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starting right now on a special edition of "this week" with george stephanopoulos. debate night face-off. the gop candidates on the take. in a fiery final debate in new hampshire. >> let me talk. be quiet. out of time. >> two days until the first in the nation primary. will trump put a win on the board. >> and our country is going to hell. >> donald trump joins us live. then, rubio under fire. he takes incoming from all sides. >> there sit.
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>> marco rubio responds in a "this week" exclusive. plus, the democratic underdog? hillary clinton knocking on doors in new hampshire. can she come from behind against bernie sanders? donald trump, marco rubio, hillary clinton, all here live, from abc news. a special edition of "this week" live from manchester, new hampshire, here, now, chief anchor george stephanopoulos. >> these last debates before the new hampshire primary have made a big difference in years past. last night's was a doozy. donald trump back at center stage. the toughest night yet for marco rubio. the latest poll taken before the debate, donald trump back up to 33%. 17 points ahead of marco rubio. ohio governor at 11.
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how did the debate play with the fluid group of new hampshire voters who wait until the final minute to make you are their mind? donald trump, marco rubio, hillary clinton all here this morning. jon karl starts us off. >> reporter: good morning, george. a bit of a traffic jam up on the stage. once they made to it the podiums, it with us a big night for the governors and donald trump. >> you cut it. when i came out, i hit immigration. i hit it var hard. everybody said, oh, the temperament. because i talked about illegal immigration. now everybody is coming to me. they're saying, he's right. we have to come to him. i hit other things. i talked about muslims. >> to be commander in chief, do you stand by those words? >> i think that is an assessment that the voters will make. >> he didn't answer your question. people back down with trump. >> reporter: the candidate rises
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marco rubio, took fire all night. with a barrage coming from chris christie. >> you have not been involved in a consequential decision where you have had to be held accountable. >> reporter: rubio drew repeatedly. >> let's dispel with the fiction that barack obama doesn't know what he's doing. this notion that barack obama doesn't know what he's doing is >> there it is. there it is. the memorized 25-second speech. >> reporter: christie and his fellow governors dominated much of the night. all fighting for a new hampshire comeback. john kasich hoping to appeal to moderates won over the crowd with a positive message. >> we have to solve problems in america by coming together. republicans and democrats. americans first. party and ideology second. that's what we need to do. [ cheers and applause ] >> reporter: bush made his most
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domain. >> to take property from an elderly woman -- quiet. >> how tough is it. [ crowd booing ] >> a lot of times. that's all of his donors and special interests out there. it's what it is. >> reporter: that's right. donald trump went after the audience. i have never seen that in a debate before. he has a solid, double-digit lead here in new hampshire. new hampshire voters are famous for changing their minds and deciding at the very last minute. >> yeah, a third of them have not made up their mind yet. donald trump joins us now. what did you think about last night? >> i loved it. it was great debate. we had some fun. i had a great time. i'm happy with the results. >> you had the back and forth with jeb bush on eminent domain. the facts seem to be on his
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let me explain it first. vera coke ing. you and the authority in new jersey wanted to take her house for a parking lot. for a casino. you fought it for three years. the state supreme court said trump, not the public, stood to benefit from the seizures and the deal was analogous to giving trump a blank check for future development. >> and you know what i did, i let the court stand as opposed to going higher up. >> well it was the state supreme court. >> we could have gone higher. i decided not to do it. not the pursue it. >> a three-year fight. >> doesn't matter. we could have gone a different way. i offered her a bunch of money. she sold the house for much less than what i offered. eminent domain is a big thing. the bush family, i found this out five minutes ago. they used eminent domain for the stadium in texas where they own i guess a piece of the texas rangers.
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>> that doesn't matter. it was the family. he didn't tell anybody this. he probably doesn't know. i don't think he knows what eminent domain is. >> so no second thoughts about your position at all? >> eminent domain is important. you wouldn't have highways, roadway, bridge, hospitals. you wouldn't have anything without it. the keystone pipeline. everybody wants that. if you're a conservative, you want the keystone pipeline. they have a whole section of eminent domain. they have a whole section. >> the crowd once on your side. >> the crowd was on my side except they were all friends of mine that were donors and special interests and lobbyists. some of them worked for me in the past. the people in that audience were the people that were supporting all of the candidates. i'm the only candidate not taking money. i'm not taking money. crowd? >> i had 20 tickets. they gave me 0 sixties.
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90% of them were people that gave to the various candidates. and mostly to bush. bush got there are 128 million. he's nowhere. he's spent over there are 100 million on this failed campaign of his. he's nowhere. yins. rubio said, he said, why does nobody get response but bush? i just think it's really showing the system. when you have somebody like me, where i don't take money, where i'm a self-funder, people really appreciate that. that's why i brought it out last night. it was a good point, i think. >> waterboarding front and center last night. you said, i would bring back waterboarding and hell of a lot worse than water-boarding. what did you have in snimpbltd i said before that we're living in a world where in the middle east they're cutting people's heads off opinion a off. a christian's head off. james foley, what a wonderful
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i said, yes, i would bring back waterboarding. i would make it a hell of a lot worse. >> what did you have in mind? >> i had in mind going worse than water-boarding. it's enough. we have a country under siege from a people. we're living in medieval times. if i have it to do, if it's up to me, i would absolutely bring back waterboarding. if it's tougher than that, i would bring it back, too. >> you would authorize torture. >> i would absolutely authorize something beyond waterboarding. it will be effective. george, you have our enemy cutting heads off of christians or others. >> do we wip by being more like them? >> yes, i'm sorry. you have to do it that way. i'm not sure everybody agrees with me. i'm sure people don't. we're living in a time that's as evil as any time that has ever been. when i was a young man, i studied medieval times.
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chopped off heads. we're going to do things beyond waterboarding. i thought ted's answer was tent active. he gave a tentative answer. if we have to, we're going to have to do more. when you have conditions like that, i would say absolutely i would approve water-boarding. >> the law says they have to follow the army field manual. it prohibits that. you would try to overturn the law? >> you reclassify. see what happens. i would certainly approve water-boarding. they laugh at us. our enemies laugh at us. they don't view that as realtor chur. they say water-boarding and they chop off heads. they think we're so stupid. you no idea. the enemy we're fighting. no wonder they're doing so well. with this kind of thinking, that's why they're doing so well. >> there was an issue that came up last night. you said you were always against
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fact-checkers have gone through and don't find you against the war until after it began. >> in 2003-2004, i was against it. >> i interviewed you in 1999. you were thinking of running for president then. >> i was, actually. maybe i should have done it. i like this time better. but the fact is, in 2003, 2004, i was very much opposed to the war. i said it would destabilize the middle east. it did. >> gay marriage, last sunday, on fox news sunday, you said you would strongly consider appointing supreme court justices to overturn the ruling. later this week, you said this to a reporter in new england. >> when president trump is in office, can we look for more forward motion on equality for gays and lesbians? >> you can. we're going to bring people together. that's your thing. other people have their thing. we have to bring all people
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if we don't, we're not going to have a country anymore. >> just last sunday, you said you would consider appointing justices -- >> we're talking about bringing people together. i would appoint justice, which would take a long time. >> but you want them to overturn the supreme court decision. >> i would appoint them and see how they vote. >> how does that move us to equality? >> we'll find out. that. more important than anything else to me, this country is so divided right now, as per her question, this country is so totally divided. it's probably almost never been as divided. we have to bring it together. >> a majority of americans support the idea of gay marriage. >> it's been determined. we will see what happens. we're going look at judges. they have to be great judges. conservative judges who are going to see how they stand depending on their views. that would be my preference. >> where do you want them to
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>> i would prefer they stand against. we'll see what happens. it depends on the judge. >> how does that move us toward equality for gays and leez lesbians? >> we're going to do whatever we have to do. i'll put the absolute best judges in position. we're going to see what their views are. i will make the determination that time. >> what do you say to gays and lesbians that say overturning that decision is not unifieing the country? >> i understand that. it's a long way off. >> what is happening here in new hampshire? >> it's going well. we're doing well. >> better than iowa? >> i came in first or second, depending on how you want to count the carson vote. i came in first or second out of originally 17 people. >> you came in second. >> well, i'll tell you what, the you add up the thousands of votes added on to cruz, you'll
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think i might have come in better than second. but it doesn't matter. i think second was a very good finish. rubio came in third. everybody said what a great job he did. i came in second, they said, oh he had a bad performance. i said, why is that bad? i came in second, he came this third. he was good and i wasn't. >> marco rubio is coming up the. what happened with him last night? >> i don't know. he had a rough time. you know, we'll see what happens. we have an interesting two days ahead. i wanted to get by the debate. people said i won the debate. almost everybody said i won the debate. you said i did well. >> who is standing between you and the nomination right now snchblgt i . >> i don't know. it's a long way to go. i see the poll numbers. i don't know if they're accurate. they interview 300 people and come up with a brilliant poll. to me, the people of new hampshire have to get out, have to vote, and hopefully, they're going to vote for trump bauds i'll do a good squoob. >> see you on the trail. >> thank you.
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hillary clinton coming up. she had a big comeback four year ago in new hampshire. can she do it again? marco ruin yo bio is next, taking on the critics of his tough night. look, the wolf was huffing and puffing. like you do sometimes, grandpa? well, when you have copd, it can be hard to breathe. it can be hard to get air out, which can make it hard to get air in. so i talked to my doctor. she said... symbicort could help you breathe better, symbicort doesn't replace a rescue inhaler for sudden symptoms. symbicort helps provide significant improvement of your lung function. symbicort is for copd, including chronic bronchitis and emphysema. it should not be taken more than twice a day. symbicort contains formoterol. medicines like formoterol increase the risk of death from asthma problems. symbicort may increase your risk of lung infections, osteoporosis, and some eye problems. you should tell your doctor if you have a heart condition or high blood pressure before taking it. symbicort could mean a day
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and let's dispel once and first of all with this fiction that barack obama doesn't know what he's doing. we're not facing a president that doesn't know what he's doing. let's dispel with the fiction that barack obama doesn't know what he's doing.
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anybody that believes barack obama is not doing what he's doing on purpose doesn't believe what they're dealing with. >> what went wrong? >> actually, i would pay them to keep running that clip. that's what i believe. passionately. it's one of the reasons i'm not running for re-election to the senate and i'm running for president. obamacare was not an accident. the deal with iran is not an accident. >> you're getting pounded for repeating that speech. >> well, look, we raised more money in the first hour of that debate last night than any other debate. it's true. has he hired incompetent people? absolutely. when it comes to what he's trying to do to america it's part of a plan. he said he's wanted to change the country. in way that's robbing us of everything that makes us special. it's the truth.
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>> after chris christie called you out, you repeated it again. he said, there you go again. it was not a good moment for you, was it? it's what i believe. it's what i'll continue to say. this is the greatest country in the history of man kind because of a set of principles. barack obama wants us to abandon them. he's undermining the constitution. undermining our standard in the world. weakening america. stage. if we elect someone like that for the next four years, think it may be too late for america to turn around. >> lindsey graham said the case for marco rubio being able to be commander in chief took a hit last night. >> he's supporting jeb bush. no one on the stage last night has a better understanding of
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this country than i do. the president has the to be commander in chief. >> etch ven though you have never been in an eggs ek active position? >> no one has a better understanding of foreign policy than i have. i think i demonstrated that last night. and throughout the campaign. >> you just heard donald trump on the issue of waterboarding and torture, he would authorize something worse. that sometimes we do have to mirror our enemies. what do you make of that? >> i don't know what it means pip can't make much of it. we shouldn't be discussing specific tactics. it allows a terrorist, literally, to plan for hour they'll be interrogated to avoid -- >> you would reserve the right to order waterboarding? >> we're not interrogating terrorists right now. you cannot interrogate a terrorist as if it was a law enforcement investigation.
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about finding out information to happening. to prevent an attack or to actively plotting. tactics. we're not going to does those. suffice it to say, we're going to come ply with whatever a civilized nation would do. you have to treat terrorists criminal. >> you got called out on the issue of abortion. you don't support exceptions for rape and incest. jeb bush said it's a tough sell to tell a pro-life mother, had her daughter been raped that she would just have to accept that as a sad fact. >> abortion is not a political issue to me. it's a human rights issue. if jeb wants to make ate political issue, that's his right. i have supported laws with exception. the 20-week abortion ban. >> it's not what you believe? >> i do require an exception for life of the mother.
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number two as i have said, if they pass a law in congress with exceptions, i'll sign it. i want to save live ps. broader point i've made is i believe all human life is worthy of the protection of our laws. i deeply and personally believe that. i'm not going to change my position on something hat is so deep in me in order the win an election. >> what do you say to that mom. >> it's a terrible situation. a crisis pregnancy as a result of something as horrifying as that. i'm not saying it's easy. it's a horrible thing. unimaginable. i get it. i really do. that's why the issue is so difficult. i believe a human being, an unborn child has a right to live,er respective of the circumstances they were conceived in. a majority of americans don't agree with me on that. that's why any law that limits abortions that passes will have exceptions.
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life is worthy of the protection of our laws. >> you're getting a hit for being part of the gang of eight on immigration and for running away from it. was it a his take mistake to forge the original deal? >> i went to washington to solve problems. i saw the opportunity to do the best we could in the hopes that the house would take it up and make it better. happened in the senate. did not happen in the house. that's not the way we're going to do it when i'm president. we have a majority. we're beginning to do it differently. the way i want to do pit. >> if that's the best you could do, you would sign it? >> i don't think that law, the way it was constructed, could have ever passed. i think, most certainly, you look at the house and the broader population in america, people don't want to move on immigration until cow can prove that illegal immigration is under control. we are not going to be able to do this comprehensively.
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the first thing we're going to do is secure our border. until the board sir secure, nothing else is going happen on immigration. anyone who believes otherwise is delusional or not being honest. >> no regrets on being part of the gang or f igt? eight? >> i went up there to solve problems. it's harder today, worse today, than three years ago. >> your opponents had no trouble last night saying you're not ready to be commander in chief. straight question. do you think donald trump is ready to be commander in chief? >> i think for him to pass that threshold, he'll have to show in-depth knowledge of the foreign policy issues before us. he's not done that yet. i think he has time to learn about these things. he's running out of time. last night, a brief question about north korea. this is a huge threat.
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he possesses long-range missilesing probably already capable of reaching the united states. and this is not an emergent issue. but it's a dangerous one. he better have an in-depth understanding of that. on your first day in office, you cannot predict what issue will confront you. of all the people on stage last night, none of them has more experience or a better understanding or has proven better judgment on these issues than i have. >> right now, donald trump doesn't have that readiness? >> i don't think donald trump has answered questions. he didn't know what the nuclear triad was a few weeks ago. he could only say last night something about heine china and leverage. isle let the i'll let the voters make the decision. the you want to be commander in chief, you better show you
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and you have good knowledge. >> you have a 3, 2, 1 strategy. >> you have never heard anybody in my campaign say that. we want as many votes and delegates as we can. third. we had as many delegates as the second place finisher. staple strategy in new hampshire me we want to get as many people to vote for me as well. we created a campaign that will be around march 1st and beyond. i feel optimistic where we're going to be once the delegates are tallied. >> and nothing from last night changes that? >> absolutely not. other that n we raised more money in the first hour than any other debate. >> thank you for joining us. gnat republicans. hillary clinton joins us next. "the roundtable" on last night's
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enough is enough! >> bernie sanders on "saturday night live" last night. we're joined by his opponent, former sk tear of state hillary clinton. she joins us from manchester. thank you for joining us this morning. you had your own turn on "saturday night live" how did he do? >> i didn't get to see it. it's always a fun experience. i'm sure he did great. it's a wonderful forum. it's a crash course in trying to figure out how to do live tv and, i had a great time doing it. >> we also had, of course, the republican debate last night here at st. anselm's. >> why does the media ask hillary clinton why she believes that all abortions should be legal, why don't they ask hillary clinton why she believes that partial birt abortion, a gruesome procedure outlawed in the country, she thinks that's a fundamental right. they're the extremists. i can't wait to expose them in a
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>> did he get exposed in a general election? >> you know, george, um -- i -- it's really -- quite -- sad. to see what senator rubio is becoming in this campaign. everybody understands that he is diving as far right as he possibly can. you know, i've been on record for many years about where i stand on abortion. how it should be safe and legal. and i have the same position that i've had for a very long time. but what's really going on here is an effort by the republicans, to keep pushing as far as they can to overturn roe v. wade. to defund planned parenthood. to make accusations and a -- >> are there any situations you would accept? >> i have been on the record for
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life and health of the mother, rape and incest have to be taken into account. when he raises the, you know, very, very difficult issue of late-term abortion, he conveniently overlooks the fact that there are medical reasons. there are health-related reasons. i've met women who have had to face this excruciating choice. this is not something that anyone that i've ever met with enters into without the deepest thought, the most careful consideration. and, i remember an event back in the '90s where we sat and talked with some of the women who -- had to make a very hard decision. you know, it's just so unfortunate that politicians like senator rubio are trying to politicize these kinds of very difficult concerns. and i don't think he should be
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>> you had your own debate this week with bernie sanders as well. you challenged him to come you have with evidence that contradictions contributions from wall street every changed your position. he circulated something from senator warren. >> one of the first bills that came up after she was senator clinton was the bank ruft si bill. >> and. >> she voted in favor. she has taken money from the groups and more to the point, constituency. >> how do you respond to that charge? about it. because this is one of these innuendo insinuation charges that the sanders campaign is engaging in. >> that was senator warren, though. >> i know. but if you played the entire quote you would have heard her
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in 2000 to stop a bankruptcy bill at the we both believed was very harmful. when i got to the senate in 2001, one of the first big vote there is was on a version of the bankruptcy bill. i was deluged by women's groups and children's advocate groups to do everything i could to make sure that child support and women's precarious financial situation in case of divorce or not being able to get the kind of funding they needed from a partner or a spouse in bankruptky would not be endangered. it was. that bill was making it a very low priority. soy did go to work on behalf of these women's groups and children's group. because they needed a champion. i got that bill changed. in return, it had nothing to do with any money whatsoever. and i resent deeply any effort imply. i had to do with trying to get a
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let me finish. this has been bantied about. i want to set the record straight. so then, three years later, part of what senator warren said, you played, you didn't play the whole thing, because we have been allies. i faced a tough decision. and i stood up for women and children. i went to the senate floor, said that was exactly what i was doing. the bill didn't pass. it never became law. when the next bill came up, 2005, women's issues were taken care of, because i had made that a point back in 2001. and so, then, i was against that bill. i didn't get chance to vote against it because bill was in the hospital having a heart procedure, but i put a statement out i was against it. i'm happy to set this record straight. i want to once again call out the sanders campaign, which claims they like to run a positive campaign. they've been quite artful in raising questions and trying to cast doubts about my record. and i really am not going to sit
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i have a public record, i have never ever been influenced in a view or a vote by anyone who has given me any kind of funding. and -- so, i'm just going to keep setting the record straight. >> in her book, senator warren said the bill was essentially the same but hillary rodham clinton was not. big banks were part of her constituency. she wanted their support, they wanted hers. >> i have the greatest respect for senator warren. as i said, we did work together. i faced a choice. i could have said to the women who have been my advocates for 30 year, i'm sorry. i'm in the senate now. i can't help you. nobody else was helping them. they were desperate to get help. they were afraid child support would be below credit card debt. they were going to be left out and left behind and badly dajd. i could have said, i can't do that. somebody in ten years might say
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on. that's not the way i work. they came to me. i went to the floor. i lobbied to get it changed. and, as part of getting the change from both democrat thes s and republicans, they said if we change the bill at the last minute to take account of the issues you're raising, about women and children, which they had not made a priority before i showed up, then, you know, you have to say you'll vote for it. it was, look, that's what you have to do. i swallowed hard. i said okay. it was also the case, it didn't get passed. i got what i needed into the bill. it stayed in the bill, even in a bad version that i posed in 2005. thank you for the opportunity to set the record straight. >> in the debate the other night, you said you would look into whether or not to release the transcripts of your speeches to financial groups. have you made up your mind? >> yeah, here's another thing i want to say. let everybody release everything
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we'll release them at the same i don't mind being the sbt in republican debates, the democratic primary. it goes with the territory. at some appointment, you know, these rules need to apply to everybody. and there are a bunch of folks, including my opponent who has given, you know erks speech groups. people on the other side who have given speeches to groups. if this is a new standard, it should apply to everybody. then i'll be happy to look into it further. >> madame secretary. thank you for your time this morning. >> great to talk to you, george. thanks. we'll be back with "the roundtable." what do may make of last night's
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i'm proud of my record. by the way, i like kasich's record, too. >> i trust kasich and christie to build the infrastructure. >> jeb is right. you delay and debate, the washington operators will take you down. >> there's so much that could be done. i trust the state capitals to be the source of innovation and reform in this country. >> best night yet for the governors on the the stage last night. they're behind right now in new hampshire. let's talk about the debate. where the campaign goes from here. cokie roberts, matthew dowd, donna brazile, and bill kristol. let me begin with you, matthew. marco rubio said he wouldn't do anything different. but the worst reviews of the campaign. >> i think he went in winning every debate coming up until iowa.
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debate in his momentum campaign. that stals any momentum he had. his ability to get second place is now in peril. i think the second thing, more importantly than that, is this kind of thing. is this kind of thing a virus that he can't get rid of? over the course of the campaign. will everybody see him through this lens? >> and, you know, the point that they were going after him on, the governors, especially christie were going after him on and that you heard in the sound bite from jeb bush is a very important one. the truth is, up until 2008, we only elected two sitting senators ever president. and then in 2008, there were two senators running against each other. so you had to pick a senator. obama's big resume point was not the united states senate. so this is -- always a problem for these guys. they don't have accomplishments to point to. you're in the senate, you have
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and you do on one side and the other of something because of the way legislation works. and so, the come pin nation bination of the fact that he has the senate, and first term senate around his neck and he keeps saying the same thing over and over again, people are saying, what are you good at? >> is that what voters see? watch him take on barack obama. is this something he just can come back from easily or is it like rick perry in the oops moment in 2008. >> david french had a good piece. rick perry with the horrible moment in 2012, too. on the other hand, mitt romney had a horrible debate in south carolina.
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wouldn't rls income tax forms. i think if you're christie, certainly kasich or bush. here. you don't think i'm getting out. >> all three of them can stay? >> they can. will get out. a week ago, trump was supposed to win. he lost the cruz. though bump. maybe he's another huckabee or santorum. rub know rubio has momentum. oops, he stumbled. if i were advising kasich or bush or mare chris tee, i would say why not stay in? isn't there another debate saturday?
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be the rock star to transcend the messiness of the republican party. he came out with a prerecorded stump speech in his head. he couldn't hit pause to respond to chris christie. chris christie prosecuted marco rubio. he came back to the stump speech. unlike obama, and then he stalled. i think it was bad night. >> he had ads on exactly is tame stop that same clip son tv other is on tv over and over. >> donald trump showed a lot of different sides of himself last night. he had to be help with the fact that, besides the exception of jeb bush on eminent domain, nobody else took him on. >> i think it was a perfect kasich. trump came in with a lead. iowa loss. he gets the guy coming up close
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the course of the debate. he had a few shots. he basically staid on even keel in the course of this. if we go into election night on tuesday, we may announce that new hampshire picks presidents and they're going to pick a democratic socialist on one side the that happens and a reality tv star on the other side. but new hampshire may be picking those two people as who they think is president. as well. no one touched him after the apology to ben carson. >> i guess it was a lot of reagan last night. reagan's 11th commandment. no one turned the other cheek on reeb yo. cruz didn't want to perform. he wanted to get out of the way. he was beaten up in iowa. i agree with matt. kasich, you know, we get asked all the time, who do you most fear. i don't fear anybody.
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talked as if he was looking past new hampshire into the fall. he talked to i think -- the fears of republicans, but the hopes of many americans. so i think he's one to watch leaving this state. >> more people stay in, bill kristol. the more people that stay in, the better it is for trump, isn't it? >> maybe. the late deciders went against trump in a big way. i think he'll underperform his poll number. i don't thing it's out of the question that john kasich could make it a close race. i think he'll become, of governors, the one with the best chance. >> he put all his chips here in this state. >> i think we feel this field has to get nair proepd i'm not sure the voters believe that pip think cruz could do well here. and be pretty strong. maybe this year's different.
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from different years. every time since the modern primary system, '7, republicans have nominated someone who won either iowa or new hampshire. you have to be vn first or second in both parties to win the nomination. trump is a weird wild card. cruz is sitting well. that is not nothing. coming in first or second in new hampshire would be big. >> and he goes into much more go south. >> march 1st. >> right. the other thing is the rules have made it easier for people to stay in. you don't get to waner take all primary until the middle of marnl. march. and you can have these superpacs to make it easier for people to stay in. >> march 15th, florida and ohio. both on the same day, both winner take all. if rubio, kasich, bush stay in,
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>> i think this goes for sure into april. even if jeb bush finishes fourth or fifth, he's going to go on. i'm the guy at the can step up and to that. even if kasich finishes second here, i don't think he has the resources to have a full um pact by march 1st. maybe later on. both sides of this, democratic and republican, is going to go long into the spring and maybe early summer. >> -- agreed to debates through may. >> the latest poll has 58. bernie sanders, 35. hillary clinton, 23-point lead for bernie sanders. hard to see how she can come back. >> the clintons are 1 for 2 in terms of winning new hampshire. they're they're they're2 for 2 in terms of spinning new hampshire. i think it will be a ten-point
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they have a ground game here. they're going to continue to move those voters who are undecided along the massachusetts border. they'll give bernie sanders the western, the northern part. they're going to make this part of the state their battle ground. >> if you said months ago, i think hillary clinton can spin a 10-point defeat to 74-year-old bernie sanders here in new hampshire. it's notable. i don't know why everybody assumes, once we get through the first two states, where sanders has been 50-50, suddenly it will change. >> it won't. bernie sanders could be the democratic nominee. it's a fact. >> and you're inviting. >> george and donna -- >> if donald trump and bernie sanders are the nominees in the major parties, welcome michael bloomberg.
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same kind of partisan issue that iraq played in 2008. it's become a very important issue for democrats. and i think, bernie has captured that on the democratic side. his ability to get independents really -- >> what did you make about how hillary clinton handled that issue this morning. calling out bernie sanders for this came pain of innuendo? >> there's a loft virtual on. it's rattling nerves. i think human rights campaign. or -- lawmakers saying that that's not the record. look, we're having our fight on the democrating side. it's energizing. it's engaging. >> i think when a candidate has to say, it's very complicated. she does differ from bernie sanders on economic policies. that's a true statement.
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debate, she could say, yes, we have pretty dig big difference. he's a socialist. >> gandhi said integrity is when your thoughts, words, and actions are in alignment. a lot of democratic voters -- >> wow, we have matt dowd quoting gandhi. >> we have all seen it. you're judged by your contributors and your friends. that doesn't do away. when she takes $20 million from wall street and gives speeches to goldman sack, she has to come up with answers. >> i'm proud that under my husband's leadership this economy did well. it can do well for wall street and for me. there's a sensible clinton democrat answer to bernie sanders. what was most striking about her con ver says with you is she's not giving it. >> she was the senator from new york. what's in new york?
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>> she makes that argument. >> it doesn't help. >> i want to pick up on what pill was saying. is the clinton team, once they get beyond new hampshire, going to have to start making the argument more directly about socialism? are they going to have to take it on directly? >> they'll have to find way to address the insecurities of americans that feel they've been left behind. at the same time, the aspirations of those -- >> that's not what i asked. >> i'll be donald trump. she didn't answer the question. >> hey, guess what? but, as a southerner, i know bernie sanders is going to be able to compete in the south. if he comes out of this state with a double-digit lead in terms of his national support, not national support, winning in new hampshire, he's going to give them hell in the south.
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>> he could get 40% of the vote. the fire wall will break with millennials. strengths. she has an incredible strong but i call backbone. but more importantly, she has people who will stand up and fight for her down south. >> give me the month when each nomination will be decided. >> oh, the month. may. for the democrats. for the republicans, june. >> i'll say april for the democrats, may for the republicans. >> i say april for the republicans. and may for the democrats. >> i don't know. after hillary's indicted for the e-mails. then everything will -- oh. >> there's an fbi investigation. we don't know what's happening.
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