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woman: it's rare that an undergraduate criminology class gets guest speakers of this caliber. but today we're specially fortunate. i'd like to welcome an old friend, esteemed author and fbi agent david rossi, and his team, the behavioral analysis unit. now, they've agreed to spend an hour of their valuae time talking about what they do and how they do it. so let's make them feel welcome. [applause] thank you, dr. grant. now, when she said i was an old friend, she was just referring to the fact
[laughter] now, as the good professor said, i am supervisory special agent rossi. these are ssas jareau, prentiss, hotchner, and morgan. this is dr. spencer reid. and on keyboards today we have our technical analyst ms. penelope garcia. hi. now, in simple terms, at the bau we use behavioral science, research, casework, and training to hunt down monsters. rapists, terrorists, pedophiles, and our specialty, serial killers. does anybody here know exactly what a serial killer is? someone who's committed more than one murder. that's very good. by statute, 3 is the magic number. and it's actually more qualitative than quantitative for us. and today we're going to talk about how some serial killers get made.
then you can figure out a y to catch them. garcia. my liege. ok, this is rachel moore, a 17-year-old runaway from spokane, washington. now, she grew up poor and in a broken home. her mom left her dad because he liked to drink and beat on her. and this is tina dyson, a 19-year-old college student from seattle. rossi: now, she wa a trust fund kid, and she got straight as and came from a loving family. now, these two girls couldn't be any more different. but the one thing that they had in common is they both crossed paths with the most prolific serial killer the bau has ever seen. one thing you should understand is that no two killers are the same. they each occupy their own point on the behavioral spectrum. genetics, brain chemistry, psychology, and environment are all factors. but we believe that this particular killer grew up in an enviroent so adverse that he never had a chance.
prentiss: endured years of cruel and abject physical abuse. hotch: as well as horribly profound psychological abuse. no. no! morgan: when he wasn't being ignored, he was being humiliated. let me in! let me in! let me in! please! now let me be clear. most abused kids do not turn into killers. not even all psychopaths become killers. but this particular unknown subject, or unsub, suffered extreme abuse, and it has everything to do with why he does what he does. now, these are some of his victims. he kidnapped them, he restrained them, and he starved them for days. then he killed them by mutilating their reproductive organs. right now we know there are at least 40 of them. but we believe that he may eventually claim over 100 victims. now, we chose this case for today
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rossi: the philosopher voltaire wrote, o the living we owe respect, but to the dead we owe only the truth." the dead are the cornerstone of every homicide investigation. victims give us a look into the killer's mind. if you want to know about a hunter, study his prey. ok, so the unsub's first victims were discovered two weeks apart in 1992 in seattle. the first victim that was found was rachel moore. she was the runaway. her body had been thrown into a dumpster in an alley. the medical examiner said that she was very malnourished and really dehydrated. jj: the ligature marks on her wrists and ankles made it apparent that she'd been restrained for days. he held her, but he didn't feed her. so she's weak. it's his sadistic way to subdue her.
she put up a hell of a fight. that a girl. 53 stab wounds to the lower abdomen and genitals. the damage made it impossible to determine if there was any sexual assault. that might be a forensic countermeasure. here's my report. stay as long as you need. her mother should be here in an hour. a hell of a way to see her after 2 years. prentiss: 53 stab wounds. that's a lot of work. does anyone want to tell me what they think that means? hatred? frustration. he's angry. you're all correct. it's called overkill. typically it means the murder was personal somehow. that, or the unsub is psychotic and/or prone to violent outbursts. [cell phone rings] the overkill may also show his inexperience. this was probably his first kill, and he was feeling his way through it, working out his m.o. but there's a lot about rachel that tells us about the unsub.
male student: what makes you think that? she lived in a shelter and had a part-time job, so she was a street kid, but not necessarily the reckless type. she wouldn't just go off with anyone. yeah, warden, it's rossi. what? riot? w-w-w-wait. look, he's not gonna give me a rain check. i have to see him today. so the unsub maybe lured her with a ruse or he blitz attacked her, he took her by surprise. now, either one of these would be easier if you were young. you can tell all that from just one victim? i'd say it was two weeks later when we found the second victim that we started to piece that together. tina dyson was home for the summer when she disappeared. her body was found in a shallow grave just outside of seattle. but it was actually her abduction site that gave us the answers we needed. [laughing] morgan: tina and two of her friends had fake i.d.s and they decided to go to a local grunge bar. prentiss: but they drank too much and tina got sick, so while one friend was inside dancing,
it's all right. come on. [retching] i'm gonna go get janice, ok? we're going home. ohh...good, yeah. [moaning] ohh...ohh... man: you ok? yeah. jeez, what are you, a ninja? where'd you come from? so his anger is obviously directed at women. yes, but the real question is why, and the why is what always leads us to the who. i need to talk to you. jj: he was attacking their genitals and reproductive organs. why? was he impotent and hates the thing that he can't have? did his wife or girlfriend abort a child? it's a federal prison, dave. we can't just call them up and tell them what to do.
i've got to see him today, aaron. you know that. the possibilities are endless. and the unsub was figuring it all out for himself, too. we know that because he was evolving. he started with a runaway, a victim with a high-risk lifestyle. he probably knew that her abduction would go unreported. jj: then he upped his game and grabbed a college girl, which meant more risk for himself. reid: he dumped his first victim rachel in an alley, but he took the time to bury tina, which suggests he felt more connected to her and perhaps he even felt remorse. did you ever catch this guy? uh, what's your name, young man? david zimmerman. don't interrupt, zimmerman. [laughter] now, we, uh, we knew we needed to warn the public, so we contacted the media, papers, local news. that was back before the internet exploded. and then, as will happen from time to time, the case went completely cold. we didn't hear from him again until 1997.
same m.o. evidently our guy. excuse me, i'm looking for the case agent. that would be me. agent rossi, i'm agent hotchner, seattle division. we spoke on the phone. uh, i inherited the case from agent bidwell. thanks for coming so quickly. yeah, i hopped the first flight from dulles. came straight from the airport. with bad food. that's a long trip. let me show you what we found. a jogger discovered the first body dumped in the bushes about 30 yards over the road here. the m.e. said that she'd been there almost a month. any critters get to her? we had to use dental records to identify her. watch your step. so we did a search of the aa and we discovered the second body in this shallow grave. she'd been here less than a week. so, he dumped the first one and buried the second. just like he did in '92. the first victim-- was she a runaway? 25-year-old prostitute and crack addict. the second? a 27-year-old mother of two.
not just mangled. he's evolving. sounds like he's moving more toward ritual. and apparently he's not locked into an age preference. the victims seem to be aging along with him. what about stomach contents? the victims were dehydrated and hadn't eaten in days. my guess is he hasn't been back in seate in a while. what makes you say that? he needs someplace private to hold them. he might live close. dumping a body in a public park is risky. it tells me that he's comfortable, ttled in. he might even have chosen this spot to be able to come back and relive the kills. you've done your homework, agent. 5 years is a long time to be dormant. he wasn't dormant. a killer that vicious is like a drug addict that needs a fix. hotch: we were fairly certain that he had kept on killing. we just hadn't found the bodies yet. rossi: now, we knew that back in '92 when the media went wide with the story, our unsub got spooked and he disappeared.
meaning that if we could control the spread of information, we might be able to keep the unsub from fleeing again. but back then the bau was still young. we didn't have press liaisons or technical analysts. hotch: and by the time we contacted the media, the story had already broken. tv narrator: a symbol of the american west-- a lone coyote hunts for prey. agent rossi, are you making any progress in the investigation? quite a bit, yes. so do you have any solid leads? several. agent rossi, can you confirm the rumors that the womb raider disembowels his victims? excuse me? can you confirms the rumors that the womb-- oh, ll confirm something for you. womb raider is a name that you gave him. i won't orify him. i call him a murderer. then exactly how is he killing them? only concern is capturing him and bringing closure to the families of the victims. no further questions.
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"womb raider." i hoped the nickname would embolden him. thought maybe he would escalate and trip on his own hubr. but, um, that didn't happen. unfortunately, he vanished just like he'd done before and the trail went cold again. we did everything we could. we had every division up and down the west coast scouring missing person reports. a lot of possibilities, but no clear hits. in the meantime, agent rossi retired, but the bau grew. we trained morprofilers, hired tech analysts, press liaisons, and we even got our own resident genius. thank you. thank you. [laughter] agent rossi, why did you retire? that's a good question. well, the simple answer is i needed a change. i was working on my third divorce, and... third? yes, zimmerman, my third.
so i needed a break, and i figured writing books might help give me some peace of mind. did it? give you peace of mind? for a time, yes. in 2005, we got another hit on the unsub, this time in los angeles. we knew it was him because of his signature. sorry, what's a signature? it's a rare combination of m.o. and ritual that allows us to link cases over time and geographic distances. her name was lana cooper. she was a 33-year-old prostitute. her body was found by a boy walking his dog in griffith park. ligature marks on her wrists and ankles. she was restrained. and he gave her a complete hysterectomy. the uterus, ovaries, fallopian tubes, all removed. a little crude, but he cut all the right ligaments. he knew what he was doing. what about her throat? that was done postmortem. he cut out her vocal cords. might be a symbolic way of keeping her silent. so she was alive when he performed the hysterectomy. anything in her stomach? dry as a bone. she hadn't eaten in days. so he starved her, too.
this probably isn't his first victim. i wonder if we should be looking at doctors and medical students. it's definitely not his first victim. i don't think he's a doctor or a medical student. no. calling gideon? [cell phone ringing] the first call i made was to agent rossi. i knew he was writing his book, but i didn't want to start to build a profile without him. a profile is personality and identifying characteristics of the unsub which helps the investigator narrow down the suspect pool. basically it's a behavioral description of the type of person we think the unsub might be. it goes a little like this-- we were looking for a white male in his early to mid-30s. hotch: we think he was antisocial and had low self-esteem, so he probably kept to himself. prentiss: but he needed money, so he was most likely a day laborer, a janitor, maybe a handyman. anything menial and temporary. morgan: he was personable enough to get a job wherever he went, but unassuming enough not to stick out. he held and restrained his victims for days, so he would need a contained space to do that.
most likely a truck or a van. jj: d when he was on the move and not settled, he probably lived out of that vehicle. hotch: we knew he always started with a victim who lived a high-risk lifestyle, like a prostitute or a runaway. and then he moved on to a victim with a low-risk lifestyle. jj: so we knew his next kill would be something of a soccer mom in her 30s. i'm sorry, but what exactly was he doing with the organs he was removing? we didn't know. it could have been some sort of fetish. russian serial killer andrei chikatilo actually ate the uterus of one of his victims. oh, my god, eew. this focus on reproductive organs could also indicate a deep-seated sense of self-loathing. he might have hated the fact that he was born. or he had some sort of traumatic life-changing event associated with birth. and he could have hated his own mother. the strained mother-child relationship is a hallmark for many killers. that doesn't make any sense. i hate myself or i hate my mother, so i kill women by ripping out their wombs?
one man's logic is another man's crazy. what's the deal with the vocal cords? that was something new. we thought it might have been symbolic of his own silence. he was raised to believe he was worthless and unwanted, so essentially he never had his own voice. his victims became surrogates for his rage and a means by which to exact his revenge. [woman whimpering] we stayed in l.a. for 6 weeks and worked the case. and then it went cold, again. no low-risk soccer mom turned up, no soccer moms went missing. then our resources were exhausted, we had other cases, so we were forced to leave. but i rented a house in the hollywood hills and decided to finish my book out there. i figured if i was close i could lend a hand if something happened.
now, in the past he packed up and moved when the story broke and we got too close. but this time the media was quiet. the victim was a hooker nobody cared about. so, what drove him under? it would be 4 years before we got another break. not too long after, i came out of retirement. what? rochelle jenkins, a 40-year-old prostitute was found dumped in an alley in seattle. she was given a complete hysterectomy. her cal cords were cut out, too. he's back where he got started. he'll be on the hunt for a low-risk victim in her 40s next. [shs] i wonder what brought him home. it's a long trip. we should get going. rossi: but this time we were ready for him. we wanted to use the press to our advantage. so we came up with what's called a targeted media strategy. reporter: agent, is it true you have a suspect in custody?
second reporter: can you tell us how you apprehended him? with good police wor especially from the seattle p.d. and the washington state patrol. ist true that the killer's been on the loose since the early nineties? that remains to be seen, but we do believe we can link him to several murders. thank you. now, if you'll excuse us, we've got work to do so you did catch him. no. but we wanted him to think we caught the wrong guy. why? to give him a false sense of security. if he thinks we messed up, then maybe he relaxes and makes a mistake. that, or he gets angry because he thinks someone else is stealing his thunder. either way, the aim of the strategy is the throw the killer off course. otherwise, all we're doing is reacting to him, and we needed him to react to us. lord knows i love him, but here's to a night without him. husbands, too. to the kids. ok, fine, have it your way. we're too old for this. speak for yourself. ok, ladies, bottoms up, lick, drink, suck. yeah?
whoo-hoo! ha ha! she's whoo-hooing, you know we're in for a long night. [laughing] we need some more water. we should get other round. [laughing] you're insane. [indistinct chatter] [laughing] play date tomorrow? meet me at the park? can't. soccer game and bihday party. sunday? ok. sure. you all right to drive? that drink was what, two hours and a big dinner ago. i'm fine. go. are you sure? bye, sweetie. bye, girls. i'll talk to you soon, ok? ok. s. good night. hey, honey.i'm on the way home. how are the boys? [chuckles] oh, it was fun. everyone says hi. ok. love you, too. bye. [car alarm beeps]