. >> i'm curious, leigh ann, what have you learned from mr. mccarthy's office ant matt gaetz. he is actively harassing liz cheney, doing exactly what supposedly kevin mccarthy asked members of the conference not to do, not to attack fellow members, not to name check them. he is proactively doing this, flying to wyoming, creating a stir. and perhaps putting her in a bit more danger by surfacing this event so much. is he going to get any sort of reprimand here from kevin mccarthy? >> not at this moment. mccarthy has been silent on matt gaetz other than generally telling the conference yesterday to stop attacking one another. but as far as liz cheney is concerned, just a week ago he said at his press conference that he absolutely supports liz cheney being conference chair and then on some shows over the weekend he said that there were some things that she did wrong. and so he is obviously paging to pressure, polling pressure, political pressure to really have this double standard and not take a clear stance on what is -- where the party stands and it's leaving a lot of members ve