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commissioner moore at one point called out i want to insure we have a visible k connection the plazas speaks to the plazas and one of the ideas one of the quick comments the eagle porch some of those look sandy a moveable platforms they can be staged there recent a top debris that is interrogating this will have a typography as a view and restraining orders are some of the images we hope to achieve the future the palate is i like to call the leather plaza it is durable but quotes and high quality and delineated from the standard concrete and looking at could commiserating with studs
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and donor tags for people that are contributing to the plaza and this is from bernice towards harrison this is the greener side of the plaza >> thank you, sir your time is up. >> absolutely thank you very much. >> can i ask a question. >> you can i'll call public comment. >> (calling names). >> line up on the screen side of the room. >> if your name has been called, feel free to step to the podi podium. >> hello, i'm benny live
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nearby i'm involved in the finances of eagle plaza and the western selma voice a group dedicated to the quality of life in western soma michael has put it very well the different facets within point i want to flow score you can imagine the circumstances of the living in a place where the largest open space is the best buy of a parking lot that's the point i want to make thank you. >> good afternoon, commissioners i'm election this is my business partner we own the san francisco eagle we've been involved the project we definitely building that we are part of community that is effected dribble by the things that happen the city and south
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of market is a very, very few areas people can enjoy having lunch or have a nice walk looking at the trees and things like that we believe this space is a necessary we support this all the way and work with build ink inc. and they've been thought and not only the lgbtq but involved with the neighbors you know and they have been rediligent on their outreach and also listening and understanding what the situation in order to better the project one of the things all to point out is that the keeping you informed those we feel this plaza will become something not counterintuitive but an example to find the locations with this type of projects we propose the
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future on the western selma district. >> thank you. >> okay. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> i'm john taylor i represent all the people that live under there we have a small family and have a place without getting into a car and have a place to walk your neighborhood has been ignored for many, many years as proven by the last scandal and we want a green space that is ours to have i have block parties on my block and neighbors have a feeling he live in a neighborhood that cares and we've never had that i've been there thirty some years some of the neighbors had to leave to go to work but young children we need a place to say green and
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save and we'll have to work on our own system to keep the homeless out we realize we have to take on that project and the last thing we with the tents we had that we definitely want a green clean space to take care of thank you. >> hello, i'm michael i live and work on the south side of 12th street indirectly adjacent plaza i've been involved the process since two years ago with the building and public crews i mean, i'll be lying i'm not extremely nervous with the things going on the neighborhood but i'm persuaded if this is
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done right and the proposal is in place 24 will be great and greatly improve the neighborhood and we with good funding and to execute the stewardship plan that will make it cleaner and greener and safer thank you. >> hi, everyone i'm brooke ray smith the executive director of build public the nonprofit sister company with build ink eir i know that is shepherding through the process and the communities outreach for the past two years i wanted to just relative e reiterate a point that is 200 letters of support from neighbors and members of the lgbtq and other members who have been supportive
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specifically build public worked over a year with a specific group of stakeholders friends the eagle plaza made up of neighboring residents and interested property owners interested citizens that point to be engaged in this process you've heard from several of them but i wanted to read two more letters if women that wanted to be here but had to with work one from rachel sullivan have been born and raised in san francisco and serves on the board of directors of the bay area leather alliance and the director of public works of the will fulsome street a member as well of the filipino-american association for star the sea that she is expressed her support of the 12th street and i'm a we went stakeholder and have long felt our community needed more
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gathering space we can play and relax in a public setting back as you may know we have no parks or public space and needs significantly more as identity in the we went plant and the general plan and the district 6 open space task force and more it has a rich lfbtd and leather cult that have identified as important eagle plaza will meet both of the needs for a public green space that salients fulsome character in a fun way that is inviting for all we've been waste a long time and excited to get more involved as to progresses and very much hope you recommend this to the benefit of our community she had a note last time my child and i looking forward to being with the community
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one final letter. >> she's a block captain for the group that is located two blocks away from eagle plaza our small enclave is an addition a positive step towards the green space and working with build in the community once we realized this was a green space for them our neighbors are excited to take the new baby and we're happy for the grew up thank you very much. >> ma'am, it's your opportunity to speak come up to
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the podium. >> a brief comment that is a wonderful idea i think the reasons were excellent offer excellent i'll ask the city they please be aware of the water use and this is property for new green space this is extremely important and it is the city's responsibility. >> thank you is there any additional public comment? >> i don't see any public comment is closed. and commissioner vice president richards. >> i'm glad i'm speaking first, as the only member the lgbtq community i've been going to the eagle since 1985 he was sad we lyft the eagle and two years ago it is a culture institution i hope can be landmarked i'd like to talk about that and talk with the historic preservation commission commissioners, i
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truly building it is a landmark status people that might have their ashes spread on the patio i believe what michael said it ringing true how you cap the culture it is respectful and great community outreach and support witnessed by the e-mails and letters of support it is sensitive and additive not only for the believe but for the western selma it creates you much needed open space i saw the diagram in your packet the average number of housing is big and in western soma was small it is great for open space the stewardship plan is key this is a lesson we need to learn from the castro if not a good stewardship plan all the
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best plans go array with a space i sat up and was sanded to see nothing going on the plaza on the key it is a great idea get activated and a big gain because i can't negligent or imagine being around a patio and one question on the colorful availability was a permit only can i walk autopsy the patio and take my case beer or only for special events special events i'm supportive thank you commissioner antonini. >> i'm supportive this is a wonderful project and i think that is going to enlighten and an area that lacks parks and open space the only thing i'll disagree with rec and park i heard a number of speakers talk about the children and the fact
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they and other people that might want on area they can you know laid or throw a ball none of the green spaces were shown will allow that a small area of lawn type of flat area the amount of water use is negotiable if so it merged right with planted areas that attract all kinds of garbage that will have to be taken out you showed the bent grass that is allowed first to know when it didn't it looks horrible in a lot of the parks and gets brown so when you moe is it looks at better i'll encourage you to think about that so people can use it for some recreation use so little recreational says that the rest
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of it looks super. >> two open spaces and but this is how we'll do this is the way to do it wonderful project i think an incredible amazing engagement to have this together and i have two comments clarification, sir heard me talking about the specific design review with the. >> (speaking chinese.) and since the civilian design review didn't know about the building to which the says that a attached to you made a comment the lane way some positively he nooetsdz neatest the open space for activation people can come through the park otherwise that didn't work for clarification of this comment but one question i am asking and i'm hoping that planning department together with the
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commission will partner with dpw at this project moves into the jurisdiction of dpw where that rests the fonts o efforts everyone put into the developer and the planning department, the planning commission they can see the dialogue as this is cross engineered certain things may have to adjust and the the devil is in the details but that level that the devil is in the details is either making it or breaking go that and i hope even though thoughtfulness by which every contributed we're talking about everybody we can maintain that including the spirit in which it was created i'm asking the director and dpw to let this project come back with periodic updates if there are changes we can all appreciate and understand them and stay the dialogue and samuel obviously we
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have to defer the responsibility of the space but by tint and spirit i hope we can create a large partnership we'll all standard by and participate i'd like to make a footnote to the motion in some form of another we want to stand by. >> director rahaim. >> yes. commissioner, i, certainly make sure we keep you informed on the process any potential changes that might occur was we go forward other point mr. 13450igd when the change to the motion on the issue of maintenance and stewardship bikes a finding rather than a condition was the legal situation by a commitment
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i understand for a permit maintenance there will be a covenant i understand. >> our intentions so kind of follow the triangle model whereas there will be a declaration of maintenance could have in what capacity recorded against the property but again that will probably happen from the improvement by that sfrument i instrument up to you them how they want to employ it but that's the model we will follow-up. >> that will be the responsibility of public works. >> yes. that's right thank you. >> commissioner hillis. >> i'm supportive i wanted to i think the analog it strategize placed open space i support kind of someone else the coffee and key i know you have a restaurant
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or cafeteria on one portion of the building patricia's is successful couldn't fail it had has to many people around it the more things to activate whether a cafe so congratulations and good luck. >> commissioner moore. >> one question for mr. schneider just a few minutes you only mentioned maintenance i think in an earlier description i talked about maintenance and infrastructure. >> sure there are two parts again, we hope to follow throw in the same model as dagget the declaration and getting melrose be used and the activation and participation and the city plaza
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issue the rfp kind of activation to a nonprofit most likely someone that is already involved again that's your intention embarrass how that will happen but we hope to do with that project. >> i hope we can keep that together you don't know i don't think you can trades off. >> if i may confirm to the maker of the motion the position motion is to approve the revised motion as amended moving condition number one to a finding between finding. >> condition number 2. >> i'm sorry the second condition we'll move that to a finding you the second one is crossed out. >> i'm sorry. >> in your revised. >> maybe the numbering the first number is the condition number one should be regarding
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exhibit b that has the plans. >> okay. >> condition two was regarding the maintenance covenant we'd like to move to the finding. >> okay. >> moving the condition regarding the maintenance covenant to the finding and commissioner antonini commissioner hillis commissioner moore commissioner vice president richards and commissioner president fong so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 4 to zero and places you on item 10 mythical conditional use authorization. >> good afternoon commissioner president fong department staff the case before you a request for conditional use authorization to establish a retail formula doing business as quickly as the site of 146 hundred limited restaurant on
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mission street the excelsior neighborhood district the bills began in november of 2014 and the planning enforcement case was opened the established doesn't seek the conditional use authorization the request before you contributes to towards the abatement of that violation the business had installed new signage without the benefit of a permit and working with the department the project sponsor has agreed to rove the unpermitted awning to a single non-illuminated sign this exist for the prior business a change of copy only the department has not professed any public comment about this project the proposed retail formula and recommend approval helps to maintain a viable business that might otherwise be a vacant rate of 7 percent the
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listener is- thorough the formula retail use will have negotiable use of the retail formula it meets a planning code with the purchase purpose and the provisions of the general plan and as complying about the performance guidelines for 9 formula retail uses that concludes my presentation. i'm available to answer any questions. >> thank you any public comment on this item. >> oh, sorry project sponsor. >> good afternoon, commissioners my name is leo i'm the owner of the business an 4482 mythical i'm here to give
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you an overview we hope you approve my application for the conditional use i purchased this business in may 2014 it was a bakery shop selling coffee and tea cookie and cakes and ice cream we keep it for a while but bus was 2009 good a lot of the customers want more selection for so we decided to add some quickly product to our current existing memo so the name of the business still stays the same the existing we continue to serve to our customers we didn't know that adding like some of the quickly products to our existing memo require us to apply for the
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formula retail use so we are so sorry for that we have reached out to the neighbor and current nearby business and seem like pretty happy with my operating quickly there so we only have been small projecting size quickly for outside the store we hope you guys can approve any project thank you very much. >> okay. now opening it up for public comment if there is any not seeing any, public comment is closed. >> commissioner vice president richards. >> i guess question this is the second or 3 quickly after the fact to legalize maybe are portal but one of the
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questions, mr. lou may i ask you a question so in 2014 when you approached quickly about south america the product did they tell you hey you need go through the conditional use authorization. >> they didn't tell me anything about that i don't know because we still have our existing products so i doesn't know that you know even selling look at of quickly product we are considered a formula retail use chain, i didn't know annex the last thing i want to do we got caught up in a missed understanding i mentioned a letter should be sent to quibble if the future quickly is considered you need to indicate to the small business owner you've done this is a probably prior to that i'm okay with this
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but hope we don't see too many more of these. >> commissioner antonini. >> i'm not quite sure i've heard they're keeping the name of the establishment they currently have and their only using quickly products i'm not sure why this is considered formula retail what barrier they crossed 50 percent quickly products e.r. the name changed to quickly how does that work. it was the signage on the storefront two elements that are required for formula retail the signage and interior decor and products within for drinks sold using the merchandise is a standard array that qualities as a formula retail >> they're considered a quick
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i'm you know tends toe vote against it i don't want to hurt the individual business but two other quibble or so within a mile an over saturation too bad the owner couldn't have found another supplier or a divest formula retail is better than only the same thing so that's my concern you're only having formula retail but the same formula retail so i be this kind of narrows the choices of the people the neighborhood as to the types of products or this type of an establishment. >> commissioner hillis. >> just a question who do this come to our attention. >> an enforcement case i'm not sure who filed it but the enforcement a case was a filed on the day the quickly
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establishment first began operating as quickly. >> and then they submitted is a conditional use authorization application shortly there after. >> i think i mean 7 notches you're selling quickly products from our this was grand as a quick store which i think is fine to have that so we've had the past this has happened before and somehow north not getting through to the various enterprise it is we're letting the community decide what they want to see on their neighborhood commercial district and have no option opposition to that i prefer we doing everything we can to get quickly to apply or make sure that whoever is getting the franchise
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there's no community opposition i move to approve with continues conditions. >> second. >> commissioner moore. >> i want to ask a slightly larger overarching question who- i can only congratulate any small business but what are reoffering including having formulas launch on to small businesses that are innocent in the course of what they're doing pea i'm saying what else can we do other than innovative quickly as a repeat offender or at mayor's office for small business commission, etc. helps to spread information for young
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entrepreneurs to watch out what is rules are might be mentioning names of corporation to find a way through the backdoor and heave leaving leave those people who want to make a living the dark i'm not a policeman or whatever i think we need to tighten up the mechanisms which don't help us to prevent it from happening. >> that's all i'll say i can't single out the person but need to look for help. >> scomplifks. >> i guess two questions first point at some that the assistant future with 59 small business commission to go talk about or addresses those types of things and secondly, to staff have we done a sense that quickly is complying and truly the ones the future are bad corporations and
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are the quibbles leaving. >> on behalf of the improvement team 12 operating the city as quickly this was the most recent one that opened with the exception of one if stones town. >> okay right. >> so i'm supportive of legalizing this use and i think the staff i see a letter in the back i stand corrected hopefully staff will not have this happen again for are a owner. >> commissioners, if there's nothing further there is a motion that has been seconded. >> director rahaim is it appropriate for the staff to reach out to the small business commission are other parts of the city family to help us to make this not happen again that will be very, very helpful. >> we've been commission working with the small business
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commission and the office small business to kind of educate community the small businesses on these things they've be established a small business portal to understand and simulating information so a lot of things to address the issues we're talking about. >> there is a motion and a second to approve that with conditions. >> commissioner antonini. >> no commissioner hillis commissioner moore commissioner vice president richards and commissioner president fong snaichlt 4 to one with commissioner antonini voting against commissioners onramp item 11 at market street also 15 street a conditional use authorization.
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>> commissioner richards and i own property within 5 hundred feet of that project so i nova recuse myself. >> we have a problem with recusing commissioner vice president richards. >> i'm requesting to be recused do i hear. >> wait there are only 4 - is there a second. >> sew commissioner moore to rouse commissioner vice president richards commissioner hillis commissioner moore commissioner vice president richards and commissioner president fong so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 4 to zero and jonas we'll wait a second as commissioner vice presiden quorum. >> commissioners item 11 for case no.
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at market street, 15 street conditional use authorization. >> department staff thank you. before you a request for a conditional use authorization for planned unit with exception for rear yard dwelling unit exposure and bay window requirement the conditional use authorization was for lot size greater than 9 thousand 99 square feet to the property lot merger and for economical e.r. commercial are larger that >> the exist lots are with the building was the funeral home at the surface parking lot serving the funnel home with access an market street and 15 and two stories residential the project is within the upper market street zoning district
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and a height and bulk and within the rh2 zoning district and the height and bulge district within the market octavia it is a mixed use e mixed use with the 43 dwelling units and 565 hundred square feet of commercial ground floor and new two residential building and retention of the existing 3 units rent-controlled building all in a promoted lot sized approximately 22 thousand plus square feet up to 24 off-street parking and a underground glaring are gastrogarage an onsite bike storage for parking for 66 pays spaces it has the incorporation of the market street and an existing historical resource to the contribution to the
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historical district under second and it is the incorporation and of a rent-controlled unit unit on 15 street it proposes onsite affordable units and the developer has entered into a costa-hawkins copies for your review and noticed the department has received public communication confusing 3 letters of support 2 others with the sponsors submittal and an additional letter was given to the staff for your receive and the market octavia plan to in fill the mixed use residential and commercial development and transit by active and vibrant streetscapes it in total adds 45 units to the housing stock so commute and satisfactory without reliance on the automobiles the
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project is necessary and desirable it compatible with the surrounding neighborhood based on those findings and others in the case report the department recommends approval with the recommended conditions that concludes my presentation. i'm available to answer any questions the project sponsor has a presentation to follow. >> thank you. >> thank you project sponsor please. >> good afternoon commissioner president fong and commissioners i'm dan with the group ambassador as you may know we've been fortunate to be involved in the market octavia area for more than 10 years after parking lot in the plans formation we're pleased to be here presenting this project that is consistent with the market octavia plan and it's principles i want to first thank the planning staff for for your plenty work as the community
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outreach we hosted or tenant 15 group meetings two community presentations and newcomers informal meetings with neighbors included in the castro madam secretary and the eureka valley and spur and sf hawk and earthal heritage and work with the san francisco bicycle coalition who we have been fortunate to work with over the years in developing the bicycle friendly developments today, we received numerous letters of support for organizations that represent 75 hundred businesses and merchant and almost nine hundred of upper market neighborhood neighbors and administers we're proud of the project and it's full time of the market octavia plan we believe that brings onsite affordable to this
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area and lead platinum of mixed use development and preserves an existing historic research with the characterizations and reestablishes the urban fabric by remove vacant surface park and provides inviting retail and it also reduces the vehicle parking spaces that will currently on site by 31 percent and we're providing 80 percent more open space and 33 percent more bicycle parking than required we're i'm available to answer any questions you may have and thank you for the opportunity to present this project jay our preservation architect is here as daniel if reuben, junius & rose and now i'm going to turn it over to dabbling the project architect from da r.
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>> we have terrific input from planning and the neighborhood and it has been a great effort and can i have the - there we go. >> an unusual u ash site the configuration has a geography and runs from market street to 15 street and there recent an exist as mentioned the staff report a 3 unit building and existing on 15 street and the surface parking that is to be roved and replaced with fully gastrogoodwill ground parking and no curve cuts on market street the other interesting kafkts is
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the shape in geometry of the block itself as you look at the knowledge as you can see how we respond to the geographyy and again 9 market octavia plan was a very important component of that project but also as we talked with jay turnball about the character of the historic district and looking at the context that is very diverse neighborhood with a broad variety i have architectural style from mid century more than to victorian we spoke that is difficult to see as we spoke with the neighbors and with jay it was clear that historic refers represents a challenge we have to maintain 75 percent of existing exterior walls we need
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to read the architecture through the existing building is no small task and expensive the plan here shows the ground floor retail market street on the bottom and the rear yard so we have the ground floor retail that is flexible and provides for uses the building on the left the historic building shown with the red online on the plan also indirectly behind the rob is class a parking space to the lobby for a convenient assess we moved those up from the basement with the coalition recommendation we the residential entry many that happens the middle of the building is responding to two issues one it helps to separate the new building from the historic resource and effects
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the patterns directly across the street. >> go at your own pace. >> so that gap reflects a pattern directly across the street and in character of the neighborhoods we thought was absolutely appropriate as you move up the building the roof forms are the distinguishing architectural characteristic of the historic building that is retained and held the building back to express the building and as we move up to the upper floor we have an unusual condition we step from 50 to 60 x feet back so stepped down the building and as you can see as i mentioned the geometry of that neighborhood open space
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all of the parking is subterranean and saelsz through a single garage door off of 1 street as we started to develop the architecture it was a question we about the appropriate earthal solution to respect the materiality of the existing building in a contemporary way the panel listed system is the gravity system and the scale of the window reflective the characteristic and the historical building is intact we have lowered the windows to help the retail to be more successful and you can see the gap between the existing building you can see it better in this view we've held the building away so it the historic resource stands free and more clearly understandable and in addition we've provided
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upper terraces for the reflection of the market octavia plan active outdoor platform the rear the lower minimal is reflected of the texture of the buildings to the rear and they've been reviewed with the neighbors and theyer supportive as we move to 15 street a 3 story townhouse that has two units assessed off of traditional stoop and basically flat two unit stake over the top of each other we've provided lightwells in comments from the neighbors buildings so lightwells that reflect the adjacent buildings and as that building sorry and then the
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upper floor that was a roof deck i wanted to mention two things i didn't mention danny mentioned 80 percent above our open space requirement and we're at 52 percent, 2 plus bedroom count we've exceeded the 40 percent guidelines quite significantly the parking is subterranean here so the new tougz the existing 3 unit building has two existing parking it is xovrm with the city standards as we started to look at the context of the 15 street is it so also an eclectic block with a mix of highly contemporary buildings and traditionally buildings many have been
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stitched their decor and with jay we sdoisdz reinterpret again that traditional form in a more contemporary way this is 35 feet the city standards 25 so because the two bay to keep the vertical portion consistent with the neighborhood again still a penetration has been done as well to try to reflect the character in a more contemporary way thank you very much i'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. >> thank you. >> okay open up for public comment and we have a number of speaker cards we have a number of speaker cards
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(calling names). >> if go ahead if you're ready yeah. >> good afternoon, commissioners as i'm sure you remember from last week the economic development i'm i'd like to thank director rahaim to come to our member talking about the sex treatment facility he got the full completion e presentation to meet the report after public comment is over and i'd like to thank commissioner president fong for the wide-ranging phone call he described how important affordable housing is if is for
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the teachers and pollens and focus my comment since affordable housing is a major crisis and with groups commissioner vice president richards if he's watching on tv i remember when the luvengs back in 2013 that the whole food development an delores includes 15 percent onsite quotes that is acceptable to us we have others issues working with him think designs and with the retail formula but before he went to commission that he reneged and said the affordable units somewhere the community and - they left us with affordable housing and this development proposes 45 and onsite or 6 units that is in our view not enough
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and not meet the 20 percent established by pg&e and others organizations the one system the policy you remember i gave you copies by our count xii units short that is the behavior for two years ago we're not happy commissioner vice president richards has told you ze we should have called them on it we're here hoping it will be different the planners are not punished the developers to come to the table an fundamental r affordability and endorses the goal of 33 percent this can't be achieved with all due respect our neighborhood and the developments sites we can't see a way to be achieved everyone the commission approves it is only 12 percent affordable if
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the commission rewards people then this is not supporting the goal it is only talk it continue with the project to get the products at the table to help to create the city we love to live in thank you. >> good afternoon, commissioners my name is gary wise i'm the land use committee deboss and eureka valley associations i have also owned a small business on market street for over 3 two years it is less than a block into the project being discussed i'm here today to oppose to project as being proposed there for the last several years we've watched building after building
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on the market cord the cornice and text turk it is your makes that reassembly another rear of the building those who live on 15 street is avoid of the interest and daily we at the organization fought to have the 20 percent bmr standard and other organizations have stated they'll innovate support any large development with any less than there that we've made this repeated but they've refused to consider the required site as a administer i don't think the traffic and people wanted to be the neighborhood and this building will look like daily city than on one the great boulevards in the country i know this project is determined but from the outcome can produce a
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better project with more affordable units would that not be worth it i've lost employees that can't afford to live here i'm asking to grant and six months continuance to be encouraged to listen to other merchant and come up with a design we can be proud of thank you. >> my name is ted olsen i'm speaking personally as a neighbor and owner third generation within a block the proposal which i urge you to approve i sent all of you an e-mail easily i asked to be incorporated into the record i want to focus on several parts in particular as the senior member of the gored of landmark two 37 i
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particularly appreciate the care they've and the expense and the creative challenge that thai incurred by protecting the architectural heritage of the funnel home that's been there many years i also wanted to commend them in a role i play on the vision zero task force for the emphasis on the number of bikes interested in as a senior encouraging a number of seniors to stay fit using bicycle particularly electric bikes this thing bouts well with that current plan and then finally i'm very grateful for the mix for the vast of units their offering and
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the mix of occupants that will bring into the neighborhood i think this they have taken great care in trying to combine both respected for the history of the neighborhood thank you very much i urge you to approve the project. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> good afternoon commissioner president fong and commissioners my name is tim jones and i'm a community residents of the castro area since 1988 and representing the san francisco aids foundation as the entry ceo and partner with that community group we recently opened a new location on castro street and a lot of the clients come into our space actually abruptly we opened the new building and from
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the early 80s we have presence have repeatedly asked us to help them find affordable housing oftentimes we have the unfortunate duty to tell them it is difficult to find affordable housing with this project we believe that that helps to affiliate the gap we want to point out that as far as the foundation is concerned we've been partnership with them several years and want to make sure we continue that relationship in a meaningful way i believe that their mission and vision around insuring that they care about the community and neighborhoods is so forth the project based on the information
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i'll share i'll encourage you to approve the project without delay thank you. >> good afternoon, commissioners picture my name is andrea i'm the executive director for the castro upper market benefit district the district represents the 200 and 70 property owners the upper market and castro area and i'm here to show our support for this project we have a land use committee and land use committee voted unanimously as to the board of directors to support the project just like to say that particularly in respect for the retail formula there is concern the rob was not small enough we had dan and john were partners
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with us for a year and a half we did a project we did reach to try to understand the large twice the vacancy rate the castro twice the vacancy rate in commercial vacancies so we did the project to try to understand what was going on and both dan and john were members thought that during committee and we found that what the castro really needs is a diversity of spaces it is surprising we find 24 small businesses need startups need small space it is expensive but at the same time, a neighborhood and a commercial district needs a variety of sizes the castro actually have a lot of small or oddly shaped spaces this is one of the
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reasons a lot of reasons but one of the reasons it is not that toxic to people so by having a variety of spaces on the ground floor we believe that will help bring vitally and diversity to the neighborhood and more from from the brokers and potential businesses moving on so we support it and looking forward to it being built with the neighbors and the commercial tenants thank you. >> good afternoon commission rob pool with the action coalition with the three hundred individual members thank you for the opportunity our members saw this and about the project a
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product group picked a challenging site but came up with a go successful project and to take advantage of allowable envelope the neighborhood we support the affordable and had the discussion about increasing the percentages and we firmly stated not good policy to try to enact that than the past couple of months an interesting rotator from the california legislative analyst office that said in market-rate has displacement in the neighborhood food for thought and the transportation you know we have a net reduction in loose this is terrific a good site parking plan and a plan on 16 street i'm sorry, i missed
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that the presentation additional did a good job many making use of renovating the rent-controlled units on site and come up with a project that respect the design and character the neighborhood we love the focus on the pedestrian experience and chief financial officer it to a better streets plan and a better area for people to walk around in and especially on market street platinum we don't see that and terrifically supportive and done a good job with the community outreach not everyone is in complete support of all aspects the project but the project sponsor done a good job in engaging the community and come up with a good proposal we hope you support it today thank you.
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>> good afternoon commissioner commissioner president fong as a residence of the castro neighborhood this is the perfect project to take the pressure are you off the castro exact and even though rent-controlled units the castro the more we build those maufrlts the real you know provides opportunities for those folks who want to live in the castro to live near it not exactly in that and besides the upper market neighborhood it realize the whole architecture that is preserving the original building while inclusive of more modern architectures around it a perfect in fill with taking ether the historic asphalt
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parking lot that is there for years and so this really activates the block and it while maintaining the character of the neighborhood and representing the legacy of the neighborhood i urge you to please support this project and go forward today thank you. >> okay is there any additional public comment? >> so good afternoon commissioner president fong and all of the rest of you in the committee thank you for letting us give me our opinions i say as always you choose your balances carefully as to the architect and the police it is nothing much i can say what i
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can say nobody from the neighborhood except us are here they are working their the people that have been quoted but they're not here they have not yielded talked about this we are the people who actual land and property abuts this land so we are immediately effected whereas many half a street away can say it is a wonderful project their got to be consideration given to the people that are actually living on the land abutting this plan now i want to brought to your attention the first of all, start with the parking lot because the the sullivan building is not of immediate concern to us who live on the block and a half that is on noah street connecting with 15 so
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noah has 5 apartments 5 living - 5 houses that open onto the back of they're back side opens on to all the extension of this plan is to my and others are think noah we open into the other plan the back all the extension buildings of this strange and interesting shaped projectile abuts our land or will interfere with our living i think without going into a whole lot the idea that because this project and it maybe good i'm not commenting on that but because of the existence of this project it will be x baiting let me tell you dirt and grass is a huge with that building interest will
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be a huge on slough of dirt and rats in the streets let me remind you on the corners we've been subjected for the last two years to these buildings which means that 15 street is choked already for two years okay. this means that 15 street is going to be knocked for the next two or three years having market street can't hold the heavy equipment that is necessary for this construction so the people who are in this area like see are going to be squeezed with traffic which already exists we can't move he suggest with the dirt with the rats, with other kinds of animal that will be uprooted and homeless that have no place to go and currently into. >> thank you, ma'am, your time
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is up. >> ma'am, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> is there any additional public comment? >> i have a at the same time. >> a new 3 minutes. >> i live directly next door to the construction i live i'm concerned with the changes that will effect my lifestyle i'm concerned with the dust the rats, the all the crap that comes along with things next door to my house not worried about things the backyard it is i see this is gigantic more of the things on down market street
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i'd like to see more reaching it out the neighborhood i live next door i'm not aware of the outreach in totally with respect to the light coming out where i live that will be a shadow now that's all i have to say. >> okay. thank you. >> hi lauren clark and i live about 15 minutes walk from in place in a great walkable communities and hang out around this area if i want to grab a grinning or drink at the mix i want to say anytime you replace parking with people that is a good thing we're in a housing crisis you hear this everyday you know that we need to there housing around the
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transient rich area this is a fantastic project i looked at the plan they're doing an ousting e oust bmr's and they're doing it green and replacing parking are actual families it is a wonderful opportunity i beg you to make that a quick decision and not add time to the process every time you add an continuance another week a family goes without a home because the continuances don't get pushed to the next meeting but ads months and months and months we're to other housing crisis we can't continue to did i live dale we need to take the laws and change them at a later date but the job of this body is this a good project and meets the requirements yes let's move
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forward and add housing we need housing now thank you very much. >> hello commissioners and business owner the neighborhood and recently finished a two year renovation of a historic building i commend the committee for maintaining the historic resources and keeping a building built in 1922 and later merged and changed and keeping 75 percent is something to be applauded on top of trying to turnout a lead to a platinum building we applaud we've seen change in the scene that recently but seeing the green shoes that will add have you seen those commercial i applaud the project sponsor for the uses on market street we've had a great relationship with the product group and what
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the street defend for the community and the architect i replace how much they replace the 25 setback and 25 along the side one great project it is i strongly urge you and the folks will have been great residents and wish them the best and hopefully welcome our new neighbor very soon thank you very much. >> thank you. >> good afternoon. i'm a resident on a property adjacent to the two sides and the backyard i understand this guess a vacant lot and a transient rich neighborhood my concern is for the construction impacts and the commission requested the project sponsor to after hours permits if requested they
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weekend to minimize the construction impacts thank you. >> okay is there any additional public comment? >> i don't see any public comment is closed. >> commissioner hillis. >> thank you for this and the public comment when we the planning department spent i don't know 5 years or so doing the market octavia plan this is what we expected and encouraged to see a pretty underutilized parcel with affordable housing and retail that neighborhood i think that there's a lot to like go about this project one of the design works on this site and in our preservation of the existing that funnel homebuilding as well as the residential unit on 1 street work well and you know, i like like the bolder architecture but this is
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better than last week it tends to be something for them to shoot towards i think the scale works a question on the retailed and the retail spaces for the project sponsor there seems like an ability it hichlt what type of retail do you anticipate having on the empowering it is an interesting block i've walked this block and 99 times on the other side of the plain clothes and walkable character on this site tends the way it was confederate led to not the most inviting pedestrian experience i'm glad this is retail and your using the existing building and converting that into retail what type of retail do you expect. >> thank you commissioner
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hillis as andrea mentioned we've spent a lot of time in the european market and castro looking at the retail and rail demand nothing specific we've identified for this sites one conclusions we need to get more brokers engaged the upper market and interested in leasing spaces up under and bring interesting tenants up there is that there's a lack of flexibility on spaces through we don't very specific retailers at this time we have designed a space it would be devisual into 4 spaces and like having the flexibility because one of the conclusions out of the study this area needs mini anchors that 2000, 25 hundred square feet not constitutes
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collar but food uses that can serve as a small market that serves as ways to bring people into the area within of the questions that has come up on the retail is formula versus non-formula retail use and i think foods is director rahaim knows we were also involved if helping the project sponsor up the street with the former tower record space they're actually is on this side of the street a presumption against formula retail and so the commission understands about 80 percent of our portfolio of properties has number one formula retail so we see this as recently an for example, the no, but area we brought figure designs out of colorado and we brought in at aner leather goods
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out of permit holder portland that adds to the vitally and valencia whether those in hayes valley and chrome the backpack company next to them on valencia street we see this type of tenants like that. >> you think he retail space you think you can divide the other side. >> it divides nicely between the two spaces one of the spaces is actually smaller than the other the one on the west side is deeper the one that is on the earner side of the building is probably i think nine hundred square feet is really a small local type of shop but set up so that can be a tenant and good
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for local or medium sized tenants. >> on the question of affordable housing we shared the concern of trying to produce more affordable housing folks were talking about moratoriums and increasing the inclusion percentage we can do and look at it where the percentage can be we don't know where that will land and there the ava question came up or actually i'm not familiar with the whole foods sake that you did i am not this is as inclusionary housing onsite i don't know if foods site. >> briefly talk about that. >> i'm happy to do that i realize this hearing is about the project and not me personally i thought to say the
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world of san francisco development reputation means everything i appreciate the intent to respond to that i actually have a series of 3 letters and first of all, i'd like to say i respect d t and aa neighborhood organization that cares about land use they care about important issues in our city i their position i have a december 2010 letter i'll be happy to to distribute that eric said i made a commitment in emphasizing to do onsite affordable and peter coal and d t and r or a go catalyst we're required to pay in lieu of and declared our tension with that
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requirement in addition there's a letter here from at the time that was doug shoemaker the head of the malice writing inspector duffy we were working with inspector duffy and doug shoemaker to try to add a land dedication a dedication the market octavia and made a commitment that we'll work dmrinl and working to find another site in the neighborhood to actually do a land dedication in lieu of of paying our fees because of the stimulus program we were required to pay 20 percent and 80 percent before the coming out certificate of occupancy the third from olsen lee from the mayor's office of housing responding to a land
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dedication site after more than 3 years of looking for a site we identified and brought the site to the mayor's office of housing and the letter outlines the fact that the city attorney had pulled the lane dedication legislation not available interest was not enough time to actually into enter into a development agreement and get clearance in order to dedicated that and at the time the city needs the money so in reality we were forces to pay the in lieu of fees we brought the site the site was rejected and at the end of the day on that project we paid 20 percent we paid $4 million plus which would are result in about thirty to 40 affordable units the city so i take a little bit of the facts
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and the revision history not correct and the record speaks to that you you know, i understand it is a pagsz on or about and an important issue that's why we're involved i've been working personally in affordable housing for over 25 years and b will try to find solutions. >> for that you paid a in lieu of fee. >> we did. >> you wanted to satisfy that. >> by onsite. >> yes. >> is it a rental or for sale. >> it is not finalized but likely to be for sale project. >> all right. thank you. >> commissioner antonini. >> while you're up (inaudible) years you've been working on this project i think and maybe you can describe a little bit of the outreach you did briefly there, there were a couple of
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speakers felt they were not notified i would think they muralist received notification for the project. >> so thank you commissioner antonini as i mentioned earlier we did about 15 formal stakeholder group measles e meetings with the organized groups that were around we are required to put out a 311 notification and hold a general community meeting we did there was a technical issue with the first notification we actually asked by planning to do a second meeting we the there has been a capture of meetings there were general meetings the notification perimeter and in addition, i probably had 60 cups of coffee in upper market meeting with the neighborhood groups and concerned neighbors that live around the project.
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>> it sunldz you've been the works for 3 years. >> probably over 3 years and 4 years during that time over the course the required amount of affordable housing was 12 percent i'll expect based on that you eliminates part of project to preserve the historic building you crafted that based on what you had. >> the project lost 20 percent of the gross leasable area if we had gone through a environmental impact report and had finding that we could tear down the exist building we thought there was a benefit that is an interesting building adds character but you're correct 20 percent losses of square footage because of the setbacks of the existing building. >> okay. thank you very much. >> i have thoughts i think
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this is as excellent project and part of what was brought up the fact we're preserving a hectic building and you know the project was designed based on the rules that now in place and were in place so i don't believe in changing the rules midstream as far as the affordable and a costa-hawkins if it is rental you know it will be 12 percent onsite one way or another and costa-hawkins allows the rental if they choose are it residences 3 rent-controlled units and parking belief 5 point allowed and support of a lot of neighbors and its function eureka valley and castro and cbc castro merchant and acknowledge on design i agree with a couple
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of comments i think that is green well-designed but wider elements between side windows on the market street facade kind of cut the glazing i understand those units have to get their light from that lighted source you need a certain amount of glazing but widened those give a connecting look and cut down on the amount of glazing and not really fringe on the light at foot level the other thing some sort of cornice tea vanity building is fairly electronic strong that calls attention to the fact that is the blind where the retail ends and the housing begins and 16 feet floor to
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ceiling within the retail space that's not an issue and your line item curb cuts 50 percent two bedroom and 44 percent of that two bedroom and 8 percent three bedrooms meets the need for families with multiple families and matching lightwells with the request of the neighbors and steps down nicely to 15 street and plenty of parking and the only things we have to rule upon the fact that the separation between the centers of the phases is about two feet less than normally the case but almost invisible and then, of course, the p u d over 3 thousand and as far as construction impacts maybe staff
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can lightwell us you know those apply to projects there are certain hours of the construction and maybe staff comment. >> i'll be happy to to answer that corey zoning administrator those restrictions are administered through the department of building inspection they handle all the construction related issues we don't actually not live the planning code any planning department requirements we're not involved and with that said, the planning commission has the ability to address that issue it is not an on or about we've administered through the planning code. >> but in dbi there are limits to construction. >> yeah. dbi has limits and you know applying for additional time to do construction.
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>> okay. thank you. >> commissioner moore. >> configuring project that follows the rules it does everything it needs to do a very nice job balancing the site plan that with the historic building the fact it creates more than background is appreciated because for me the setting we call on the importance the setting is far more important than a piece of architecture will speak too much about itself it is more challenging i've seen in a long time not only two frontages the through lot but 5 regular sites which is monumental not easy to do. 14 building abutting you and that's where the comments came from people not felt having been
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individually invited to talk to you i made a note because in the setting where you have indeed large neighborhoods groups needs to be brought into the conversation with a strong business organization and 14 individual homeowners who might not felt themselves as participating as they would have liked i acknowledge it that's why we're sitting here and appreciate the - ami to use the detention in the historic building and the way you come to the newer part of the building is creates an interesting space not a predict way but to work out there to the dialogue of the two buildings that is well addressed i know this project is not to mention agree name it
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provides a invented retail space and not ask for exceptions and exemption the larger district i want to acknowledge it it question need to acknowledge when we see well addressed and keep these in mind and others projects that try to split them i'm in support of the project and couldn't say anything more it is a great project i appreciate you're being so forth right with explaining the background and must have been some misunderstanding and an outside coordinator that would to help the other neighbors to understand the construction that will help to create a better feeling in the neighborhood >> thank you commissioner moore. >> i'm supportive of the project as well as and on that note as we've done in other
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projects we asked. a liaison within the construction project possible a timeline and update weekly or whatever the neighbors can log into a great website called town hall a particular project and block and perhaps the neighborhoods can found out about the extermination of the duty, etc. and get a timeline that will be helpful and if a motion add those as conditions or recommendations commissioner hillis >> (inaudible). >> approve with conditions. >> second. >> second and oh, is he seconded it. >> commissioner antonini. >> i'll add that continue to work with staff on any design issues that may remain and also the coordinator i think has spoken. >> commissioner moore. >> i'd like to acknowledge mr.
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turnball i think the rhythm of the reiteration addresses the spirit of this preservation compatibility between old and new i have no issue with that. >> there is a motion that has been seconded to approve that matter with conditions commissioner antonini. >> commissioner hillis commissioner moore and commissioner president fong so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 4 to zero and commissioners that places us on item 12. >> at a conditional use
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authorization. >> good afternoon. planning commission across the city with the planning staff planning staff a conditional use authorization for the proposed development at de harrow the planning code section a cu is required to allow removal and regional housing summit of 3 or more units for the existing ground unit with the cu is required the project will don't worry about all the buildings and subdivided to a sized lot and construct two single-family dwellings and 5 for a total of 12 units all the existing rental
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units were ellis acted on june 2nd and remained vacant the rh2 looked within the height and bulk district within the castro hill showcase square and is located the north west of the streets the existing sites is occupied by 8 residential units with 48 hundred square feet and square feet only organized around the perimeter of the site connected by a asphalt driveway they're an a delipidated condition and vacant since 1999 the typography is up sloping and the area surrendered the site is a predominantly residential with the exception of the north part and the industrial and church use there is also a 3 story be
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office building and a school use the inspirational are international statutes located the northeast part of street with regard to public comments the sponsor has outreach with the adjacent neighbors and the potrero boosters neighborhood group and a outreach memo that was included in your packet with the map indicating property locations and more letters of support were were received at the time the packet mailing many letters of sport none in opposition they support for the respect the delipidated and the architectural disdain and the mass and scale subsequent to the packet mailing staff get 5 additional support and i'll pass out the letters
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now. >> and also thank you for the opportunity to include supplemental documents that were subsequent to the packet mailing and including did certificate of determination and the programs which was triggered with the project exceeding 10 dwelling units this include the following the proposal differences a 15 thousand lot into 7 typical lots consistent that the net gain of units by enabling increasing the housing stock and 10 or more dwelling units the project triggers the affordable housing with the planning code section the project will create 12 family sized two bedroom or larger and lastly the site is
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capable and consistent with the keeping of the residential guidelines and contributing to a middle-income open space pr that concludes my presentation. and i'm available to answer any questions thank you. >> again project sponsor please. >> hello commission and commissioner president fong i'm kevin dill i'm the project sponsor for a project at 18 and i've been an architect in san francisco for over thirty years like most of neighborhood i always wonder why the building were booted up and availability i walked my dog past that sites hundreds of time newly one new orleans in 2013 i saw the for sale sign 34 months later we recall were fortunate to buy the
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property the northeast corner is 17 buildings 5 are delipidated and chris mentions and has not been occupied for over 16 years. >> the other two buildings were used by the previous owner so our proposal is to demolish all the buildings which is the reason the conditional use is required and why we're here today and construct new housing on the site as chris mentioned we've done substantial neighborhood outreach we hosted two neighborhood merging the first one on the site and the second one at any home a half a block up the hill we presented to the potrero hill broadcasters membership that has hundred people there that night
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and the boosters development committee we have sent drawings or maps with interested neighbors many of whom have written letters of support today in addition the project was featured in a potrero hill view article the neighborhood newspaper and ounce or ones a month that newspapers shows up on every doorstep the neighborhood in addition to that, the building inspection issued or mailed out to all the neighbors within a three hundred foot radius the notice of demolition permit as you can see this project is one in which all neighbors should know about so the project consists of splitting into 7 rh2 lots 4, two
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unit buildings and sfamentsz the lots respect the neighborhood pattern of 25 foot lots both adjacent both on 18th street and anyy 40 to the east with single-family homes the two single-family homes were proposing will be closest to that area on the west side or uphill side of 18th street so then also we are going we'll have two unit building at the corner and then 3 two unit buildings as chris mentioned those are single-family sized sunday nights with ample open space we have one two bedroom unit and 10 three bedrooms and one 4 bedroom units
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the project is fully code compliant inform variance no design revisions requested from the urban design team and each building has a different floor plan different materials and finishes so it meets the pattern of the neighborhood had we chosen to do a planning and development we would have only been allowed to do 10 units and, of course, the pattern of individual 25 foot buildings wouldn't have been able to be utilized as chris mentioned we originally proposed a 9 unit project after we received the p pa he held a second neighborhood meeting and asked the neighbors what we wanted me to do did they want me to increase the
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density of the p pa or did they want me to keep the density at 9 units so those neighbors didn't want us to increase the density and many, of course, you saw many of the letters that said that and see that's at way we pursued we reluctance changed the project to 12 units the city planning gave us the ultimate this is the only project they'll support so we got to work and first and foremost the 3 single-family homes was done within the originally proposed building envelopes so the exterior massing the exterior renderings we've shown really do not change in the 9 unit proposal
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so we've been partially wasting for two years over two years we've done substantial neighborhood outreach we've done everything city planning asked we ask you to approve that project so we can get on with that and build new housing in this neighborhood. >> open up for public comment. >> excuse me. >> (calling names). >> if your name has been called, feel free to please step forward and submit your testimony. >> good afternoon my name is stanley my daughter owns a home on rhode island that backyard abuts it she'd lying hike 0 or
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like to see or is she supports the delipidated property but the issue is serious and that's how this property is going date of birth developed if you can imagine once it is developed a 28 foot wall at her back fence and the back fence of her neighbors a 28 foot wall is entertain and what's that do the quality of her home and not comparable with the other houses if you count vii 6 percent of the homes 25 foot by lots and a backyard are oriented in a east west direction with a back effectiveness fence that abuts the backyard of the neighbor and in the south direction of some
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over three hundred and 50 lots with respect looked at only 22 that had a backyard with a abutting wall what i mean for the quality of the life pardon me it does appear to be mature the neighborhood character as far as the orientation sunlight this morning the sun came up others 704 this barrier that burglary come up at 9:00 o'clock forever and her backyard will only get sun by midday how about the air fwloe new put up this option the homes you create a wind tunnel what will the backyard be like a wind tunnel
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sometimes, it could be one or other times the other the sun has to come up 35 degrees to be at her window the wind tunnel could double the wind speed potentially the final thing she included 6 lots the same size they were all two units everybody will be happy with the backyard so the backyard awe butsd the existing backyard she'll be perfectly happy and supportive we ask you to make the change to the development thank you very much. >> thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> good afternoon, commissioners my name is bow i'm a neighbor
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down the on rhode island street down the block a timely ways i was lessor for the adjacent development we appreciate the continuance that was granted on that one i hope to work through the issues related to that and i'll probably be here again next month for that one as well not matt haney any disrespect i hope that's the last time i'm here for a while i actually ever supported this project i still support it; however, i supported is it more before it went to planning that was unusual seems that our block is also family residences and the neighborhood to the west and up the hill you know predominant single-family
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home we'll have a 17 unit building just adjacent to this one and you know within a mile there's hundreds perhaps thousands of units so i think that we understand the need for housing and the needs more affordable housing and see that is happening in potrero hill i noticed on the previous presentation a few commissioners mend following the rules the developer and sponsor was following the rules and i think that what has happened is that a desire to incur this in lieu of fee you have to go beyond the rules i supported the previous version more than i support this one i still support this one i felt the need to come up and
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speak to you about that. >> thank you. >> my name is barbara i live at scombrooit up the hill and i wanted to say i've received many meeting notices and a lot of information and i support it for many reasons one that the corner that exists right now with the black painted buildings are a nuisance and and sore and if you go and see the neighborhood you'll see that is very open it is not densely build out not like russian hill is can take the housing up slope so it is the nature didn't appear overlarge and i support it and approached by the project
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sponsor and i had a lot of information about that and it was the newspaper so i feel it shouldn't be a surprise to anyone thank you very much. >> good afternoon my name is guy i'm a property owner on the uphill block of the property between 18th street and niventh is two united building two unit buildings do - >> a i've reviewed the design i feel that will be a very taste full and handsome a quiet section of potrero hill no impacts from the additional - >> we do here a lot about the housing crisis in san francisco and in my opinion that is legislative that is not the solution solution is by increasing the housing stock
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here this is a minimal impact way to accomplish a small portion of that i'm very much in favor the project thank you. >> commissioners i'm ronnie probably know more about this project and site i live directly across the street for four years and seen it deteriorate as i saw an architect purchase it the late 90s and then ellis act out everybody some nice people that were living there and totally unapproachable he didn't want to talk to anyone and literally walked away so since 99 i've been living from a deferring lick piece of property i have to look at
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kevin he met sometime around 2009 he did a project a block away at 19th street and the sfwrt four duplexes those will be a similar design i've been in those other buildings they've be similar the interior that are high quality well-thought-out conditions and excellent floor plans you don't get compliant stuff i saw a few smiles from the commissioners when that came up it is definitely the neighborhood character there are mainly single-family homes but a number of two unit buildings it is total comparable with the neighborhood a great improvement and these are what we are after
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true family sized unit i urge you to move this one along and take that ice sore out of my living room window. >> i live on. >> can you speak up, please. >> thank you. >> my name is judy dawson i live on rhode island street 5 houses down from the corner and i just think that with regards to mr. jacque's proposal there is a way to fix the walls to reposition things as were shown in one of the drawings that i don't think there is a reason to make it to impact the neighbors if it can be fixed negative impact some a such a way everybody is happy thank you.
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>> hello my name is eric johnson i'm the brother here property abuts the construction i heard from here it also effected this is a fraurnd as to what a shame to have an enormous wall i know my sister we're very close she fully supports any affordable housing the city she supports this development as the previous speaker said this is an eye sore and this lot should be development not ♪ information to say shame what happened in this development i urge you not to let it go forward in the current form but
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again, i think my sister supports it as do i thank you >> is there any additional public comment? >> seeing none, the public comment is closed. >> it a skillful design shows on approach to small-scale residential we railway see and reciprocating that should be there and it seems like a contemporary buildings i think speaks to the success of what we have the one question i'll ask mr. dill is the following your survey was correctly depicting it didn't show the transitioning is are hard to understand the wall to our adjacent property i personally can't depict it will
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you address that mr. dill please. the wall one of the joining neighbors spoke about engaging the 20 foot wall and your view i permanent see from those buildings if you can address that i don't think it is any different from right now the grade didn't change can you speak to that, please. >> jonas can we put on the overheads this is the drawings you're interested in looking at. >> 830. >> so can you see - >> 830. >> so interestingly enough at
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the very first meeting first neighborhood onsite the person who owns and lives at the corner building linda was there and she citeed the exact same concerns as the lady and here father and brother she didn't want a 40 foot tall building we understand so i have - e-mailed correspondence with linda it was at the first meeting along with many of the other neighbors and essentially linda what is appropriate height building two stories over garage she said,
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yes i'll approve as you can see where the yellow she says yes. you can have my approval for thirty feet we never changed the building after that i don't know what else this is the 11th hour stuff is not right with the amount of neighborhood outreach we did to hear about this at the 11th hour is wrong i i do not accept it as appropriate for the process. >> i just minded you to clarify for the commission can you dwelling the distances between the rear wall of the particular building you're referencing and the face of your building it must be easily 40. >> so in terms of we're rear yard. >> i think this is 45 feet. >> i personally building in
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the densification on the sloping 60 sploep e sloping suicides that's not an argument that has me reconsider the execution it is difficult and this is project has my full support it has grown under i think the skill fellowship full guidance and it is exactly what we should be supporting carefully using this for an in fill design move to approve. >> second. >> commissioner antonini. >> an excelling good project this is a city if builds almost no single-family homes so 80 two dlumgsz this will have two
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single-family homes and two duplexes to create the units it looks like the size are good and the duplexes will serve and single-family homes so is it you know it is a good thing and, in fact, having one and two and 10 three bedrooms and one four-bedroom will satisfy the neighbors of would have been fine having the additional amusements but don't want to get into a situation every time someone as has a project we have to force them to have extra units but in this case it worked out well, i'm supportive of the project and the builder is a local residents that makes it more expressive? the kind of thing we need to do more. >> commissioner vice president richards. >> mr. towns what year were the buildings


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