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captioning funded by cbs and ford. we go further, so you can. >> is isis coming here? >> i think isil does want to eventually find its mark here. >> you're expecting an attack in the united states? >> i'm expecting them to try to put in place the operatives, the material or whatever else they need to do. >> the man who was supposed to stop that attack is john brennan, the director of the c.i.a. tonight, in a rare interview, we talked to brennan about a world of trouble. does isis have chemical weapons? >> we have a number of instances where isil has used chemical munitions on the battlefield. >> john buretta used to run the
u.s. attorney's office in the eastern district of new york, with a specialty in the mafia. >> who's vinnie gorgeous? >> he was used to names like, genovese and gambino and had never heard of fifa until the case ended up on his desk six years ago. but he knew how the game was played. pay me. you want this? you gotta pay me. >> those are definitely the allegations. >> you gotta pay me $10 million in one case. >> there were many millions in many instances alleged not just for low-level tournaments. but the world cup itself. >> so you're talking about shakedowns? >> absolutely. >> danny clinch has photographed just about every heavyweight in the music world: rappers, rockers, country stars, jazz and pop artists. he's developed friendships with many of his subjects, bruce springsteen included. which gets him up close and personal access. >> how you doing? >> how are you?
>> clinch has documented the history of american music. and he's always looking for the next shot. >> i always want to be prepared, because you never know who is going to come to your studio. >> i'm steve kroft. >> i'm lesley stahl. >> i'm anderson cooper. >> i'm bill whitaker. >> i'm scott pelley. those stories tonight on "60
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bernardino, california share a no one saw them coming. today, the biggest terrorist threat to the united states is not like al qaeda., sophisticated online, and operates freely in a vast territory of its own. it prefers to ate. the u.s. government calls it isil. reporters tend to call it isis for the islamic state in iraq and syria. name, it has the manpower, means and ruthlessness to attack the u.s. the man who is supposed to stop that attack is john brennan, thec.i.a. and tonight, in a rare interview, we talk to brennan about a world of trouble and we start with the most pressing danger.ere? >> john brennan: i think isil does want to eventually find it's, it's mark here. >> pelley: you're expecting an
to try to put in place-- the operatives, the material or whatever else that they need toople to carry out these attacks-- clearly. so i believe that their attempts are inevitable. i don't think their successes necessarily are.lain to the folks watching this interview why these people want to kill us? how does attacking the united states further their interests? >> brennan: i think they'reash between the west and the muslim world, or the world that they are in as a way to gain more adherents.claiming is that the united states is trying to take over their countries which is the furthest thing from the truth. re of intelligence. all but one of the eight terrorists were french citizens, trained by isis in syria.nnoticed, and attacked six locations killing 130 people.
that isil probably has underway that we don't have obviously full insight into. we knew the system was blinking red. efore that isil was trying to carry out something. but the individuals involved have been able to take advantageeans of communication that are-- that are walled off, from law >> pelley: you're talking about encrypted internet communications.talking about the very sophisticated use of these technologies and communication systems. >> pelley: after paris you told your people what? >> brennan: we've got to work harder. we need to have the capabilities, the technical capabilities, the human sources. we need to be able to have advanced notice about this so- the steps to stop them. believe me, intelligence security services have stopped numerous attacks-- operatives the iraq to syria theater into europe. they have been stopped and interdicted and arrested and detained and debriefed because
paris allowed isis to attack with bombs and assault rifles. and brennan told us there's more in their arsenal.l weapons? >> brennan: we have a number of instances where isil has used chemical munitions on the battlefield. >> pelley: artillery shells. ah. >> pelley: isis has access to chemical artillery shells? >> brennan: uh-huh. there are reports that isis hasal precursors and munitions that they can use. the c.i.a. believes that isis has the ability to manufacturelorine and mustard gas. >> pelley: and the capability of exporting those chemicals to the west?ere's always the potential for that. this is why it's so important to cut off the various transportation routes and smuggling routes that they have used. >> pelley: are there americanight now hunting this down? >> brennan: the u.s. intelligence is actively
the effort to destroy isil andmuch insight into what they have on the ground inside of syria and iraq. >> pelley: john brennan has worked at the c.i.a. for most of 36 years, ever since he saw an graduate school. and he was a high ranking executive here during the recent controversies, iraq's phantomction and 9/11. do you think of water boarding as a dark time in the history of your agency? >> brennan: sure.ething that was authorized. it was something that i do not believe was appropriate.s not used now and as far as i'm concerned will not be used again. >> pelley: you were in management here at the time. you didn't stop it. >> brennan: no.to a few people my misgivings and concerns about it, but no, i did not, you know, slam my fists on a desk.y "we shouldn't be doing this."
i maybe should have done more of at the time. but it was a different time.ld trade center were still smoldering. we knew that other waves of attacks were planned and some that were underway. >> pelley: in the year or soc.i.a. had a covert action plan to attack al qaeda in afghanistan. the administration at that time we have time. we'll deal with this later." and then 9/11 happened. is this administration making >> brennan: well you know there are a lot of options that are presented to this administration as well as to previous administrations and thewhat he believes is appropriate for us to do in order to protect the citizens of this country. directed attack in the united states? >> brennan: if there's a major
fingerprints on it certainlyrage us to be even more forceful in terms of what we need to do. >> pelley: if our policy after an attack in the united statesrceful, why isn't that our policy now before an attack? >> brennan: well, i think we're being as forceful as we can be in making sure that we're beingas well. what we don't want to do is to alienate others within that region, and have any type ofhat are going to lead to deaths of additional civilians. >> pelley: the c.i.a. brennan leads from langley, virginia lo joined. it's grown significantly but the numbers are secret. c.i.a. fights with its own ground troops and has an air force of drones.xity of the threats today is unprecedented; hacking, the emergence of a more aggressive china, north korea,untries
east. in addition to syria you are nowates in libya, somalia, yemen. how do you develop intelligence in all of these countries wherece? >> brennan: we need to be able to operate in areas that are denied to us. we find a way to have our eyeso that we can inform our policy makers. i do think though that this is going to be more and more a feature of the future. and we here at c.i.a. are enhance our expeditionary capabilities and activities because we need to be on the front lines. >> pelley: well do you imagines, covert bases in many of these countries? >> brennan: i see c.i.a. needing to have the presence as well asect intelligence and interact with the locals. and we are in fact doing that in
the authority to okay a drone strike? >> brennan: i know there are a lot of reports about the c.i.a.'s role and involvement on that. and i think as you canng to address any of those reports about c.i.a.'s covert action activities. >> pelley: do you have to accepts when making a decision about using these weapons? do you have to say, "there are likely to be civilians killed here but it's worth it?"know in war there is what's called the law of armed conflict that allows for proportional collateral, collateral being civilian deaths.that the u.s. military and the u.s. government as a whole does an exceptionally, exceptionally e greatest extent possible any type of collateral damage. >> pelley: but it isn't necessarily a shooting war that worries brennan most.cing a new front in cyber. and to focus on it he set up the
in more than 50 years. environment can pose a very, very serious and significant adversaries if they want to take down our infrastructure, if they want to create havoc in transportation systems, if they damage to our financial networks. there are safeguards being put in place. but that cyber environment is one that really is the thing that keeps me up at night.untries have the capability of turning the lights off in the united states? >> brennan: having the capability but then also having the intent are two different things.ely right now those who may have the capability do not have the intent. those who may have the intent right now capability. because if they had the capability they would deploy and employ those tools. >> pelley: a few months ago your personal e-mails were hacked.m that, director?
are ways that individuals can get into the personal emails of anybody.ivacy dead? >> brennan: no. no. privacy should never be dead. >> pelley: yeah, i know it shouldn't be.th these hacktivists, with these nation state actors, with all the things that we've learned about government snooping all aroundfectively dead? >> brennan: you know, it's interesting that people always point to the government or others, in terms of the invasion of privacy. but-- >> pelley: any government? >> brennan: yeah, butlly giving up their privacy, you know, sometimes wittingly and sometimes unwittingly as they give information to companies or to sales reps.book or the various social media. they don't realize though that they are then making themselves vulnerable to exploitation.ecure phone rings in the middle of the night, what's your first thought? >> brennan: it's usually one of
tragic has happened to a c.i.a officer or to u.s. personnel.a terrorist attack somewhere of-- of significance. and so when i reach for the-- a short prayer that it's not that. the other, other option is that i'm being asked to make a of the night on something that may have life and death implications. could be something related to a covert action program.rs died on your watch? >> brennan: yes. yes. not long after i came to the agency we had an officer, aer, went back out to afghanistan. in the middle of the night he heard a-- an explosion at the compound next to his where hise sleeping. he grabbed his gear, he went over there. another explosion took place.
and started to drag his wounded afghan partners out of harm's way. he was hit twice.e, then as he was continuing to protect his colleagues and comrades, a hand far from him and he was mortally wounded. >> pelley: brennan told us that he has gone to dover, delaware to receive the remains of his fallen.go when he won't be seen, so no one will connect the body under the flag with the c.i.a.mous stars are carved for the dead. 113 in all, 31 since 9/11.ver an annual memorial for the families. >> brennan: we have family members of agency officers who
nephews come back here in orderis agency. so it's a great, great honor to be a part of this organization men and women of the agency have done their absolute best. have we made mistakes? yeah, we have. do we need to be held accountable for them? yeah.forget the sacrifices that have been made in the name of c.i.a. >> glor: good evening, the u.s. and cuba will sign an agreement tuesday to restart commercial flights. at a summit this week as it decides whether to stay in the european union. and u.s. markets are closed tomorrow but reopen tuesday.
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>> steve kroft: as everyone knows, big-time sports haveess, and most of the organizations that run them operate with little or no oversight from government or independent entities.ise like concussions in football, and doping in baseball that demand public scrutiny, but there has never been a scandal like thethe most powerful sporting organization in the world. its purpose is to regulate and promote the most popular sportional football, or soccer as we call it in the united states. but according to the u.s. justice department, it has beenzed crime
and some of those alleged crimes like bribery and money laundering were planned ande united states. dozens of top fifa officials past and present are under indictment and the investigationstages. fifa officials from around the world will descend on zurich for a special meeting: one of the most important in its 112-yeare of its last. its ranks have been thinned. its president, sepp blatter secretary fired and five current executive committee members facing criminal charges. some nervous delegates maynt, given what happened the last time they got together in may. authorities swooped in and made arrests here and on threeacting at the behest of the u.s. justice
loretta lynch. >> loretta lynch: they were expected to uphold the rules honest, and to protect the integrity of the game. instead, they corrupted the business of worldwide soccer to serve their interests and to enrich themselves.fifa's main job is to organize and run the biggest sporting event on earth, the world cup, a month-long tournament of national teamsillions and billions of dollars and crowns a world champion every four years. it's like the olympics, only bigger.he games can alter a nation's fortunes and the competition is intense. it's fifa's executive committee world cup will be held and how the billions will be divided. according to the indictment that's where the corruption comes in.eering enterprise work? >> john buretta: the allegations are that it was all about
choosing where events would be held. the rights to broadcast. it was those key choices which were very lucrative to the recipients that created the power here.uretta used to run the organized crime section of the u.s. attorney's office in the eastern district of new york, with a specialty in the mafia. >> kroft: he was used to names like, genovese and gambino and had never heard of fifa until the case ended up on his desk.me was played. pay me. you want this? you gotta pay me. >> buretta: those are definitely the allegations. >> kroft: you gotta pay me $10 million in one case. many millions in many instances alleged not just for low-level tournaments. but the world cup itself. >> kroft: so you're talking about shakedowns?. >> kroft: according to the indictment that $10 million bribe was paid by the government
the money, originally disguised as a charitable contribution ended up in a bank account controlled by former fifa vicearner, a trinidian who then ran the north caribbean confederation of fifa, which was headquartered in new york.fighting extradition to the u.s. >> jack warner: keep the faith, man. you gotta keep the faith. >> kroft: warner is one of 25 fifa officials who have beents. as for the bribes, well there are too many of them to go into here. the biggest was $150 million marketing firm for contracts to sell broadcasting rights. then there were the smaller tips: a stack of envelopes eachin cash from an executive committee member from qatar who was buying votes in a fifa election. qatar has a very high profile at fifa right now.e of some
>> sepp blatter: the 2022 fifa world cup is... qatar.taris were happy, but most people thought it an odd choice-- one that brought fifa unwanted attention and made it the butt of international jokes.are now allegations that some fifa executives took bribes to put the world cup in qatar, and i hope that's true. literally no sense. >> kroft: its not just that temperatures routinely top 120 degrees in the summer or thatan rights record. the tiny country has no soccer tradition, and it would seem very few fans. games there are often played in empty stadiums.red its own internal security report which warned of a high risk for terrorism. maybe the executive committees dazzling, multi-media virtual reality vision of what the qatar
2022.is all just a mirage. most people who follow international soccer aren't surprised by all this. fifa has been an open secret in europe largely because of this man, andrew jennings, a grizzled freelance reporter who had been harping a decade. >> andrew jennings: all we know is, it's the biggest scandal ever in world sport. there's nothing like it. >> k this? i mean were you a-- were you a soccer fan? >> jennings: definitely not. ( laughs ) i mean-- good luck to people who enjoy it, but i'm a crime reporter.a and, right, that's it. it's there. and i'd no doubts about it. >> kroft: jennings, who hads exposing corruption at the international olympic committee, was asked by a sports editor to take a look at fifa. he couldn't believe his luck.rt thinking, "there's a few bad apples. oh, goodness me, here's a few more.
>> kroft: so, bribery was justcedures at all level of fifa? >> jennings: well, there does come a time that you don't really get upset anymore, just another bribe.y. in fact, it's-- it's a way of operating. it's an m.o. it's how they'd run the business. >> kroft: when he began asking news conferences a dozen years ago, he was ostracized and exiled to the parking lot. he sporting press considered him a gadfly, but he turned out to be right, and eventually people started paying attention.he bbc launching kamikaze attacks on the likes of fifa president sepp blatter. >> jennings: do you know whichk bribes from the i.s.l. marketing company? >> blatter: i don't speak about that. >> kroft: and the aforementioned fifa vice president jack warner... polite inquiry. >> warner: if i could have spit on you, i would have spat on you.
on me you would spit on me?ally received his vindication in 2009 when the fbi asked for his help and invited him to london to meet with their agents.tled down to london and went into the room. three immaculately dressed. perfect manners.ds that says they did organized crime. and at that point, we were in. >> kroft: jennings gave the fbier, the only american on fifa's executive committee, who lived and worked out of trump tower. character: 400 pounds of fun. he kept a pet parrot, traveled on private jets with worldfinest restaurants, and over a seven- year period, ran up $29 million in charges on his black american express card.lot of this on
have been having such a good time he forgot to pay his taxes, mistake for blazer and fifa. >> michael hershman: in my judgment, this indictment would not have happened without chuck blazer.hman, has spent most of his career doing government and corporate investigations, and he knows chuck blazer. he says when the fbi arrestedely offered a deal: go to jail for tax evasion, or cooperate and wear a wire. >> kroft: and he chose the latter? >> hershman: he chose the latter.chain of some kind. >> hershman: he had a keychain that was a microphone, as well as a keychain. >> kroft: hershman spent two ye being appointed to a governance committee charged with reforming the organization in the midst of all the scandals. that we would be able to take this organization and help turn it around, but i was dissuaded from that notion fairly early on.
lot of push back from the president, sepp blatter, and the executive committee members, many of whom were dinosaurs andhe system change. >> kroft: he says there was a culture of corruption at fifa, and its top officials weren't interested in advice from outsiders.as diplomats, entitled to financial gratuities and expensive gifts. >> kroft: they wanted tribute? >> hershman: they wanted tribute.d like kings, if you will. >> kroft: did you get any sense of that there was any fear or concern about somebody prosecuting them?oever. >> kroft: and with good reason. it's no accident that the world's most powerful sports organization is headquartered here in zurich.al of switzerland, a country whose economy is based on the principles of corporate privacy, and banking secrecy.dvantage
roland buchel, a member of the swiss national legislature, saysifa received about as much government scrutiny as a yodeling club. the corruption's been no secret. people have been talking about it.allegations made for a decade or more. why didn't the swiss government do something? >> roland buchel: well, there was a problem, a problem of laws. corruption at this time it was--e. >> kroft: you're saying it was all right to bribe people? >> buchel: of course it wasn't all right, but it was not a crime. this money was even tax deductible. bribes was tax deductible. that's-- that's just-- it's not- - it's not good. >> kroft: it was not only legal, it was tax deductible? >> buchel: yes. it's tarnished the reputation of switzerland at all? >> buchel: yes, of course. absolutely. >> kroft: buchel has since managed to push through legislation making all forms ofhe swiss attorney general has finally begun his own criminal investigation into president sepp blatter and the qatar world
with the investigation and it's position is that its a victim in all this: that it's a legitimate, law-abidingt's been used by unscrupulous individuals on the executive committee, and that justice should be allowed to run its course. >> jerome champagne: let'snd after that we go for trial. i have no problem with that. >> kroft: jerome champagne, a fifa defender, was one of seppsors for a decade and is running in the upcoming elections to replace him as president. i mean, it's been said that you were his eyes and ears. >> champagne: uh-huh.rate? >> champagne: sometime his mouth also. >> kroft: sometimes his mouth. eyes, ears and mouth. not the nose? did you-- >> champagne: no.dn't sniff anything out? mr. blatter-- >> champagne: i was-- >> kroft: didn't sniff anything out that anything was wrong-- >> champagne: i tell you, i was not involved in financial aspects. >> kroft: it-- if sepp blatter were running for reelection >> champagne: i tell you, he would be reelected. >> kroft: he would be reelected? >> champagne: yes.
sheikh from bahrain, a wealthy south african businessman and a european soccer official.preaching reform to a fifa membership that has long resisted it. i mean, fifa seems to be saying, "okay, we've got this under control. you know, we're-- we're changing. we're reforming"-- be serious-- >> kroft: "and blatter's gone"-- >> jennings: you can't be serious.'m-- i'm jus-- this is what they're saying? >> jennings: they haven't-- done anything. they've nothing to reform themselves. >> kroft: so, you think it's going to be business as usual? >> jennings: well, it'll be an attempt, because they know nothing else.he major decisions at the world's most powerful sports organization are being handled by fifa's legal department in consultation withd a p.r. outfit from washington. all of our requests for on-
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march of 1999, an up-and-coming got two phone calls that would change his life.dylan's manager, asking him to take some pictures of the legendary singer. and a few hours later, bruce springsteen's people also calledt. in the 17 years since, danny clinch has photographed just about every heavyweight in the music world: rappers, rockers,azz and pop artists. tomorrow night, he'll be backstage at the grammys, taking portraits of the winners as he
with many of his subjects, and that gets him up close and personal access on stage and off. for example... bruce springsteen, hitting the road on tour once more, his wife patti by his side. and danny clinch is there toimes, and >> danny clinch: in '99 was the first time i photographed you guys and it was then. >> cooper: and shoot the band rehearsing. years, clinch has taken thousands of pictures of springsteen, and many have become classics.is in a farmhouse that's on bruce's property. and it's just a really sweet
ortraits of the artist offstage that mirror the tone and the message of his music. and there's the famous shot ofck into the crowd, where from the stage, clinch had a perfect view. >> clinch: i was like, right in there. and he fell back and i got my shot. know you got it? >> clinch: i felt like i did. yeah. >> cooper: clinch wears many hats, pun intended.it photographer at the grammys, he covers the musical spectrum. tony bennett and lady gaga. >> clinch: i'm not like a strong-arm guy. >> cooper: country star miranda lambert. >> clinch: you want to make people relaxed. >> cooper: singer-songwriter sam smith. find a common ground as quickly as you can. >> cooper: foo fighter dave grohl and paul mccartney. >> clinch: you're in a sensehat moment. and i never really get tired of that, and i never take it for granted.
>> clinch: yeah. >> cooper: he goes way back with many musicians.tasio of the band phish, one of several that let him shoot on stage, trusting him to stay out of the way. ear's eve: phish is playing madison square garden and to the crowd, clinch is the invisible man.ing a concert? what are you trying to get? >> clinch: i'm trying to capture a moment. it's not about the singer at the microphone.ok for, like, a moment in between. >> cooper: he works from the back of the stage, hiding behind the drums or the amplifiers,tween moment. popping up like a whack-a-mole to get his shot. and sometimes over the years,g, as in this classic photograph. the view from the stage of foo fighter's dave grohl and a cast
>> clinch: it still gives me goose bumps.is one, at a pearl jam concert. eddie vedder and jeff ament, airborne. >> clinch: i popped up from behind jeff's amplifiers. the whole stadium was lit.in that perfect moment. >> cooper: you were hiding behind an amplifier. >> clinch: yeah. >> cooper: do you wear earplugs? >> clinch: i should. ( laughs )'t. >> clinch: i often don't, yeah. >> cooper: i'm surprised you can even hear me. >> clinch: yeah. >> cooper: or are you just reading my lips? >> clinch: yeah. it is- i get out there and i'mprobably have some earplugs." and then i'm like, i forgot them. >> cooper: learning the ropes, clinch was an assistant to photographer annie leibovitz. natural light, and agrees with what the famous war photographer robert capa said: if your pictures aren't good enough, you're not close enough.'s not working, he's still looking for that perfect shot. >> clinch: i'm photographing all the time. i'm such a visual person and i ment. >> cooper: you're never without your camera? >> clinch: rarely. >> cooper: even right now sitting here?
see? i always want to be prepared, who's going to come to your studio. i really like this a lot.is a place where any music fan would love to be locked up for a few days. it's like a history of rock and roll. >> clinch: there's a couple ou so we'll show these over here. >> cooper: a couple years back, he photographed one of the men who started it all: chuck berry, who's now 89.ding father: jerry lee lewis, who's 80. and here are some pictures from that first session with bob dylan. >> clinch: we were trying tove him a little something to do. somebody came back with a whole bunch of different language newspapers. and he picked that one up and i started to shoot.g it real simple. >> cooper: more of his greatest hits: southern gothic, gregg allman on a rainy day in savannah.o go
loneliness of life on the road. country stars faith hill and tim mcgraw. tom waits. nora jones.ur. >> clinch: he was really professional and he was into it. we chose a shirt that he was gonna change into. he took his shirt off and i saw all the tattoos.ld you mind doing one like that? and he said "yeah." >> cooper: when you took this did you know how strong it was? >> clinch: i mean, i felt like this was really a powerful image.city of it was really powerful. >> cooper: clinch has branched out into making commercials and music videos. willie nelson's bedroom on his tour bus. n't mind me taking his photograph, but he's not really crazy about sitting and being directed and all that sort of stuff.work with that. >> cooper: he also got some very candid stills.
and indulging in his favoritetime, smoking a huge stick of weed. i don't even know what it would be called, it's so big. >> clinch: i know, it's something. >> cooper: it's like a cigar. >> clinch: somehow i can't after that. >> cooper: and then, there are the occasional shoots he wishes he could forget. at a madonna show many, many years ago and i was like in the sweet spot and she came out and i mean it was the best part of the show.ooting, shooting, shooting. and i'm like, "god, i must have shot a hundred pictures have i not run out of film?" and i opened the back of myo film in there. ( laughs ) so that happened to me only once. >> cooper: ouch. son he gets along so well with musicians: he knows the language, wearing yetth the
sometimes jamming with the likes of willie and bruce. his harmonica, like his camera,s. he grew up on the jersey shore,a few miles down the garden state parkway from springsteen country. bug from his mother. >> clinch: she always had a camera, always still has a camera. and at times i find myself taking pictures of her taking pictures of the family.s father, he got a taste for classic rock and roll from the '50s, and classic cars.sion: a 1948 pontiac silver streak. the sort of car his father always noticed when clinch was a kid. t he would go, "oh, there's a '55 chevy." and, "oh," you know, "look at that 1959 cadillac." and i started to love cars myself. >> cooper: and he's alwathem into the
springsteen with the pontiac, and in his wife's 1950 hudson with clinch's father at the wheel.eil young's hat. and young inside, tooling around nashville. >> clinch: this was a great moment for me. be driving around in this cadillac >> cooper: yeah. was he driving? >> clinch: he was driving yeah, yeah. and we stopped at a little intersection and i grabbed it. are him for the trip he made in december to the old car capital of the universe: havana. to be a photographer's dream. >> clinch: i'll tell ya, there's so much interesting culture and everywhere you look is a photograph. have a smile on your face kind of all the time. >> clinch: yeah. yeah. >> cooper: the preservation hall uban music festival, and clinch tagged along with a documentary film crew.
of new orleans. a distinctive sound, and some distinctive instruments. rock and roll bands, don't see a lot of rock and roll bands with a sousaphone. >> clinch: yeah. that's true.f new orleans and havana are much alike. and the americans were soon jamming with cuban musicians: on stage, at their homes.linch: you don't need to speak spanish, you know? you just need to speak music. >> cooper: between concerts, clinch wandered the city, snapping away.ars. >> clinch: i'm not just a fan of the really restored ones, the shiny ones. but i like the working man's cars. how they've fixed it, how it hader time. >> cooper: but his biggest thrill came backstage, with the band warming up. they were preparing for the show.
impromptu, like jam, this percussion type thing. ts. >> cooper: he's seen a lot of moments, heard a lot of music. . >> clinch: it doesn't matter if it's hip-hop. it doesn't matter if it's jazz, or anything in between.ere, it's good music. >> cooper: and you can get a photo out of it. you can capture it. >> clinch: so far, yeah. ( laughs )clinch's notebook, tupac shakur said: if a picture is worth a thousand words, photographers are worth a million. shared by clinch's fellow native of the jersey shore, who says... >> springsteen: this is the man here. >> cooper: this is the man. want the picture.
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is: i've never heard anyone who could play like him. >> cooper: nobody. >> marsalis: and no one has heard a person who could play like him.s genius. >> marsalis: there's no question about that to any of us. >> cooper: do you know how something before you do it? it sounds really hard? >> joey alexander: it is kind of hard. nly has joey's album "my favorite things," been nominated for two awards at tomorrow night's grammys- best instrumental jazz album and bestion, but he'll also be performing on- stage at the awards ceremony in front of the elite of the music world, and a national audience here on cbs. anderson cooper.
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