donald trump jr. has spent his entire life watching up close just how stupid and incompetence his father's. and so, he knew during that attack on the capitol that his father would have no idea what to do. he also appears to have known that none of the people working for his father knew what to do. and so, donald trump jr. urgently texts mark meadows to tell the white house chief of staff something that donald trump junior believes that the white house chief of staff doesn't understand, and he knows for certain that is why they didn't understand. donald trump junior texts, he's got to condemn this crop asap. the capitol police tweet is not enough. and then, donald trump jr. felt he had to text mark meadows again saying, this is one you go to the mattresses on. they will try to screw his entire legacy on this if it gets worse. for those of you have been wondering who is to put her, donald trump, or donald trump jr., there is no mystery left tonight. asked to put as long trump jr. so obviously is, he is

everyone except donald trump. two weeks ago on the night that sean penn appeared on this program, he also, appeared on sean hannity's show in a remarkable discussion between two people who disagree on everything except ukraine and vladimir putin. in the interview after sean hannity called vladimir putin evil, sean pen said this -- >> but if there is a god, there will be vengeance beyond all possible comprehension. >> donald trump still cannot bring himself to say anything like that. donald trump does not have the moral clarity of sean pen, or sean hannity. when it comes to vladimir putin. two days before, volodymyr putin's invasion of ukraine. when he publicly obtained encouragement and the authorization for an invasion in a truly foolish procedure that was televised, donald trump said, quote, there was a television screen, and i said, this is genius. putin declares a big portion of ukraine, of ukraine. putin declares it as independent. oh, that's wonderful. so putin is now saying, it's independent, a large sectio

trump, better than you know donald trump, certainly, and better than donald trump does. it sounds like there is an awful lot of similarity between them. it sounds like if someone was trying to get vladimir putin to say something negative about donald trump during the presidency that's horrible. >> that's right, lawrence, there's a long history of that. that's what i call an illiberal international around the world. they are strong men that really love power, as peter just said. they have a sort of conservative, orthodox, nationalist, anti multi lateral anti-lgbt, in the case of putin, and they have for years been interacting with each other and supporting each other. so viktor orban in his hungry, le pen in france, barrage in the uk, and mr. trump, and ideologically, those leaders that i just described have a lot more in common with people that believe in democracy and freedom. there are people that believe in democracy and freedom and those countries i just described, but the fight between democracy, the war between democracy is between autocratic putin and democratic u

how do you go from saying that to two weeks later saying you would absolutely support donald trump if he's the republican nominee in 2024? >> well, as a republican leader of the senate it should not be a front page headline i would support the republican nominee for president. >> after you said that about him i think it is astonishing. >> i think i have an obligation to support the nominee of my party. >> is there anything he could do? >> that would mean whoever the nominee is has gone out and earned the nomination. >> okay. but donald trump earned it last time, and i'm just trying to understand, you know, what you say matters. you are a very important voice of this country, you are the leader of your party and you seem to hold two conflicted positions. >> not at all inconsistent. i stand by everything i said on january 6th and everything i said on february the 13th. >> i understand. but what i want to understand, which i haven't heard you address -- >> because i don't get to pick the republican nominee for president. they're elected by the republican voters all over the country. >> i

trump authorizing this was donald trump. because the reporters of that story have direct access to donald trump, they have in the past. it sounds like donald trump is trying to say, i am in complete control of this. the white house, the former white house counsel did not go and testify there today on his own without checking with me. i authorized it. that is just a theory, just a theory. >> i am in complete control. he is definitely still differential to me, there is nothing to worry about, all of this is fine, i don't smell anything burning. i know. that is exactly what i thought as well. people who won time delivered a newspaper to the white house while trump was president are like, executive privilege, i can testify! but the white house counsel and the deputy white house counsel showing up? the idea that this is something that does not bother trump at all in terms of privilege claims, it just puts the lie to the whole thing. i would bet money that what you are surmising is correct. >> and when you asked the congresswoman

a person who might be donald trump. one of the people on trial in washington this week for his part in the insurrection at the capitol is asking the jury to find him not guilty because donald trump made him do it. 38-year-old dustin thompson drove with a friend from columbus ohio, took an uber into washington d. c. on the morning of january 6th, and before long he was in the parliamentarians office where he decided to steal a co-track. he is charged with six counts of obstructing congress joint session to certify the electoral college vote. theft of government property. entering or remaining in a restricted building or grounds. disorderly or disruptive conduct in a restricted building or grounds. disorderly or disruptive conduct and a capitol building. and parading demonstrating or picketing in a capital building. thompson's defense attorney is arguing in court that donald trump quote, authorized this assault. it was a plot, it was a scheme, it was a conspiracy that began at the highest levels of government. donald trum

it's it is a lot like donald trump's line in 2016. he's fighting for the forgotten man, and there's a lot of voters especially rural georgia who feel like they're aggrieved to feel like they're being forgotten left behind even though the people in power oftentimes our rule white georgians just like them. you mentioned the desire to turn out the base, you know, that's something that both the democrat sam republicans focus on quite a bit understandably, but it seems sometimes as if democrats are a little more concerned about winning people from outside of their base, maybe independence and even republicans. do you see that at all with the republican party because it seems like these candidates may not be able to be a successful and turning out people who aren't true believers. it's that fair. yet republicans in georgia believe that they can keep that coalition together if they can keep the same coalition that is powered them the office for years in georgia for the last two decades, then they can win they can just turn out their base. th

neither donald trump nor kevin mccarthy have issued any kind of statement, well donald trump has issued one tonight, but the two reportedly did speak today. get this, nbc news reports that mccarthy called trump to repel justice for what he said on the recording. he told trump that he did not actually mean it, and that he was just telling liz cheney what she wanted to hear. according to the washington post, donald trump reportedly told his kevin that he is not upset, in fact he is glad that his kevin had never falter and asked to resign. the post reports that trump interpreted this as a sign of his continued grip on the republican party. according to the post, other house republicans are waiting for marching orders from trump, any kind of smoke single about how he might feel about kevin mccarthy. so they can decide whether to support him for speaker, if republicans win the house in november, or ditch in for a more pro trump member of congress. as i mentioned, the former president has now spoke to the washington journal about the phone call in reporting that just came out. donald trump co

donald trump didn't need a new company. at a perfectly good job work on my good friend jim jordan i need a new job. we do this from reason and one reason only. we got censored we got canceled. and in some cases people got completely kicked off of all the platforms including the president of the united states. so we had nothing else to do what was left open internet back up to give the american to voice back. what happened today is really incredible. i think if it wasn't for donald trump stepping up and saying i'm scuba my own company i'm to go for the internet back up ice elon musk stepping up to take up one of the pigs and were sick times there has been bicycle the twitter sewer so this is an amazing day a flick of what's happening to truth i we've only been open for just a few days, were adding people just in droves. were already climbing, climbing, climbing. the what were trying to do sean assumed a little different. i think twitter is a global p.r. wire on the internet porch and a look at all the social media companies

donald trump jr. is expected to meet with the january 6th committee in the next few days. we've got details next. it can be a smaller house, but a bibigger nest egg. a goal to work toward, or thehe freedom to walk away. with 200 years of experience, personalized advice, and commission free trades on an award-winning app, we are working for you. planning. investing. advice. jp morgan wealth management. refresh italiano subway now has italian-style capicola on the new supreme meats and mozza meat. just like my nonna makes when s cooks! i don't cook. wait, what? it's a good thing 's so handsome. subway keeps refreshing and ref- >>> breaking news. donald trump jr. is expected to meet with the house select committee investigating january 6th in the next few days. cnn's ryan nobles joins us now with this reporting. ryan, first, there was ivanka trump, who met with the committee, and now don trump junior. what are you learning? >> yeah and don't forget about jared kushner, the former president's son-in-law a

trump's son-in-law and donald trump's daughter should be investigated for taking two billion dollars from saudi arabia. you will never hear a republican who complains about how much we have to pay for gasoline, ever complain about jared kushner getting two billion dollars in oil profit money from saudi arabia. a few months ago, when the news broke that jared kushner was begging saudi arabia for money, president obama's deputy national security adviser ben rhodes joined us on this program to explain the deal. >> well, lawrence, unfortunately, it's not that surprising, but it is disgusting, it's corruption on a massive scale. i think when you have to understand here, and a lot of us felt this at the time, with the saudis, often the payoff are doing their bidding is on the back end. if you look at the trump record, in which jarred is running client, and the bin salman relationship, you saw the trump administration cover for the saudis after the murder of jamal khashoggi, and his dismemberment at a consulate in turkey. you saw them do their bidding in pulling out of the iran nuclear deal

we have heard froml donald trump according to reports we have heard from donald trump. they suggest that he is not willing to go back to twitter. fair suggest that he is not willing to go back to twitter.— suggest that he is not willing to go back to twitter. fair enough. yes is on social media _ back to twitter. fair enough. yes is on social media but _ back to twitter. fair enough. yes is on social media but it _ back to twitter. fair enough. yes is on social media but it is _ back to twitter. fair enough. yes is on social media but it is doing i back to twitter. fair enough. yes is on social media but it is doing all i on social media but it is doing all that well. —— he has his own. but with the new leadership, he may be very tempted to take that offer of because he was very hurt when he was banned and is often said that he needs that platform and he should have it, it is his right to be able to speak to people in the way that other world leaders and former world leaders are able to do and there's this ongoing suggestion that twitter�*s freedom of speech pol

she did the reverse donald trump. trump is a reality star, he is a celebrity first, and is able to convert that into a political campaign. and i think that allowed him to pull this thing off and is very hard to pull off, very hard to replicate, actually. palin won the opposite way. she became a celebrity through politics. she then monetize that, and you can even serve her term. she, left she made a lot of money in the reality show. she became the celebrity figure. nationally go back into politics. and i think was interesting is when you compare her to gates, cawthorn, marjorie taylor greene, these are people getting elected and super safe seats. in deep red seats where they win a primary, and then they run. alaska is a more complicated. it's a statewide election, it's a complicated system. it's interesting best-case of how feasible this model is. >> well, it's also an incredibly important seat. one of the things that most people don't appreciate is that this is a long congressional seats. their only handful of states

of turning on donald trump. went on for days after january 6th. i want to listen again as, and we played this many times on the show because we will should ever forget this. this is january 13th on the house floor when kevin mccarthy says this. let's listen to this. >> the president bears responsibility for wednesday's attack on congress from mob rioters. he should have immediately denounced the mob when he saw what was unfolding. these facts require immediate action. from president trump. except his share of responsibility. quell the brewing unrest. and ensure president elect biden his able to successfully begin his term. >> what happened to that? >> he backed down. because he couldn't stand tall against donald trump. it was all talk and he was more afraid of the mob and security detail took him away from continually sixth. because he was afraid, personally he would lose the ability to one day be speaker and also just like so many others, it's so much easier to shrink against trump than to stand up like liz che

then i think donald trump and even a little before donald trump, brought some things to the surface, that happened to a lot of people. he was a birther, lou dobbs. he was at the forefront of that movement, questioning who president obama is and where he comes from. of course, all lies there. ending, as kevin williamson points out, with this massive lawsuit. $2.7 billion lawsuit from the voting machine company, smartmatic, where lou dobbs is named as one of three hosts pushing that lie. if you read the last five, six years, the sycofancy, that word doesn't do it justice. it is true dear leader stuff about donald trump, the way he talks about him. not just on a policy level but a personal level. he did it, i guess, to stay close to power and keep the boss happy. the boss in that case being donald trump. got him nowhere. he was a respected host of "money line" all these years turned into a guy who is alone petting his horses, it sounds like. >> it is really sad. this really has a lot of synergy with the political conversation we've been having throughout the show today and with our next

turning now to donald trump. you just confirmed today that house republican leader kevin mccarthy phoned trump to apologize for his leaked audio, what did you hear about that call? >> well i just heard that it was first reported by, i guess the new york times, from the sound clip, but kevin mccarthy called in and said basically i am sorry this happened, and then tried to assuage president trump like i was just playing along, i was giving lip service to liz cheney, this was not really me from what we understand from some people who have spoken to trump. trump just nodded along, but at the same time the word i heard was steak, it was used by a fellow republican, and that is the way in which donald trump views. him but we did not get to confirm that with donald trump. so i can't say that for certain. >> just this hour, the wall street journal interviewed trump, and he said this about mccarthy. quote, he made a call, i heard the call, i didn't like the call, said mr. trump. but almost immediately as you, know he came

so far there is no sign that donald trump is angry. he's got a good thing going with kevin mccarthy in terms of the power dynamic. he reference a level of deference that he didn't get from paul ryan, the last republican speaker of the house, and he has been forgiving with people who said bad things about him but who turn and end up being firmly loyal to him. that is going to be the test. and there are several things that we are waiting to hear from donald trump on about how he feels regarding things mccarthy is on tape saying. the first, of course, is mccarthy's suggestion that he would ask trump to resign. the second is a suggestion that mccarthy didn't want to get into questions of pence pardoning trump. that suggests that mccarthy may have thought there was criminal exposure involved beyond simply the question of impeachment and conviction. and then there's the new audio that came out earlier today where mccarthy said trump privately told him he bore some responsibility for the january 6th attack on the capitol. that is not somethin

whoever the nominee is, whether donald trump or somebody else, donald trump will be in control of that primary and will be in control where his party goes in 2024. and i think about this, looking back at past presidents, president clinton who i had the privilege to work for in the late 1990s, in 2002, when the speaker's race was up in 2002, president clinton was not involved in that race, he was not involved in deciding who the next speaker of the house was going to be. but here we are, the republicans have to fully rely on donald trump's endorsement to dictate that process. it says quite something about the state of the republican party today. >> yeah. and what kind of position, real quick, does it put kevin mccarthy in as he pursues speaker of the house should republicans take over the house? >> well, he is just completely reliant on donald trump's wins. that is not a position that i envy because as we have seen over time, whether it was his former attorney general jeff sessions, his former righthand man michael cohen, loyalty is a one way street to donald trump. he may like you toda

donald trump's junior lawyer said this was just an idea donald trump junior was passing along. he isn't the original author of the text. it's still significant given everything we know about the trump campaign that he was passing this information along to the white house chief of staff just two days after the election and before all the votes were tallied. >> ryan, stay with us. this is november 5th. not just. >> you're right. the reason it's so important is it takes away this argument that we heard from some of the people around donald trump. he really thought he had won. he really -- this was a good faith efrt to go through the legal process to try to vinds indicate an election he won. there's no way he could have believed he won on november 5th. even if they did have some evidence of election fraud, which none existed, they wouldn't have had it on november 5th. it goes right to the heart of the intent behind this scheme to steal the election. >> ryan, what are they going to do with these new text messages in. >> it's important to point out where this text message came from.

he, donald trump. those tapes were first aired when my colleague, rachel maddow's program last night. liz cheney denies recording or leaking any recordings from the call so she does not know how "the new york times" reporters had them, have them. there's also this audio, more mccarthy comments from the same call with republican leaders just days after the insurrection, a striking admission from a man who had been one of trump's staunchest defenders for four years. >> i've had it with this guy. what he did is unacceptable. nobody can defend that, and nobody should defend it. >> nobody should defend it. good lord. how quickly the tables turn. in his desperation, in his political calculus to stay alive politically and, i don't know, it sounds like the committee has other questions as well, mccarthy does the opposite of what he articulates on the call. he tells them not to defend trump, and then he does just that, defends trump's actions on the day. he made the pilgrimage down to mar-a-lago a couple weeks

hoy lunes una jueza declaró a donald trump por desacato. eso es por no cumplir por la aclaración de documentos comerciales ... en éste se le acusa de manipulación indebida de valores de varios activos inmobiliarios. donald trump tendrá que pagar 10,000 dólares diariamente mientras no cumpla con esta situación >> en otra información, autoridades federales alertan sobre el aumento en extorsiones a migrantes en el borde fronterizo pero también comentan que han visto más casos de secuestros. chantal (nombre inaudible) nos tiene más información >> en lo que va del año el fbi ha logrado rescatar a un total de 30 migrantes secuestrados dentro de la ciudad de el paso. el más reciente rescate siendo de 24 personas a las cuales se les exigía miles de dólares a cambio de su libertad >> esta investigación empezó con una llamada de uno de los 24 >> gracias a la denuncia en 24 horas localizar a la vivienda en donde los migrantes estaban secuestrados. una práctica que hasta hace unos años no se veía en estados unidos >> los secuestros

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in 2020, michigan was ground zero for donald trump's big lie, of a stolen election. trump lost that state, by over 150,000 votes. but, he refused to accept that outcome. instead, trump claimed that democrats stole the election and, he summoned michigan state lawmakers to the white house, trying to convince him of such. trump sent rudy giuliani, on his behalf, to michigan, where he pressed false claims of voter fraud, to the state house oversight committee. you might remember this woman. melissa, who testified that giuliani, that day. take a watch. >> the pole book is completely off. completely off. >> off by 30,000? >> i would say that paul book is off by over 100,000. >> how many registered voters are on there? do you even know the answer to that? >> i'm trying to get to the bottom of this. >> there is zero. >> so, my question, then, is -- >> wait, guess -- what about the turnout rate? 120%? >> we aren't seeing the pull book off by 30,000 votes. >> why did you guys do? take it into something crazy to it? >> of course, there was no fraud. trump lost in michigan, and

they're ashamed to say that they support donald trump. but it seems to me that le pen is always painted as the boogieman that's coming to get france, and it never materializes. i think that's one of the reasons the bookies in the back of our very illegal otv practice at "morning joe," that's why they put it at 58.5%. we're always hearing that le pen is -- we heard it leading up to the last presidential election, and she got absolutely crushed. there is no reason to believe this is going to be a 51% to 49% race. >> oh, my god, you nailed it. you literally nailed it. that was the first sound bite, april 12th. you predicted that number. that's not normal, joe. >> it's not normal. everybody was saying it was going to be close. of course, i talked to my bookies, and we -- >> who are your bookies, meatball? >> we spread them all across the left bank. tell them it's their responsibility to make contact with the very worst, the very worst of paris society, the dregs. jonathan lemire, they're the ones that came back to us. they told me 2 1/2 weeks

to be close to donald trump and an ally, donald trump's response, you're not real. you have at least an opponent and so many other opponents, we saw this actually play out on -- in michigan a couple of days ago. they're using qanon theories, accusing democrats who don't want to ban books of being groomers, of being part of a pedophilia cult. this lying is surreal. again, you look at the war in russia and on a massive scale you have had what is called fire hose of falsehoods coming from russia for years before the war. you see that disinformation. you see the disinformation that we've seen out of hungary on a different level in the past out of other parties in central europe, out of populous movements in brexit. even though, you know, i personally, you know, brexit, fine with me, but why did it pass? so much disinformation, so many lies, and that's the defining feature of donald trump's presidency and now we see it with kevin. we see it happening time and time again in republican races across the country where, mika, you actually -- you don't get support of a large c

when bush cut them in the 2000 it happened and when donald trump cut them it happened. this is not something unique to the trump administration, he's simply doing things here or did things here that have produced similar results others have done. >> i think even if not everything goes to the workers, there's a lot ofot evidence, hai of america are shareholders, owners of these companies and pensions are benefiting we press quite a bit on people's pensions during the trump administration and these are workers throughouk the economy. there was big debate wanted to hear your take on the bike back, can you talk about that? >> i don't get into that in the book, the buyback debate, i don't get into that, no. >> i think that was misguided a little bitat because the allocation of capitol, not investing in the company anda paid out to shareholders and they invest somewhere else for the company to invest. buybacks, doesn't mean it goes into investment, it just goes to a different investment from that company so i felt that was miss guided as well. aboutbasically talked obama year

we know that he held donald trump responsible. and we know that he turned around under pressure and gene you why flekted at trump's knee at mar-a-lago shortly after that and did absolutely nothing about january 6th. from the perspective of trump world this doesn't really change anything except kevin mccarthy is now taking a lot of abuse rather than donald trump or anybody else. >> but josh dausee, mccarthy's also getting the cavalry coming to his defense a little bit. we saw congresswoman ashley hinson tweeting that kevin mccarthy will be our speaker. nancy mace was on fox business earlier today saying she still supports mccarthy. walk us through the politics here within the republican party. how this will be viewed and whether they think this is going to be a topic that we'll all still be talking about in another week or two. >> well, it really depends, garrett. president trump, as others have said, has the most command of any others in the house gop caucus and his reaction, what he wants to be a large say whether kevin mccarthy

vance of yale is out there pretending he represents the little guy and trump, he hates donald trump and said he was maybe hitler. and none of that matters. they're all reflecting toward this man with no power currently and i wonder if you feel there is a missed opportunity to message the danger of these people taking over who will be trump's little hand puppets but the danger that poses that they actually don't care that he tried to over throw democracy. >> i think that is absolutely a big opportunity in messaging for the midterms, joy, because what we saw even the president said today, this isn't the party that we grew up with. this is party of maga and making that theme and outlining and replaying what republicans will do if they flip the house and retake power is critical. removing democrats from committees for no reason like false investigations and impeachment trials and hearings. like all of that needs to be replayed so that the public fully knows what they're up against because all this entire congress while democrats are trying to deliver for the public, republicans have been do

trump is that donald trump's loyalty has an expired by day. you change his mind, he's gone people under the bus repeatedly. if you get the sense that there is weakness with mccarthy, that he is in fact some kind of loser. if you think the base is turning against him, he could certainly pull his support. watch what happens with the conservative media, watch what happens with the hard-core maga caucus, the marjorie taylor greene's, the medicine hawthorne's, who would like to change the subject to something else when they come back into session next week. >> we are going to get to marjorie taylor greene inches the second, but nicholas, i want to ask you first, is there any political opportunity in all this for the democrats? >> that is certainly one of the central questions looming over what the committee is doing. the final report for this whole investigation could prompt a report by the midterm elections. the goal of the committees to mesquite would happened. the timing of that could have a major political impact, if the former president did br

that's what we were seeing under donald trump. i think it had a lot to do with the policies he put in place. and it's a story, again, that the press, by and large, refused to tell because they were so posed -- opposed to this president and did not want to present anything he did in a positive light. >> host: yes. so let me get to the substance of the book. you already alluded sort of to the main punchlines of it. i think, you know, i was and the team in the white h house was vy isolate. we didn't see the lack of discussion of these results because we essentially produced a lot of them throughout the administration's term. in particular, if thehe viewers are interested, there's something called the annual report of the council of economic advisers, the economic report of the president, that outlines a lot of the facts that riley, jason is basically discussing which he basically gets to in a much clearer way, i think, than we did sometimes. but it has some of the underlying facts if people are interested. so let me go to the book. i

that dictator, in our case, would be donald trump. and i think that, you know, where charles mudd and joyce, i think republicans in 2022 should have to answer for donald trump's conduct here, praising putin over and over, and asking for help. can any republican running for congress answer, are you fine with it? are you pro trump or are you pro america? because to me, there is no overlap. if you're pro donald trump, you are not a pro-american. you see a general who called russia an enemy. they are fighting a proxy war in ukraine. and trump has aided in comfort or enemy. -- let republicans ascent on the campaign in 2022. >> charles, let me go back to something you brought up, and that is republicans and all of this. republicans were, as you mentioned as well, you know, reportedly squirming when they heard about trump's request to putin. some rebuked him. most chose to stay silent. is there something republicans can do? what more should republicans do, given the fact that this is a party that by most accounts, it's totally lots its backb

he was going to suggest donald trump redesign. mccarthy called that totally false and wrong and his spokesman said that never happened. then the reporters release the audio and let's take a look. >> there are discussions, i think this will pass and it'll be my recommendation, that would be my take but i don't think he would take it. >> now the media is accusing the probable next speaker of the house of telling a falsehood because audio contradicts. >> i think it is hard to make a case, if you read the denials they were very assertive and saying the reporting from the new book was false. the reporting was they told other house members he intended to suggest that trump resigned. the audio released has him saying to liz cheney he is going to tell trump he added consider resigning were actually redesign they are trying to move the goalpost by congressman mccarthy saying i never told trump to resign, that was never the claim. howard: it didn't say that. >> exactly it is so cleared that he got caught lying. if you want to defend him, i

male: i voted for donald trump, and i'm gonna vote for him again. so is my wife. male: if i was forced to go vote, i would probably put my support behind trump and the republican party. david: fields of corn greet us in ohio. it's a wealthy state with an economy the size of some countries. trump needs ohio. no republican has ever been elected president without it. at edison, we stumble on what we thought was a virus-testing line. david: we're from australian tv. what are you guys doing? male: food pantry. david: oh, food pantry, is it? even in the heart of america's food basket, the local baptist church feeds between 2 and 3,000 people a month. female: we love jesus, so we just wanna do what needs to be done. female: amen. amen. david: trump's christian support is slipping, but not here. david: this trump country? female: it is. as you're driving around you're probably seeing lots of trump signs. there are some who aren't crazy about our p-o-t-u-s, but this gal loves donald trump. david: and you, ma'am? female: yes, sir. all the way. both: trump all

he says one thing to donald trump, goes down and gets on the floor, and condensed donald trump. condensed the insurrection, and then, joins around and literally, flies down to mar-a-lago took us donald trump's ring. he isn't a trustworthy person, not like i believe that republicans are trustworthy in the stage that they are in at this point, but he isn't, right? why would you give kevin mccarthy the gavel? but if you're choosing between mccarthy or jim jordan, i mean, my goodness! bless their heart, as david said earlier. that's what i'm thinking about their choices right now. >> joyce, mccarthy spokesperson denied that he told colleagues that he would urge trump to resign, of course, the audio was released, showing mccarthy did say just that. there is excuse me, there is no law against lying to the american people, or the press as a politician. but could this development have any impact on the january 6th investigation? on the januar y 6t >> well it certainly makes it clear that he has to testify. there's been so much opposition, or rather so much concern on the january six com

both of whom took to the floor to call out donald trump. >> there is no question, none. president trump is practically, and morally responsible for provoking the events of the day. no question about it. president trump is still liable for everything he did while he was in office. we have a criminal justice system in this country, we have civil litigation, and former presidents are not immune from being accountable by either one. >> the president bears responsibility for wednesday's attack on congress by mob rioters. >> he should have immediately denounced the mob, when he saw what was unfolding. these facts require immediate action from president trump. except his share of responsibility, quell the brewing unrest, and ensure that president elect biden is able to successfully begin his term. >> the president bears responsibility for wednesday's attack on congress by mob rioters. and while those words were these strongest public condemnation we saw of trump from republican leaders after the coup, and they have all largely changed their tone since, for some reason. a new bo

and if you look at it from donald trump's perspective, what donald trump, according to a lot of republicans i've spoken to, what he thinks is, look at what happened. these two men, mccarthy and mcconnell, both kind of flirted with throwing me overboard, but mccarthy is fully in my corner, and mcconnell has said he will support me if he -- if i am the next republican nominee for president. so, i think that's what they're focused on. and listen, to mcconnell's, i don't want to say credit, but most republican senators understand what mitch mcconnell thinks of donald trump. he won't even say the man's name. he won't talk about him. he did obviously vote against impeachment, so when it came time to put a vote to those theories and to those thoughts that he had, he did not do it. so, i think that i -- from what i see, standing here today at the end of april, election day is kind of far away and the next speaker election is very far away, what a lot of republicans i talk to think is that. they think that kevin mccarthy did not ultimately do what he said he was going to do, and furthermore, is the

everybody sees how donald trump. used these groups. guess what they used him too and long after donald trump is going to is gone. we are going to have a fascist extremist subculture of thousands and thousands of people in america who send out death threats all the time who telephone death threats who want to take over the us congress state legislatures like in lansing michigan county seats school boards across the country. that's what they've unleashed upon us. so i've unfortunately we're supposed to end now but one person has been standing there for that so final. yeah, okay, my brother and sister-in-law lost their 18 year old son in a car accident in his girlfriend. do you have any advice for those of us who love people in our lives who have lost a child and how we can help them and ways that we can be more of a help than a hindrance. well, i'm very sorry for your loss. where they are they in maryland or ohio in ohio? well, i'm very very sorry about that. and you know, we live in a time of trauma. i mean a million families have lost

we have 26 states that are voting for donald trump. so he is legitimately sees the presidency, and that could've led to anything from martial law to civil war the riots. who knows where he would've fled. >> i should note, jason miller, there's a bunch of texts on antifa. this is as this is happening saying, call me crazy, but ideas for two tweets for potus. bad apples, likely antifa or other agrees leftist, infiltrated today's peaceful protest over the fraudulent vote. you have marjorie taylor greene and louis gohmert echoing this as this was happening. on the marshall la front, i can tell how much -- would do you make about? how serious where the conversations? when you know about where they were? marjorie taylor greene is not just picking that phrase, incorrectly spelled as it is, out of a hat. >> there was a lot of rambling about martial law within the gop caucus. before january 6th. there were people writing things about how martial law is in fact been invoked multiple times throughout our history. and, if you look at what happened

is being evoked by donald trump again? of course not. this is donaldga trump. he's the guy literally last saturday night at a rally in georgia and he called vladimir putin smart. he called him smart while he's literally killing women and children. there's ain connection from january 6th and putin's attack on ukraine. both have the same goal. anti-democracy and install a dictator. and that dictator, in our case, would have been donald trump. and i think, you know, republicans of 2020 should have to answer for donald trump's conduct here, what he's doing over and over, and asking for help. have every republican member of congress answer for it, are you fine with it? are you w pro-putin or are you pro-america? are you pro-trump or are you pro-america? if you're pro-donald trump, you're not pro-american now. we're fighting a proxy war, and donald trump isar giving aid an comfort to our enemy. so, there's no overlap. you're either pro-trump or pro-united states of america. let republicans answer for that on the campaign trail i

or is this just more air from donald trump? >> look, donald trump is a serial liar. he is committed to dishonesty. that is why he has a january six. the january 6th committee has help in finding and publishing -- that is why he feels so threatened by the committee. in terms of the leader mccarthy for now, it does seem that trump is at peace with him. but i remind people, trump is somebody who demands absolute loyalty. not to the republican party, not even to his family, but to him. eventually he is going to find an excuse to lash out against leader mccarthy, the way he has against all people around him. so, just a word of caution for kevin mccarthy, who i know well, who have generally had a great relationship with for many years. this is a very difficult situation that he's in right now. >> i feel like he put himself in that situation. so there is no sympathy for me for him. as we revealed recently, don jr.'s was strategizing with mark meadows, ways to keep his -- in power. we know that don jr. is supposed to meet with the january six committee sometime in the upcomi

you had two members of donald trump's cabinet resign. you'd had three republican governors call for him to step down. the democrats are steaming towards the impeachment resolution that they eventually passed. and what you hear from kevin mccarthy there is clearly actually quite a bit of sympathy with at least the sentiments behind what the democrats are doing if not the exact measures they're taking. i think what we will reveal again and again in this book is the enormous gap between what people like kevin mccarthy will say about donald trump in public and to his face and what they actually think about him. >> and at that moment, they had in their grasp this idea they talked about throughout the trump presidency. even throughout the trump candidacy. how do we get rid of this guy? we detest him, despise him. that's what they say in private. >> yes. >> kevin mccarthy there. if he had moved enough people, ten people, ten house republicans ultimately voted to impeach the second time. if he made that number 30 or 40, if mcconnell had given th