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tara setmayer and sally kohn along with ben ferguson and maria cardona. the iowa democratic party saying it was a close contact with robust turnout. what does that tell you about engagement in this campaign? >> it is fascinating since the republicans had a turnout vote of 125,000. this time up to 185,000 or so. people thought if there was more turnout, trump would win resoundi resoundingly. it goes back to the point that organization matters. ted cruz had 12,000 volunteers to get the cruz crew. they were organized on the ground. that matters in iowa. the fact that the donald trump campaign had virtually no organization on the ground. it is reported they did not pay for the infrastructure. volunteers did not know where to go or what to tell the supporters which precincts to go. that did not help donald trump. i think it is another part of the story here that it was ted cruz who benefitted. possibly marco rubio. ted cruz benefitted from the record turnout. >> no one can take away that trump can fill a room or stadium. that doesn't mean though that you have