she was against same-sex marriage, she was for keystone before she was against it. i personally as a republican think hillary's more of a neocon than i'm comfortable with. >> hardly a neocon, joe, please. honestly. >> you go back and look at her position positions in the state department: >> what positions in the state department make her a neocon. name one. >> well, in every question howard where -- and, by the way, this is organizing the obvious. in every situation where there was a question of whether force should or should not be used hillary clinton was on the side of using force. and that's just a matter of record. >> the iraq war she and i have a difference of opinion, that was 15 years ago. >> kind of a big one. >> libya. >> it was also 12 years ago. what did we do wrong in libya? >> we went into libya and libya is an absolute mess because of. >> it libya was a worse mess when qaddafi was running the place and qaddafi was about to commit genocide on his people. >> let's go ba ee's go to bob a cokie. >> some of these past policies have not been great. i think

it's the same thing: there's a different between paving highways for public use and the keystone pipeline which an oil company is putting pipe down so they can make money and have their stock go up. [ applause ] >> you don't think energy security good? energy security is good for the u.s. economy? of course it is. they are two absolutely different things, joe, i have to beg to differ on this one. >> i think it's great for the economy and i supported the keystone pipeline but there's a difference between private and public use. all i'm saying is donald trump just like the people doing keystone pipeline who's doing what he was doing to make a profit and i think that's -- >> there's a distinct difference between a pipeline that gets us off of reliance of opec and venezuela, rogue nations like venezuela and a parking lot far casino in new jersey. i don't think you're comparing apples to apples there. >> i love it. >> first of all, you know the keystone pipeline won't make us independent from foreign oil and secondly you are aloud to go back and work at the "wall street journal" editorial boar