ben carson, and the senior pastor of the new spirit revival center and ceo of the national diversity coalition for donald trump, reverend darryl scott. dr. carson, you see what is going on. you hear the rhetoric. some people don't want to even give cops any presumption of innocence. now we have 12 cops shot, five killed last night. your reaction? >> well, clearly we're going to need some leadership in this issue. we need people who can help facilitate communication between the two sides. we need understanding of what the other side thinks. we'll never solve the problem without that. but as an example, you know, i'm a surgeon. and, you know, there are a few bad apples in surgery. the vast majority of surgeons are wonderful. but what if we -- what if we always emphasized the horrible things that happened with those bad surgeons? everybody would be afraid to go to a surgeon. >> that's a really good analogy. most cops are great, and they put their lives on the line for us. and now we see, pastor, that, you know, in cities like baltimore where the cops in the freddie gray case, one after
