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islamic state. the u.s. government calls it isil. reporters tend to call it isis for the islamic state in iraq and syria. but whatever the name, it has the manpower, means and ruthlessness to attack the u.s. the man who is supposed to stop that attack is john brennan, the director of the c.i.a. and tonight, in a rare interview, we talk to brennan about a world of trouble and we start with the most pressing danger. is isis coming here? >> john brennan: i think isil does want to eventually find it's, it's mark here. >> pelley: you're expecting an attack in the united states? >> brennan: i'm expecting them to try to put in place-- the operatives, the material or whatever else that they need to do or to incite people to carry out these attacks-- clearly. so i believe that their attempts are inevitable. i don't think their successes necessarily are. >> pelley: can you explain to the folks watching this
to kill us? how does attacking the united states further their interests? >> brennan: i think they're trying to provoke a clash between the west and the muslim world, or the world that they are in as a way to gain more adherents. because what they are claiming is that the united states is trying to tar thcotrieh is fromelleeld atri tre
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to operate in areas that are denied to us. we find a way to have our eyes and ears there so that we can inform our policy makers. i do think though that this is going to be more and more a feature of the future. and we here at c.i.a. are looking at how we need to enhance our expeditionary capabilities and activities because we need to be on the front lines. >> pelley: well do you imagine setting up c.i.a. bases, covert bases in many of these countries? >> brennan: i see c.i.a. needing to have the presence as well as a-- an ability to collect intelligence and interact with the locals. and we are in fact doing that in a number of those areas. >> pelley: who around here has the authority to okay a drone strike? >> brennan: i know there are a lot of reports about the c.i.a.'s role and involvement on that. and i think as you can understand i'm not going to address any of those reports about c.i.a.'s covert action activities. >> pelley: do you have to accept
making a decision about using these weapons? do you have to say, "there are likely to be civilians killed here but it's worth it?" >> brennan: well, you know in war there is what's called the law of armed conflict that allows for proportional collateral, collateral being civilian deaths. i must tell you that the u.s. military and the u.s. government as a whole does an exceptionally, exceptionally strong job of minimizing to the greatest extent possible any type of collateral damage. >> pelley: but it isn't necessarily a shooting war that worries brennan most. his c.i.a. is facing a new front in cyber. and to focus on it he set up the agency's first new directorate in more than 50 years. >> brennan: that cyber environment can pose a very, very serious and significant attack vector for our adversaries if they want to take down our infrastructure, if they
transportation systems, if they want to do great damage to our financial networks. there are safeguards being put in place. but that cyber environment is one that really is the thing that keeps me up at night. >> pelley: do other countries have the capability of turning the lights off in the united states? >> brennan: having the capability but then also having the intent are two different things. i think fortunately right now those who may have the capability do not have the intent. those who may have the intent right now i believe do not have the capability. because if they had the capability they would deploy and employ those tools. >> pelley: a few months ago your personal e-mails were hacked. what did you learn from that, director? >> brennan: it shows that there are ways that individuals can get into the personal emails of anybody. >> pelley: is privacy dead? >> brennan: no. no. privacy should never be dead. >> pelley: yeah, i know it shouldn't be. but is it, in fact, with these
state actors, with all the things that we've learned about government snooping all around the world, isn't it effectively dead? >> brennan: you know, it's interesting that people always point to the government or others, in terms of the invasion of privacy. but-- >> pelley: any government? >> brennan: yeah, but individuals are liberally giving up their privacy, you know, sometimes wittingly and sometimes unwittingly as they give information to companies or to sales reps. or they go out on facebook or the various social media. they don't realize though that they are then making themselves vulnerable to exploitation. >> pelley: when your secure phone rings in the middle of the night, what's your first thought? >> brennan: it's usually one of two things. one, its bad news that something tragic has happened to a c.i.a officer or to u.s. personnel. or there's been a terrorist attack somewhere of-- of significance. and so when i reach for the
prayer that it's not that. the other, other option is that i'm being asked to make a decision in the middle of the night on something that may have life and death implications. could be something related to a covert action program. >> pelley: have officers died on your watch? >> brennan: yes. yes. not long after i came to the agency we had an officer, a former army ranger, went back out to afghanistan. in the middle of the night he heard a-- an explosion at the compound next to his where his afghan compatriots were sleeping. he grabbed his gear, he went over there. another explosion took place. rather than taking cover he went right to the middle of the fight and started to drag his wounded afghan partners out of harm's way. he was hit twice. continued to fire, then as he was continuing to protect his
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>> steve kroft: as everyone knows, big-time sports have become big business, and most of the organizations that run them operate with little or no oversight from government or independent entities. occasionally issues arise like concussions in football, and doping in baseball that demand public scrutiny, but there has never been a scaalikth one enveloping fifa-- the most powerful sporting organization in the world. its purpose is to regulate and promote the most popular sport in the world: international football, or soccer as we call it in the united states. but according to the u.s. justice department, it has been operating as an organized crime syndicate for the past 24 years. and some of those alleged crimes like bribery and money laundering were planned and carried out here in the united states. dozens of top fifa officials past and present are under
is still in its early stages. in a few weeks hundreds of fifa officials from around the world will descend on zurich for a special meeting: one of the mostinbest. its ranks have been thinned. its president, sepp blatter suspended; it's general secretary fired and five currentmm el decide to skip the event, given what happened the last time they got together in may. authorities swooped in and made arrests here and on three different continents, acting at the behest of the u.s. justice department and attorney general loretta lynch. >> loretta lynch: they were expected to uphold the rules that keep soccer honest, and to protect the integrity of the game. instead, they corrupted the business of worldwide soccer to serve their interests and to
>> kroft: fifa's main job is to organize and run the biggest sporting event on earth, the world cup, a month-long tournament of national teams that generates billions and billions of dollars and crowns a world champion every four years. it's like the olympics, only bigger. the honor of hosting the games can alter a nation's fortunes and the competition is intense. it's fifa's executive committee that decides where the world cup will be held and how the billions will be divided. according to the indictment that's where the corruption comes in. how did the racketeering enterprise work? >> john buretta: the allegations are that it was all about selection. choosing where events would be held. choosing who got the rights to broadcast. it was those key choices which were very lucrative to the recipients that created the power here. >> kroft: john buretta used to run the organized crime section
the eastern district of new york, with a specialty in the mafia. >> who's vinnie gorgeous? >> kroft: he was used to names like, genovese and gambino and had never heard of fifa until the case ended up on his desk. but he knew how the game was played. pay me. you want this? you gotta pay me. >> buretta: those are definitely the allegations. >> kroft: you gotta pay me $10 million in one case. >> buretta: there were many millions in many instances alleged not just for low-level tournaments. but the world cup itself. >> kroft: so you're talking about shakedowns? >> buretta: absolutely. >> kroft: according to the indictment that $10 million bribe was paid by the government of south africa to help secure the 2010 world cup.na as a charitable contribution ended up in a bank account controlled by former fifa vice president jack warner, a trinidian who then ran the north caribbean confederation of fifa, which was headquartered in new york.
extradition to the u.s. >> jack warner: keep the faith, man. you gotta keep the faith. >> kroft: warner is one of 25 fifa officials who have been named in the indictments. as for the bribes, well there are too many of them to go into here. the biggest was $150 million paid by a sports marketing firm for contracts to sell broadcasting rights. then there were the smaller tips: a stack of envelopes each filled with $40,000 in cash from an executive committee member from qatar who was buying votes in a fifa election. qatar has a very high profile at fifa right now. and it's a source of some embarrassment. >> sepp blatter: the 2022 fifa world cup is... qatar. >> kroft: the qataris were happy, but most people thought it an odd choice-- one that brought fifa unwanted attention and made it the butt of international jokes. >> john oliver: there are now
executives took bribes to put the world cup in qatar, and i hope that's true. because otherwise it makes literally no sense. >> kroft: its not just that temperatures routinely top 120 degrees in the summer or that qatar has a dismal human rights record. the tiny country has no soccer tradition, and it would seem very few fans. games there are often played in empty stadiums. fifa also ignored its own internal security report which warned of a high risk for terrorism. maybe the executive committee was impressed with this dazzling, multi-media virtual world cup would look like in 2022. right now, this is all just a mirage. most people who follow international soccer aren't surprised by all this. the chicanery at fifa has been an open secret in europe largely
jennings, a grizzled freelance reporter who had been harping about it for more than a decade. >> andrew jennings: all we know is, it's the biggest scandal ever in world sport. there's nothing like it. >> kroft: how did you get into this? i mean were you a-- were you a soccer fan? >> jennings: definitely not. ( laughs ) i mean-- good luck to people who enjoy it, but i'm a crime reporter. i took one look at fifa and, right, that's it. it's there. and i'd no doubts about it. >> kroft: jennings, who had broken some big stories exposing corruption at the international olympic committee, was asked by a sports editor to take a look at fifa. he couldn't believe his luck. >> jennings: i did start thinking, "there's a few bad apples. oh, goodness me, here's a few more. my goodness, who isn't? >> kroft: so, bribery was just standard operating procedures at all level of fifa? >> jennings: well, there does come a time that you don't really get upset anymore, just another bribe. because there's so many. in fact, it's-- it's a way of operating. it's an m.o. it's how they'd run the
>> kroft: when he began asking rude questions at fifa news conferences a dozen years ago, he was ostracized and exiled to the parking lot. for years, his colleagues in the sporting press considered him a gadfly, but he turned out to be right, and eventually people started paying attention. he landed a gig with the bbc launching kamikaze attacks on the likes of fifa president sepp blatter. >> jennings: do you know which football officials took bribes from the i.s.l. marketing company? >> blatter: i don't speak about that. >> kroft: and the aforementioned fifa vice president jack warner... >> jennings: this is a polite inquiry. >> warner: if i could have spit on you, i would have spat on you. >> jennings: if you could spit on me you would spit on me? >> kroft: jennings finally received his vindication in 2009 when the fbi asked for his help and invited him to london to meet with their agents. >> jennings: so i shuttled down to london and went into the room.
perfect manners. and business cards that says they did organized crime. and at that point, we were in. >> kroft: jennings gave the fbi his file on chuck blazer, the only american on fifa's executive committee, who lived and worked out of trump tower. blazer too was a colorful character: 400 pounds of fun. he kept a pet parrot, traveled on private jets with world leaders; dined at the finest restaurants, and over a seven- year period, ran up $29 million in charges on his black american express card. he documented a lot of this on his personal blog, and seemed to have been having such a good time he forgot to pay his taxes, which turned out to be a big mistake for blazer and fifa. >> michael hershman: in my judgment, this indictment would not have happened without chuck blazer. >> kroft: michael hershman, has spent most of his career doing
chuck blazer. he says when the fbi arrested him, it immediately offered a deal: go to jail for tax evasion, or cooperate and wear a wire. >> kroft: and he chose the latter? >> hershman: he chose the latter. >> kroft: he had a keychain of some kind. >> hershman: he had a keychain that was a microphone, as well as a keychain. >> kroft: hershman spent two years working inside fifa after being appointed to a governance committee charged with reforming the organization in the midst of all the scandals. >> hershman: i assumed that we would be able to take this organization and help turn it around, but i was dissuaded from that notion fairly early on. >> kroft: by whom? >> hershman: well, there was a lot of push back from the president, sepp blatter, and the executive committee members, many of whom were dinosaurs and didn't want to see the system change. >> kroft: he says there was a culture of corruption at fifa,
outsiders. they saw themselves as diplomats, entitled to financial gratuities and expensive gifts. >> kroft: they wanted tribute? >> hershman: they wanted tribute. they were treated like kings, if you will. >> kroft: did you get any sense of that there was any fear or concern about somebody prosecuting them? >> hershman: none, whatsoever. >> kroft: and with good reason. it's no accident that the world's most powerful sports organization is headquartered here in zurich. it's the banking capital of switzerland, a country whose economy is based on the principles of corporate privacy, and banking secrecy. and no one took more advantage of that than fifa. roland buchel, a member of the swiss national legislature, says until very recently, fifa received about as much government scrutiny as a yodeling club. the corruption's been no secret. people have been talking about it. and there have been allegations why didn't the swiss government
>> roland buchel: well, there was a problem, a problem of laws. corruption at this time it was-- it was just not a crime. >> kroft: you're saying it was all right to bribe people? >> buchel: of course it wasn't all right, but it was not a crime. this money was even tax deductible. the money they paid in bribes was tax deductible. that's-- that's just-- it's not- - it's not good. >> kroft: it was not only legal, it was tax deductible? >> buchel: yes. >> kroft: do you think it's tarnished the reputation of switzerland at all? >> buchel: yes, of course. absolutely. >> kroft: buchel has since managed to push through legislation making all forms of bribery illegal, and the swiss attorney general has finally begun his own criminal investigation into president sepp blatter and the qatar world cup. fifa's says it's cooperating with the investigation and it's position is that its a victim in all this: that it's a legitimate, law-abiding organization that's been used by unscrupulous individuals on the executive committee, and that justice should be allowed to run its course. >> jerome champagne: let's finish investigation and after
i have no problem with that. >> kroft: jerome champagne, a fifa defender, was one of sepp blatter's closest advisors for a decade and is running in the upcoming elections to replace him as president. i mean, it's been said that you were his eyes and ears. >> champagne: uh-huh. >> kroft: is that accurate? >> champagne: sometime his mouth also. >> kroft: sometimes his mouth. eyes, ears and mouth. not the nose? did you-- >> champagne: no. >> kroft: did you-- didn't sniff anything out? mr. blatter-- >> champagne: i was-- >> kroft: didn't sniff anything out that anything was wrong-- >> champagne: i tell you, i was not involved in financial aspects. >> kroft: it-- if sepp blatter were running for reelection would you support him? >> champagne: i tell you, he would be reelected. >> kroft: he would be reelected? >> champagne: yes. >> kroft: champagne's opponents include a jordanian prince, a sheikh from bahrain, a wealthy south african businessman and a european soccer official. all of them are preaching reform to a fifa membership that has long resisted it. i mean, fifa seems to be saying, "okay, we've got this under control. you know, we're-- we're changing.
serious-- >> kroft: "and blatter's gone"-- >> jennings: you can't be serious. >> kroft: no, i'm-- i'm-- i'm jus-- this is what they're saying? >> jennings: they haven't-- done anything. they've nothing to reform themselves. >> kroft: so, you think it's going to be business as usual? >> jennings: well, it'll be an attempt, because they know nothing else. >> kroft: for now, all the major decisions at the world's most powerful sports organization are being handled by fifa's legal department in consultation with a big u.s. law firm and a p.r. outfit from washington. all of our requests for on- camera interviews were declined. >> and now a cbs sports update brought to you by the lincoln motor company. at the at&t pebble beach pro-am. vontae already -- vaughn taylor beat phil mickelson by one, his third career win and his first in 11 years. in college basketball, michigan
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