
the weight spark between two businesses with the parking meter is loki. you can clearly see the business is displaying walk him down that street. the only reason for us to also having yellow zone is that, on that street video zones go all the way down. so are willing to follow all the rules and regulations for the permit. >> thank you. are you finished. i have a question. as the department has stated, the loading zones are 30 min. how are you planning to comply with your food truck been there for 30 min. only? >> will be parking further minutes rotating and then will come back and parked another 30 min. >> thank you. >> mr. shaw's. >> public works. just to reiterate a couple points, one, as i mentioned before the as i
said, the resident is no longer within our requirements or basis for approving or denying. in addition, the main basis for this denial was on the board of supervisors ordinance 11913 which states we should strive to locate areas less congested and underserved areas as well as discourage infringement on loading and drop zones. it can seem these are relatively congested and well served areas and it can be seen that these are 100% dedicated to loading zones for businesses. >> thank you. >> okay commissioners the matter is up to you. >> i'm in agreement those areas are highly congested. sorry, i can't support the deal on that basis. >> i just don't see how it
works. >> i concur. >> would anyone like to make a motion? >> move to deny the appeal on the basis the department's findings are accurate. >> we have a motion by the vice president to deny the appeal and uphold the denial of the appellant that the department's findings are accurate. on a motion, commissioner lazarus aye, honda, skype wilson aye swig aye. the motion carried 5-0 and the denial of the permit is upheld. item number five has been continued to march 16. so we will call item number six appeal number 15-202. maria douglas versus department of building inspection with planning department approval
for a property at 445 amazon ave. but when the issuance on december 15, 2015 to paul sam when alteration permits the motion of the legal pigeon on first floor the motion of the legal two-bedrooms and convert to storage. we will start with the appellant, accounts representative. >> good evening, members. my name is ryan murphy. i represent-an attorney representing the tenant at 45 amazon ave. >> can i have a second. >> thank you for your patience.
>> sorry for the delay. >> no problem. >>i appreciate your patience. thank you. please proceed >> as i stated earlier, i am the pro bono attorney for one of the tenants, or the tenants, maria dallas. she lives at 445 amazon with her daughter and husband. they've lived there for 10 years. last year, the permit holder purchase the property and has been
attempting to evict her. he's attempted to do it indirectly by cutting off the gas and oil and electricity. denying access to the garage. as reporting of a door to the garage and that matters because that's how she gets her mail. she issued a unlawful detainer action. that's kind of when i stepped in to the bar association of san francisco. the court, basically, shot down that action and they withdrew their case. so, this is their third attempt to evict or using the permit process. they have applied to demolish the downstairs unit, and we are arguing that the permit is defective. mostly
because the application was misleading. in the permit application was misleading, it was sort of filed in bad faith on the one hand. it was also misleading and sort of more technical way. on the one hand the permit doesn't say that anyone lives in the unit. it just is demolish, take out a kitchen and turned bedrooms into storage but this is some of these home. so, in a sense that was done in bad faith. even by the rules, the city planning codes the permit is defective because the csc company issued without other work being performed. that other work will require a permit could not speak about
that right now. pat bosco bitch was a structural engineer did an inspection of the unit. he's going to talk about that. but i like the board, i would like to ask the board and the department of building inspection to really pay attention to the permit holder because he is a serial developer. he flips homes . i don't know what his history is evicting other tenants. i know that he is had a lot of shady dealings with other individuals. there is one here today and he'll talk about that. i looked online recently
-overhead, please. >> these are properties he's purchased in the past couple years and then sold. none of these properties, for none of these properties were permits applied for or issued. in a lot of these properties it was quite a bit of money those made off of it. so, my statement is that the permit holder is basically circumventing or ignoring the process by which you change units. apply for permits. the only reason he's applying for a permit in this case is because he wants to evict a tenant and he hasn't been able to do so by other means. >> thank you. commissioner
pat bosco misprint there to problems with a stronger flaw number one the rules have changed the new rules required notice given by planning on any unit removal. those rules apply since his board. the second issue is, is permit requires the csc. these are the rules for removal of the units in the csc's is required. downstairs is a full bath. there is no permits for that full bath. you can't come into an apartment and say, i'm going to remove-that is the kitchen. i'm going to remove the stove and the sink and believe all the cabinets there. none of them built with a permits. i'm not going to touch the bathroom because maybe i'm going to put the unit back in. when you
remove the unit and you get a csc, you have to remove everything. you either remove it or legalize it. you also don't get to come in without a permit and take out all the wood windows and install vinyl windows on historic building. so, the permit, if they're going to move this unit after planning their process, you don't get to pick and choose what you want to keep so you can put it in later. if you comply with all the requirements of the code. you have to make sure the plumbing is right in the bathroom. the electrical is right and this permits selectively took out certain items so that they could be easily be put back. i think it is pretty straightforward. i've another minute of time, but i just be repeating myself. i just assume how this than those are common that they're entitled to, which i want to thank this commission for asking for it get this commission had a lot to do with getting tenants notice before
their units were moved. thank you. >> quick question. would you mean removing soda can be put back? >> well if you have a legal unit and you come in and say him to pull a permit to remove the stove, but everything else in that unit including the bedroom was built in an old garage, you selectively can't come in and just remove certain elements that are legal. the film legalize everything or remove it, and the reason is, because of unit removals you get a certificate of final completion. >> that's what i get. i'm talking about the windows. >> the project-the owner of the building took out all the wood windows and put in vinyl windows about nine months ago. the windows he took out were bedroom windows that required double hung windows to meet the egress requirements. now they put in vinyl windows that don't work for egress. >> okay, thank you. >> thank you. >> i have a question for counsel. you showed a map of
other properties owned by the permit holder that were purchased or whatever. were there innovations in any of these parties? >> i don't know the answer that >> you said there were no other permits at those parties? >> let me be clear. no permits issued for the properties-i will put this back up. there were no permits issued during the period for which, in which, the current permit holder owned of those properties. so we purchase them and sold them and the were no permits during that period. >> thank you. >> we can hear from the permit holder now. >> good evening, ladies and
gentlemen. minus andre sanchez appeared for permit holder paul sam. thank you for hearing this this evening. first, we are going to this appeal be denied on the grounds the appellant has failed to carry her burden. in her brief, she cites to grounds for denial of the permit. then, one additional essentially an appeal to go outside the law as far as this permit is concerned. you can actually tell it permit holders presentation at restart would appeal to outside the law. essentially saying this permit should be revoked because if it's possible to legalize the unit permit holder should be forced to do so. that's contrary to the law. the city has made its policy clear that, in fact such activity is voluntary. that is actually been reformed lately in this zoning district that is only a voluntary provision. mr. sam
actually bought this property for use as primary residence. in the brief we submitted we actually included a partially redacted copy of this purchase agreement. if you don't mind i like to put it up on the screen, please. it's in the breeze, but it specifies that in paragraph 5, he intends to occupy the property as primary residence and that is to be delivered vacant. mr. sam did not begin the tenancy with these folks. he cannot allow that to occupy the property. we purchased the property was unaware of their residency. immediately after purchasing the property we found out someone was living there he took the appropriate action, which was bring suit against
the former property owner. the appellant put herself into that action provided discovery indicating she was a tenant. at that point mr. sam voluntarily discontinued the eviction action. despite what you are told, the court shot nothing down. we actually provided a copy of our dismissal along with our brief. here, the goal of permit holder is restore the property back to its legal use. so the first argument they made about the permit was it's misleading because it didn't say this could be a change in occupancy. that's not correct. the rule is, you are supposed to specify what it's legal occupancy is. that's exactly what is done in the permit. so they're not that get anywhere with that argument. the brief they indicate the permit issued a certificate of final completion cannot be issued on a permits. that is also incorrect because simply
restoring it back to legal use did not require the issuance of a certificate of final completion. i would also like to point out that for the permit was applied for not only was the appellant notified. her attorney was also notified that mr. sam was going to be applying for permit for demolition. this pre-notification was intended to satisfy any due process concerns and, in fact, lead to exactly what we are having here. she was made aware of the permits. then she had opportunity to appeal the permits to this board today. so, there argued that it was a father to brighter notice of this frankly, is moved. she filed her appeal. she had proper notice. so the permit is valid as five as far as that fact. i would like to briefly respond to a couple of things that were brought up in the presentation you just heard good and in the brief. since
appellant cannot argue the law they're attempting to attack the person, mr. sam. frankly, mr. sam real estate history is not at issue here and frankly was not in their brief. this is new information mr. murphy is provided i do not believe he was sworn in so therefore anything he says cannot be considered evidence including his demonstration of properties owned by mr. sam could likely have not had chance to review. i don't know if that's accurate or not. i would suggest the board would be justified in disregarding that portion of it. also, he brought out more allegations about bad faith. i think he said serial developer flipping homes. these are all
potentially pejorative terms that are intended to distract the board from focusing on the law. instead, to attempt to engender bad feelings towards the permit holder. frankly, the permit holder is an upstanding member of the committee. he purchased his own in good faith as primary residence. he was fairly shocked to find your people living downstairs. i believe this is also the floor with the water heater is in the garage. by ligaments not safer there to people residing downstairs. he is not able to move into his own because he doesn't want to share it with strangers. meanwhile, appellant has been completely resistant to any possible way to resolve this matter. we tried multiple occasions and were to work out some kind of an resolution it not only of a vent on interested, they have made it clear what no matter what their then i continue obstructing this process. so, i would suggest to matter what was in the permits they would've filed this appeal. i really don't have anything more to add and am willing to take questions. >> anyone up first? i have several. does your client have another property in san
francisco? >> i believe-at least not currently residing in the country i believe is south of san francisco at the moment. he is-is myers in its temporary housing that he's waiting for this to become available so that he can move into his own >> does the own any san francisco in other than this property? >> not that i'm aware of >> when he purchased the property duty-the listing agent? i don't see another agent. >> the property was rc but as a short sale. i believe there was a joint brokerage agreement was part of it. that's part of the problem here is that in the sales contract it says it's one to be delivered vacant. however it wasn't >> the other question i have prior to closing there's a five day walk through of the
property. did your client ever inspect the property? >> my understanding, no, the property was not inspected article. >> so the your client closer property without doing any visual inspection. >> that is my understand your >> also, are you aware of the- >> i recall this concert could have the five-day provision in it?. it's a short step. visit do have a full ca are some pretty sure that's in it. >> okay >> are you currently aware of the work is being performed without permits? >> i'm not aware of any work is performed without permits. frankly considering the litigious nature of the appellant if there was such a matter unsurprised if not taken action regarding it. my understand is no notice of violation on the property right now. as far as the allegation that they would obstruct back >> i got my question answered. thank you. >> thank you. if we could
hear from the department now. >> mr. sanchez. >> thank you, good evening scott stan sanchez planning department. of the pretty break. the permit was reviewed by the planning department in the middle of december were the illegal unit. this scope of work as stated on the permits was to remove the kitchen that convert the bedrooms two bedrooms in the ground level to storage. their plans on file with that permit as well. it does seem that at the time about everything was reviewed appropriately, at least at our level. the department of the inspection may have concerns about what was shown on the plans and not shown on the plans, but the intention to recent legislation was adopted enacted by the board of supervisors, at the urging of this board last year a letter
sent because we have seen many types of these projects come before it where there has been no notification. so, notification requirement has been imposed. it's been both the building and planning cuts. was adopted as part of ordinance 208 15. it added subsection g to subsection 311 requiring a written and posted notice for removal of units and requiring notification to people who reside even unauthorized dwelling units that became effective on january 8, 2016 after the time we were using this permit, but before the date of this hearing. this is a de novo hearing as i understand where to apply the law of the day which would include this new notification requirement. given those facts it seems the permit that the appeal should be granted and the permit should be denied that the permit should be reapplied for the current notification
requirements in the planning code. in regards to requirements for legalization of units, it is true that currently that is voluntary. there's pending legislation induced by supervisor avalos, and being reviewed by the building inspection that would require that someone seeks a legalized the mobile of-seek to legalize illegal unit before removing it. it's more complicated than that but that's the gist of it. so, that would be the policy shift. generally, we are encouraging retention of units. there have been many programs over the last few years that allow for the creation for legalization of units that could not otherwise be illegal as because of density. unless that was a big problem before. no longer is one. it waved a slew of clinical requirements and were making progress in legalizing units. that's really something
that they could avail themselves off to legalize the unit. i'm available for any questions. >> i've got one. understanding that supervisor avalos has installed or proposed legislation that would require mandatory legalization, greg? >> yesterday require authorization to remove in illegal units and they would have to-the goal be to have them demonstrate they can't legalize it. so the burden would be you have to go to a commitment conditional lease process to remove in illegal unit. >> so, how does that work with planning in respect to say, someone has a property and you may have five illegal units in there and the zoning is single-family. if they're able to do the property codes, does that mean you now can put six units in it? >> no. the final details they
cannot completely worked out but they would have to be legalize civil. in this case the unit can be legalize. this would be something that it's not in excess of the density that you could legalize because you're allowed to legalize one units over the density. so, they can easily do that. our department would likely recommend that they legalize that units. it seems is something to be fairly straightforward >> the last question i have, mr. sanchez, regarding the within windows in the façade has changed. i would both be a dbi as well as a planning notice of violation, greg? >> fishing with building permits without permit it would have concerns about it if they did not do proper replacement of the wood windows. i would note the mothers of permitting from 2003 for windows replacement of nine windows. there's a view from the street.
i tried to look at some historic photos wasn't queer and queer tomatoes illegal window placement has occurred that something would need to be further investigated i don't see any immediate evidence of that. >> thank you. >> inspector duffy. >> good evening, commission should joe duffy dbi. the building permit demolition the kitchen the legal two bedrooms converted to storage was issued as a permit on 15 december 20 15th it is approved by city planning as you heard in our dbi slant check. just a couple -there are no active compliance assertions that was work done without a permit reported to dbi in the form of a complaint.
we will look into that. for windows or whatever work they've done. the other properties as well it was alleged was work done on those we would be welcome to assign and a sector investigate that as we do on a daily basis. the just looking at the plans there in the brief, the one thing i noticed was that the attorney is saying that they're bringing the earlier back to this last legal you get there taken out a stove it looks like an removing some cabinets. taking out two beds. saying that the last legal you. with all those rooms down there not labeled as stores. i'm not so sure and there's a bathroom down there as well-i do know that property-most of those properties when they were both had one bathroom. the two-story with one bathroom and very few
have a legal bathroom on the ground. the bathroom on the plans is not referenced as being altered. so, i'm not sure if more research needs to be done. the other thing is, where the storage rooms partially constructed with a permit and it's divided up as you can see. i can put it on the over it to let you see what i'm referencing.in this area. this is showing a bathroom. there's no reference to on the building permit. i don't know if that was legal or not. again, these areas on the existing plan is his bedroom, bedroom, existing kitchen did no order call a storage room. storage room. it was some sort of a hallway here and then this area here come up
i think they take out the cabinets but i'm not sure. so, is that the last legal use, i don't. that's what their plans are to train. we take people at their faith they cement plants that are showing in accurate condition, but sometimes in the past we have seen this done and then we signed off and then it just changes back to what it was again. so we might need and do more research that the storage rooms were actually existing because most of these houses in my experience you have a garage and have a full basement pretty open to either house like that. unless you want to put in this divider wall and split these up which is fine, but again, there is no evidence anywhere this was actually where this property was built originally or any subsequent permits. since new construction to divide the ground floor up into a hallway to my three storage rooms and a
bathroom. just something i spotted when i was researching. i am available for any questions. >> mr. duffy, other than that 2003 permits that mr. sanchez talked about, no research has been done to see if there were any permits done in the last whatever number of years that would've created the structures on the? >> no, i do not do any research. not yet. >> so, if properly executed after was demolition, then what you're saying we would expect everything that's down in that basement to disappear as part of the demolition? including the bathroom unless the bathroom was previously permitted as noted in research?
>> yes. if they're going to do this part of the demolition i mean to waste of time to do. you do it once also. legalize it do whatever you want to do. mr. moskowitz did hani 83-the romo reported in 1945 there was a fire at the get we did get a cfc for that one family drunk but that didn't happen the plants that are not really that good. sometimes we can look up the city assessor's records to the number of rooms, which would cause the bathrooms, but there was a permit in 0349 windows and a new moving permit and 99. in 87 they did a kitchen. with some dry rotted windows. so the permit history is pretty good but i don't know what was done on the ground floor. >> is it clear whether that kitchen was permitted on the
top part quickly >> probably up stairs i would agree it is probably wise result because they spent the money. might be a few questions with it. the notification process you heard about from mr. sanchez good dbi has one as well that came in after this permit got issued. it got adopted in january. that's another thing dbi is doing on notification. because of the illegal units for the tenants. >> i've a question. because of the new legislation that has passed from a it indicates once of the single-family residence that once they have booted out or close those illegal rooms down there no longer able to put them back in. is there something in-i'm asked the same question planning as well-is there something in dbi computer will now stipulate that so if
in the future this property changes hands again it comes back being red tag not the type but not being able to apply for permits on the lower level? >> that's a good question that i don't know to be answered to that. i know there's been a lot of legislation brought in discussions and planning and building i think planning will oversee that more than us because usually when you come in for the building permit to do any work on the ground floor of the building it would go through planning first on the zoning and everything and then the use and then would go to the building department for the. we would always route that thing to planning. maybe mr. sanchez can speak on that >> because in the past when we have big surge was a lot of special restrictions that were noted in property deeds, and now with new legislation those are no longer in effect. so maybe mr. sanchez can, and that as well >> it's a pretty new thing even today when i was researching like at some
trouble dbi just getting paperwork. because everything is in. so there is things in place but not everyone is up to speed on it just yet. we are aware of it and we think there's things that everything is being done correctly after the need new legislation came in but a lot of it is new. as you know illegal units are hot topic. he took >>. we took mr. duffy your new superduper computer system should take care that should net? i have a question. >> i'm not involved in the program. i'm looking forward to. >> i think, historically, we've had elimination of or reduction of units whether a legal or not. that other nation
in reduction has taken a number of different courses. sometimes it involves the illumination of all the utilities to the source, right versus what's alleged in terms of the cabinets and other things. i don't recall bathrooms being a big issue, although it has been brought up before in terms of production from a full bath to a half-bath. historically, we've gone through those kinds of positions >> you are definitely right on appeared on this permanent building permit as well would require separate birds of building permit to remove any illegal wiring or plumbing worked back to the source. that usually is to the source. that has to be done and that's it good point commissioner fung.
the bathroom, you're right there's not usually as much attention paid to those. there is some rooms with planning departments in regard to a full bath and a half-bath on the ground for. then of course the access, the direct access to the exterior and then the communicating between the floors mr. sanchez knows all about that but there is that,, some rooms but again what i'm saying here is that when you're legalizing removing stuff on the ground floor and be something that you legalize. that bathroom may not be legal but there's a chance to do. they could do it under a separate permit theoretically but i think it's definitely a question that went okay taking care of the kids. with the bathroom put in without a permit, was it not, we don't know. >> we can take public comment now. whoever would like to speak least afford. forward. please step forward. >> good afternoon good everyone in the room, my name is kept only nobody can. otto
came to my house in 2012 and he told me he wanted to buy my house to move in his family. however, it was actually the otto. his sister that was buying the house. i was told and just finished a three-week trial against the [inaudible]. the jury ruled against [inaudible] for fraud, then breach of duty. it's the same agent as in this case. i'm still trying to see so i can i can say too much about this case, but i want to inform the court that his family will move
in, but it does not mean it is true. thank you. >> thank you. >> any of the public comment? seeing none, norther public comment on this item we will start with our rebuttal, mr. you have 3 min. mr. >> thank you. i do want to say that the claim that mr. sam wants to move in to replace that he never checked out before buying is dubious at best. i actually would like maria, the tenant to speak. >> my name is maria dallas.
>> maybe we can even estimate if needed. >>i definitely think that sam is not intending to move in to my home. because of that people coming in to see the place. potential buyers. >> my understanding is also sam as the owner of the building , he did know that there were people living there. before sam
was represented by this attorney another attorney came to the house and offered me $3000 to leave the house. because sam did not want any problems. and i did not want that money. that's all. thank you. >> i have a question. did she ever meet mr. sam? >> no. >> no conversations >> only his wife >> so she did meet his wife? >> yes. >> okay, thank you. >> thank you. >> how much time is left? >> i just want to point out cfc does require the rules for the city do require six cfc for
unit removal. it is a full bathroom not a half-bath. that was built without a permit and the windows, i know i'm not from 10 years ago. planning has a good resource where you can go back to-three years and two years ago on the planning website they have would've windows. so these were placed within the last year. thank you. >> we can hear rebuttal from the permit holder. >> thank you, ladies and jim a belief brief rebuttal. again, but we've been seeing is a focus on the people not on the law. as far as ms. boykin, i really don't know anything about her plans. i never met her before so i cannot speak to them. i will note she indicated her litigation was not against mr. sam. it was against a agent who she says is the same agent
as in this matter. i agree, i really don't think it has anything to do with mr. sam. as far as the allegation that the final completion is required, in my brief, we go over what's not required. just simply restoring back to last legal condition and as far as this issue of the bathroom downstairs, mr. duffy even indicated that no evidence to indicate that bathroom wasn't part of the original construction. he says it may be unusual for that type of home, but they can't find any evidence regarding it. ever, i would suggest the issue of the bathroom really is irrelevant to our proceedings here. no one has been able to produce any evidence that bathroom was not part of the original construction. it was not part of the permit that was applied for here. as far as the issue of the ancillary permit, the plumbing electrical permits my understanding is the typical procedure is to first get the demolition permit and then seek
the additional permits before undertaking that specific work. so the argument that by not seeking every additional ancillary permit at the outset somehow invalidates the instant permit i think that is incorrect. in fact the motion permit can be sought and pulled first, and then plumbing electrical permits can be pulled later. that's it for my rebuttal. thank you much >> i have a question. these omitte a purchase a in your brief but i see it's been whited out. >> on the first page? >> at this point i don't know what's been whited out and what is not in whited out. you get his adopted agreement >> in the brief i specified it has been redacted. the first page knows my decision but i redacted out the financial terms of it. i didn't think they were relevant to this proceeding and i did that or protect the privacy of the parties. that was my decision.
that do not come from mr. simpson delivered actions made were as to the actual purchase price. that's it. >> so were the realtors who handled this? >> it was fidelity brokers >> they represented both parties on this? >> yes, they do >> there is only one buyer on this, see one name on it but as far as the titles there's only one buyer on this? >> yes, it's just mr. sam. >> thank you. >> thank you. we will hear from the other mr. sanchez. >> scott sanders sanchez planning department. i believe i don't have much to back it i did look at our profile from the assessor's office and says
there's one bathroom in the property. i would assume that's in the upper level not in the basement. i don't have anything to add to the noticing comment i made earlier that the project does require notice. that's a code requirement. it's minor standard must be applied as such the permit should be rejected but i'll answer any question. i know commissioner honda had questions maybe earlier >> i mean, so again regarding the restrictions because of new legislation has been enacted, is there something that will come up on your website or dbi's website. further development but that lower section if they choose to move that area? >> are you saying if the permit is denied here and they come back in for new permit- >> let me clarify. for example the permit is upheld and allowed to remove the illegal work that's been done. the way
the new legislation is written there not able to ever put that back in. correct? >> correct. they cannot add a dwelling unit that given the density and rh-one disc. big illegal is that as a second unit but once it's gone it can be restored under the current zoning under the current requirements. they can develop space on the ground floor in accordance with the current zoning, which would allow the bathroom and bedrooms at the lower level under planning to. it just would not allow the kitchen which is one of the linchpins for creating a second. >> in the past with special restrictions imposed but is a deed restriction. is that going to be the case in this current- >> no. that's not standard practice them. it has not been standard practice when baby removal of illegal units were we would put a restrictions aim is limited to a single family dwelling. that's no longer the practice has not been for probably a decade or two. we realize just on the fact of the zoning and actually, they just
usually what the state the light is entering >> when you see properties that have special restrictions, does that of any enforcement or any beef to it now with this >> it depends on what the special restrictions but let's say we had someone that came in the decade were t wrote go for rooms on the front for and rh-two district where consumer was going on with second floor could be construed as illegal units to clarify this a single-family loan. they could come in now and do a second unit there because the zoning would allow that. we want to clarify the record we spent that notice a special restrictions but there's nothing in the lotto prohibit them from developing the property >> normally what you saw was that special restrictions no habitation or no one could live on that level? so that has no
meaning at this point? speed it would depend but it was imposed by the planning commission by another review of the process. i think we want to look at the cases. i'm tempted to say it is not by but generally if the building allows you to develop it as a process to remove that. >> thank you very much. >> inspector duffy. >> commissioners, joe w dbi. i don't have much to add. i don't think i said the bathroom on the ground floor was legal. i just do not have that information. however, mr. sanchez is able to look up the city assessor's records and shows the building has won legal bathroom. sometimes we use that but that's what the assessor's records have as one bathroom would you be the bathroom on the second floor i would imagine. >> mr. duffy, does that mean they should be removing it? >> they could adjust it that i have to address it out it just a point of order when you're
taking care of the kitchen but don't you get the bathroom legalized if that's the right thing to do. but they didn't put it on there. it's a good time to do it. they could do it under separate permit of course. >> businesslike selective demolition? it's like the reverse of serial promoting. i am trying to take this illegal unit that i like this part some going to because i like this part some going to keep this. if you do demolition of illegal units would seem to me that you would have to demo the entire thing. you would not have a choice am going to keep that bathroom especially since we know it's illegal in the first phase. >> it's pointing to that the assessor's records and we use that a lot in determining what we don't have a plan going back on an old dumb. there's never
any drugs. so we have a lot for determining number of units. number of rooms. the bathrooms. as well. so, selective demolition, you could say it is that. he's taken up the kitchen, but leaving everything is. i don't know what the number of rooms were on the ground floor before. we are allowing them to keep these rooms as storage and keep the bathroom but we don't know it was illegal or not. it's not-it just a point to make. i'm not saying there is no notice of violation of property making him do that from us. i just want to point it out to the board. >> thank you. >> commissioners, the matter is submitted. >> so, regardless of anything else that is the permit is love because the proper notice wasn't given to the tenant. i would move-well,
>> i would make a motion >> all moved to hold the appeal and deny the permit on the basis that tenant was not properly noticed about the issuance of the permit >> you mean revoke the permit >> excuse me. revoke it. thank you. >> weave a motion than by commissioner lazarus to grant the appeal and deny the permit. on the basis that the tenant was not properly notice. under the current law. >> correct >> on that motion, vice president fung aye, honda aye wilson aye swig got. that motion carried 5-0. commissioners, the last item on your calendar is the board consideration of the budget proposal for fiscal years 2016-17 and 2017-18.
you have a set of slides, if you will or pages that outline my proposal for these budgets what i thought i would do is give you a brief overview of the status of your current year budget and then explain the proposal for the next two budget years. a few months back, when i was giving you the annual reports i mentioned that there was a proposal about making our budget a two-year fixed budget. that legislation did not move forward. it's been tabled so were still on a rolling two-year budget cycle. we are not doing a two-year six budget and what you have before you is a rolling budget. the first two pages of the handout are familiar to him not to go into them in great detail due to information of our two revenue streams or charges apply to current application that citywide and filing fees.
there is also information about the expenditure budget and how is divided off. we still have a pretty similar ratio expenses as we have been in past years. the majority of our budget covers salary and fringe benefits for staff and the rest , the majority of the west goes to work orders for other people but our city attorney and smg tv department of technology and the little bottle money we spend for other services we get outsourced for some infrastructure material. if you look at page 5 of the handout is he met projections for appeals for the current year. it looks like we'll probably come in right around the 10 year average of 188 appeals for you. might go a little higher than that. just yesterday we received 10 new appeals, all of three removal permits that we heard together. so, but we been getting unusually this year these large chunks of appeals all once so they're making our numbers change a little bit. right now
we have 134 appeals year to date as we made up going a little higher than the 10 year average. looking at occurrence year budget revenue respecting surpluses about revenue stream for filing fees. we may be at size 47-50% are projections and i think that is in large part due to those 35 find permit appeals that gave us almost half of our filing fee budget in one fell swoop. we are also looking at a surplus in surcharge revenue if we continue to generate that revenue as we have been so far year to date and so we might end the year with about $123,000 in surplus revenue. on the
expenditure side, we are excepting some expenditure savings. we get us to staff vacancies as you may recall in the beginning of the fiscal year to have some salary savings there. we have also projected some savings in our sfgov tv expenditure. we'll have a little flexibility in outline item because we don't know along our board meetings are going to run and how much going to cost to cover us. you're today, we are doing quite well in terms of our city attorney hours.i'm not sure if oregon and a year quite as well as we been going so far. i have some news for you on that front. a deputy city attorney robert ryan is going to be moving to some different assignment. we are going to have a new attorney tom owen is here now. he may not be here long term but he'll be here for a while. eventually, will be getting a new attorney. sometimes we have a new attorney depend on how familiar they are with the board, our expenditure for that particular line item may go up a little bit because they've a learning curve. >> do not differ in price based on expense, right >> they actually are differently price. based on
expense. that my changes well. >> ever hear of billable hours quicker >> that's a little bit interested i'm also expecting a sensor savings on specialized service line item. again we were little wiggle room in that area. we use that money to pay for the majority of them i goes to pay for the company that gives us the neighborhood notification materials and so depending on how many appeals or how complex those are, it depends on how much will spend. i do expect we'll have about $67,000 or so in expenditure savings. if we combine that with the surcharge and filing fee surpluses were looking at about $190,000 in surplus before the year is over.
hopefully, we will find ourselves ending the year in the black and if we do we'll put any of those funds in our rainy day fund in case we find ourselves in a different circumstance sometime down the road we need to get some extra help. turning to the budget for the next two fiscal years, starting again with revenue, we do get most of our funding through surcharge revenue and the rate for the surcharge is that each year a fresh. so we get some information about our peel volume. we get information aware the appeals are coming from and also from the various departments on projected permit applications volume. all of that information is combined to figure out whether or not the surcharge rate should be adjusted. that analysis happens a little later in the cycle and also at this point in time there is no hard data on that but were not expecting there to be a need to address the surcharge rate. if that does happen, the controller can adjust it by the rate of inflation and higher adjusting is needed then we would need legislation. so that would come
a little bit later in the legislative prospect >> me interrupt you. i was confused by this now i think i understand. you are saying your proposed budget anything would be status quo, but if things changed in the process of the budget getting approved and we wouldn't have a deficit, then the controller's office would adjust the surcharges? >> this to pieces. i can understand why might be confused. the first piece i'm talking about is the rates. how much do each of the individual coming together to get a permit pay for their surcharge. that adjustment, if there is one need would be worked out a little later in the process. i don't think we will need one based on what our budget proposal is. if we were to get data back from one of the departments that said we think would have a significant decline in the volume of permit applications, next year, then we would to maybe adjust the rate to still recover the amount of revenue we need to get from that particular departments. or, if the volume of appeals for one of the departments shoots up dramatically then maybe their share of the
board's budget needs to increase. so, that's that these were not 100% clear on that comes a little bit later in the process. what i am suggesting, however, we make a small adjustment in the projected revenue. not in the rate, not in what we charge the individual but in how much we project were going to recover from surcharges. i want to do that because our expenditure budget is going to grow up a little bit. i want to make sure we read balanced budget and because we've had surpluses in our surcharge revenue the last couple of years and were projecting another one this year, it seems reasonable to increase the projected revenue from surcharges to cover the increase in expenditures >> there's a little bit of a dark throw right? i mean, >> yes. i feel very comfortable with it given what we have in terms of surpluses in the past two years and in terms of what the increase amount would be.
>> but it is a projection quivers >> it's absolutely a projection, that is correct. last year we had $134,000 surplus in surcharges. the year before 133. the year before that 99,000. so, were looking at 29-23,000 in the two-year did it this small amount but yes, it is always a question mark in any year. >> sure. i was confused by the rates and the revenue question. >> so, that sort of my-that covers the surcharge issued on filing fees am not suggesting any change because that's a small portion of our budget and we do tend to come up with a much around where we project although this year may be a little bit unusual. >> am i to assume that in 2008-2009 filing fees surcharges and everything else went down with the economy? >> yes >> at that time just
projecting into the future, i don't know when another downturn is going to come but as your projecting budgets, did you-were you able to get a hint that something was askew before the fiscal year 2008-29 to adjust that were did you get caught and like most everybody else? >> there were definite there were deficits not and 20 weight-2009 but earlier. at that time we had to take money from the general fund to cover our expenses. now we have our rainy day fund designed specifically to avoid that scenario in the future so that we would have a little bit of a state in the count waiting for us in case we do find ourselves in that circumstance again. the projections are really only as good as the city is able to project in terms of recession
in building activity and permit application activity. it definitely is a risk. so, on the expenditure side, as i said before we are looking at small increases in both budget years 3.2% for the first year, which is about $29,000 and 2.4% in the year to which is 23,000. these are all mandatory increases largely related to salary and fringe benefits. there's a little bit of an increase also with respect to the board's share of the cost to replace the city's financial system. the city is going to big effort to replace a very antiquated system and we all have to pay a piece of it. this would be our peace. that's the increase for the services of other departments. >> is that allocated proportional to the province budget somehow >> it is. our share is very small compared to most of the departments. so, my
recommendation then would be to increase the surcharge revenue projections as i've described to work with controller's office and mayor's office as we do on the surcharge analysis to see if there's any need for legislation to change the rates and then of course to continue to work closely monitoring our expenditures to make sure that we don't exceed our budget. there are some budget detail pages follow if you want more of the numbers good i'm happy to answer any questions you have and of course hoping for a motion to adopt these proposals. >> any questions? >> maybe more of a rhetorical question. it has been several years since i said this. we been talking about reducing a surcharge because the cost of business for permits and stop is high now, but you know when
you look at these numbers, even if we reduced it doesn't get far in terms of what the other departments that budgets in excess of 20-$30 million. >> i'll make that motion to accept the budget. >> is there any public comment? seeing none, on a motion to adopt the proposed budget, as president fung aye lazarus aye wilson aye swig aye. thank you so much. that motion carried 5-0 and there's no other business before the board tonight. >> >>[gavel] .
conversation, we would ask that you take it outside, so we can run this meeting as efficiently as possible. also, each person will have three minutes to comment under "public comment" on each item. if you would like to make public comment on an item that is not on calendar, but does fall under the jurisdiction of the recreation and parks commission, you may comment under item 4, "general public comment" and will be continued to item 13, if you do not have the opportunity on item 4. last, when you are making public comment, please address your remarks to the commission. the commission -- neither the commission, nor staff will respond to questions during public comment, but the commission may -- may ask staff to respond once public comment is done. so with that, we are on item 2, the president's report. >> i'm going to defer to comments made under another item. thank you. >> thank you.
any public comment on this item? being none, public comment is closed. we're on item 3 of the -- oh, before we get started, commissioner buell, item no. -- hold on -- item no. 11, the open space fund undesignated contingency reserve victoria manalo draves park. >> i know supervisor kim wants to address this issue and she will appear here at 10:30 and we'll call that item out of order when she is . ed with, that item 3, general manager's report. >> good morning, commissioners. a few announcements. as you know tpc harding park is one of the premiere golf courses in the nation, but it's operation staff is equally stop notch and have been awarded two awards by the tpc network for outstanding performance for 2015 and the tpc network is the pga's golf course
division that comprises owned and licensed golf courses and top performing courses are represented by the network and presented an award to significant any achievement. receiving such an award is a monumental accomplishment for any club in the network and we're really proud that we have some of the industry's best overseing our operation ateds harding park. to congrats to tom smith and his crew out there. it has been about 75 degrees, giant's fanfest has come and gone. pitchers and catchers have reported. so it's time to play ball. the 2016 san francisco youth baseball league season is set to begin. we ever our opening-day festivities on february 27th from 10 a.m. to 2:00 p.m., featuring team and player photos, baseball activities, raffle, food, team parade
emceed by none other than san francisco giants brooks moon. just across the street at hamilton rec center later that day, on february 27th from noon to 4:00 we encourage everyone to join rec and park, the western edition family resources urban series, the ywca and bridge the gap for the annual black month celebration, featuring spoken word, food, youth displays. the event is organized each year by our own renne strong, who is just awesome and does an amazing job at hamilton is really beloved by her co-workers and community alike. i hi think she has received favorable recognition here at this commission. moving through spinning march 12th, rec and parks with the department youth and families and san francisco unified school district and other city agencies for the summer -- annual summer resources
fair at pier 70. showcasing more than 150 free and low-cost summer programs for kids and this summer rec and park features more than 80 summer day camps from traditional like pine lake and silver tree to adventure camps fishing camps and each year our own summer camps are the most popular and affordable options for the [p-frpblt/]s and proud of our efforts to ensure that everyone has a chance to get out and play. offering nearly 5,000 camp scholarships each summer to the tune of roughly $750,000. overall we give away well over $1 million in program scholars, but the bulk of it is for kids during the summer. summer camp register begins march 19th. and registration for our general summer program schedule is march 5. visit sf rec online.org to visit our cat lozing. we're in the process of hiring more than 200 youth
for our summer recreation programs and where teens work side-by-side with our own recreation professionals to gain valuable work and leadership skills and also looking to fill summer position forcamp mather including lifeguards, camp mather camp assessances, cooks and bakers, program coordinators. so those interested in joining the sf rec and park team can find out more at sf rec.org and job aps.com. some really good news about the pending renovation of the golden gate park tennis complex, established in 1901, this historic 21-court facility hosts professional-level tournaments, leagues, camps and recreation play. our partner the san francisco tennis coalition is moving forward with a campaign to renovate the tennis complex. they have done some amazing work so far.
they've been able to raise some significant funds. they have got some preliminary ideas on design. they have got some great programmatic ideas and the first community meeting will be held thursday, march 10th at 6:00 p.m. at the county fair building. and i would like to encourage members of the public and our commissioners to attend to provide input at this early stage. i would real like to thank commissioner levitan for her involvement and support of this project, which is really moving. it's the little engine that could. and public tennis will. last, but in the least, extra ganza, save the date for our annual event in golden gate park march 26th from 11:00 a.m. to 3:00 p.m. featuring egg hunts, carnival rides, games, live entertainment, food trucks and the annual bbq cook-off between rec and park, the san francisco police department, and the san francisco fire
department. it is one of our four family-focused events that we do throughout the year, where we welcome familis to different spots in our park system for just some good old-fashioneds fun and tasty bbq. so that concludes my report. with the exception of this month in parks, which elton is going to queue up. we have a very special guest in our video, and special welcome.
i feel athletics is the heartbeat of this department. i am jimmy chen, one of the recreation supervisors for the sports and athletics competency. i have been work 31 years for the san francisco recreation and park department. along with my other supervisor jerry and our manager, we plan and prepare citywide recreation programs and special events. a typical day i go and i inspect our recreational facilities and its programs. i take the feedback, evaluate the feedback and assessing how we do to ensure that the park user and the participants are enjoying themselves, having a great experience in a safe environment. and celebrating the chinese new year for this month, it
>> that concludes the general manager's report. >> thank you. >> anyone wishing to make public comment on this item? being none, public comment is closed. we are now on item 4, general public comment, up to 15 minutes. anyone here wishing to make general comment, essentially on an item not on calendar today? being none, item 4 is closed. item 5, the consent calendar. anyone who would like to make public comment on the consent calendar? being none, public comment is closed. we do need a motion. >> entertain a motion. >> so moved. >> second. >> moved and seconded. all those in favor, say aye? >> aye? >> so move >> we are now on item 6, the election of officers. so [kph-eurpgs/]s, commissioners we're going to start with the election for president. i need a motion to open the
nominations for president, and then i need a second, and then i need a vote. can i get a motion? >> yes, i would like to continue the great -- >> oh, i apologize, it's not the actual nomination, but to open the nominations. >> so moved. >> second. >> all those in favor? >> aye. >> thank you. >> now -- now eloquence -- >> i thought you said elephants looking at the zoo. i would like to make a motion to have commissioner buell serve as president once again under his great leadership, he has kept the parks and open space on the right course and i think he will continue his fine work with the commission and the department. >> do we have a second? >> second. >> okay. all those in favor? >> aye. >> all those opposed? the
ayes have and congratulations commissioner buell! [ applause ] . >> thank you, i will wait for further nomination and they then make comments. >> moving to election of vice president to open nomination. >> so moved. >> second. >> thank you. nominations. >> with great respect and admiration and affection that i nominate allan low for vice president, who despite the fact that he went to the university of california at berkeley -- of is an esteems member of this commission and proud to call him a colleague and i hereby nominate you. >> is in >> there a second? >> second. >> all those in favor? >> i have one quick -- [laughter ] -- so if we have been having this election a week-and-a-half ago, i would have put in full, full
support. however, it has come to my attention that the honorable commissioner allan low has been spreading incriminating information about me -- the photo -- [laughter ] >> we had an agreement. we had a pinky-shake agreement. >> so with an understanding that photo will go no further. i'm happy to support this nomination. >> i'm deleting it. i'm deleting it. >> all those in favor? >> aye. >> any opposed? the as ayes have it. congratulations, commissioner low. [ applause ] . >> thank you. >> i wanted to thank my fellow commissioners. i genuinely appreciate the support, and the work that you all put in to make us
all look so good. let me comment on a few things that i think reflect this last year and the work of the commission: the commissioner reaffirmed its commitment to the job-training program at gleneagles golf course in mclaren and to encourage individuals sharing the generosity of time, talent and skills and naming the program mario del torre and commissioner harrison thanks for all you did novthat forward. we have had out of the open space contingency undesignated fund that the commissioners' portion we have seen pre-apprenticeship program and seen the walter hoss connector trail and thank you, commissioner bonilla and i know commissioner levitan participated in that as well. the improvement of the larson playground and the plane.
with that i thank commissioners levitan, low, and mcdonnell for using that portion of the fund. we also have an item on today's calendar, and i know commissioner kim, i believe is going to come and speak to that. so making sure it worked for the people as intended and we sent a message and thanking commissioner low for his work on that that "shadows matter on parks." and that we're trying to be as detailed, and attentive to that as we can, and i think commissioner low has brought us all to re-focus on the importance of the resolution and how we proceed. we've seen groundbreakings at south park, mclaren park, randall museum, which i think is going to be terrific.
they have done a great fundraising job and it's a unique piece for the city. we have seen the opening of the joe dimaggio playground and dolores park twice, in two phases and larson playground and beach chalet and parenthetickally to say that i'm delighted to see that the federal government wants to analyze fears that somehow this turf may be a threat, but so far there is no substantive evidence of that fact and so we have found, i think, a have good method to increase by 300% the use of these fields, and reduce the watering and everybody who sees them are stunned by them. so the opening of the kimball playground and buchanan street malay great community project that really reflects a unique transition of an area that opened up. i compliment the commission on moving that forward.
with that, the cadillac match play which came to us and i congratulate staff and commissioners. that was a lot of fun and brought a lot of attention to the parks system. with that, i thank all of the staff. i think we really have a first-class staff from the management at the top-down. and all of my fellow commissioners, i thank you for allowing me this honor. [ applause ] >> when i was nominated it wasn't with affection -- [laughter ] >> well, talk to the guy who nominated you. [laughter ]. >> you have to work for that >> let me nominate you next time. [ [ laughter ] >> is there any public comment on this item? being none, public comment is closed. i guess we probably should have taken it before the vote, but we're on item 7. the san francisco zoo.
this is on your monthly report only. >> correct. >> okay. >> good morning, commissioners. tonya peterson is away with her children. my name is danny latham, director of marketing. thank you for having me today. for this month, senior sweethearts month we're celebrating seniors with two for one admission in the month of february. as you see our two elderly chimps and we actually have three. international polar bea day working with an ice company to bring in ice and snow and
snow enrichment for ulu the the oldest polar bear in captivity and speaks to the care that our staff and others give to the geriatric animals. it's leap year this year. and so we are offering a free day for san francisco residents on the 29th of february. during that weekend though we're giving leap activity books for kids, featuring different games that they can take back with them and features the most iconic leap animal, the frog. new animals. we are excited that we have
an andain condor, 25 years old ian condor, 25 years old and she came to us from new jersey and in talks that maybe she might be permanent. she is going to be here at least for six months. so an amazing bird, amazing specifis is for people to see. and we have a new kudu, the african exhibit -- they are from southern and eastern africa and they are listed on least concerned on endangered species list, but they are hunted for sport and so happy to have that and we had a walleroo joey and verified she is a girl. being marsupials, we think she was likely born last june, but she has been spending time outside of the
pouch and we captured a photo, with her favorite thing to sit in her food bowl. for cold months and while rain is here and so forth, what we have coming up in the spring this weekend on saturday it's world pengalin day. their numbers are jumping because they are thought to be a cure-all for cancer and mental illness. we have a sculpture of a penguin in our plaza and one of the reasons we did build the sculptured learning plaza so people could see species not represented actually there the live collection. so that is whole penguin day and doing such spiders weekend with a highlight on insect zoo and spider-man is coming to the zoo to meet
the kids. leap day activities as well and big bunny spring flynn, 11-4 march 26 and 27th again with egg hunts and live entertainment and bunnis that children with see w. that had concludes misreport. >> thank you very much. >> any public comment on this item? >> let me just close public comment. >> public comment is closed. >> seem to be speaking at the wrong time today. i do want to thank the zoo for a great show yet and came out to presenting 300 seniors a pass to attend the zoo, a great showing with supervisors kim, the police department and just a great city showing and great contribution and thank you for your generosity.
and the kinkajou is featured today. it was a great -- and the seniors loved it. thank you very much. it was a great offset event and the zoo is a great partner >> thank you i would like to take item 11 out of order and inspite supervisor kim to come to the podium. >> supervisor kim, would you like to comment before he makes the presentation or after? okay, dan, come on up. >> good morning commissioners, dan [phra*-ur/] mauer with the capital division to allocate
$161,000 from the open space fund undesignated contingency reserve for new batting cage at victoria manalo draves park. some time ago the community rallied together and approached commissioner low about this proposal to put a batting cage out there. and with that nexus of energy, they came to the general manager, and we looked and explored the options of putting a batting cage similar to the batting cage we put at kimball playground. and so with that, we came to the capital committee to present this and labor days because it's contingency reserve it has to go to the full commission for your review and approval. i'm sure you are all familiar with the victoria manalo draves park. it's a very active facility across from the soma rec center and it hosts children's playground, tennis or basketball courts. community garden, open space
with picnic tables and benches and a small baseball field. and the goal here is to put the batting cage out there to activate that space a bitplore so more youth can come out and play baseball. it's that time of year again. with that, there has been a tremendous amount of support for the project. the friends of gene friends rec center and united players' association and commissioner low and commissioner buell supported it at the capital committee as well and with that made a recommendation to approve the allocation of $161,000 to complete the project. >> thank you. >> supervisor kim. welcome. >> commissioners, good morning. thank you again for all of your work on behalf of all of our parks and open space and to our director as well. we're really, really excited about the batting cages at
victoria manalo draves park and i'm happy to support this. i do want to personally thank commissioner allan low for allocating this portion of the open space contingency reserve to prioritize a need that our south of market community has been asking for a long time. as you know i'm here before you on occasion district i represent has the fewest and smallest parks of any district in the city, just trailing behind district 3, not on is it important for us to acquire more open space as we continue to grow and develop this part of the city, but we also want to make sure that the open space we do have is well-utilized and we're maximizing every recreational opportunity and victoria manalo draves is a park that the community is very proud of and continues to inmake a jewel in center of the south of market.
we look continuing to working with rec and parks particularly in the soma neighborhood, where there continues to be tremendous growth over the next ten years. they haves a positive impact on our boys and girls who play baseball or want to participate and be part of a team, as well as the community as a whole. and seeing that needs that they prioritized are getting invested in by government. thank you for this community victory. >> thank you, supervisor. >> anybody else wishing to make public comment on this item? come only up. >> hello, i'm ben woozley and coming to an organization for dedicated to improving quality of life for people in western soma and we're very much in support of this project. because we see victoria manalo draves park as a
currently underutilized park that would benefit a lot from a few specific infrastructure investments, this being one of them. >> thank you. >> thank you,. >> next speaker. >> good morning commissioners, general manager, my name is heather phillips and asomow soma resident and parts of the friends of victoria manalo draves park group. this batting cage is just a dream come true for a lot of folks. the park space be activated and i want to take a moment to thank commissioner lowell for your work, for your willingness to take the voice of youth seriously. i know a lot of times when middle schoolers make a suggestion, it's sort of like, sure, that is great. but to really see the way that these youth have been
motivated to see things happen in their neighborhood and to be involved with the process. quickly, just yesterday we were able to be at one of our new high school freshman's first varsity baseball game where he was the starting pitcher. a year-ago he was the recipient of his very first baseball glove as part of a program funded through the parks alliances playing at victoria manalo draves. so it makes a difference in the individual lives of children to have these facilities available and open to them in their own neighborhoods. i just wanted to say thank you for making this investment in our neighborhood and in our youth. thank you. >> thank you. >> next speaker. >> good morning commissioners and general manager. thank you for your continued support of our communities. my name is glen doug with the soma youth collaborative a
coalition of different youth programs in the neighborhood, businesses and one and only public school betsy carmichael center and we have a united and vested interest in supporting the youth and their families in the neighborhood. i'm here in support of the batting cages at vmd park and this would reactivate the park, providing our neighborhood with more positive activities, promote ang activity lifestyle and giving opportunities to develop the youth's athletic skills and utilizing the park, one of the scarce public green spaces in soma and we know that the batting cages will be utilized and it's in the backyard of the elementary campus. so with the partnerships of the school and soma rec center
-- and to speak that our community has a lot of challenges. a lot of concerns around crime, et cetera. so this is just more reasons for us to support projects like this, so youth can develop a healthy identity, pride in where they are from and also help guide them into taking care of what is theirs as a community. there is also had a misconception there are little to no families in soma -- some of you might have heard that? and i believe that time and time again our community has proven that to be completely false. one of the best things of being part of the community and my job is to interact with the youth and families and helping them find opportunities to thrive. and also just to see them through their struggles and progress. so in closing i'm here to ask you commissioners to be part of the progress for the soma youth and
families by approving this project. thank you >> thank you. >> next speaker. >> good afternoon commissioners. i made it. i have gotten way to used to early commission hearings and didn't expect to be here until later in the afternoon. thank you for having us today and i want to thank commissioner low for his leadership on the issue and helping the community get this need met that has been there for a long time. i also want to support and thank president buell for your support in the capital committee and i'm not sure if heather touched on it, but we spoke last week how the young people in the neighborhoods wrote a grant to get baseball going not everybody is blessed with the gift of height for basketball and so while basketball is well-taken care of in san francisco, and soma and the gap in athletic opportunities
for our kids. they themselvess have really voiced to us this is something that they want, something that they want a place to practice and get better and try out for their high school teams. a couple of our 8th graders are having a great time and sports is such an important thing to help kids stay on-track academically, stay out of trouble, keep busy, stay healthy and we just really want to thank you for supporting this and making this happen in our neighborhood. thank you. >> thank you. >> anyone else who would wish to make public comment on this item? being none, public comment is closed. >> commissioner low. >> i just wanted to say that this was really a community-led process. and it's not one person that creates a park or one person that can take credit for the park. thank you for the recognition, but this was really the soma youth collaborative and united players and friends of gene friend, which really brought my attention to the need for
a batting cage at victoria manalo draves. my fellow high school classmate eric mcdonald might have forgotten i played baseball and not basketball. we're not pulling out yearbooks -- anymore [ [ laughter ] so it was an important idea to me what a batting cage would do. but i was really convinced and swayed that when talking to the soma youth collaborative and united players and the kids, it's really about building dreams not just dream ofs for student-athletes, but dreams period. it's a community investment in a high-needs neighborhood. so i whole-heartedly support this. >> thank you. >> would you like to make the motion. >> before i get a motion, i want to thank commissioner low for his participation and mr. ginsburg, you would like to make a comment? >> i wanted to extend a couple of different thanks. first of all the to the
commission generally for your sort of guidance and use of this small, very small piece of the open space fund where projects that are smaller projects, community-driven projects that would otherwise be difficult for us to get to. president buell you summarized quite eloquently the ones in the last year and activity recreation, commissioner low, is a passion. it's the core part of our department as jimmy chin noted in the video, sports and athletics. it's certainly a core passion of mine and to be able to offer -- which is a really special amenity in the space is really terrific. last to supervisor kim and to the community, to united players and crossroads and everybody involved in this, thank you as well for your
advocacy and for reminding everybody how important parks are in quality of life of our communities. >> here here, thank you. with that we'll entertain a motion. >> omoved. >> second. >> all those in favor? >> aye. >> so moved. thank you. [ applause ] >> we are now on item 8, the san francisco zoological society. >> hello again. i'm here today to request possible action to approve a request from the san francisco zoological society to one, retroactively approve the purchase of a wireless digital x-ray machine and renovation of the george family gorilla exhibit and
allocation of $375,000 from the city to san francisco zoological society per the lease management agreement and between the city and county of san francisco and the san francisco zoological society. the x-ray system is a new system based around the cannon wireless digital plate that can be used with stationary x-ray unit in the hospital at the zoo and mobile x-ray unit used in the zoo to image larger animals. these images are stored in the zoo's computer server and can be viewed in workstations and conference rooms as well. those x-rays will be stored for archiving and also can be forwarded to the zoo's radiologist for reviewing . this is important for providing major animal care and the hospital and cost is
$100,000 and $275,000 in capital funds for renovations. we continue to improve animal husbandry and best practices with the building and grounds improvements and these improvements include the purchase and installation of a backup generator, electrical upgrades throughout the building. modification of the electrical control panel, including several additional shutoff features, holding area, door removal, installation of safety glass viewing for the public which also restricts debris from falling into the exhibit k sliding stainless steel is lift doors with safety features -- that is what i have. >> thank you. >> any public comment on this item? seeing none, public comment is closed. commissioners? >> i have a question, primarily, when are we seing this as retroactive?
what happens if we don't approve this? >> i would have to check with our cfo to see what the answer would be. >> was there an emergency that you had to order this, or why didn't you come to us -- that is my question. >> i will turn to my cfo to elaborate on that. >> thank you. >> the way i understand it the funds were set aside by the board of supervisors to fund these projects. and i'm not sure how that works internally within the city, but what we did was we needed to accomplish some of these tasks early on. so the zoo went ahead and spent the money to buy the equipment, and also, make the renovations. >> i guess my only observation is that we meet once a month. so when you are going to spend $375,000
and it's not an emergency, that has to be done, i would just suggest for fiscal prudence that you come and get approval first and then spend the money. >> so noted. >> entertain a motion. >> so moved. >> second. >> moved and seconded. >> all those in favor? >> aye. >> thank you. >> we're on item 9, the recreation and park department of budget fiscal year 2016-2017 and 2017-2018. >> good morning commissioners. >> good morning. >> i'm here today to ask for your approval of the budget for fys 16-17 and 17-18 and
before i begin my proposal, i do want to note that while this presentation focuses on the department's general fund, you do have a summary of the open space fund in your packet. as well as a general plan referral from the planning department for open space fund which is a requirement under the existing amendment in the charter. i wanted to note for the record that we have met that requirement. >> we need a general plan referral for? >> the open space fund budget. >> okay. >> i don't know why. >> okay. >> so the department was in a pretty unique position this year as we prepared our budget to submit to the mayor's office. as you were all aware of, there is a charter amendment pending at the board of supervisors that will create
a general fund baseline for the department. the measure guarantees that the department would have a stable-level of general fund support by ensuring our subsidy doesn't drop below the current-year level $64.2 million and increase general fund support by $3 million a year for each of the next ten years. and then by the percent that the general fund -- the city's overall general fund increases or contracts, for the 20-years after that, this measure would last until 2045. the department then would be protected from having to make reductions to its general fund subsidy to help balance citywide general fund deficits in future years. this protection comes with a cost however, and that is that the department must absorb all cost increases
and revenue changes within its new baseline and all one-time expenditures such as capital and equipment that were previously funded through the general fund, must now be covered within our base budget. in addition to guaranteeing baseline funding the measure also expands the department's strategic operational and capital planning processes. and includes a requirement that we perform an annual equity analysis, and that we develop a set of equity metrics. the mayor's office has instructed the department to develop our budgets for '16-17 and '17-18 that this is placed on the ballot and voters approve it. so the proposed charter amendment has really changed the way my staff and i think about and track our budget and account for the changes that we're
making as we prepare the budget for the mayor's office. instead of having to achieve a general fund reduction target, we are now balancing to a total enhanced amount of general fund support. which next year is $67.2 million. and the year after that is $70.2 million. when we started the budget process in january, and the budget system opened to us, the base budget had $57.9 million in '16-17 and $53 million in '17-18 and that number was basically loaded by the controller's office and included a range of salary and fringe benefit changes. that was the base that we then build our budget for the next two years on. so when you subtract the amount that we're guaranteed for the coming fiscal years from the amount that was in the base budget when we started this process, we had $9.2 million
available to spend in year 1, and $16.7 available to spend in year 2. but we know that we have to address revenue corrections, and expenditure increases within those amounts. so we had revenue corrections of about $1.3 million in year 2, $1.7 -- sorry, in year one, $1.7 in year 2 and expenditure increases include the fact that the department has committed to funding a $15 million general fund capital budget in each of the next two years. this is really one of the great benefits of the baseline for the department. item going to talk a lot more about capital shortly and we knew we wanted to fund $1 million in general fund equipment over the next two years. we knew we would have to absorb work order increases. i had originally assumed that
we could see fairly significant work order increases, but we're seeing because we have been reducing our water usage, we're seeing a pretty significant savings in the water work order from the puc and that savings is offsetting increases in other work orders. that means we'll be flat -- i'm assuming at this point -- we're flat on our work orders in year 1 and about $100,000 increase in year 2. we know that we are implementing an active net, replacement for class, which is our recreation registration program registration and permitting software next year. that will have additional costs. and then we're also applying a cost of living adjustment to our temporary salaries budget for our recreation program delivery staff. those of us who are permanently budgeted get an automatic cost of living adjustment through the budget system. the budget system does not add cost of living
adjustment to temporary salary budgets and we have to add this amount in order to be able to deliver the same amount of program services next year, when all of these staff get a 3.25% raise on july 1st. when you add all of these changes up, we actually end up in a deficit position for each of the next two fiscal years of a little over $2 million for each of the years. however, the good news is that we have some increases in our earned income, as well as in open space; that will cover that shortfall and then also allow the department to make an investment in our operating budget in each of the next two fiscal years. in fiscal year 16-17, we were looking at a base budget shortfall of $2.1 million. we have revenue of $4.5 million between earned income and open space. so we're
making $2.4 million worth of operating investments in year 1. year 2 $2.2 million shortfall with additional revenue of $5 .7 million, allowing us to invest $3.5 million. capital investment of $15 million and we have a source that we can use for one time investments and using that to the tune of $12.4 million over the next two years. this is just -- $4 .2 million.
you'll note that we're expecting about $1.3 million in increased revenue in parking garages primarily from civic center garage. we're also expecting growth in concession and citywide rentals, golf fund and as i mentioned in the open space fund. the reduction to the programs fee budget reeve reflects the amount of revenue that the department is collecting. we were a little too aggressive in our budgeting last year so we're just reducing the budget to more actively reflect what we are collecting. the open space number are preliminary. they are from the controller's office at 6-month mark and will likely change between now and july 1st. the details of our incremental new revenue: golden gate park concessions including things like the
segway concession, bike rentals -- we expect to increase by $67,000. the japanese tea garden, man that place is amazing. i am able to budget $600,000 in additional revenue simply from the traffic that we are seeing walking through the gate. it certainly the drought is really good for outdoor attractions. and so we are benefiting from that over the next couple of years. we expect to see $160,000 in additional revenue from facility rental permits. so this would be from say, rentals of kezar stadium, balboa, et cetera. athletic field permits a little bit of additional revenue, $50,000 in each of the next two years. additional revenue from the outside lands concert, also a gift that keeps on giving. the coit tower elevator
keeps tourists traffic at coit tower continues to increase and we're able to budget additional revenue there. and then a little bit of additional revenue from a variety of citywide conventions and leases. and i do want to note that in all of the cases where the revenue increases are coming in places where we charge fees, again, this is a result of increased traffic, not as a result of the fees themselves increasing. parking garage revenue: as i mentioned civic center garage continues to be very strong. the palace of fine arts is a revenue line that we had reduce in last year's budget, not knowing what the situation would be with rentals at the palace. so we expect for one thing that the theater will continue to be in that space over the next two years, as well as some other rental whether it's ihangar or somebody else in the space over the next would years and able to restore some of the revenue that we
had reduced last year. we are able to budget $200,000 that our partnership division raised to offset the cost of scholarships in each of the next two years. harding park, while they are seeing increases in their reimbursable costs are also going to generate additional revenue from greens fees and from the restaurant and proshop. and then some really nice growth in the open space fund over next two years. a little over $1 million next year, and $2 million the year after that. as you all know, you approved a strategic plan for the department last summer. we are really using that plan as the tool to help us guide our budget investments over the next two fiscal years. so just to remind everybody, there are five strategies: the first is to inspire
public space, to keep today's parks safe, clean, and fun. promote our parks' historical and cultural heritage and build the great parks of tomorrow. strategy 2 to inspire play, pro[#340-e9/] activity living and well-being and community form san francisco's diverse and growing population. strategy 3 to inspire investment through community engagement, advocacy and partnerships to cultivate more financial resources to keep our parks and programs accessible for all. strategy 4 is to inspire stewardship. to protect and enhance san francisco's precious natural resources through conservation, education, and sustainable land/facility management practices. and then strategy 5 is to inspire team, to encourage innovation and cultivate a connected engaged and aligned
workforce that delivers outstanding service. so how are we going to spend our investment over the next two years? so i have laid this out by strategy. the first strategy is focused on improving our public space and enhancements include an additional project manager for deferred maintenance projects. an electrician to help support deferred maintenance work. a plumber, also for deferred maintenance. an it analyst to support deferred maintenance planing with our ta work orders system. additional funding for equipment for our park rangers. an increase to our waste diversion aka the ecology budget. and then an enhancement that i'm particularly excited about, which is on top of the $1 million that we assumed in our base budget submission, another $1.35 million next
year and $1 million the year after that for equipment for the department. this is an area where i really feel like the department is being slowly starved and it's an area again where i think the general fund baseline is going to help us make some additional investments. so some of the things that we'll be able to buy with this additional funding are cargo vans for our custodial staff and excavator to replace one well past its useful life and one of my particular favorites a tub grinder, 778,000 thousand dollar piece of equipment vital to our green waste in golden gate park. this is the piece of equipment we use to turn logs into chips and mulch and other products that we use throughout the park system and it's incredibly expensive, obviously. so it's very difficult and an item that is really hard to
get the mayor's office to fund for us, but now that we have an additional resource we're able to make that investment. we are also again making a really nice investment in our general fund capital budget over the next two fiscal years that goes to strategy one, inspiring public space. i did want to point out some of the highlights in the general fund capital budget that we are submitting. so we are funding our general facilities maintenance budget at $1 million each of the next two years. that is a 36% increase over the prior year. we are able to fund camp mather at $750,000 next year, and $1 million the year after
that, which is 186% increase over the prior year. we're funding synthetic field replacement over the next two years. we are able to fund a $1.25 million budget for grass field rehabilitation, which is a 1487% increase over the prior year, which is a $68,000 budget. so we're able to go from $68,000 to $1.25 million to actually get out and do real maintenance, rehabilitation of our grass fields, which is certainly something that the public is going to see and appreciate. we have new funding in the budget for urban forestry in the next two fiscal years. we're increasing our court resurfacing budget by 200%, $750,000 over next two years. as i was out doing my public budget meetings in each of
the meetings we had a nice cohort of people who are tennis players who came out to advocate for court resurfacing. also a new project in the budget, we're funding paving at $500,000 for each of the next two years this. is also an area where the department has really significant needs, pathways, parking lot, roadways that are in dire need of new pavement. strategy 2 is to inspire play and focuses on recreation. we're adding a new recreation supervisor for our sports and athletic programming, which is really the busiest competency of ours and they need some additional supervisorial help. we're adding a recreational specialist, who among other things is going to reach out to disadvantaged communities including people who live in public housing, to encourage them to take advantage of
our programs and services. we are adding funding to the budget to help transport kids to programming outside of their immediate neighborhoods. we're adding funds for pool maintenance, as well as funding for senior programming. strategy 3 is to improve community engagement and inspire investment in our parks. we're adding funding for what staff has dubbed "the lifecycle project." which is a project that demi and dawn and i are leading with the work group within the department. the goal of the project is three-fold. the first is to bring in a consultant and to do an updated condition facility assessment of all of our buildings. so this would update our existing comment system with information about the condition of all of our facilities and assets, and what it might cost to bring
those facilities up to working order? the second thing that we would like to do is develop a business process that helps us understand what needs to be done to maintain each of our assets and facilities over its life? so from the day that a playground opens, to the day that a playground shuts, to be renovated, every day, every week, every month, every year, what are the maintenance activities that need to be done in order to keep that asset in good working order? how do we take care of it over its life? and then the third thing that we hope to get out of this process is a way to help the department prioritize how we invest to work through our over a billion dollars worth of deferred maintenance? as we are now making an investment in additional funding to address deferred maintenance, how do we most
strategically direct that funding? how do we have the most impact on those problems that need the most help? so we're proposing over the next two fiscal years to put funding in the budget for the lifecycle project, really for consultant services. we are putting funding in the budget to help us develop a more robust user-friendly website. we're funding a land use planner and also, a little bit of funding to help activate civic center plaza over the next two fiscal years. strategy 4 focuses on environmental stewardship of our open spaces. we are adding a new integrated pest management position over the next two years. we're bringing adding three arborists to the budget, which i'm particularly pleased about. a new environmental planner. an urban agriculture site
coordinator to help manage alemany farms and also very cool we're going add an additional class to our greenagers program. strategy 5 is focused on building the department's team. here we are proposing to add an additional class of apprentice gardeners in the second year of the budget. we're adding funding to support the pre-apprentice program at gleneagles. we're adding four human resources exam analysts and the reason for this is that as we continue to add positions to our operations division budget, we just don't have the bandwidth in the hr division right now to get all of those positions hired, as well as do all of the summer hiring, as well as to do all of the hiring that is associated with our as-needed recreation delivery/program delivery staff. so the goal here is
to add these four analysts. we're going create two different divisions within the hr division, and really try to have a focused, efficient group of staff, who are able to work through what is a very significant backlog of recruitments right now. we are proposing to enhance our staff recognition and training programs next year and the year after. we're increasing the budget for staff safety gear and these are items actually required under the collective bargaining agreements that include rain gear and safety boots and the cost of these items has been increasing and we just haven't budgeted properly for it. so we're fixing that. we're also including investment in the next two years as we have over the last several years to continue to bring high-speed connectivity to primarily to our rec facilities.
this allows us to provide better customer service, of. it allows our staff to be better connected to the lodge, and really it's just something to bring the department into the 21st century. as we moved through the budget process to reach out to the community and the open space advisory committee and park advocates including parks alliance. there were some really well-attended meetings and people by and large were very positive about the budget that we're proposing. just a reminder of the timeline. the budget is due this coming monday to the mayor's office. and then the mayor as always will submit his budget to
the board of supervisors on june 1st. and before i conclude, i just want to thank the general manager, all of my colleagues, and most especially my budget staff antonia, connie and evelyn for all of their hard work and support and helping me and the department to construct what is really a solid and exciting budget. i'm happy to answer questions. >> thank you, katie. >> any public comment on the item? being none, public comment is closed. >> mr. ginsburg. >> thank you, commissioners. i just wanted to offer a few comments and a few things and just to put the budget in perspective. because we have been doing this for a while now and we have gone through some tough budgets, gone through some so-so budgets. this is the strongest budget that we have done, that we are submitting under my tenure, period. >> how many new positions are represented in this
budget? >> i think -- i would say maybe ten or so. maybe a few more. >> i think it's a little more. you don't have to go through it. i was just struck by how many places we're trying to pick up where we should have and haven't been able to. >> i was going to talk about -- it's not just the healthiest budget, but the proudest budget for a few different reasons. one, this really starts to tackle both analytic and nuts and bolts side of our deferred maintenance challenges. that is really a blessing to have the opportunity to do that. this budget also -- yes, as i mentioned also gets us into more of a planning cycle. katie talked about the lifecycle process. the budget itself is really linked to our strategic plan, which we went through last year. so we're really making investments that guide our strategic plan and guide our initiatives. this budget focuses on
equity. and you can see sprinkled throughout and you will see in more detail as the capital budget comes to bear, we are really going to be making investments in communities that need it and investing in programs such as alemany farms and greenagers and the able to resurface courts at some of our worst play groundses in some of our densest neighborhoods. so it's a budget to be really proud of and katie has her list of things that she is happiest about. one of the things i'm happiest about is the investment in our hr staff. you can acids add all the positions you want and our civil service system is not simple and it does take a long time to fill vacancies. so to build our internal capacity and get boots on the ground more quickly is a blessing to people like our
park services area manager and those really responsible for what happens on the ground. i wanted to carve out a couple of special thanks. dave is here and katie mentioned the lack of increase in work orders and the reduction in work orders. the work that our operations team and dave is really become our in-house irrigation specialist. the work that our men and women on the growing have ground have done to control our water and without costs not only regulatory mandate and a success reducing our water consumption 40%. i real want to thank dave for that. we're in this position because of the leadership of our mayor, supervisor farrell and san francisco parks alliance after years and years of discussion, really
are taking a step with this revenue measure to help us create a more sustainable operations system. you see the park openings and capital investments, which is great, but we have to have the ability to maintain and sustain what we do. and this measure that is winding its way through the board now and has enabled us to make these investments is the reason that we are here. so special thanks to them and thank you to you for the leadership to get us to this point. people understand why it's important to invest in parks and open space. a big thanks to my staff and i brag about her when i introduce her at every single public meeting, there is nobody with more integrity in the budget process anywhere in the city than katie petrucione and
it's one of the reasons that we are trusted and she has displayed such incredible leadership throughout my time working with her and throughout her tenure at rec and park. she is awesome at what she does. but to denny and to my entire team, who has worked really, really hard not just on getting the revenue measure to a place that is implementable, and in being willing to embrace the concepts of equity and extra accountable and transparency, but in the careful thought and planning that has happened in this budget. it's good work. >> thank you very much. commissioner mcdonnell. >> thank you so much. just a couple of things to echo frankly what some of the general manager has already highlighted. first, thank you. this is obviously a very strong budget. frankly it's exciting to see the tumult to opportunity to make the opportunities that are not been available in the past. this next comment -- it's not as evident on the
surface, but the detail -- so i would just echo in appreciation for the commitment and look forward to seeing in many of the areas making the investment, general maintenance, defer maintenance and grass field rehabilitation and as we heard last month, the report on our parks. and the conditions thereof. again, hopefully won't get tired of hearing me see this i don't want to see 9, 10 and 11 districts continuing to lead from the bottoms. so if there are ways to make more evident and transparent the commitments to again, in particular in the context of increased investments and maybe some of this shows up in the lifecycle project, where it can be clear to equity as general manager said would be really helpful.
also more broadly and it really excites me the investment in your staff. hr certainly, but that all inspire the team and you are increasing investment in that is really exciting. thank you for overall this effort. >> thank you, commissioner. commissioner harrison. >> this is the best budget i have heard since i have been on this commission. and to look and see what you have done on path repairs, surfacing of courts and grass repairs is an indication of how far we have fallen in past times, unable to take care of those things. now with a little money, and you guys looking at these things, compliments to katie and denny, what your name -- phil [laughter ]. >> he looks familiar. >> greatly, i cannot tell you how excited i am about this. this is just what the doctor ordered. thank you.
>> thank you, commissioner. commissioner bonilla. >> i don't want to be a doubting thomas here, but if the bond doesn't pass, would you -- would we be in the situation where you would be coming back to us with a modified budget? or what would be the impact? >> katie, let me take that one, if you don't mind. so just for technical purposes, it's not -- this is -- it's not a bond. >> oh, right. >> the revenue measure. if it doesn't pass, if it were not to pass and, by the way, it's not on the ballot yet. >> right. >> it's been introduced at the board of supervisors and hopefully would be put on the ballot at the next meeting, which is why we can still talk about it as a policy issue. it would require -- it requires a 51% vote -- not two-thirds vote, which is why
i'm bringing it up. the mayor's office and thanks to the mayor and mayor's budget director kate howard has said this is how we want you to submit your budget this year. so this would be our budget this year, regardless, if it does not pass, then going forward we would revert to the old system. >> okay. that is good. >> thank you. >> i had some other questions. >> please. >> so i know there was different ways to arrive at this, at this new budget. and one was more general fund-driven as opposed to a set-aside with property tax. could you tell me why the overriding reason why we hitched our wagon, so to speak, to this type of general fund-driven as opposed to the property tax?
>> i'll grab that one, too. there were lots of conversations -- you know, the great thing about this measure, we were in a supportive role. i think we are managing our operations. i think we have articulated the need and we were asked to identify where would he make investments and how we would manage our resourcesin the policy for how it was crafted was crafted in conversations in large part between the mayor, supervisor farrell, and the parks alliance, with us, i think in a supportive role. and it was really sort of -- as everything is, a negotiation on how to best balance different types of priorities? i think the parks alliance, when they have raised the issue originally, they were looking for an increase to the amount of the open space fund, and they were looking to create a baseline for their general fund. and where it ended up was
with the baseline, which by the way, we are in the largest period of economic expansion or have been in modern u.s. history and as we all know, there are storm clouds -- economic storm clouds on the horizon and we're excited about the baseline and stability that the measure will provide. so we don't have to go through what we all went through in 2008. and talk about significant cuts to our general fund. this is going to provide us with stability, and it doesn't provide -- probably as much growth as the parks alliance had hoped initially. but again, the mayor is balancing a lot of competing needs, and this is where they ended up and felt comfortable. >> you felt perhaps this offered the more stability? >> yes. it had the broadest amounts of consensus between of mayor and board of supervisors, who are again balancing different needs.
and different issues and different stakeholders. so this is sort of where the conversation ended up, and you know, we have gotten to may a place, and we looked through a simple lens, is it good for works? it's a solid step in the right direction for parks. >> one comment, i noticed we did not include any additional funding for park patrols, is there a reason why that is the case? >> the reason that we made the policy choice had a that we did because of prior budgets with the limited resources that we have, we have prioritized our rangers. this gets to the hr and hiring thing. we have 23 active - i believe 23 active rangers on the ground, but we have over? burb [ [ inaudible ] >> that is my point. this year we're going spend our time filling all of our vacant positions rather than
adding new ones to this particular budget. we want to get fully staffed. we have a wonderful new chief ranger and we'll take another look at making investments again in our park rangers in the subsequent year. but we wanted to spend this year just adding the bodis that we already have in our budget that haven't been filled yet. >> so you wanted to accomplish that? >> yes. >> it doesn't speak to the fact that we don't need anything more or anything like that? >> definitely not. >> i just wanted to make sure. >> we're always balancing -- and we felt that the community and public will see an increased amount of ranger coverage because we'll be filling a lot of vacancies this year that were added in last year's budget. >> great. thank you. >> thank you, commissioner. seeing no other comments well we'll entertain a motion.
>> moved. >> second. >> moved and seconded. all in favor? >> aye. >> thank you, commissioners. >> item 10, annual general fund capital program fiscal year 2017-2018. >> i'm pinch-hiting for dawn who is on vacation this week and this is asking for commission approval for the capital budget submission for the next two fiscal years. the submission actually was due to the mayor's office and the capital planning committee at the end of january. but it is very fluid. so we make a submission at the end of january and in your packet is the list of both the general funds capital requests, as well as what we're requesting for the marina yacht harbor, the golf program and in the open space capital budget. we have made a submission.
there is always a period of negotiations between the department, the mayor's office and capital planning staff. and so while this represents our first submission, the numbers for some of these projects will likely change. projects may be added. in the past, it's been a negotiation of how much more can we get out of mayor's office? i think that process is going to change with the baseline. because we are funding the general fund projects in particular through our existing general fund baseline, there is -- we have a lot more flexibility than we have in the past. we are not hat-in-hand with the mayor's office and capital planning staff. as i noted, some of the highlights in my overall budget presentation, in my
opinion, general facilities maintenance, additions to camp mather facilities maintenance, forestry, paving, erosion control, we are also asking to fund in this budget parking -- new parking control equipment for our parking garages. we're doing this in partnership with mta, replacing out of life parking control equipment at port mouth, et cetera. that is a significant investment. we're going to spend at least $3 million over the next two years. -- sorry over the next three years.
we expect over the next three months to get more detail from the mayor's office on how collaboratively we might decide to spend those funds. so there will be more detail there before the budget actually is submitted to the board of supervisors. we have funding here for irrigation systems, signage and information, security and lighting. so again, i think that the general fund capital submission is a particularly strong budget. >> is there any public comment on this item? being only none, public comment is closed. >> mr. ginsburg. >> so you understand what you are seeing here, this was reflected in our overall budget. this is part of our budget submission. this -- we have made a policy choice, which is to take -- well, in '15-16
through under the old system, and through the city's capital planning committee, we were given a certain amount of general fund dollars for capital projects. and it was a larger amount than we have gotten in prior years. as you recall, there were some extra monies that were given to us to manage the telegraph hill erosion and rockslide. there were a couple of other big-ticket projects and this measure frankly protects that money. we can use it for whatever we want, but we have made a decision to use for capital to attack deferred maintenance this. is a healthy amount and as you see as katie indicated more money for court resurfacings and grass fields and fencing and paving and forestry and things like that. again, this is another benefit of the revenue measure and is something that i'm very, very excited about because it gets to the nuts
and bolts of what park users see in their neighborhood parks. >> thank you. seeing no comments, entertain a motion. >> so moved. >> second. >> all those in favor? >> aye. >> so moved. thank you, katie. >> we are now on item 12, the open space fund undesignated contingency reserve. >> good morning, commissioners. mr. ginsburg, i'm dave did -- i have recently passed by one-year and the honeymoon is over. >> we're keeping you. >> congratulates, congratulations thank you. >> i'm here to discuss the
purchase of animalproof trash receptacles. we're to create co-existence with wildlife and park patrons and companion animals. unfortunately we have had some unfortunate incidents with coyotes and dogs where a beloved dog was killed by a coyote and two other dogs were injured. so there is a lots of complexities with co-existence, but a very simple item is to eliminate human-generated trash and food waste as a food source for these animals. we have identified 30 parks and 127 receptacles that need to be updated and replaced. so with that, we're recommending the approval to purchase the receptacles with our contingency reserve fund. with that i will take any comments or questions. >> thank you. >> any public comment? yes?
>> i realized that i'm probably in the wrong spot. i should have come to the subcommittee meeting instead of this general meeting. but in looking at this, it occurred to me our park sunnyside wasn't on the list. that is because as far as i'm aware we haven't had any coyote sightings in the park as opposed to several blocks down. because we are close enough to glen park, and mount davidson that i'm sure there is a way -- a path through there. i'm wondering why these animal-proof trash containers can't be just the default for the parks? right now we have, like, five or six really ugly recycling bins that are always part of our park, that people dump
trash into, and i'm sure that some of the neighbors dump their trash, too. it's always unsightly. if we had the animalproof ones would make it so that if the trash didn't make it inside, it wouldn't spill over. and i just think it would be a much more aesthetically pleasing position. so i'm not sure why these animal-proof ones couldn't be, like i said, the default. couldn't be the priority, when we are redesigning or repurchasing? i recognize you wouldn't want the animalproof ones for trash receptacle inside a clubhouse or rec center. i understand there are some places where they are not, but i suspect there are a lot more places that they would be appropriate than not. so i put that out. >> so noted. so noted. thank you. commissioner harrison? >> is there any other public comment on this?
seeing none, public comment is closed. >> commissioner harrison. >> i have a question. on these new waste baskets or waste cans, how ergonomically are they for the workers to take them out and empty them? >> it is a little extra work. there is a couple of models that we can choose from. the one you can stick you hand up open the doors below and access the 40-gallon containers inside the receptacle and close it back up and lock it because we have had human interaction. so the animals are not able to get into them. >> i hope that they are easy enough to operate that no one is going to get injured or hurt. >> commissioner, these are well-establishes in park districts across the country and also use them in golden
gate and toggle between -- as parks are being renovated and where we have identified funding we're trying to get rid of the old cans which are much worse than the new models ergonomically. two-stream cans offered for both trash and recycling and bear-savers at-larger spots. we're making a move to put bear-savers where we have identified that hopefully will enable us to offer appropriate, cleaner, nicer-looking trash receptacles at all of our parks.
>> thank you. >> the general manager get and a plus on his response. >> so noted. >> to the ergonomic question, they are side-opening. we looked at this when we choose the bear-saver option. for two reasons, ergonomics. they are side opening so you get them out rather than having to lift them up, which is where we get a lot of our injuries. the size, the gallon-size of the receptacle inside the container is such that it should be manageable lifting it into the trash truck or wherever they are going to be putting it. >> thank you for that very much. >> okay. with that, i would entertain a motion. >> so moved. >> second. >> moved and seconded, all those in favor? >> aye. >> thank you. >> so we're now on item 13, general public comment. is there anyone who wants to make general public comment? being none, this item is closed. oh, nope, there is someone.
sorry. >> thank you. >> again, i will be very brief. when i was on my way here, i was thinking about commenting on this in general, and then i thought, no, i wouldn't, but i have changed my mind in terms of what you just talked about and what commissioner mcdonnell talked about in terms of equity. if we're going to deal with the parks that have been underserved in the previous past 20, 30, 50 years, however -- one of the things that i think this department has not been very good at, and it's just simply communication. you have to let the people know what is going on in their parks. and the brief example that i want to use is that when we renovated our park and put in the new picnic tables, we wanted some of the picnic
tables reserved for first-come, first-served. there was no response from anybody that we got. but i discovered about a month ago, when i went to the website, that when i clicked on this certain table, they were marked as not reservable. they were first-come. i was oh, my gosh, our first-come, first-served tables in our park that nobody knows about. my concern is not only that these tables are first-come, first-served, but i am concerned because nobody has told us when we asked? oh, yes, we didn't buy a permit because this was first. so that brings up a whole other question is the rec and parks department charging people for sites that are listed on there? that aside, i can't tell people what i don't know. it would have been simple. and i don't expect a
telephone call for every decision that is made in the department of, but somebody in the department now that andrea and i have been advocating for sunnyside park for a long time. it seems to me this would be not something to claim credit for, but to be able to tell other people that this is how you can use your park, and not have to pay the permit fee for it. it just certainly -- it's something that seems -- and particularly, this is a problem that -- and a problem that i have experienced. i'm sure there are people in district 11, in district 10, who just do not see their parks as someplace that they can be involved with and involved in. that, i think, is something that this department will need to address in terms of
getting those funds and getting those people involved. thank you. >> thank you. >> is there anyone else who would like to make general public comment? being none, this item is closed. we're on item 14, closed session. conference with legal counsel regarding existing litigation. is there anyone who would like to make public comment on this item? being none, public comment is closed. commissioners, we do need a vote on whether to hold closed session to confer with legal counsel? >> so moved. >> second. >> moved and seconded. all those in favor? >> aye. >> so moved. >> okay. so before we start closed session, i do need to ask all staff, and members of the public to exit the room, pleas
rec and park camp mather located one hundred and 80 square miles from the bay bridge past the oakland bridge and on and on camp mather the city owned sierra nevada camping facility is outings outside the gate of yosemite park it dates back before the area became is a popular vacation it i sites it was home to indians who made the camp where the coral now stands up and artifacts are found sometimes arrest this was the tree that the native people calm for the ac accordions that had a
high food value the acorns were fatally off the trees in september but they would come up prosecute the foothills and were recipe the same as the people that came to camp camp is celebrating it's 90th year and the indians were up here for 4 thousand we see every day of them in the grinding rocks around the camp we have about 15 grinding sites in came so it was a major summer report area for the 92 hawks. >> through there are signs that prosperity were in the area it was not until the early part of the century with the 76 began
the construction of damn in helpfully a say mill was billed open the left hand of the math for the construction by which lake was used to float logs needed for the project at the same time the yosemite park and company used the other side of the camp to house tourists interesting in seeing the national park and the constructions of damn when the u son damn was completed many of the facilities were not needed then the city of san francisco donated the property it was named camp mather the first director it was named after him tuesday morning away amongst the pine the giant sequoia is the giants inventories first name if our title is camp
means there's going to be dirt and bugs and so long as you can get past that part this place it pretty awesome i see i see. >> with a little taste of freedom from the city life you can soak up the country life with swimming and volley ball and swimming and horseback riding there you go buddy. >> we do offer and really good amount of programming and give a
sample p of san francisco rec and park department has to offer hopefully we've been here 90 years my camp name is falcon i'm a recession he leader i've been leading the bill clinton and anarchy and have had sometimes arts and crafts a lot of our guests have been coming for many years and have almost glutin up, up here he activity or children activity or parent activity here at camp mather you are experiencing as a family without having to get into a car and drive somewhere
fill your day with with what can to back fun at the majestic life the essence of camp mather one thing a that's been interesting i think as it evolves there's no representation here oh, there's no representation so all the adults are engine i you know disconnected so there's more connection the adults and
parents are really friendly but i think in our modern culture i you know everyone's is used to be on their phones and people are eager to engagement and talk they don't have their social media so here they are at camp mather how are i doing. >> how are you doing it has over one hundred hundred cabins those rustic structures gives camp mather the old atmosphere that enhances the total wilderness experience and old woolen dressers and poaches and rug i do lay out people want to decorate the front of thaifr their cabins and front poefrnz
their living room is outside in this awesome environment they're not inviting their guests inside where the berms are people get creative with the latin-american and the bull frogs start the trees grow and camp mather is seen in a different light we're approaching dinner time in the construction of the hetch hetchy damn the yosemite park built jackson diane hauling hall to serve the guests it does was it dbe does best service s serve the food. >> i'm the executive chef i served over 15 hundred meals a day for the camp mather folks
breakfasts are pancakes and french toast and skranld eggs and hash brown's our meal formulate is we have roost lion it's reflecting of the audience we have people love our meals and love the idea they can pick up a meal and do worry about doing the dishes can have a great time at camp mather after camp people indulge themselves everyone racks go in a place that's crisis that i air
after the crackinging of a campfire a campfire. >> the evening is kept up with a tenant show a longed tradition it features music i tried this trick and - this talent show is famous for traditional things but we have new things ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ the first 7, 8, 9 being on stage and being embarrassed and doing random things >> unlike my anothers twinkling
stars are an unforcible memory ♪ ♪ ♪ admission to camp mather is through a lottery it includes meals and camp programs remember all applicant registration on line into a lottery and have a rec and park department family account to register registration typically begins the first week of january and ends the first week in february this hey sierra oasis is a great place to enjoy lifeiest outside of the hustle and bustle and kickback and enjoy and a half
>> everything is so huge and beautiful. >> the children grew up her playing around and riding their bites e bicycles it's a great place to let the children see what's outside of the city common experience is a this unique camp when you get lost in the high sierra wilderness camp mather is waiting and we look forward to city manager's office you here soon ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪