ted cruz learned an awful lot and he learned what ronald regan and ike knew. you can only push the american people so far. >> what about the democrats, is it inevitable that hillary will be the nominee? >> i don't think it is. everybody thought -- everybody that is saying it's inevitable that she's going to be the nominee today were saying it was going to be inevitable in 2006 and then they talked to the "new york times" and other democrats started saying, i kind of agree with what he said. i don't think that it's a fait accompli. >> which raises a question? does it have to be a woman and therefore elizabeth warren? >> if you want to excite true believers, get elizabeth warren out on the campaign trail. we interviewed her up at fenway and i turned to mika halfway through and said she's about as good as i've seen. she's a natural. >> then there's you. people look at you on the program, people look at you in congress and they look at how you talk about politics and they say joe scarborough wants to be president. and a lot of this is about -- >> a rotary club. >>