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corridor to hendersonville, rutherford, marion, and madison county. then, it is all about the cold air. a wind chill advisory until noon where temperatures will feel like -15 to around zero. it will be frigid in the mountains. regular temperatures, 30 in greenville, 30 two in spartanburg. the wind chill is 10 degrees cooler than that. we will start in the 20's and only rise to the upper 30's. very cold. we turn our attention to the winter storm sunday night. it will be a close call for many . it will be on the border of being a significant ice storm and being a nuisance for area south of 85. sunday night, snow for the mountains moving to the upstate north of 85, maybe one inch or
in the morning hours it will change to a wintry mix of sleet and freezing rain. that will continue for several hours on monday morning before warmer air changes the freezing rain to rainfall. slowly but surely, that will happen. accumulation. myra: turning to "commitment 2016," all the republicans left standing after the new hampshire primary will stand on the peace center stage. senator marco rubio will be there -- across the carolinas sharing his message. patrick: since tuesday's fifth place finish in the new hampshire primary senator rubio , is taking no chances here as he canvases south carolina with a series of rallies to get his message to voters.
rallies, we were invited onboard the rubio tour bus, where we had a chance to talk about that message. sen. rubio: our country is struggling right now in manufacturing, but south carolina's growing. you have boeing, michelin, bmw -- all these businesses that are coming here and making things here. patrick: looking ahead to saturday night's debate in greenville, rubio talked about how he plans to deal with frontrunner donald trump. sen. rubio: it's been hard to point out policy differences with donald, because he doesn't outline any policy. he's running on message on attitude, not on policy. i think that's going to change. it's going to have to change. patrick: some have pitted rubio against jeb bush in south carolina where bush once led in the polls. their relationship spans 20-years. patrick: how has that changed in the last year? sen. rubio: well, we can't talk as often as we once did, because we're running for the same position right now. so it makes that harder, but personally i have tremendous esteem for him as a person, for him as gov of florida. i'm not running against jeb, i didn't get into this race to stop him. patrick: and rubio said he's confident in his chances here in
sen. rubio: we've spent a lot of time here personally and as a candidate. and of course, it's a state that cares a lot about the issue that i'm most passionate about, and that's national security. patrick: the former college football player says he's in the middle of the second quarter of his run for the white house, but in south carolina -- sen. rubio: for south carolina we're in the 4th quarter. patrick: in greenville, patrick hussion, wyff news 4. myra: 4 republicans addressed voters at bob jones university. faith and family were the main topics. jeb bush, marco rubio, and marco rubio attended a forum at the school. hillary clinton and bernie sanders have been trying to appeal to african-american voters. hillary clinton has shown support for president obama, who is popular with the
mrs. clinton: senator sanders leadership test. senator sanders: do senators have a right to disagree with the president? have you ever disagreed with a president? i suspect you have. myra: former virginia governor jim gilmore suspended his campaign on friday afternoon. donald trump has said he would sue ted cruz for not being a natural born citizen. he said if he does not clean up his act, stop cheating, and running negative ads, i will sue him for not being a natural born citizen. he would argue the senator is an eligible for the presidency. john kasich was in columbia speaking at a chamber of commerce event.
momentum in south carolina. he said his campaign has had to scramble to find bigger venues, and hopes that message resonates with voters. a heads up as you travel this weekend, because of the gop presidential debate the city of greenville has closed some roads -- as you can see in this map, they are the red lines. broad street from river to main street. main street from court to murphy street south laurens street from broad to court street court street from main to river street. these roads will be closed from 8:00 a.m. today to 2:00 a.m. on -- 2:00 a.m. tomorrow. wyff 4 is your home for debate coverage. the peace center debate is the last one before the primary in a week. make sure you switch to wyff news 4 at 11:00. we will have voter reaction and expert analysis.
at 11:00 after the debate. you may have noticed a new campaign headquarters near the peace center and republican debate site. the frank underwood 2015 headquarters opened yesterday. he is the fictional senator from south carolina and the netflix political drama "house of cards." fans of the show and people who are curious stopped in to sit in the senator's chair. many said they would like to see underwood in the debate. >> frank is number one, he can do no wrong, he needs to be the he always does a great. >> in terms of language and action, donald trump cannot compare with frank. myra: campaign headquarters will open at 8:00 this morning
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bamberg: i was one of the leaders in the house to take charge and say the flag has to come down now. bernie aligns more with what i'm passionate about -- addressing issues with civil rights, criminal justice reform, income disparities. change needs to happen and it needs to happen now. we need a leader like bernie who is not afraid to go against the status quo. for years he stood up against wrong, even when it wasn't popular. sanders: i'm bernie sanders, and i approve this message. >> now, your live super doppler 4 hd weather forecast. chris: good saturday morning.
seen all season. 30 degrees with colder air as the day goes on. we will only rise about six-degrees. dry for most of us, but light snow showers toward northern haywood and madison counties. on the way over to marion, seeing a few snow showers. it is all about the cold in the north carolina mountains. we have a winter chill advisory until noon, meaning wind chill values will be frigid. negative five in boone. 11 in hendersonville. 20's in the upstate. not as bad down the mountain, but feeling chilly. your thermometer reads 30 in greenville, 23 in asheville. we will see loads of sunshine, but temperatures do not warm.
the day into the upper 30's. for the north carolina mountains, it will be colder and breezy -- making it feel even colder. sunshine, temperatures in the lower 20's. 20 degrees below where you should be this time of year. look for highs in the mountains to be cold. 25, asheville. 37, greenville and spartanburg. monday, we are tracking a complicated winter storm. this has been one of the hardest ones to forecast in a few years. we are getting better knowledge of what will unfold. it looks like it will start as snowfall north of i-85 monday morning and sunday night. one inch or two inches across the mountains and upstate. monday morning by 7:00 a.m. it will change to sleet and
warmer air will move from the south as the morning goes on, and we will see freezing rain change to rainfall by 10:00. the freezing rain will continue for pickens, greenville, and spartanburg county's eastbound before changing terrain. it looks like -- changing to rain. it looks like we could have ice early, changing to rainfall on one day. it depends on how long it takes the rain to change over on how much we will get. it looks like we could have heavy rain into monday evening before it pushes out around 3:00 m. models are showing anywhere from nothing to one inch of snow in the greenville-spartanburg area. it looks like we will see 1/10
snow. anywhere from one inch to three inches in the asheville-hendersonville area with a light glaze of ice on top before the rain washes it away. we could have slick spots, especially north of 85 to out the day on monday before the rain. monday morning snow, sleet, and freezing rain. changing over to rain monday night and tuesday morning. who will see the worst a? a light glaze in the southern part of the upstate. he will see the wintry mix. travelers rest of spartanburg, clemson, oconee county, and hendersonville. i-40 seeing the higher totals on monday. it looks like we will see temperatures stay cold all weekend.
monday will melt on to date -- we are up to 50 in the upstate, 40 in the mountains. 60's by this time next week. myra: feeling the full-range of winter. snow fell across the carolinas yesterday and disappeared. this is 11:00 fromomn top of the liberty bridge. snow even covered the sand in the outer banks. you can see the white stuff coming down index head. -- in nags head. spring break, the official start of beach season is a month and a half away. you can get weather updates even when we are not on the air -- turn to the wyff 4 mobile app for the forecast and super doppler radar.
2 15-year-old students died at a high school outside of phoenix in a murder-suicide. a suicide note was found at the scene at independence high school. the two girls were shot once and weapon -- and a weapon was found near the bodies under a covered patio near the s sool cafeteria. they have an identified, but the names are not being released because they are juveniles. plane crash in florida. the two people on board were from texas. gulf of mexico. those on board died. the faa is investigating. a north carolina woman adopted what she thought was a good-natured dog, but her family says the pit bull turned on her, attacked her, and killed her two-weeks after she adopted it. matt gregory has more.
took the same trip down the street to her daughter suzanne story's home. >> we were together about everyday. if we weren't together, we was talking on the phone. matt: brown says her daughter loved animals. two weeks ago she added a fifth dog to the house, buddy, a pit bull. her mother, fighting through the grief, says she never saw the dog. >> they told me that the guy that -- there was an ad in "the virginian pilot" for a dog that said easy-going, good with kids. matt: buddy proved anything but easy-going. wednesday afternoon, story went to clean buddy's cage and buddy turned violent. the perquiman's county sheriff eric tilley sent his deputies out. >> she had lacerations about the neck the face area. it took approximately five to seven minutes to control the dog. matt: by the time medics could get to the home, time had nearly run out. >> she didn't die till they left here with her. they were going to put her on the helicopter, and when they got there to put her on the
died. matt: brown says today the rest of the family has pulled together. they'll try to salvage what they can for story's two daughters, but they don't know where to turn next. >> we want to find the people that gave her the dog and told them it was good-natured and everything. we'd like to find that out. matt: a family trying to figure out how a love of animals could turn fatal. myra: in other news, the u.s. house sent a bill with stricter sanctions against north korea to the president's desk. the senate voted unanimously to tighten sanctions against north korea after moves to expand nuclear capability. they voted for hundred 8-2 to approve the will to take away money that the capital needs to develop a warhead and long-range missiles. germanic changes in the way people recycle. people in parts of the upstate
bottles in the trash instead of a recycling bin. on march 1, glass or not to be accepted at recycling centers in spartanburg county, or picked up through the curbside recycling collection. in greenville, 20 jim news landfill and drop-off locations. accepting glass on march 1. the policy was handed down i the policy that takes their recyclables. >> we understand folks will be absent. they want to feel good about what they are doing. they want to recycle. if we do not have a place to take glass bottles, we cannot accept them. myra: why the change? it is a trend happening across the country, including in georgia. companies are not making money
many cases it is cheaper to make new glass. you can find changes in your community on our mobile app. cam newton has been getting criticism on the news conference he walked out on after the super bowl. an eight-year-old man is standing by his favorite player. he decided to write a letter that said "dear cam newton. i'm sorry you lost, but here's a paper trofy." stephen says that he has learned trophy is a difficult word to spell. the lesson goes deeper than that. >> so, it would make him happier . when a friend falls down, the other friend always picks him up. myra: how sweet here it he
trophy. he play soccer and says that he likes cam, and he doesn't like to lose. the greenville zoo announced the name and gender of tatu, autumn and walter's third calf. tatu means their child in swahili. thanks to earthcam, millions were able to watch his birth online. don't worry, sweethearts, if you have not made plans. according to a survey one of the nations top 25 most romantic cities is close. opentable.com named greenville
chris: we will see some snow and sleet on monday morning, transitioning eventually to rain. before it does we could see light accumulations of snow and ice north of i-85 in the upstate with more significant totals in the mountains. i high of 34 on monday. it is not a cold air mass after that, 50 on tuesday. that will continue into the weekend -- we will be in the 60's. after monday, that is the big threat, but the silver lining is school is out on monday and not
try to stay home. myra: thank you. wyff 4 "today" continues. >> you are watching live, local, breaking news with myra ruiz and 80 meteorologist pamela wright. myra: we will have the latest on the race for the white house, and what you need to know about the debate taking place in greenville. chris: we've got a big storm to track. finally starting to get a good handle on what's going to happen because this is one of the most difficult storms to track i have seen a couple of years. it right on the border of having a major ice storm and more of a nuisance event. i think we will split that. more areas will see more of an end -- some areas will see more of an impact. 30 degrees in greenville.
still tracking like snow showers along i-40 heading back toward tennessee. those will come to an end in the next two hours. windchill advisory until noon. the windchill is 7 in nashville, 11 in hendersonville. frigid, dangerously cold. your thermometer is reading lower 20's in the mountains. 30's across the upstate as cold air rushes and. we will see sunshine but it will not help to warm us up. a spread of about 5 to 6 degrees only warming up to the upper 30's by this afternoon. that brings us to monday. we will see snowfall develop sunday night across the area north of i-85. all of the mountains, north of spartanburg county seeing that too. as temperatures try to warm up
atmosphere that's no will change to sleet and freezing rain through midmorning hours. freezing rain will continue for maybe four hours before rain starts to take over for areas to the southwest to the northeast so some of greenville and spartanburg county will be the last to transition over depending on how long it takes for the transition to happen will depend on how much ice we will see. eventually we will see all rain for all of us before we see ice accumulations. myra: thank you. the republicans running for tonight right here in greenville. a number of the candidates spread out across the carolinas. one of the candidates, senator marco rubio spoke with patrick roche and while on the
patrick: since tuesday's finish in the primary, senator rubio is taking no chances as he campuses the series of rallies to get his message to the voters. we were invited on board the rubio tour bus where we had a chance to talk about that message. >> our country is struggling with manufacturing but south carolina is growing. all of these businesses that are coming here and making things here. patrick: looking ahead to saturday night's debate, rubio talked about how he plans to deal with trump. >> he does not outline any policies. he is running on attitude but not on policy. it is going to have to change. some have pitted rubio against jeb bush in south carolina. their relationship spans 20 years. >> we cannot talk as often as we once did because we are running for the same position so it makes it harder.
i did not get into this race to stop him. patrick: the senator said he is confident in his chances. >> we spent a lot of time here personally and as a candidate. it is a state that cares a lot about the issue i'm most passionate about, national security. patrick: he says he is in the middle of the second quarter in his run for the white house. in greenville, patrick roche -- myra: four republicans running for president addressed voters at bob jones university. they can't family were the main topics of the forum yesterday. >> all of our policies should be aimed at creating strong families because that is the basic unit for a strong nation. >> it is politically correct to
wife, a man and a woman that are organized around loving their children with their heart and soul is just one choice. if you have bet you that is the choice that will create the greatest possibilities for families to be loving and wholesome and that children will have a chance to succeed that you are being judgmental. >> we should not have policies that are anti-family. we have a tax code that does not just punish marriage but punishes child formation. >> i do think that government policies have contributed to the breakdown of the family. you look at government policies, our broken welfare system. you are doing nobody in favor when you have government policies that penalize marriage. that make it that you get more money staying as a single mom than you do if you marry the father of your child. myra: the four candidates will
jeb bush was in anderson talking to voters. his campaign moved the meet and greet to the civic center for more room and he spoke about the need for a president who focuses on the people. after that he talked about south carolina. >> this is a good place for me because this is a state that believes in a strong national defense and they want a commander in chief who can make tough decisions and support the military. we have had seven years of cutting the military and the president that does not believe america's leadership in the world is a good thing. myra: bush told voters his first priority as president would be to stop isis. donald trump has threatened to sue ted cruz for "not being a natural born citizen." in a tweet, trump wrote "if ted cruz does not clean up his act, i have standing to sue him for not being a natural born citizen
jim gilmore has suspended his campaign for president. the former governor struggled in the polls only qualifying for the undercard debates twice. in a statement gilmore says he plans to support the republican party's eventual nominee. heads up as you had the downtown because of the gop presidential debate. there will be closed roads. there are red lines on this map showing broad street from river street to main street. main street from court to murphy street. south laurens street from brought to court street and court street from maine to river street. they will be closed from 8:00 a.m. today to 2:00 a.m. on sunday. today's debate is the last one before the south carolina primary which is one week from today.
sure to switch a -- switch over to wyff 4 11:00. we'll have extensive team coverage and expert analysis. make the switch to wyff news 4 4 at 11:00 after the debate. the new campaign headquarters, the frank underwood 2016 headquarters opened up yesterday. underwood is the fictional senator from south carolina in the netflix political drama "house of cards. " many say they would like to see underwood in a debate with gop hopefuls. >> frank needs to be frank. he can do no wrong. he needs to be representative of gaffney of the street. he will do a great job. myra: campaign headquarters will
offering food, massages, and beverage tastings until midnight. chris: the impact reader has been updated. we will see snow and sleet. 7:00 a.m. to noon. after that rain begins to move in. the timing of the rain moving and is critical to there's moving... and there's moving with move free ultra. it has triple-action support for your joints, cartilage and bones. and unlike the big osteo-bi flex pills, it's all in one tiny pill. move free ultra.
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a professional cutler in north dakota says the sessions are about the healing power of touch therapy. reporter: amber rose is a cna by trade. she is turning in her scrubs for something a little more unorthodox. >> my main focus on cuddling. the physical touch helps lower your blood pressure. i ofr back scratches because who does not love a good back scratch? i am not a licensed massage therapist, just like something you would receive from a significant other to reduce stress. reporter: amber rose says many people simply need the companionship. >> when i had a client at the baptist home, at night she would cry. pain medicine can only do so much. pain medicine cannot relieve
in there and she would talk about her family and other things like that and i would massage her legs for her. everyone needs this regardless of where you are in life. reporter: she says more and more calls are coming in and she plans to open a store this spring. >> just a very relaxed environment where someone could come in after work. instead of going for a beer after work you can cuddle someone. reporter: with a warm heart, she hopes to drive home the idea of hugs as a form of therapy. chris: the latest future plus model, snow is going to arrive for the area as we head into
you can see 385, it is a cold start to the day. 30 degrees may not sound bad but temperatures will warm about 5 to 6 degrees throughout the day. dry right now. as we
zoom in we have some snowfall across the north carorona/tennessee border. it's going to be called today. windchill advisory for the mountains. it is dangerous to be outside. it feels like 7 degrees above zero in asheville. 11 in hendersonville. it feels like the 20's across the upstate. across the area your thermometer is reading 23 in asheville. 33 in anderson. we'll expect sunshine but temperatures will not budge. 31 degrees by 11:00, 37 by 2:00 p.m. for asheville we are talking about some sunshine, even
teens this morning, 20's for a high temperarare and it will be breezy. look for high temperatures to be the coldest of north carolina mountains. 43 for clemson. cold air settling into the upstate as the day goes on. that brings us to monday morning . with cold air in place a low will be moving in. one of the most complicated storms we've had to forecast in several years. right on the border of having a big ice storm versus a small ice storm. we will see snow develop monday morning between 4:00 and 7:00 a.m. areas north of i-85 upstate all throughout the mountains. we get a quick half inch to one inch. that will transition the snow to sleet and freezing rain across the area even in the southern part of the upstate where you could get a light glaze along expecting problem spots and
hours transitioning terrain -- transitioning to rain. rain begins to take over. that onset of the rain is critical to how much ice we will see. cold air hangs on, we may see more ice totals. i think we will see slick spots through the day on monday before this heavy rainfall kicks in and falls through the evening hours, moving out by around midnight on tuesday. as far as how much we're going to see, computer models are saying about a half inch to up to an inch maximum in the upstate as far as ice is concerned, about 1/10 of an inch, maybe up to 2/10 of an inch. a light glaze of ice on top of the snow so slick spots along i-85 northbound. models for the mountains showing anywhere from one inch to upwards of three inches. two to three, a good it -- a
this is going to be critical as to what we see and when. snow and sleet between 4:00 and 7:00 a.m. between 7:00 and new we will see freezing rain. if that rain comes in earlier we will get less ice but it looks like between 12:00 and 7:00 we will see lighter rain into the evening hours. sunshine today. clouds bill tomorrow. very cold with high temperatures in the 30's this weekend. that winter storm will affect us monday morning before changing over to rain. i don't expect much refreezing tuesday morning because warmer air continues to moven. tuesday afternoon we will be at 50 and that warming trend continues with highs into the 's. myra: that is a relief because ice is never fun. you cannot play, turn on your tv
good news, chris. it is february, not your typical time of year to go swimming. there were some brave souls who were about to take a dip in lake hartwell. chris: the polar plunge will happen at portman marina this saturday in anderson county. all the money raised goes to pennies for preemies organization. an organization by grace cromer, a junior at tl hanna and reigning m ms teen south carolina international. >> i want to run with mason jars and went to schools and businesses and the need started getting bigger and mason jars just want really going to cut it anymore. myra: this is taking place today and that was grace. geoff hart will be a judge for this event. registration starts at 9:00 this morning. the plunges at 10:00 at the
county. chris: that is so cold. i cannot imagine. on a daylight today it's going to be some of the coldest air of the season. myra: i went to a personal trainer yesterday and i can barely lift up my arms so maybe the cold will make me forget about -- like you so much. -- thank you so much. what is the price of your love? a new report compares prices for a number of valentine's day staples. to find out how much the average american spends on the holiday. the price tag, $512. the most expensive purchase is diamond earrings followed by fine dining for two, champagne, a dozen roses, and a box of chocolate. at&t plans to start testing 5g wireless technology. it offer speeds of 10 to 100 times the fastest of today path
verizon says it will also test 5g. only a matter of time, now drone racing has arrived. high-speed tournaments are generating hundreds of millions of dollars in revenue. gordon tokumatsu has more. gordan: charles remembers when it was a hobby of his. one he shared with a few people online. that was then and this is now. now steeped full-time in the drone racing craze that he says is blowing up globally. >> seeing the sport grow from a couple of guys in their backyards to multimillion dollar races happening all over the world. gordan: next month he is helping to organize the world drone prix in dubai. the winner gets $1 million. eventually he says viewers will
using, a shsheli component that bloomberg news says already generates billions of dollars a year. ricky martinez shows us how the quad copters are maneuverable. we asked him about faa roles which require registration and restrict flights near airports. >> restrictions are easy to follow. gordan: melding military and security technology with video gaming which is already a multibillion-dollar industry. most of the racers build their own aircraft. >> this model is about $400. gordan: unlike in video games,
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>> wyff 4 new sports. >> a showdown for the top spot in the sec in front of a sold-out crowd today in columbia. south carolina and kentucky wilted at noon today. -- will tip at noon today. the last time south carolina beat kentucky was two years ago and frank martin says with as good as these teams are the sec deserves more respect that gets. top two teams in the league are not ranked higher than top 20. >> i cannot complain about our publicity. we have not been relevant for 100 years. we have to earn that. you don't get that because you win a game in february. we have to stay in the moment. my comment was more based on our league, the way it is viewed.
is there another conference where the number one and two seeds are not ranked? >> today's game will be televised on espn. clemson has lost back-to-back games, the tigers have six games remaining in the regular season for the acc tournament and likely need to win five out of six of those for a tournament berth. it will be a quick turnaround for the crew. clemson plays at 2:00 this afternoon anderson is that game is over the crew has to spin that arena from a basketball arena into a hockey arena. the admirals play tonight at 8:00. nascar season begins this weekend. all winter cars were on the track friday. tires meeting asphalt of the first time at the daytona
next week's race week in advance of the daytona 500. the single goal for this season, to win the championship at the end. >> i feel like we have had two championship seasons without a trophy. we have a lot of confidence. we know what it takes to win the whole thing. we have been on the edge and arguably we should of been there last year. reporter: finishing sixth in the chase. the sprint unlimited is tonight. daytona 500 is a week from sunday. a special night in the low country for tony elliott. james island high school retired elliott's jersey. the former wide receiver says he hopes young people that were in the crowd friday night saw what is possible if you put in hard work and dedication. >> it is part of the
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today in high-definition myra:. myra:debating here in the carolinas. we will tell you who you will be able to see today at for the gop presidential candidate debate. good morning. i myra ruiz. chris: i'm chris justus. myra: it's nice to have you with us. chris: monday is starting to come in to better picture. a better idea what's going to happen. we are right on the border of
then a light ice storm. i think we are right in the middle. some areas will see more accumulation. a long i-85 we will see moderate. greenville, we are starting off clear and cold, 29 degrees. cold air is surging in. you can see that arctic front giving the mountains a few snow showers along i-40 heading into tennessee. then it is all about the cold. a wind chill advisory in the mountains bordering tennessee. that means it's going to feel like around zero for the first part of the day. 10 in hendersonville. it feels like negative six in boone. our thermometer reading in the 20's and 30's this morning. it is 22 in nashville, 34 in -- 22 in asheville. 34 in clemson.