caleb jo: thank you, robert. robert: good to see you again. great to see you at the luncheon before. caleb: right. robert: give me an idea. your film "jory," now, is it a little bit autobiographical? i mean, it's always kind of tempting to kind of think that it is, but what elements are and aren't about you? caleb: so, actually, i grew up as a dancer. in high school, i started off freshman year as a dancer, but the funny story is, actually, i wanted to impress a girl, so that's why i picked up dancing, but actually it became a passion of just expression later on, but the story "jory," a lot of people think, you know, j-o is my last name, and then the two letters of "story" is, you know, r-y, so they thought it was an autobiographical--biographical? robert: yes, "autobiographical." caleb: autobiographical, but it's actually not. it does come from, just, like, the typical story that you hear in silicon valley about, you know, students who really want to pursue the arts, but they're kind of shut down: "no, you gotta be a doctor," "you gotta be a