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i'll see you tomorrow on "gma." >> bipartisan progress on climate change, republican carlos c, rbello teams whip ted doach to find consensus on climate change. he is wiwh us live. >> this place has had a culture of corruption and a culture of obstruction. for too long. >> blowup at broward health. the hospital district board goes behind closed doors with allegations of corruption. board chair is live with us today. >> he bed can't get no oxygen,
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going on. >> gunfire at two south florida schools. bullets hit the building but missed students and teachers just barely. a disturbing trend and we will take it uwith the round table. >> so much to talk about today. good morning. and welcome. great as always to have you aboard. >> we are back atull strength this morning and we have a m-packed hour for you including this nasty dispute that is tearing up broward's tax funded hospital system broward health. >irst up though a bipartisan effort to address one of the most pressing issues at our end of the state peninsula, climate change. >> it is an issue that has become higy contentious in recent years with many republicans saying they have not seen convincing evidence that human activity causes climate change or sea level rise. most democrats on the other hand say the evidence and science behind it is overwhelming and that steps must be taken to curb it, congressman carlos cu rbello
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this week he formed with democrat ted doach to form what they called the climate-- he is representing the 26th congressional district southwest miami dade and the ks. good morning, and well koch. >> good morning, happy valentine's day. >> thank you, and to you and your wife and thanks for coming in. let's begin with the climate solutions kaw sus. it is so unusual that a republican and democrat and ted who we invited could not be here this morning did a liberal democrats and you are a moderate conservative republican. how did you come together to do this. >> we live in south florida. i represent the florida k ks much we live at about sea level and i have seen convincek hard data that sea levels are rising. i want to live here for the rest of my life. i know my little girls want to live here, probably want to live here the rest of their lives or at least have the option to an if we don't do something, the
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this is a sober effort to address an issue that is going to have, is already having a direct impact on our livelihood here in south florida and only look to get worse. >> so doing something means what. what is the mission of the caucus and what is the caucus planning to do that other efforts like this have not, legislative. >> so what we have done is historic because for the first time this issue is now officially a bipartisan issue the question is can we be relevant and we have to be relevant and that means crafting policies at that both parties can get b bind to address climate change. some of this is going to have to do with the human impact on climate change so mitigating human impact on climate change, meaning reducing carbon emissions, there are other components of it that are more practical like preparing for climate change. how do we builtlt infrastructure for south florida, make the government investments that
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make this area liveable. so we're now trying to build out the caucus, encourage republicans and democrats to join. you can only join if you have a partner@ from the other party that will join with you at the same time, that i a we keep it truly bipartisan. and i'm very hopefulul there are now 14 help cans in the house that have-- 14 republicans in the house that have signed a resolution that recognize this climate change as a role issue and encourages the government to start working towards solutions. >> what about house speaker paul ryan. have you approached him and said speaker, we have this bipartisan caucus and support us, help us? >> we want to grow our numbers before we go to leadership and start making specific requests. we need to show that we have a good strong number of republicans that will join democrats like ted deu tch who i am so greatful to him for having the courage, it takes courage to be bipartisan in washington d.c. these days. sometimes leadership on both
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so i thank him for being a wonderful representative for his community and fo his willingness to do this together with me. >> it is so interesting that you talk about 14 republicans have sort of signed on and you have been very clear that this caucus is going to look at human activity as a cause of climate change, which is something that, you know, senator marco rubio comes to mind, there are so many people who say the climate is changing, it's a matter of course but absolutely do not buy into the science of human activity as the cause. what do you say to someone like senator rubio as you attempt to go forward? >> i called out my good friend jeb bush who i am supporting and marco rubio who i think would be a great candidate for president, because they have the national stage now. they have the attention of the national, international prere and they know that this is an important issue for south florida. they live here. and i know that they want their
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able to live here too. so i think it's a missed opportunity. i'm disappointed, the moderators, even though they understand that for a lot of republicans this isn't an issue they want to talk about, the moderators should bring up climate change, especially when there are two south floor i had quans on the stage who at the very least should explain their ideas or thoughts on how we're going to address this in the future. or if they just think it's okay for the seas to keep rising and for us to do absolutely nothing about it. >> well, senator rube why at the two d dates ago said the impact on the paychecks of people who live week-to-week, pay quhek to paycheck would be tooevere, it would hurt the economy to impose any kind of-- climate change environmental rules changes. >> yeah, well, let me be clear on that. i too have some concerns th the epa. the epa moved in a very aggressive way. a lot of times they don't take
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but it is up to us to craft an alternative to the epa. how do we develop a market-driven approach to addressing carbobo emissions. that's what ted deutch and i are working on as an alternative to the epa. >> there is this lobby, this citizens' climate lobby who has this carbon fee and dividend program which almost addresses the costs to the local community. you probably know much more about that than i do. but it's essentially putting a fee on carbon e`issions but giving the dividends back to households to pay for it. is that something that is part of the caucus plan. >> there is growing momentum behind carbon pricing which is essentially, it's revenue neutraraso the government is not going to make a profit. the pricing or the cost gets redistributed to local communities, to low-income
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time e ergy prices go up it's low income people who suffer the most whether it's at the gas pump or when they get their electric bills, to helel those people as we transition to cleaner energy. whh should be the goal. and which is something that's happening heren florida very slowly. fpl doesn't have any coal plants. they're heavy on natural gas which is much cleaner than oil and coal. and they have new clear which is obviously carbon free. so we are making progress. what we're trying to do is speed it up so that we can hopefully reverse this trend. and at the same time prepare. we@ have to understand. we're not, we humans are notgoing to turn a switch and all of a sudden be in control of the world climate. so we also need to make preparations and investments in infrastructure that will allow us to keep livingere. miami beach is already doing that. >> congressman, let's move on to another bigtopic where you have been on the forefront and that
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you sproa introduced a couple of weeks ago an innovative actwhich would try to make a distinction for cubans who come here for economic reasons o o political asylum. explain what your bill would do.>> this is the first step in reforming our broken cuba immigration policiment today there are people living in cuba receiving public benefits that are funded by u.s. tax. >> social security payments. >> that immoral, it is wrong. there are seniors who are coming to the united staith every day from cuba and retiring here. and their social security eligible for life. some of them are making more, receiving more in monthly benefits than retirees who have worked in n is country for 30 an 40 years so what m my bill seeks to do is to stop the abuse of these benefits which are only supposed to be for refugees, for people who mer people who fear
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and leaving cuba to come here. there are plenty of those. the castro government has not changed much they continue cor turing, abusingk imprisoning unjustly but a loss of people o come and say they are here for a better job and should be treated as economic immigrants so under this law, if you are a cuban and you arrive-- arrive, you will have a choice. either you claim asylum and then you have t abide by all the asylum restrictions and you will get the benefits if your asylum claims approved. or you are here as an economic immigrant and will you get a work permit and won't be eligible for any benefits. i think this honors u.s. taxpayers and it also allows us to continue helping those cubans who are truru victims of percent keution. >> and some people have called you a traitor. you are a cuban american, proud of your cuban age sesry for sponsoring this. i will say senator marco rubio is the cosponsor in the senate. so you have got some powerful
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>> yeah, and for those that have called me a traitor, i think that is just a horririe way to think of this country. i mean the cuban communi^y, we have to all be so grateful. this country has been so generous with the cuban american community. and if the mentality is that every group that comes to t ts country just has to figure out the maximum benefit that they can extract from this government, ignoring everyone else, you know, in this country when you steal from the government, you're not stealing from a cor rupt family like you are doing in cuba, you are stealing from your neighbors. so this is a resnsible reform. it's a modest reform. this is not going to turn the tide of cubans coming to the united states. but at least it will restore some integritytyo the policy. >> does it undo, essentially, the cuban adjustment act? >> no, it has nothing to do with the cuban adjustment act. and legally, techically it doesn't in anyway address the
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i have said that if we want to change the cuban adjustment act that effort needs to be lead by the administration whether it'sthis adminintration or the next one. why? because if we make serious effort to change the cuban adjustment act which i think should remain while there is a total tarrian dictator in cuba, but if we are going to change at least the way it is applied t has to be done by the white house, why, because we inning could, we propose something, it kes weeks, months to debate. the anxiety levels in cuba would rise. it could really provoke a mass exodus so t e administration with really have to take the first step in reforming it. >> congressman curbelo great to you have come in. we will follow your caucus and wish you luck. >> appreciate it. thank you both very much. >> up next broward health is in crisis mode. they wt to keep an fbi
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the board chair is he next broward health is reeling from the sigh side last month of the c.e.o. and before that, a of 9 million dollar fine and now the fbi is looking to allegations of purchasing kick backs and bribery. >> the board of the publicly funded hospital district this week took its discussions about it all behind closed doors. and that's a decision that the board chair actually opposed. at chair of the north broward hospital district board joins us, david dipietro was appointed by gernor scott in 20116789 an attorney in fort lauderdale and welcome. >> mr. de pete ro thank you so much for-- mr. dipietro, thank you for coming in. we understand broward health has $1.34 billion annual revenues, 8,000 employees, it is a critical health provider for north broward and it's just been shake into the core by what is going on outhere, hasn't it? >> from starting from the
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from 2011 and then we ultimatel settled that case. and then with our c.e.o. taking his life and then now learning of a fbi investigation internal corruption, the system has beenen shake enment but i think our team and our employees need to know that the board and the upper management stand behind them and stand against corruption. i made a promise to the department of justice when we settled this case that i would hold evebody accccntable. and we would do the right thing. and that's why i'm here today because that is what i want to have happen. >> what many people didn't know until this week where it kind of exploded in this board meeting is thaha there say private investigator that was hired to essentially clean slate, root out corruption for a positive reasons. and in this meeting, all of this that this private investigator found somessues, wanted to take it to the fbi. but this board wanted to take all of that information and discussion of it behind closese
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>> that's a good question. i i ink they're getting bad legal advice from our general counsel, unfortunately. there's been allegations raised by an investigator who-- agreed to hire to look into some of these corruption informations. >> wayne black is his name and he is a widely respected investigator, once worked for janet reno. wayne black is sort of the gold standard as far as i'm concerned of private investigators, dr. elsinoti was the c.e.o. you worked with him. it is he who took his life a >> right. and he has been frus traited with how the investigation has transpired. the fb, has asked us for hard drives and different information and it's gone through this legal rig ma role through our high powerful lawyers who are claiming what i think are bogus privilege. >> where are those hard driris, now? >> i understand after mr. black's e-mail that materiall has been provided to the fb.
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all even though the general counsel advised-- or was holding up the dispercental of that information? >> under some theory of privilege which i don't understand. because experernced investigators for the fbi have taibt teams. they know how to remove that privileg information. but even as a lawyer and former plos cuter i'm scratching my head to figure out what privilege we're even talking about. >> can i just say that a lo of people who are watching here, this is north broward hospital district. a lot of people who live in different counties say it sounds like a ls of intrigue but the bottomline is here is a critical, multimillion dollar facility that is funded publicly that a lot of people believe has a culture of corruption. rightly or wrongly, hopefully we will find out. the district did pay a fin along those lines but i think the essential question here is what did the board know and when did they know it. >> well, i think the brd
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investigation until mr. black e-mailed the entire board advising them. i don't think our general counsel kipts advised of these allegations. now i think they're getting bad advice that we would obstruct the information by going into a secret meeting. think the secret meeting is illegal. but even if you can do it doesn't mean it's good policy. it's bad policy when corruption is alleged to have a secret meeting. >> you have a seven peb board. and on wednesday of this week and the sun sentinel wrote a terrific editorial about this, the vote was 5-2 to take the meeting in the shade, that is behind closed doors. you argued strenuously and one of the two votes against doing that was your vote. what was the argument on the other side to do this? >> that we would obstruct the investigation. my position was i wanted to know how did we andle the investigation. not what is going to happen and what are the allegations of the investigation. what i wanted the board to know
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billion dollar system, what didour management and legal team do to assist or hinder the investigation. that's important for board members to know. i think that the board, all my board members are wondeul people. we all serve for free. i don't think that anyon did anything maliciously. i think they were receiving bad legal advice that we would hinder the investigation. but at the end of theay we're accountable to the employees. and what are the employees thinking when they hear that a severance package has been paid to the suspect. what do they think? they need to look to the board to air it all out so that they trust us because they're going-- in order formployees to deliver the care to our patients and to the community, they need to look to the upper management that we're doing the right thing. >> the severance package you're talking about, let's talk about that. i know you cannot mention the name of that purchasing director, you might be legally liable if you were. but here was a guy who was under investigation for purchasing irregularities at the very
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parachute to leave the system. how much was he paid. >> it's unbelievable. i just got the agreement on wednesday because i asked for it. he got $1700 in pl time that was paid out. he is on our payroll until june. that@is really unbelievable. >> so you could be rewding bad we-ier. >> he agreed no the to disparage us and we aeed inn the to disparage him. if we are a victim as our management toll us of a prime, we should disparage him. >> what was the nature of his departure. >> it was done through a contractual agreement. and was never presented too the board or any of the board members. >> before or after the fbi investigation? >> it was pendzing. that's another thing is that wayne black was allegedly fired during this fbi investigation. but then when i asked questions, limited questions got to ask before we voatd, it appeared he was never rlly fired. >> could we go to break really quickly, pick this up right here when we come back. don't go anywhere.
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dipietro in just a minute. >> in our studio live this morning is david dipietro who is the chairman of the north broward hospital district. they do business as broward health and it is a huge operation. and david, they also, the system gets what, 150 million dollars a
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county for charity care, indij ent care. so there s i mean, there is skin in the game from the taxpayers of broward county as to how the system runs. >> in addition that is 140 in property taxes, medicare and medicaid money is probably in excess of 500 million. we're talking big dollars, that is why i'm glad thathannel 10 is watching over the system and reporting these issues. >> well, we are-- i mean that is our job. and ilso want to pay tribute to rosemary o'hara of the sun sentinel who has written some great editorials and will be along later to join our round table. the suicide of dr. elsinoti who had been on this program. he was i think i kind of a charismatic figure, he did not leave a note saying why he took his own life, did he? >> he didn't. he was a man i spoke to every day for four and a half years. he did a lot of great for the community. helped a lot of people and have
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for him. and i said it. he woulde the last person in the world i ever thought would do that. he was my sounding board. i would call him and he was my counselor. and somebody that i relied on as somebody as a friend and as somebody that was the best in his community. and just really tragic and a lot of unanswered questions. >> who is going to succeed him. >> we're going to dodo a public search. we're going to do a national search. i have asked that we put a policy together where the board is not lobbied that we have a search company give us qualified professionals regardless of political affiliation. and that the boardsn't lobbies and we in the public interview these folks. and we pick the best candidate from that process. >> can we get back to the fbi investigation, just really briefly. the purchasing director who is now under fbi investigationwho is allowed to have this severance pay taken, how, as a former prosecutor,ow does this sit with you?
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part of what people are calling the culture of corruption at browararhealth. >> i've never seen such a thing. how does that look if ariminal case is actually filed that we paid 75,000 or actually still on our payroll until june ande paid them 17,000 on the way out the door. as a former prosecutor, it looks like we are, it could appear,and i'm not saying we are. but it looks look it could be we are asking for his cooperation and silence. it could be received inappropriately. >> and so when you take that to your general counsel who has hired outside attorneys that you are now paying several hundred dollars an hour for to opine, what does she say? >> 695 is the top rate and the law firms have never gone through a bidding process by the board. these are all no bid and they're chosen at the pleasure of the generall counsel. so they're saying, what they are saying, i don't know. i have not gotten an answer as
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turn over information to the fbi. we're a public entity. we should open the doors in the filing cabinets when the fbi comes, period, end of story, there is no reason to delay even in the slightest in my opinion. >> i want to kind of button this conversation up by saying on wednesday the vote was 5-2, to have the meeting in the shade. but you never did have that meeting in the shade. you are now what, waiting for some kind of a legal opinion about how you should meet, whether openly or behind closed doors. >> we are waiting for a legal opinion which i already know the answer. >> from whom. >> that will be interesting to find out. i think the board should pick the lawyer that decides who will give us that legal opinion. i thinthere is a conflict of interest at this point. >> you u`equivocally think it should be in the open? >> even if we could legalay do it, doesn't mean it is the right thing for the public. just because we can have a secret meeting dnt mean it is good public policy.>> have board members hired their own defense attorney. >> mot that i have heard. >> should they?
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their own council. i don't think it should be a defense attorney. i think it should be general counsel to advise the board on how to proceed. >> we will be at your meetings. and for what it is worth, i mean as practicing journalists, we hope that the meeting is in the public. we believe also that is where it should be. that is the public business. it is taxpayeroney. it should be in the open, should not be behind closed doors.>> if they do a secret meeting, i won't attend. >> we appreciate your openness and your willingness to come here and sit here very much. >> thank you, thank you for reporting. >> thank you so much. >> thank you. up next we are going to take us all to our powerhouse round table. (cell phone rings) where are you? well the squirrels are back in the attic. mom? your dad won't call an exterminator... can i call you back, mom? he says it's personal this time... if you're a mom, you call at the worst time.
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>> so much to talk about this week. from presidential politics to stories. >> so let's get right to it with our power house round table. rosemary o'hara, familiar face, editor of thed tor yal page e the sun sentinel which this week took a very critical look at the broward health board choosing to meet behind closed doors. marlon hill, miami attorney, the firm of hamilton, miller. a radio broadcaster, civic activist and all around good guy. mark capu to for political news, he writes the daley political florida play book which say great way to sta your day if you are a political jkie.
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>> how early do you get up to do that. >> it depends, sometimes i just don't sleep. >> show i believe you. >> if we can, i want to begin with something that is just a little personal but i think its' so important tohe entire community. that is your wife is a teacher at francis tucker elementary school in coconut grove. and there as with another school this week, thugs fired bullets that went into a classroom, thank god no child, no teacher, no administrator was hurt. but tell us about your personal experience with that. >> the problem that schools l le francis tucker are having is that violence is coming closer and closer from the neighborhood to the school. last yeaea there was gunfire that children playing on the playground cld hear and they ran terrified. there was also a home invasion murder which took place at a house on the south floor line that shares the south property line with the school. this time there was some sort of situation where one guy went to
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the guy jumped the fence at the school and as he was running nine shots were fired. this time at the school, one of the bullets almost hit one of the students who happened to be one of my wife's students, who was getting special instruction in another classroom. these are community systemic problemu. so i don't want to, obviously you blame the shooter for the shooting but this is a clar oncall to law enforcement that it is t)me to start patrolling these neighborhoods more heavily, certainly during school hours because if you talk to the superintendent he say there have been 60 school age children who have been shot this year, none killed. >> but marlon, now the shootings, we saw this week and carol city high, the property. i mean these are-- we saw at carol city they were mainly gangbangers who were shooting at each other, bubu there ask no justification. and this is just dispictable. >> this is not a recent pb, attorney general loretta lynch was here this week.
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terrorism the same as we treat domestic terrorism with regards to our neighborhoo and hope the resources we dedice, superintendent car valo and chief move et i know are working dill gently to make sure we keep hools as sacred places. schools where our kids, one of the mostwonderful constituencies we need to make sure we-- bullets no know borders, we sit here in this table, newsroom, community, there is not a day that goes by where we don't talk about violence in our community, now thatp it's hitting home, because a school is a home, now that it's hitting home, are people just now waking up and saying this is bad? no, this has been bad i feel like since we've been reporting. so do people remember this and is this a mark in time that will be a watershed moment? or not? >> our institutions really, you know, the law enforcement,
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are they always going to make this a property. security for our kids is a place for everyone but for our kids, and schools. >> but the only conversation you really hear is about school resource officers, that we need a policeman with a gun in every school. well, would that have stopped that, you know. what if they come in the back way or over by the gym. how many police officers with guns can you put witn a school district. mark, your point is that we need to be doing more enforcement around schools. >> correct. the do not underestimate the deter ant affect that a visible law enforcement officer will have on criminals engaging in crime. and i would presume, and it's a lj kal presump shun that if the guy shooting at carol city or ateach other around carol city high school saw police officers they wouldn't have done it i presume that the two fema was got in whatever scwawb el it was
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being shot at a school. if they had seen a police officer there, they would have taken their beef elsewhere. something, say something. >> that's not happening. >> that needs to happen more. we need to step up to the plate. >> there is a distrust and also a culture of not sniching. there is a distrust of the police. i'm not blaming the police or necessarily blaming the communities. >> that culture has to change. >> that is what loretta lynch was talking about when she was leer this week. one of t t thicks. if we can, i want to move on to broward health. rosemary o'hara you have been, i think, really in thehe van guard of pointing out how disfsfctional andnd how wrong headed in many ways the broward health brord has been trying to meet behindlosed doors to talk about a publicly funded hospital system that is being under allegations of corruption. >> right. if i can step back justor a minute. broward has two public hospital
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under the radar andhey generate $3 billion a year in revenue. >> right. >> when you have that much money, most of it going out in contracts, bad things happen. in the south which does businesses memorial, there say good strong reputation because of a c.e.o. >> frank sacko. >> but he's retiring after 28 years so there is a fear in t south that the south will turn into the north. in the north decades, really, of allegations of corruption. and now we've got talk of an fbi investigation, grand jury spps and a private investigatorho says that the district is drags its heels and turning over evidence. >> right. it's very disturbing situation. and you were at the meeting on wednesday. board when they voted to go in the shade and you stood up at that meeting, isn't you? >> yes, i did. >> and what d d you tell them? >> well, i told them that the
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boards to go behind closed boards if they are negotiating a settle am to a lawsuit to actual litigationment but this was an e-mail. there was an e-mail that the private investigators sent to the board and the general counsel saying, you know, what do i do here? thth're dragging your feet. and for some of the board members it's the first time they have heard about grand jury spps and fbi investigation. and instead of trying to talk about what is going on here and are we really impeding an investigation, they spent all eir time talking about how tho close the doors and k kp the public from finding out. what's going on thehe. >> even though they may be asking for this meeting, thehe public doesn't take advantage of going to these meetings anyway, michael. these are public entities. one of the tenth largest public hospital district in the country. >> the public documentses you would find those e-mails and find tt string and know all about the fbi. >> well, it's t so easy.
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questions, because the general counsel who is embattled, a is part of the investigation, she is the person reviewing these public records requests. so there's a rea holdup. and i will tell you, though, because it's leaking out, the room was packed. so before a packed room of people who really care, we just sat there with r jaws open watching this board say we don't want to have this conversation in front of you. >> maybe a scandal wl get people engaged now.
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back with the round tab >> we should have never been in a wreck. we destabilizedhe middle east. >> while donald trump was building a reality tv show, my brother was building a security apparatus to keep us safe. and i'm proud of what he did. >> how did he keep us safe when the world-- trade center came down. i lost hundreds of friends. the worldrade center came down during the reign-- he kept us safe, that's not safe. >> the world trade center came down because bill clinton didn't kill o saman-- osama bin laden when he d the chance to kill him. >> it got hot and heavy last night at the republicanebate. and mark capu to, i mean donald trumu being booed, i mean loudly
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>> i don't want to sound like a trump partisan here but that was a stocked audience. whether it was by conspiracy or koins dense, that was an anti-trump audiencf from beginning to end. >> all the debate vtion been. they are an audience filled filled with bookers. >> this one sounded like it was just a giant bar, the amount of boos he got. but remember, if you look at all of the polling, all the research and results, those people are with donald trump, they are with him hell or high water. >> so he can even criticize george w. bush as did he last night. d i guess rosemary in the end, i mean is he, trump ip kind of testify long coated. so the people who believe in him almost simply look past what any ordinary other politician could be just a self-destructed tendency. >> well, you kno it's like, he says it like it is. and frankly when he was saying that the war in iraq was a mistake, that could have. >> that's true. >> that resonated with people.
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marco was coming back, you know, w kept us safe. but you know, but there was also that the country was in a deep recession and things weren't so great at the end of the bush administration. and th was a reminder of how-- the last bush administtion. >> this is also a good example of the media genius of donald trump, whether it's intentional or just natural. he has inserted himself into all of the gorge w bush stories that are now going to take place in south carolina on the campaign trail because jeb is going to have his brother george with him and all the reporters are going to be asking, well hey, you know, the world trade center did that. that is what done all trump point osut. the weapons of mass destruction story want quite true, donald trump will be in all of those stories. it won't make a difference because there is the anti-trump on the highway, the anti-cruz and then everyone else. we will see how it plays out.
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because he's a former law court, rehnquist, former soilsitier general. >> whom everyone but kasich called a liar last night. >> he knows how to play the game. he's also on the juddishary committee now that we have lost justice scalia, and he will be there among the 18 making his case as if he is arguing for the u.s. supreme court which is the people of the united states. >> and i just saw scalia shall-- i mean i sawed cruz on this week with george stephanopoulos this morning and he said again, as i guess they are all saying, all the presidential candidates, we are not going to confirm whoever, whomever presint obama nominates to the supreme court. >> you know,is-- in the seconds, in the minutes after the news broke that scalia had died, ted cruz tweeted out saying, you know, we lost a good man. and we, you know, the next president should pick his replacement. i mean he didn't even-- before you get into the spoils, before
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curtains, y don't you first was. but we saw his temperment and yes, now we hear he is going to filibuster and-- drag it on. >> mitch mcconnell eventually it. i think in the short term the politics of it i apogize because i'm among those who went right to the politics. i think in the sho term they benefit democrats more. especially if president obama nominates a minority, specifically hispanic, africacaamerican. >> there cobe. >> i'm just talking about-- i'm talking about the raw xs and os, brock elling and taxing and running an election, if they are seen ass blocking a qualified minorities who had a say and major say in twiwi states like florida, those minorities more than likely will come out and be motivated by that, presuming the democrats do it right and that can make a difference potential lein an election in a state like florida, a a florida can make a difference in a presidential race across the nation.
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this world of picking judges, it whether locally by the state or federally. this is a very seminal moment for the american people to pay attention.the highest office is not the president, it is the citizen of the united states. anan picking a nomination, the constitution saying, article 2-rbgs the president has the power, presidential power to under advice-- on the advice and consent of theenate, takes a majority but the person has to go through the nomination process. so it has to happen, at least the most time that itt has taken is over 1125 days. >> especially nowow with a split court. what happens now-- 115 days. >> w wt is the big death penalty. >> climate change say big thing. >> abortion rights. >> affirmative action. >> it defaults to whatever the lower court ruling was prior to it getting to the supreme court. so presidede obama's climate change policy actually might be able to make it through, that is if it becomes a 4-4 tie at the supreme court. so. >> which it was here.
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>> what do you mean it was here. >> scalia, when they suspended his climate change action plan it was 5-4, without scalia, it's 4-4. >> and now it is nono going to be ruled on in the short term until they do. but to marlon's point we are now going to have a presidential race where the supreme court might just be a front and center issue. and might. >> that is a good thing. >> more than likely will. >> a a most of those court appeal, district court of appeals lean to the left, actually. so apportionment, abortion rights, unionization, all those other key issues, and you remember, also as well, what about the cases that scalia was deciding on. those cases may have to also reargue them because they don't want to deal with, if in fact they have a split. >> do you know some of those offhand. >> all of the big issues, apportionment, regards to districting, abortion rights, obamacare, affordable care act, executive orders, immigration, huge issues in this session.
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of time, i do want to bring up the bill which i think kind of courage usually that representative curbelo has proposed that is going to take, would take away some of the benefits from cubany grants that they have enjoyed. i mean they get medicaid, food stamps, work permits, they are admitted in way that no other country is allowed to do. i mean i think that it shows some gutsiness on his part. >> you know, we at the sun sentinel editorial board we critical of him for taking a good while to make it happen. but in the end he did come out withegislation. he has gotten sponsors. so there is a chance something might happen. because cuban immigrants are really immigrants more than anything. they're coming here because things are bad back there. it's not about that they are politically percent cuted. yet they get here and they get all of this largesse, that is not given to anyone else.
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>> and your paper has done a >> all right. we are out of time, thank you all for coming in. happy valentine's day. may you all enjoy it. >> thank you. and up next, what does snow white, iowa and new hampshire have that florida may not? besides the snow at lex time,
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next. >> good afternoon, south florida. it's nice out there, temperatures already hitting those low 70s all across-the-board down to key west, we do have a breezy east northeast wind, 15 to 20 miles per hour bringing in these clouds, but these are fair weather clouds so no rain associated with this by tomorrow. it will be warm and cloudy as well. we'll have a better chance for showers on tuesday, highs tomorrow 78 degrees and then tuesday hitting a high of 81 with a few showers around. glenna. >> jennifer, thanks. this week the campaign trail veered south and west to north carolina and nevada. bigger, more diverse states with higher stakes for some of the candidates but as we saw in the last few weeks, relatively small, snowy white iowa and new hampshire have something that bigger, bader states do not. generally speakg, of course. a serious engagement with democracy. come election time there people on the streets, in restaurants, in each other's living rooms,
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issues and candidates even right up to casting theirvote. they are in to the issues from health car to financials, to national security. they have really pointed questions to ask thehe candidates becaus of their position at the start of the election season, they get the candidates attention and they run with it he had show up to events. they mick sure they get face time and they are evaluating responses in realtime. these voters want authenticity, not staged and s@ripted candidates and they form opinions with research and a refreshing kind of open mindedness am we met people who had narrowed their choices to two or threeandidates fromdifferent parties. the best part of our time in the frozen north, a noticeable absence of the mall is and venom we see so much between parties and both parties faithful. understanding and compromise rather than anger and distrust, why is that so important, because a democracy rlly works
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balance ofonservative and progressive policies. so what if we had a caucu in florida, what a circus that withinin maybe in a goo way. what do you think? we invite to you weigh in on any topic you l le. right? >> well, we do. and we will respond to you on e-mail, facebook, twitter, any of these addresses. we are easy to find, like to talk to you and remember, stay informed, get involved, and have a lovely valentine's day. >> thank you. >> and you too. >> thank you, same to you. beautiful sunday, bye. (donkey sound) (elephant sound) there's a big difference between making noise, (tapping soundnd and making sense. (elephant sound) (donkey sound)
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