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captioning funded by cbs good morning. it is friday, february 26th, 2016. welcome to "cbs this morning." marco rubio and ted cruz tear into donald trump in the final debate before super tuesday. could this be a turning point? a gunman storms a kansas factory, killing coworkers. victims describe the chaos as they tried to run from the bullets. and spike lee is in studio 57. we will talk about the oscars backlash and creating change in hollywood. we begin this morning with a look at today's "eye opener."
seen the guy pull up and hopped out with ak-47 and fired a few shots outside before he went in, and then ducked down and went into the building. >> a deadly shooting spree in kansas. >> law enforcement officials are calling this an act of workplace violence. it was a good debate if you like the roman coliseum. >> this guy is a joke artist and this guy is a liar. >> when with i was leading the fight against the gang of eight, where was donald? he was firing dennis rodman on "celebrity apprentice." >> do you know where we would be right now? >> no. i know you're embarrassed and you are too but keep fighting and keep swinging. swing for the fences. >> the whole time! >> a lot of fun up here tonight, i have to tell you. >> i'm a huge fan of privacy. >> james comey testified with a dispute with apple is the hardest question he has ever seen in government. >> our need for public safety and our need for privacy is
>> seaworld admits is spied on peta. >> dramatic images out of columbia as officers pull up on a gang of robbers and all captured on a officer's body cam. >> where are you going? hey! right now, we have got no stalls or collision! >> tom brady introducing the family's new dog fluffy. >> and all that matters. >> a good republican would defend ted cruz after tonight. that ain't happening. if you kill ted cruz on the floor of the senate and the trial is in the senate, nobody could convict you. >> on "cbs this morning." >> scott kelly is about to return to earth after spending an entire year in space. >> i could go another hundred days. i could go another year if i had to. >> then he saw donald trump's poll numbers and said, you know, i'm good up here. announcer: this portion of "cbs this morning" sponsored by toyota.
welcome to "cbs this morning." gayle king is off. vinita nair is here. welcome. the final republican debate before super tuesday was more like a heavyweight fight with marco rubio as the hard hitting underdog. >> your ties and the clothes you make are made in mexico and china so you're starting a trade war against your own ties. >> you wouldn't know anything about it because you're lousy. >> i don't know anything about bankrupt companies. >> what is your plan? >> that is the problem. what is your plan on health care? you don't have a plan. >> you lied about the policy sh workers. you lied 38 years ago. i guess there is statute of limitations on lies. >> cruz and rubio hit trump with one verbal attack after another. >> major garrett watched the candidates duke it out last
university of houston, the site of the debate. >> reporter: good morning. the tense republican debate answered this burning question -- what do you get when you combine political desperation with piles of research? donald trump was pummeled as never before as his republican rivals hoped against hope to slow his momentum. >> we are having a lot of fun up here tonight, i have to tell you. thank you. >> donald, donald, relaxed. >> go ahead. i'm relaxed. you're the basket case. go ahead, go ahead. don't get nervous. >> reporter: with the 34th president george h.w. bush looking on, rubio and cruz had verbal attacks on donald trump. >> if he has had not inherited millions of dollars, do you know where he would be right now? >> trump on immigration.
trump towers he will be using illegal immigration to do it. >> first of all, you're talking about the polls, i'm beating him awfully badly in the polls. >> but you're not beating hillary! >> if i can't beat her, you're really going to get killed, aren't you? >> reporter: on foreign policy, trump said the art of the deal might work in the middle east. real estate deal, donald. >> no, no, no. >> they are not a real estate deal. >> a deal is a deal. i learned a long time ago. >> are you dealing with terrorists? >> reporter: the most heated exchange delved into trump's plan to replace obamacare. >> we should have gotten rid of the lines so there is no competition. we have to get rid of the lines around the state. >> now he is repeating himself. >> no, i'm not repeating myself. no, no, no. i watched him repeat himself five times four weeks ago. >> you repeat yourself five
times and found his footing and landed haymakers. >> first of all, this guy is a joke artist and this guy is a liar. i know you're embarrassed and you are too but keep fighting, men. swing for the fences. >> reporter: in the aftermath of the shout matches trump said there was nothing new to learn. is there anything about your experience tonight that tells you it would be worth your time to brush up more on the substance of either entitlements, health care -- >> no. >> palestinians, any of those issues? >> i think i did great on every subject. >> reporter: one question that wasn't answered in the debate -- why hasn't trump released his personal tax returns? during the conversation, trump blamed an ongoing audit for ignoring their release. the first man who raised this issue, 2012 republican nominee mitt romney said that is no excuse. florida senator march he ko rubio is with us now from houston. senator, good morning. >> good morning. >> did someone hit the panic button last night? >> well, i don't know what
i can just tell thaw a con artist is about to take over the republican party xt conservative movement and we have to put a stop to it. look at the report you guys just did. donald trump had no answers last night on the issues of health care. if you listen to that report that led into this the media is pumping him up as some sort of unstoppable force. donald trump is consistently fighting for the working people he says and he has a stick to working people for 35 years. if any other candidate in this race had his record there will be nonstop reporting on it, but, unfortunately he is pumped up because many the in the media with a buy oos know he is easy to beat in the general election. we will put a stop to it now and no way we will allow a con artist to take over the conservative movement and donald trump is a con art i- >> what do you think a trump government would look like, senator? >> it would be chaos. no one knows but it would look probably like the positions he has held for all of these years. on many of these issues, he is wholly unprepared to be
he refuses to answer questions on any specific public policy. he has no plan for health care, for example. they asked him about the debt. he claimed he is going to cut the debt by cutting fraud and abuse and everyone acknowledges and he didn't get any follow-up and no press on that and no enobody pressed on him after that and i tried to get the moderators to ask him about that. this is the most important job on the planet and we are about to turn over the conservative movement to a person who has no ideas of any substance on the important issues. the nuclear code of the united states to an erratic individual and the conservative movement -- a career sticking it to working people. >> please let us get a few more questions in. >> we want to ask you specifically about a meeting that cnn is reporting this morning. that your campaign manager met with top donors behind closed doors and the possibility of a contested convention in order to earn the nomination to get the nomination was discussed. is that something you're thinking about? >> no. but the truth is that it is possible that no one gains the
if you look at the way it's going now, no one may have that number of delegates and that in and of itself could trigger a convention after the first round delegates are free to vote whomever they want and i prefer that not to be the case and much rather have someone win the nomination in this process but not a con artist like donald trump. >> you've said that a number of times, con artist like donald trump. you've been on the stage with him throughout this campaign season. you were very different last night and much more combative than i have ever seen you. >> well, because it's a narrower race, number one. number two, i acknowledge we are an underdog. >> are you acknowledging that >> no. well, first of all, i would prefer not to get into a fight with other republicans but i would much more prefer not to turn over the party to a con artist like donald trump and last night is the last debate before super tuesday and i'm asking everyone watching tonight if you're a republican and you don't want your party taken over by a con artist like donald
marco rubio.com and join us to put an end to this allow lunacy. >> a new poll shows that donald trump is still ahead by double digits. that is why i asked that question about the panic button. it appears that donald trump is >> yeah. well, if you want to base that on one poll, that's fine. we have our own polls and other public polls show that is not the case. we will win florida. i know our state very well and it is not voting for someone like donald trump. i will acknowledge there are some people watching this broadcast are intrigued and think he is a straight-talker and fights for the little guy but donald trump has spent 40 years sticking it to the little guy or longer. every time -- >> senator. >> one of his businesses fail, you know who didn't get paid? the little guy who was working for him. >> we invite you to come to new york to the table, senator. thank you for this morning. >> thank you. thank you. >> joining us is "face the nation" moderator and political news director of cbs john
>> good morning, charlie. >> reporter: help us understand what is going on in the republican party. are they in a moment of panic as norah suggested because it looks like trump is going and marching right to the nomination? >> sure. last night was the best venue for somebody like marco rubio to take him on. you're not going to win a twitter war with donald trump. the debate venue is one in which rubio could have shown why a trump presidency could be dangerous and he had the challenges facing america. when you get into rah shout a shouting bhach donald trump you're playing on trump's turf. the talking points you heard from the senator are ones he didn't deliver last night and the ones he probably would have preferred to delivered but he got into that shouting match with him and see if that does anything for voters. >> john, do that math for us. as we look towards tuesday night, we will all be here together on cbs looking at those results. how close is trump to capturing this nomination? what will we see on tuesday
what will we know? >> there is a dealt question and momentum question. on tuesday night, 11 states. texas is a big one we will be watching that to see how cruz does, can he do well in his own state. but donald trump, if he wins all of the rest of the states, even if the other contestants get some delegates coming out of that, the question is what will the conversation be afterwards? if donald trump wins a whole bunch of states, let's say he wins ten of them, while the others may be amassing delegates, it will continue this kind of snowballing of the trump victories and the question then becomes will people join behind his campaign? there is some sign that is happening. >> certainly some questions we will be asking at this table should that happen. john dickerson, thank you. on sunday he will talk with senator ted cruz on "face the nation." democrats vote in south carolina tomorrow and recent polls give clinton and overwhelming lead. she attacked sanders gun control record yesterday near a church
>> we need to close the gun show loophole and the online loophole and what is called the charleston loophole. which my opponents supported, which means at the end of three days, whether the background check is done or not, you get the gun. that's what the killer here in charleston did. >> "the new york times" this morning calls for clinton to release transcripts of her paid wall street speeches. an editorial says voters have every right to know what clinton told these groups. on tuesday our entire political team will bring you super tuesday results in prime time. our special coverage begins at 10:00 p.m./9:00 central. a deadingdeading ing ing -- a deadly shooting spree from hesston, kansas. the chaos ended at a factor where the shooter worked. >> cbs news has identified the shooter as cedric ford. court records says he has past
reporter is outside of the excel industry plant in hesston. good morning, manuel bojorquez. >> reporter: police say all of the deaths occurred in the building behind me here at the excel plant where ford worked as a painter. his coworkers said he appeared normal when he arrived to work on thursday. investigators are now trying to figure out what triggered the shooting. within seconds after he fired, he was right to the building within five seconds. >> reporter: loved ones rushed to the excel industries plant in hesston, kansas, when they heard of the shooting. cedric ford, a 38-year-old employee of the factory, had opened fire on his coworkers. >> heard him yell something and that got our attention and turned around and popped out with an ak-47 it appeared like and fired a few shots outside before he went in and ducked down and went into the building. >> reporter: armed with an assault-style weapon, police say the rampage started on this road around 5:00 p.m. the shooter opened fire from his
ford continued north shooting another person in the leg and stealing their car. he then made his way to the excel factory where he shot one person in the parking lot and then another 14 inside the building before an officer gunned him down. >> the law enforcement here in hesston have responded right awayer and even though he took fire, he went inside of that place and saved multiple, multiple lives. a hero, as far as i'm concerned. >> reporter: one man who was shot spoke with our wichita affiliate k with wch from his hospital bed. >> we heard gunshots and people were just running, saying somebody was shooting. and next thing you know, i felt i got hit in the leg. >> i won't be happy until i see him in person, you know? i feel like i'm in a nightmare right now. >> reporter: jennifer trujillo's husband was inside the plant and the two were reunited on live tv. >> oh, my god! >> reporter: video posted to
to show him firing a gun into a field. his criminal past includes multiple burglary convictions and fleeing from police and disorderly conduct. the fbi and atf are joining the investigation, but, so far, there are no connections to any foreign terror groups. >> manuel, thank you. apple is asking a federal judge to reverse her order telling the company to help unlock the san bernardino gunman's iphone. google, facebook, twitter and microsoft are expected to file legal briefs supporting apple. jeff pegues is in washington. >> reporter: tech industry giants are coalescing over this issue. apple's 60-page motion accuses the government to use terrorism to survival this and says the fbi is seeking dangerous power. apple's motion to drop the demand comes more than a week after a california judge ruled against the tech giant.
claims the government says just this once, and just this phone. but apple insists the government knows those statements are not true. the company is rejecting the fbi's claim that the court's ruling is limited to san bernardino shooter syed farook's phone. fbi director james comey told congress farook's model is unique to other phones. >> the combination of a 5c and this particular operating system is unusual that it's unlikely to be a trailblazer. >> reporter: the government is asking apple to develop software that would, in part, disable the auto erase function that wipes the phone clean after a pass code fails ten times. apple insists that the request violates its first amendment rights. >> that is an act of speech. software is a language, like spanish. the technology, when you undo privacy once, it gets replicated
requests are unprecedented and it has cooperated with investigators before but that the government has never asked them to create a program that taps into the company's own security framework. apple will hold its annual shareholders meeting this morning in coupe alifornia. the first hearing in court is scheduled for march 22nd. in just hours, a partial cease-fire set to begin in syria. speaking at the state department, president obama warned russia and the syrian government the world will be watching. the temporary truce will not include isis or the al qaeda affiliated group al nusra front. our elizabeth palmer is in a syrian-controlled town south of the capital damascus. >> reporter: good morning. we have been driving down into the south of syria and we have heard all along the way the sounds of rocketing and bombing. the syrian observatory for human rights does confirm that the army is on aggressive attack in these hours leading into what we
we already know that some groups are excluded. isis, al qaeda affiliate al nusra, and now the turks are saying they reserve the right to continue to fight the kurds. the united nations hopes that leaves enough smaller opposition groups willing to buy into this truce that, at last, aid and supplies can go in to help the hundreds of thousands of people who are desperate and have been cut off for months or even years. norah? >> incredible reporting there, elizabeth palmer, in syria. thank you.
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the oscars is this sunday and marks the official end of black history month. >> it's been announced that vice president joe biden will be a presenter at sunday night's oscars. yeah. yeah. so diversity problem solved! welcome back to "cbs this morning." coming up this half hour, norman lear who created tv shuts like "the jeffersons." race. why people may want to look at the evolution of television to
reflected in entertainment. donald trump, the gop front-runner prides himself on giving. tim to show you some of the the globe. snapshots from astronaut scott kelly's year in space. he is scheduled to return to earth tuesday after 340 days on the international space station. - space for a nasa astronaut. kelly will have orbited earth more than 5,000 times. that is nearly 11,000 sunrises and sunsets. he has also posted hundreds of photos. the detroit news says flint's toxic water reached the governor's inner circle a year before an emergency was declared. e-mails show in october of 2014 aides said the water should be switched back to detroit's system. the call was prompted by general motors worries that river water was rusting their engine parts. yesterday, snyder's chief of staff said the governor's office
time but it was too spevens expensive. >> the las vegas review journal reports that nevada governor brian sandoval told the white house he would rather not be considered for the supreme court. "usa today" reports on facebook chief mark zuckerberg's stern memo to workers. black lives matters was erased from company walls and replaced with all lives matter. zuckerberg says this is a deeply hurtful and tiresome experience for the black community and i now consider this malicious and crossing out something means silencing speech. facebook is investigating but not commenting. interesting, they said this is several instances of the same thing happening. >> at facebook, yeah. "the washington post" reports on senator lindsey graham's comedic take on the presidential race and his own party.
ha, ha. who is about to be president. ha, ha. how could that be? my party is going [ bleep ] that crazy! if you kill ted cruz on the floor of the senate and the trial is in the senate, nobody could convict you. ha, ha. >> there you go. the south carolina senator slammed donald trump, but said he would back him if he is nominated. graham added, quote, i am like on the team that bought a ticket on the titanic after we saw the movie. we showed you how donald trump's rivals pressed him but last night's debate on releasing his tax returns trump says the federal government is keeping him from doing so. his opponents claim he has something to hide. julianna goldman dug into trump's money and she looks at just how charitable he has been. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. if donald trump released his tax returns they would show his income and what percentage of that he is paying in taxes and
but he says he can't. >> i was the first one to file a financial disclosure, almost a hundred pages. you don't learn anybody about somebody's wealth with a tax return. >> reporter: donald trump says the internal revenue service is keeping him from releasing his tax returns. audited every year. that. every year, they audit me, audit me. >> the only reason you're not will get hit. >> reporter: no rule that prevents trump from releasing them whether audited or not and something the irs can't confirm. federal prohibits them from disclosing if a private citizen is this audited. >> i give a lot of money to people and charities and everything. i love people. i think i'm a nice person. i want to be a nice person. >> reporter: his campaign says he has given away over $100 million. trump's tax returns would provide a complete picture.
really tricky and, you know, nobody is required to disclose their private donations, but we just don't have a sense of whether that is true or not. >> reporter: stacy palmer is the editor of the chronicle of philanthropy. >> certainly when harvard gets a big gift and says we are naming a school after somebody, they say it's 350 million dollars that we received and we all know about that and have it verified. you don't have that with trump. >> reporter: to get a better sense of trump's philanthropy we turned to his foundation. over that period it gave over $5.2 million. the list of grant recipients skews towards celebrity and includes charities associated with joe torre, arnold palmer and jenny mccarthy and larry king. in 2014 donations from the trump
>> anybody who gives money is a philanthropy he is one of the biggest donors or the one in american philanthropy? no, we don't see any evidence that. >> more than 60% of the money drump gives away doesn't come from him himself. one wealthy donor in new york ticket broker gave nearly $1.9 million to the foundation. as for trump's recent charity drive for veterans, he says he has distributed millions but his campaign won't provide a comprehensive list of where the money has gone. >> we don't know if the money has been distributed yet? >> we don't have a comprehensive tally of which organizations it's gone to and how much each organization has received. >> julianna, thank you. airline passengers had a disturbing reaction to a family forced off a plane over a medical emergency.
reaction to a dog on a plane. he was traveling with his father who has terminal cancer. the family says the flight attendant was rude when they were asked to change seats. the takeoff was delayed and they were asked to take another flight. that is when a number of passengers applauding as the family walked off the plane. experience. >> a memory of this, my dad remembering this of people got off. >> the family says it isn't agriwith alagri agri -- angry with allegiant and the airline has apologized. >> the man who brought you archie bunker and george jefferson talks about race in hollywood. should the tv face the same questions as the movie business? that is next. if you're heading out the door, watch us live through your all-access digital advice.
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the controversy over this year's oscar nominations, another part of hollywood, television, has a long history of roles featuring people of color. so does the small screen do a better job of showing true diversity in america? ben tracy talked to a man known for pushing boundaries. well, we are moving on up >> reporter: more than 40 years, norman lear pioneered a new genre of sitcoms by casting lead man in roles. "the jefferson's" aired on tv. how many years on the show does this later depict? >> people of color came to me and talked to me and talked
russell simmons saw george jefferson write a check and he never forgot. that is the moment he learned, he told me, that a black man could write a check. >> what it needs is some more green. >> norman brought to the situation comedy, this idea that it was profitable and successful for tv shows to talk about what is happening in the culture at the time. >> reporter: in an episode that aired in 1976, the lead characters openly exchanged slurs. >> don't call me punk! a sudden? >> he is not the only one. >> how would you like it if i called you [ bleep ]? >> go [ bleep ]! >> reporter: the success of lear's programs paved the way for "the cosby show." and "the fresh prince of bellaire." but these depictions of upper middle class black families
it doesn't feel we talk about these things as forthrightly as with you were doing on television. >> america doesn't look itself in the mirror and see itself honestly. as a consequence, we don't have really good reliable honest conversations about our problems. >> i need a real woman! >> now we have reached a point where all tv networks are so desperate for audiences, they are turning to women and they are turning to people of color who proportionately watch television more than white audiences. >> this is important. we are all going to sit and watch "it" together. >> reporter: this week, the abc comedy "blackish" broadcast an episode on police brutality. >> krounds around crowds around the country are intensely waiting the situation. them? >> they are children. >> they are not just children. >> they are black children and they need to know the world we live in. come on! >> reporter: most of what we see
it to the big screen. >> women in color are underrepresented in television and like in film, but in film it's much worse. >> reporter: a study released by the university of southern california shows a predominantly while hollywood and speaking characters in 400 movies and tv shows and 71.7% are white and 12.2% are black and 5.8% are latino or hispanic. so you have many of your scripts here on the wall. norman lear is developing a show for netflix with an all-latino cast. do you think television is pushing that envelope today as much as you did back then? >> i didn't think we were pushing an envelope. i thought we were dealing with the problems american families were facing. >> reporter: and reflecting society as it is is still lear's passion. for "cbs this morning," ben tracy, los angeles. >> really important study. i interviewed norman lear once
all this came up, how did he even think of these ideas. he said so often he would be riding the subway and look into homes and realize how similar people were to the life he was living in these packed houses and apartments and made him realize he needed to show that similarity. >> he created one hit after another. >> yeah. genius. spike lee just arrived right here in studio 57. also paybalance cofounder is here. good morning, guys. >> this is a conversation i'd like to hear. >> ahead, why he changed his mind on whether apple should be forced to unlock the san
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a shouting match and boarded on bedlem bedlem. >> you're not winning a twitter war with donald trump. >> no way we would let a con artist to overtake the conservative movement and donald >> >>ist. >> he is pouring sweat i've never seen anything like it and i don't know what the problem is but he is pouring down sweat. we have to have somebody that doesn't sweat. >> when donald trump released his tax returns it would show his income and what percentage he is paying in taxes but he says he can't. >> barack obama used to be their number one politician and now it's bernie sanders. >> poor obama. young people used to think he was so cool. this was him in 2008. and now he is considered less cool than this guy. he is playing basketball with hands in
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marco rubio and ted cruz hit front-runner donald trump last night's debate on everything from health care to immigration. >> you're the only person on for hire ing people to work on your projects illegal. >> i'm the only one on the stage that has hired people. you haven't hired anybody. >> he said, i'm not going to pay for that, quote, f'ing wall. >> this guy used a filthy sdust disgusting word on television and he should be ashamed of himself and should apologize. the wall is $10 billion to 12 billion if i do it and if these guys do it will cost 200 billion. >> if he builds the wall like trump towers he will be using illegal labor to do it. >> i get along with everybody. you don't get along with anybody. you don't have one republican senator, and you work with them every day of your life and skip a lot of time, these are minor details. >> i think donald is right. he is promising if he is elected he will cut deals in washington. he right.
of thousands of dollars to democrats. >> this is robin hood over here. he talks about corruption on his financial disclosure form. he didn't even put that he has borrowed money from citibank and from goldman sachs. >> the insurance companies take care of the politicians and insurance companies get what they want. we should have gotten rid of the lines around each state so we could have real competition. >> is that the only part of the plan? just lines? >> you have many different plans. you'll have competitionship plans. >> now he is repeating himddle. >> -- himself. >> no, i'm not repeating myself. >> you are repeating yourself. >> here is the guy repeating himself. >> five things, everyone is dumb and he going to make america great again. >> senator rubio, please stop! >> every night, same thing! >> well, last night's debate both marco rubio and ted cruz
in a court filing on thursday apple hit back hard at the government over unlocking an iphone of the san bernardino apple said the following. fbi director james comey said thursday, quote, the hardest question i've seen in government and it's going to require negotiation and conversation. the cofounder paypal max levchin has joined that conversation and joined on yelp's board until last year and he is of a tech company. welcome. >> great to be here. >> let me ask you this one simple question. how do you see this controversy,
conversation and negotiation, what is at issue here for you? >> so is this a blank question? a tough answer. but i fundamentally changed my views the last several days listening to the debate going from helping is terrorist clear-cut black and eye test to my view today which i think is the right one. fundamentally supporting tim cook in what he is trying to do. this is ultimately a question of drawing the line in the sand and it's a brand-new set of problems. fbi or law enforcement asking a company to write code to survey its customers is unprecedented and what tim cook is trying to do is bring it into the public debate all the way to congress, all the way to the supreme court. and have a clear set of laws created because there isn't anything on the books today. so i think that is profound lie important. >> you've heard the case that the fbi director said on capitol hill yesterday. the code the judge has directed apple to write works on only this phone.
the wild and working on my phone or your phone experts tell me is not the real thing. is that argument -- >> i think it runs on this particular iphone but by extension, it's true that they can write code that works on any other iphone, yours for example or my laptop or your laptop. if there is ultimately a law is a thas says that is okay, tim cook is saying we need to hear it and stated to the american people we are all fine with this. >> max, what do you think has changed? because as i look at this debate, apple has been cooperating with law enforcement, as well as us intelligence agencies for years. last year they handed over 3,000 cases and why all of a sudden has apple decided to draw a line in the sand on this case? >> i can't speak for apple, obviously. i suspect and -- just like i said, it's a really complex issue and all of us, certainly i as a parent or a husband, the
law enforcement. it's very clear that apple has been andments to continue to do so. but it must have felt that the slope has gotten very slippery, where you start by handing over data that you had access to as court order would compel you do you're asked to do more and build more software. why not expect to have software in your phone to record what you say and that is something they clearly could not deal with without having it completely heard out publicly. >> why is it that the government needs apple's help? i think people would think, naturally why not recruit people on your own from silicon valley and you have your own capability of hacking into the phone. >> it turns out this particular one issue technologically without apple's help is impossible. the security within the iphone today is strong enough where the company, itself, has means to unlock it if they are compelled to do so, but the best hark in the world, without apple's help, could not.
i mean, as you know, it's a need to ask this. you worry about precedent and you worry about having access by anybody and, clearly, people around the world will use the precedent. >> uh-huh. >> but what is it that prevents this society from figuring out a way to allow them to get information about terrorism? >> i think we are ultimately worried about the precedent. i think that is the most important thing here. >> precedent takes precedent over the lives of people who might be endangered by terrorism? >> i think that's the hardest part about this case, and i think what tim koom cook cook is saying, yes, it does. it's really hard for me to say, yes, it does, but i think from the prospective we want to live in and what law we want to do firefight it does or doesn't we need off a public debate about
it means. we have been here before. the precedent from waterboarding and we have put aside the conversation what is important to us as a society, as a country in favor of solving a problem that is immediately in front of us, and, subsequently, we found ourselves soul searching over and over again. i think that is what they are trying to prevent. >> do you think this process and this conversation is taking place now and that either at the supreme court level or before congress, something will change? >> absolutely. i think it is out. >> max, thank you. spike lee is in the toyota green room. we will take a closer look at the oscar controversy and we
tomorrow night "48 hours" examines a bizarre killing in seattle. a man was sitting in traffic and gunned down simply for the thrill. that is what prosecutors say was the motive for murder. the man arrested in the shooting was hailed as a genius. peter van sant investigates the prodigy who allegedly trained for years to commit the perfect murder. here is a preview. >> reporter: it was a murder that put the city of seattle on edge. >> it was like a bomb had dropped. >> none of us is ever safe. any of us could have been him. >> reporter: prosecutors adrian mccoy and kristen richardson say the murder of yancy noel shot to death in his car while stopped at a red light seemed totally random. >> the police went all out.
>> reporter: it happened on a quiet summer's night in 2012. local wine steward yancy noel was driving home from work when he was shot four times in the head by a man in a bmw sports car who fled the scene. >> yancy had no criminal history history, no history of being a hot-head. >> reporter: detective dana duffy and her partner frank clark suspected it might be a case of road rage on steroids. >> we didn't know if it was a targeted shooting or if it was a random shooting. >> reporter: weeks went by and then police got a tip. the name vin bowman who appeared to be the most unlikely of potential suspects. >> the people that we have spoken to have described him as brilliant. a genius. >> reporter: bowman and his wife jennifer were taken to police headquarters where bowman refused to talk. his wife jennifer dodged questions. police suspected she was
>> have you heard of any murders like, within a few blocks of weeks? >> i'm not sure. >> you're not sure? it's a yes or no question. do you want to talk to a lawyer or talk to us first? >> i guess i'd like to talk to a >> reporter: bowman got his lawyer and he was arrested. wife jennifer was released but stood by her man. there were hundreds of jailhouse phone calls. >> they had pet names, jen was bunny. and mrs. bowman, jennifer, was snuggles. >> when they talked to each other, they talk in baby talk. >> honey, how are you? >> i'm doing good. how is my little snuggle? >> i dream about you. >> yea! >> reporter: when police examined bowman's computer, they discovered he had been building a library of information on death and murder. and videos reveal he was an expert marksman. >> police didn't know they were looking for a student of murder.
kill. >> peter van sant is here with "more just to kill." that is the motive? >> yes. this was a random killing and one of the most terrifying kind by a genius engineer. this man was working on making the first electric motorcycle. he designed robotics and went to college when he was 1. 2. very much a loner. fancied himself like james bond and could fire handguns accurately and won a shooting competition with both hands and played it out to this tragic end. >> what question is your piece asking? >> our piece is trying to get inside the mind of someone who had everything in life to achieve and, yet, chose a random act of violence that is similar to what a gang member would do. he pulled up alongside a complete stranger and put four bullets in his head and why? the back story is fascinating. >> especially based on what you've told us. what a prodigy he was.
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that gibson guitar played by ricky sanborn is up for auction tomorrow in new york. collection features manufacture music -- some of the rock legends unforgettable guitars. >> talking about righteous brothers and sonny and cher and mamma and papa. >> it includes a golden beauty donate by george benson, r&b legends and one by bb king that famous called lucille. >> i know i saw charlie's eyes light up. may he'll be bidding? maybe not? filmmaker spike lee is
>> that is new england quarterback tom brady recreating a classic "lion king" moment to welcome his new puppy to the family. brady got the pup named fluffy from an animal shelter in los angeles. >> so cute! >> he is a stream of light coming down on the puppy. >> very cute. kind of a different picture than what we saw gronk doing yesterday.
>> a different kind of fun. a new documentary on michael jackson looks at a major turning point for the king of pop. the man behind that documentary, director spike lee is right here in studio 57. how he believes hollywood can take on the diversity issue with this week's oscars under fire. that is ahead. time to show you some of the morning's headlines from around the globe. the cleveland plain dealer reports on the nation's first uterus transplant. wednesday's operation took place at the cleveland clinic. a 26-year-old woman was a recipient. donor. the patient has to wait a year before trying to become pregnant through in vitro fertilization. >> isn't that amazing? medicine, medicine, medicine. the st. louis patch dispatch is covering a university of missouri prefer who is fired
the university said melissa click was not encouraged to physical limitation against a student. the oscars are still missing many faces when it comes to diversity. the second straight year, all 20 academy award acting nominees are white. 91% of oscar voters are white. down 3% since 2012. 76% are male. 1% drop. about 3% are black. a slight increase. the academy members are picked for life slowing the push to diversify. >> the 88th annual oscars are two days away. big hollywood names will not be there. two-time nominee and oscar recipient spike lee revealed on instagram he and his wife will not attend sunday's ceremony. the motion picture academy announced in january it will take historic action to make its membership more conclusive but lee thinks the problem goes much
he is out with a new documentary "michael jackie's journey from motown to off the wall." welcome to studio 57. >> how are you doing? you didn't ask me where i'm going to be? >> where are you going to be? >> the world's norah o'donnell most famous be arena, madison square garden. my beloved new york knicks will hopefully put up a good performance against the miami heat. >> that will be a good one. >> have you looked at the standings lalted tely? we are at the bottom of the east! >> we are talking about what your beloved knicks need. >> yeah. >> where are you going to be on the night of the oscars? >> the world's most famous arena! >> okay. >> can you help him? >> what he meant to say -- >> i thought you were just joking with me because we love the knicks. >> no, no, i'm going to the game! >> we were talking about earlier was your decision. you're not calling it a boycott. your decision to not attend. this has been longstanding for you.
what was the impetus this year that made you say i'm not going? >> well, the nominations came out like the day before on national holiday for mlk day, and for the second year in a row, those keeping score at home, sports fans, 20-0. two years in a row, 20-0. two years, 40-0. that is ridiculous. i think so many performances that got overlooked. my wife and said, we can't go. we didn't call anybody. i was not on the phone with jada or will. we did this independently and they did it independently and independently too. it's pervasive and people said we are fed up and not going. >> you say it's not just those who vote, you say it's a problem with the major studios. >> yeah. have you seen "hamilton" yet? >> yes. >> one of my favorite songs -- >> not in the room. >> yes, we got to be in the
i can't sing but we are not in the room. we are not in the gatekeeper positions. we don't have green lights. i'm happy that abc appointed an african-american woman as a new entertainment person. that's a start. the oscar thing, it's the biggest thing. we are not in the room and not in the gatekeeper position. >> a couple of things to do here. number one, what you want to do is more african-american executives at every level of the -- >> people of color. >> people of color? >> yes. like we need a version of the nfl's rooney rule. >> right. >> in the entertainment industry. >> do you think process is the only way things will change? we discussed that before throughout the show. >> you have a good point. it always comes down to from
of missouri, when they knew that the football team was going to be on strike and they had to write a 1 million dollar check, that president of the university of missouri, the board of trade got together and he was out there. comes down to dollar bills. >> there was a new ucla study that found when half of the cast of a movie is not white, the film has more success at the box office. there is the argument to make the studio heads, right? >> that is the thing. forget about this being america and what is right to do. let's appeal to the bottom line. united states census bureau said by the year 2036 white americans would be a minority. >> right. >> if i'm a businessman, i want to make money, i'm going to appeal to what this country -- >> you're going to skirt the largest audience? >> yes. you cannot ignore people of color in this country like these think. >> you're advertising your new
>> no surprise there. >> where is our t-shirt? that is a nice looking t-shirt. what is great about your documentary, though is -- >> and the game plan is let's just deal with the music. all of the other stuff, not here. let's just deal with this genius and that is we have done with "bad" and "off the wall. >> i-seen a lot of genius before in him before. >> he was able james brown, gene and is a -- sinatra and others to make it his own. >> what about this particular time in his life? >> this is key because this follows him from one of the
him be starring in "the whiz" where he met quincy jones. now is a key thing on to his first solo album "off the wall." "thriller "thriller "thriller" and "bad" all off quincy jones. >> spike lee, thank you very much. >> thanks for having me. go knicks, friday night! i will not be at the oscars in l.a. >> you can watch "off the wall michael jackson's journey" on cbs.
duke won again last night over florida state. the victory came after star grayson allen appeared to trip may. earlier this month allen was called for a flagrant foul when he tripped a louisville player. last night, the officials did not call a foul. >> the latest victory is a boost from the alma mater for me. duke is gunning for a 40th ncaa appearance. students camp out for the chance to see the blue devils play. one longtime fan for whom tickets were out of reach finally got to cheer them on in person. kenneth craig is outside of cameron indoor stadium on the duke campus in durham, north carolina.
>> reporter: good morning. marty sluski has been protecting and serving others for year and told me about his time in vietnam and three decades with new york's fire department but what happened to him here this week, he'll never forget. you've met a lot of students, i can imagine. >> thousands of them. >> reporter: marty shutski is helping people all his life but for the 62-year-old last night, he was the one getting the help. >> it's been a dream, i'd say, to go to an actual duke basketball game for the last ten years. and i was so excited that i couldn't even sleep. >> there you with, marty! >> yeah. everything good? >> got your sweatshirt on. >> got my duke shirt. >> reporter: working as a security guard at one of duke's campus libraries, he is a well-known face to the students. he works the graveyard shift, often hearing the cheers from nearby indoor cameron stadium. >> going to the game tonight? >> absolutely.
in the stands to cheer on his beloved blue devils. why is that? >> well, because it's super, super expensive. >> i thought he is such a friendly guy. you see him walking down the hall and i said i want to be friends with him. >> he has worked here 12 years. so it's crazy that he hasn't been to a game before. >> reporter: duke sophomore kayla schultz and lauren perry, create a go fund me page looking to raise 4 30 dollars for a pair of tickets and 30 minds after sharing it on facebook they hit their goal and beyond. >> it just makes you realize how precious he is to the students and how many people love and respect him. >> people are going specifically because you're going. >> reporter: what went through your head when they presented you with those tickets? >> i'm going to a duke game! and i'm very, very excite! >> reporter: it's like a dream for you?
we want to take a moment to salute a long time member of our cbs news family. anthony santos is retiring after an amazing 35-year run. he started on the road and worked in our videotape department before becoming an associate director right here at "cbs this morning." congratulations, tony! >> it's a remarkable family here rat cbs and at cbs and he is an important part of it. tune into the "cbs evening news" tonight with scott pelley and nnchts. cbsn. let's look back at the week that was. have a great weekend. >> we won with young. we won with old.
we won with poorly educated. i love the poorly educated. >> donald trump got more votes than rubio and cruz combined by winning every category. >> no way we will allow a con artist take over. >> what do you think a trump government would look like, senator? >> it would be terrible. >> you're looking at him. >> the fight goes on. >> the nevada victory was a huge relief for the clinton camp. >> we never doubted each other. >> the devastation is just epic. the buildings have been blown clean off. >> our house started shaking. >> rvs thrown like children's toys. this someplace a scrap yard now. >> apple executives say this is a slippery slope. >> back door does put millions of customers at risk. >> they received complaints about dalton's erratic behavior. >> are you jason brian dalton? >> yes.
didn't shed any tears. hey hey ho ho feel good >> going down. >> we do love gronk. he has some moves, gayle king. >> he is fun to watch on and off the field. >> no doubt. >> back or front? >> back or front is right! the boy looks good. see that boy walk i'm james dean whatever you toss just because i struggle >> you said there should be a revolt against pants. >> a, we are at a table so none of us have to wear pants. >> i think it's a good idea if we do. >> somebody you are considering to have context with traveled to south america or a place there
>> what is the diplomatic way to ask that question? >> i'll have to say, you'll have to consult charlie on that one. >> let me say it again. >> new yorker calls it a decline of civilization. croissant are getting straightened out. >> it's scary. ni athlete who tells me anything speaking the truth. >> ted cruz the other night in south carolina said we made history tonight and i'm thinking, what kind of history? you're in the south. you can't walk a block without running into a white evangelical. >> thank you, mike. >> okay. >> are you done? >> well, no! >> it's the clock. not you. >> that's not welcoming!
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