one of my favorite former senators from texas, phil gramm back in the 80s he was a conservative democrats and he was leading the he haveeffort to support ronald reagan's tax plan. he was telling the other conservatives that story. he said this is a moment to step across that line and those democrats said, but, phil, everyone who stepped across that line died. and phil without missing a beat said, you're right. they did. and everyone who didn't step across that line they died too. and nobody remembers their names. we're standing here with patriots. let me say to the men and women of south carolina, thank you for sending a principal constitutionalist freedom fighter, knife fighter like jeff duncan to represent you in the united states congress. [applause] senator cruz: there's a reason jeff and i both need food tasters in the members dining room. and just today another south carolinian former governor mark sanford endorsed this campaign. i think my favorite moment with mark was when he was your governor and walked into the state legislature carrying a live squealing pig under one arm. that'
i heard it was senator phil gramm, but i do not know that for a fact. he had taught at a&m for 10 years, i think. i finally just told rick perry, he said he was going to appoint all of the regents, and it was not going to pleasant for me if i decided to take the job. i said, i had heard that a lot of aggies did want me to, and i let the board of regents make that decision. i later told my wife what had been actually going to my mind at the time, which was i had been facing off with the deputy director of the kgb when he was first elected to the texas house and he thought he could intimidate me, but he was sadly mistaken. brian lamb: what impact is that -- what impact did that have on you for the rest of the time when you were president of a hand them? a&m? secretary gates: he had not counted votes, and six of the nine regions had been appointed by george w. bush at the time. five of those regents voted for me. i became president of a&m. he and i maintained outward stability. i think most people did not know we did not have a great relationship. i will s
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