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actually joe scarborough called yesterday and put something out. where basically it is on my side. that was early on. before the fact. it was very early on. he interviewed me years again at the very beginning. that was just put out yesterday evening. i think joe for that. look, i was against it. i was against it very early. we shouldn't have been in there. i think it is probably perhaps the worst mistake we have ever made. first of all, they didn't knock down the world trade center. it was other people without mentioning names. other people. some day they ought to open the report and find out. it was other people that knocked down the world trade center. it's, you know, no reason to go into it big now. it was a horrible mistake that unfortunately shouldn't have done it. thousand of lives. wounded warriors i love all over the place.
they wanted it for decades. decades. decade. they're taking it over. as the you sit there. i sit here. they're going in. taking over. walk in. do what they want. essentially already taken it over. >> last week when the pope made his remarks questioning your christianity. you said, no leader especially a religious leader should have a right to question another man's religion or faith. just last week, you questioned ted cruz's christianity tin the course of the campaign may have helped you win south carolina. why i it okay for you and not okay for the pope? >> no, i never questioned ted's -- anything having to do with his religion. i just said, you can't lie and hold up a bible. you can't do that. you just can't do that. it is not appropriate. i was tough on him on that. because things were said about me that were not true. and marco rubio actually said that he lied. i have never seen another politician to another politician that he lied. i guess it happens. marco gave me cover. he said the same thing. he said it during the debate
so i just said you can't say things which are lies and claim christianity. you can't do it. i just don't think it's good. i'm not questioning his christianity. i think it is inappropriate to hold up the bible and lie. >> do you think the pope may have helped you in south carolina? >> well, i am asked that question so much. i just don't know. i was first in a state of shock. i have never seen the pope talk about something as unimportant as donald trump. i was like, the pope is talking about me? this can't be happening? and then i said -- good or bad? they said it is bad. i said, oh. this was the day before the election. i said the pope is saying bad things about me the day before the election? and then, i gathered myself. and i realized it had to do with illegal immigration. he was opposed to, my measures which is basically creating a border the i came out very strongly that we want a border. the mexican government probably convinced him that, you know, donald trump was saying not nice
don't think it was a positive. i think it was probably neutral. don't think it was negative. could have been a tremendous negative. turned out to be probably neutral. i don't think it was a positive. and the pope was very nice by the way. yesterday, the pope -- issued a very nice statement. and i appreciated it. >> when the "cbs overnight news" returns. we'll hear from marco rubio, ted cruz and bernie sanders. and dirty? don't avoid it. resolve it. our new formula not only cleans and freshens but also softens your carpet so it's always inviting. resolve. a carpet that welcomes you. sometimes we use k-y ultragel to moisture so i can get into it a bit quicker. and when i know she's into it, i get into it and... feel the difference with k-y
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>> you have to make that happen. the dynamic to this point, donald trump in the 30s, high 20s. part of the electorate says they're not voting for him. divided among five or seven people. as the five or seven people continues to narrow down. it will make the race clearer. and clearer. of course, we have to earn the vote. there are people, supporting donald trump we believe we can win over as well. it is a smaller race and field today than last night. i think practically speaking it is down to three people who are still running. full-scale campaigns. i have respect for governor carson. he will stay in continue to fight. i know john kasich is out there. spend a week in michigan. today alone in three states. we are going to continue to campaign everywhere. we feel really good about this if any one wants to joint effort. marcorubio.com. we need their help. >> how will you take the voters away from donald trump as you say?
>> here is our argument. i am realistic. in 2010. ran for the senate five years ago. been there five years. enough time to know the damage barack obama has done to the country. but while i am realistic. i am optimistic about our future. a few things. if we do them we'll have the greatest era. i detailed what the things are. specifically. if you are running to be president. you can't tell people you will make america great again. explain policy wise. we are not going to win a general election with a candidate who refuses to detail policy. donald has time to do that. we can half a policy debate about whose idea are better. i believe that once people begin to understand what is at stake here, that we have a chance here, not just to make our country great, but greater than its have ever in we have a plan to do it. that will influence voters, not to mention, coalesce those who were with some one else around us. >> you want donald trump to be specific, offer more policies.
that from him for months. in the polls what it shows the that voters seem to be flocking to him they think he is the stronger candidate on issues of national security. are people wrong? how do you convince them they're not right to be for donald trump because he is stronger? >> i think strong rhetoric and strong action are two separate thing thousands. any one can use tough words. go over the top and say things that sound strong. sounding strong is not enough. you have to know how you will do it. look at some policies he talked about they would not make america stronger. views on vladamir putin are troubling. i don't think he understand who vladamir putin is or what he is freeing to do. these are the things that i think in detal you understand. when you are commander-in-chief, you are commander-in-chief on day one. you don't get like a six month grace period. the world does ptd -- doesn't stop and say -- let's wait till the president catches up before we challenge america. you have to know what you are doing on your first day there. look, this is not an attack tore anything of the nature. just a simple observation. if you want to be president.
public policy. i don't think from this point forward in the campaign, voters will be as tolerant of the lack of that as the they have been up to now. >> what else other than vladamir putin would you expect specific policy from him on? >> i mean on everything. health care. we all agree we will repeal obama care. what will you replace it with. we have detailed. he has the not. again on, issues of energy. how will we utilize our energy resources. what's the role of the federal government? what justices would you appoint to the supreme court not just because a vacancy now, at least one or two potentially in four to eight years. on virtually every major issue before the country. that tips the natural pursue of the federal government. important to have specificity about what you are going to do if you want to be the president. >> you said last night your campaign was defying expectations in south carolina. wasn't the expectation that you should have done better in south carolina given the large share
and the large share of those who self identify as evangelical christians. >> john, look at the first two primaries. started in iowa. the media said we don't have a chance. couldn't win. we won -- won overwhelming victory in iowa. big, big margin. went to new hampshire. all the media said, a conservative could not compete in a moderate new england state. we won a third place finish in new hampshire. we went to south carolina where a week ago, donald trump had a 20-point dominating lead. we ended up closing that gap tremendously. and finishing with effectively tied for second place. that combination what that has done to the race. at this point. we have seen the field narrow dramatically. there is only one strong conservative who has a path to winning. that is having the effect of unifying conservatives nationally and teeing us up for nevada and special for super
that was all t always our plan. >> let me ask you a question about evangelical voters, their poll shows they went for donald trump over you. do you think he questioned your christianity during the course of the south carolina campaign? >> listen, there is no doubt that both donald and marco got personal and nasty. both of them when you point to their records, they follow the same pattern. they've scream, liar, liar, liar. they impugn your integrity. attack your character. as you know, from the beginning of the campaign. nearly a year now i have consistently refused to respond in kind. not going to impugn them. any one's integrity, or attack their character, i will happily praise both donald trump and marco rubio as men who i admire. as people who, not going to go personal with them. but i do think we should be focused on substance and record. if you want a candidate who opposes amnesty, citizenship for 12 million people here. i am the only candidate who
you want a candidate who led the fight against obama care, who will lift the burders on small businesses and barack jobs. the only candidate with the proven record. if you want a candidate to defend life, marriage, religious liberty. second amount. and appoint constitutionalists to the court. i'm the only candidate with the record. that's why conservatives are uniting behind our campaign. if they want to continue with the attacks that's their prerogative. we will stay focused on the substance. i think that's what the voters want and deserve. >> substance of immigration and building a wall. you and donald trump want the same thing. he had a lot of experience in the business world executing get things done as a biz businessman. what would you say to a voter. you may share the same goals with donald trump on this, but you lack that experience of executed the way he has in the private sector. >> listen, i have joked more than once on the campaign trail i am going to build a wall. i have somebody in mind to build
there is no doubt that if you wanted a building contractor donald would be a strong contender for that. the question we have here is who is a leader on this issue. you know back in 2013. when we were having the epic battle on amnesty. when marco rubio joined with barack obama and chuck schumer and harry reid to push amnesty. i led the fight against it, standing shoulder to shoulder with jeff sessions and steve king and millions of americans. donald trump was nowhere to be found. he was tweeting support for amnesty a couple years ago. even now if you ask donald he wants to citizenship. 12 million people here illegally. deport them. let them come back in with citizenship. if listen, if you are a steelworker, truck driver. drives down your wages, take as way your job. we need to fight for the working men and women not monied new york interests.
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bernie sanders finished behind hillary clinton in the saturday nevada caucuses. sanders also appeared on "face the nation." >> senator start with the south carolina primary. you said last night you think you have an excellent chance on super tuesday. are you skipping your chances in south carolina? >> well, john, i am talking to you from columbia, south carolina. we have a major rally. we are not skipping over anything. but i think after south carolina, we have 11 states, we stand a good chance of winning a number of those states.
momentum. we lost yesterday in nevada by five points. a month ago we were 25 points behind. if you look at national polls. the numbers are tightening up. in some cases we are ahead nationally. i think people around the country are responding to our message of a rigged economy, a corrupt campaign. finance system and broken criminal justice system i'm feeling quite good. >> how should people judge the sanders campaign. you have come a long way. your message has influenced hillary clinton a great deal. should people say where are some big wins for bernie sanders? or hey, this is a message campaign. and let the message continue through the contests? >> this is not a message campaign the we are in the race to win. i think on super tuesday for example, you will see major victories. john as you know. most people know. these primary elections and
proportional. and that means it is not winner take off. for example, hillary clinton in we will need 2400 to win. a state-by-state process. and we are going to win big states on super tuesday. caucus goers, 90% thought experience to be president. right experience. how do you change that feeling? >> well, i think we have, remember when we started this campaign. hillary clinton is almost universally known. she was a first lady. secretary of state. a senator. i am a senator from the very small great state of vermont. not a lot of people know me. they don't know my experience the my 25 years in congress. eight years as mayor of city of burlington. get the word out. making progress. a long way to go.
the agenda that we are fighting for. this is a senator who has taken on every powerful special interest, whether wall street or the drug companies, military industrial complex. the more people know our record the better we do. i would point out, john, just yesterday to the best of my knowledge we actually won the latino vote in nevada. major breakthrough reaching out to a diverse nation. >> that is a major break through. hillary clinton, however won among african-american voters, a large portion of the electorate in south carolina. you don't seem to be making inroads and the clock is ticking? >> we are making inroads. we are doing better. interestingly. a lot of the polling i see is not along racial lines but generational lines. we are doing better and better among younger people.
i am against the death penalty. young man in michigan had his birthday party dream come true. steve hartman has his story. >> reporter: it is not unusual for police to get called to a party. but what was unusual about this party in lansing, michigan is it was in their honor. a police thank you party. put on by this most unlikely host. why did you want to do this? >> so i am throwing them the thank you party to show them i still appreciate them. >> last year, in the midst of all the police protests, 11-year-old jeremy bordoua,
asked his mom if he picked the wrong profession. he said, mom, the cops are still the good guys, right? i said, yeah, there are some bad ones trying to protect themselves. >> reporter: jeremy got that. he didn't like the idea of the good being lumped with the bad to. rectify the situation he told his mom for the next birthday all he wanted was to throw a thank you party for police. assuming they would come. >> i mean i thought there would be, three, four guys here. >> yeah, me into. >> you too? >> i didn't know this big, really. >> happy birthday to you. >> once word got out. more than 100 officers responded. and not just from lansing but all over state of michigan. deputy james rebel drove here
>> just wanted to stay thank you for doing all you do for us. >> you are welcome. >> because he saw not every police officer is bad. we are human beings. and that's what, he sees in us. >> one person that really recognizes what we truly are out here to do. >> just aren't kids like that. >> reporter: gary hall flew in from los angeles. >> got to till you jeremy how much this really means to us. and how -- how humble you are. >> reporter: the kid had no idea the depth of their gratitude. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> reporter: but he was about to find out. you're a good boy. >> thank you. >> see to help make all this happen. jeremy not only gave up his party. but his presents as well. so in appreciation for that sacrifice, the lansing police officer made him an honorary member of their force. we also have a hat for you. gave him a real uniform right done to the badge. i will pin this badge on you, okay. last year at this time.