. >> it st alexander payne who is one of my favorite directors and have i been desperate to work with him. >> stephen: the descendants, sideways, election. >> about schmilt, he has just-- he never made a movie that wasn't fantastic. and so he came to me with this idea b okay, so norwegian scientists found a way to shrink humans down to five inches in height and six percent of the global population decides to do this as a way to offset climate change and i just looked at him and i just didn't think he was being serious with me. i thought he was-- it was lake a test. but then he gave me this script that he and jim taylor, his cowriter had been working on. and they had it for ten years. and it was fantastic. and he described it to me as he wanted it to be a hal ashby movie with great special effects and that is really-- hal ashby was a brilliant film maker who made in the 1970s kind of in the wheelhouse of american cinema made some incredible movies and this movie to me feels like it is a giant sattire, feels like it could have been made in the '70s. i am enormously proud of it and would

really good movie directed by alexander payne who i think is one of our best filmmakers. >> so spielberg had that criticism a while back. everyone's making blockbusters and cg and everything else. is that changing at all now >> well, i don't know if it's changing. it's hard to figure out what's going on in the movie business but it does seem to happen that every spring and summer, people are complaining about the blockbusters and sequels and all the action movies and grown-up people are just more curious audience members do a lot to go and see. but then in the fall -- this happened last year you know when there was spielberg's own "lincoln" and "django" and "argo." this fall we have a ton of really interesting, good movies of all different kinds to see, from "gravity" to "12 years a slave" to "nebraska." so, it does seem like it's possible. i think it's hard sometimes for these movies to find a big enough audience. i think that's really the challenge. they do seem to get made. >> i surrender that i'll ever see a romantic comedy in the theater any time soon, but i want to ask you about th