bader ginsberg. michelle and i were proud to welcome him to the white house including in 2012 for a state dinner for prime minister david cameron. and tonight we join his fellow justices in mourning this remarkable man. obviously today is a time to remember justice cscalia's legacy. i plan to fulfill my constitutional responsibilities to nominate a successor in due time. there will be plenty of time for me to do so and for the senate to fulfill its responsibility to give that person a fair hearing and a timely vote. these are responsibilities that i take seriously as should everyone. they're bigger than any one party. they are about our democracy. they're about the institution to which justice scalia dedicated his professional liver and making sure it continues to function as the beacon of justice that our founders envisioned. at this moment, we most want to think about his family. and michelle and i join the nation in sending our deepest sympathies to justice scalia's wife maureen and their loving f
bader ginsberg. a man we know for his humor and his wit and skill with the pen. let me bring in someone who knew him very well, ian samuel. thank you for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> i'm so sorry. i wish it were under better circumstances. >> yeah. it's still shocking, to tell you the truth. i don't think it's set in. >> you have a deep knowledge of him as a person. >> he loved his law clerks. he really did. he was universally beloved. maybe that contrasts. >> jovial. >> he really loved his law clerks. he described us as nieces and nephews who went onto do very well. it's a strange thing that keep sticking in my mind, but when he was interviewing me he said something that i have repeated many times about life. he was talking about when you're done here, what are you going to go do? are you going to work for a law firm? i said yeah, probably. i was maybe 27 at the time. he said these law firms they really work you hard nowadays. they don't leave enough time for your other responsibilities.
>> my best buddy on the court is ruth bader ginsberg. has always been. >> and yet you disagree with her on just about everything. >> just about everything. >> what do you like to do when you're not presiding in the supreme court? >> i like to play tennis, and in my later years, since i'm circuit justice for the fifth circuit, i have gotten into hunting. so i do a lot of hunting of various animals. >> you've been hunting with dick cheney, haven't you? >> i have indeed. >> what was that like? you lived to tell the tale, which isn't always the case. >> dick cheney is a very good wing shot. >> humans or animals? >> ducks. >> you got into trouble over that. because they said there was a potential conflict in something you were presiding over. how carefully do you think -- before you accept an invitation to go hunting with dick cheney, how hard do you think about that as a potential conflict? >> well, in that case i had accepted the invitation long before the case that was the alleged source of the conflict was before the court. but -- and tha
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