jeff toobin, do you really believe this has certainly ignited a debate about the death penalty, but these debates have been going on now in this country for decades. is this some sort of watershed event or change something? >> i don't think so support for the death penalty today is 60%. ten or 15 years ago, it was 70%. now that's down and a lot of change in the altitudes about the death penalty those do with the fact there is just less crime in the united states than there used to be. in the early '90s, there were about 300 death sentences every year. last year 112. in the early '90s, one year, 98 people are were executed, last year, 46 people were executed. all the numbers are heading in that direction, but the movement for the absolute abolition of the death penalty is not really that strong in this country. barack obama is for the death penalty, most major political figurers are for the death penalty, not as big a political issue as it once was but doesn't look like it is disappearing any time soon. >> a lot, jeff that this has taken 22 years since -- since the officer was killed, 1989