kevin tibbles in jerry ford's home congressional district. >> we heard carville and steve sch schmidt earlier. with 45% of the vote in, it's really tight, 48-47. we're keeping a very, very, very close eye on pennsylvania. a little less than two-thirds of the vote in, 65% of the vote in, in pennsylvania. hillary clinton does have a lead right now in pennsylvania. we also want to look at the other race that's outstanding right now in pennsylvania, which is the senate race in pennsylvania. this has been a really interesting one to watch thus far. pat toomey is the republican incumbent, very cagey about his support for donald trump or lack thereof. he waited until just over an hour closed in pennsylvania before he voted so he wouldn't have to admit publicly that he voted for trump. it's too close to call in pennsylvania. you see that small lead on behalf of the democratic challenger, kate eie mcginty wa chief of staff for wolf. this is too close to call. steve kornacki's keeping a very close eye on pennsylvania. >> clinton is leading in pennsylvania. the votes that have been counted. the

even the jerry ford thing, now we're talking about you don't get et majority of the first ballot so we go into the 1924 windy city or something like that. >> are you going to pick somebody who has gotten no votes from the republican voters. >> didn't even contest it. didn't try to get any votes. >> let's talk about it from the democratic point of view. what do you want to happen? >> that is like a win/win scenario. if donald trump is the nominee then he drives out democrats. he drives out the democratic base, but he also reimagines the map, like the entire electoral map is redrawn and you don't know whether pennsylvania is in play or other place, but if cruz is the nominee that's better for you because he's only going to be in play in the same republican states that were play before and he's bound not to do as well as mitt romney. >> we know what will happen. if donald trump is the nominee there will be people sitting on their hands on the at convention like this. and then all the women will -- women who read the newspaper, they're going to say that's the enemy of everything i stand fo

jerry ford twice. we almost lost ron reagan except for fantastic work by the secret service. we lost bobby kennedy, martin luther king. we lost -- >> and -- >> yeah. why would anybody think it is funny? it has to do with maybe second amendment people take care of her. >> it is not appropriate. there is a responsibility with being the nominee of one of the major political parties. you're one of two people. you have to take that seriously and taking that seriously means speaking in a calm, measured and appropriate tone and donald trump seems incapable of doing it in a sustained way. >> this is the pattern you mentioned a minute ago which is this pattern where every time trump speech there has to be a big clean up operation. you and i might remember this. back in '64 they said we shouldn't have to wait until saturday to find out what the republican candidate meant. that's what we are doing again. is that funny? it is the normal practice of trump. did he really say that? >> we have seen it whether it is john mccain, megan kelly. i'll say a rare word for goldwater. i thought he wa

jerry ford twice. we almost lost ron reagan except for fantastic work by the secret service. we lost bobby kennedy, martin luther king. we lost -- >> and -- >> yeah. why would anybody think it is funny? it has to do with maybe second amendment people take care of her. >> it is not appropriate. there is a responsibility with being the nominee of one of the major political parties. you're one of two people. you have to take that seriously and taking that seriously means speaking in a calm, measured and appropriate tone and donald trump seems incapable of doing it in a sustained way. >> this is the pattern you mentioned a minute ago which is this pattern where every time trump speech there has to be a big clean up operation. you and i might remember this. back in '64 they said we shouldn't have to wait until saturday to find out what the republican candidate meant. that's what we are doing again. is that funny? it is the normal practice of trump. did he really say that? >> we have seen it whether it is john mccain, megan kelly. i'll say a rare word for goldwater. i thought he wa

so hard for jerry ford. despite that we had this great transition and he said, president carter said, i think i and jerry ford in the end had the best friendship of any two ex-presidents in american history. that sounded extreme. best friendship. i went all of the way through american history and pretty hard to find two ex-presidents who got along better. >> michael beschloss and julie pace, thank you both. we'll be right back. xecutive prt marvel studios. we are very much hands on producers. if my office becomes a plane or an airport the surface pro is perfect, fast and portable but also light. you don't do 14 hours a day 7 days a week for decades if you don't feel it in your heart. listen i know my super power is to not ever sleep. that's it, that's the only superpower i have. >>> still to come, defeat and then disbelief. how do democrats restore their party to power and work with this new president? >> i want to show you something, mika. >> this might give you a clue. >> i want to show a picture from yest

ford and said we lost this time, but we're coming on in four years. the race for 2020, it is on tonight. cruz underscored 1976. >> we have to draw a line in the sand. sorry. sorry, we're limited. can't allow any discussion -- just kidding, robert. i'm kidding, robert. please finish your point. >> it is on. my point is that cruz is not running for 2020, but he's positioning for it, and the conservative movement did not win in this primary contest, but they're looking ahead. that's why he underscored '76, talked about kansas city. this was not about the republican party. it wasn't about donald trump. those things were rarely mentioned if at all. this was about the conservative movement and who's going to carry the baton in the years to come. >> chris, i would argue shades of ted kennedy madison square garden, dream endures. hope will never die. >> right. you know, bob strum's line. anyway, i do think this politics is dynamic. it is, and one thing leads to the next. will '76 be this year 2016, be seen as a year they have to get a bye, they have to wait f

. >> and it was jerry ford, 1976. the russians aren't in poland. >> yes they are. now it's the russians aren't in the withdrew crane. it was baffling. and take us through all of that. >> donald trump is facing criticism after his response to the parents of an american soldier killed in america. the parents of captain khan took to the stage at the dnc thursday night to condemn trump's proposals and statements about muslims. he said trump had sacrificed nothing and no one and questioned if he had even read the u. s. constitution. the trump campaign responded saying captain khan was a hero to our country. the real problem here are the radical islamic terrorists that killed him. but it didn't end there with both speaking with the sunday shows. >> what sacrifice have you made for your country? >> i made a lot of sacrifices. i work, very, very hard. i created thousands and thousands of jobs. tens of thousands of jobs, built great structures. >> those are sacrifices. >> sure. i think they're sacrifices. when i can employ thousands and thousands of people and take care of

i was there, as a really young man in 1976 when governor reagan tried to beat jerry ford. it worked out. as crazy as this year, and nobody in here that wouldn't say this is nuts, right, couldn't you think of anything cooler than a convention. i have to win. it's not impossible. i have to win. after i win ohio, i have to win 68% of the remaining delegates. marco has to win 64, and you know, ted is somewhere around 59 or 60. it's unlikely. >> now, tomorrow's speakers were supposed to be little marco and big donald, but one of those isn't coming any more. trump scheduled a rally in kansas, and this afternoon, ted cruz saw that as an opportunity to strike. >> so donald trump is skipping cpac. i think somebody told him megyn kelly was going to be here. or even worst, he was told there were conservatives that were going to be here. or even worst, he was told mthee were libtarians that were going to be here, or young people going to be here. none of you all have a degree from trump university. >> that's ted cruz really milking it out there. we're going to talk to the chairman of

. >> if jerry ford was president of the united states through a series of constitutional and he is president of the united states and he is. harry truman ended up president. when roosevelt died, he didn't imagine that would happen i don't think maybe did but do you ever think about it being presiden president? >> i do not. >> never thought about being president? >> i have not looked in the mirror every day. >> you have accepted a cabinet position. you've been elected and accept a point of position without any thought you may rise to the top job. >> chris, you know, i'm 12th in line in succession so if they ever get to me, something is really wrong. [ laughter ] >> i think you're a great guy so let me change the subject. okay. i'll get you off the hook. >> i have zero doubt she's going to make a very good decision for her vice president and that that person is going to do a fantastic job on the campaign trail and be well-qualified if he or she was needed to step in god for bid. >> okay. let's talk "hardball." there is somebody in that campaign told paul heelly, what's his name, i'll think of

. >> why did jerry ford say that europe was independent of russia? >> it had to be like a brain spasm. just he blanks. >> i heard he was briefed by a guy that briefed him said that he briefed him that the people don't see themselves as part of the russian world. >> see themselves as german or polish or whatever, but they definitely know the russians are there, okay? >> the tanks will roll. this is great fun. i hope the debates are as good as this. when we return, my election diary for september 20th. six days before the presidential debate is coming on this monday and seven weeks before the election. you're watching "hardball." the place for politics. e for he? is this really any better than the one you got last year? if we consolidate suppliers what's the savings there? so should we go with the 467 horsepower? or is a 423 enough? good question. you ask a lot of good questions... i think we shod move you into our newund. ok. sure. but are you asking enough about how your wealth is managed? wealth management, at charles schwab. ♪ ♪ ta on any road

you go back to 1976, everybody remembers '80, but mike, 1976, you know, jerry ford says that the soviets aren't dominating eastern europe, and max frankel said excuse me, and he repeeted it again. and ford, who was sort of seen as a bumbler, who was making an extraordinary comeback at that time, obviously, that's something that connected with americans. >> well, as tom pointed out, i mean, both he and i were in nashua for that -- i paid for this microphone moments, and debates, if nothing else, tom, if nothing else, they're a tribute to the power of the single moment and a single line by a single candidate. >> yeah, i'm the one who asked dan quayle the third question about whether he was prepared to be president if something happed. he then compared himself to john f. kennedy, and lloyd benson turned to him and said i knew john f. kennedy. he was a friend of mine. you'renone john kennedy. that got a lot of play. dan quayle still got elected, but a friend of mike's who was a friend of kennedy's called later and said we have gone through the files. i we don't think lloyd benson was a frien

. >> but jerry ford said governor reagan can't start world war iii, president reagan can: he was fall it had fashionest gun in the west. i mean, reagan was vilified pretty roundly by even the republican establishment. >> the other thing about reagan was from the beginning when he was running for the republican nomination for governor of california he was always congeni congenial. whatever he had to say, everybody had a kind of a he's our guy, friendly approach to him and he could do the every man thing better than anybody i'd ever seen. at the end of the recession, they had to do something so they sent him up to southie in boston, they sent him into a working man's bar, all irish southies and we thought he was going to get his head handed to him in there. 20 minutes later he emerges with a schooner of beer and all these guys around him cheering him because he could pull that off unlike anyone else. >> up like anyone else except maybe who we're talking about today. >> the same thing trump can do with evangelicals, for example, not his natural constituency, he misquotes the bible but ev

and jerry brown said i'll bring jesse jackson, caused him to lose in new york. it doesn't work, no reason to believe in this case it will work because already the math is working against cruz. >> let's talk a little bit about trump which ed says has been overshadowed by the fiorina pick. he's being criticized for lack of specifics and mixed messages. let's talk about what his message was successful in doing yesterday. fran francesca? >> yesterday he was successful at showing he could have a different side and be more presidential as the campaign has been saying he would do if he was the republican nominee. now, there are plenty of his critics saying that they don't like what he had to say yesterday about being more unpredictable. madeleine albright said when she finally did hear what donald trump had to say on foreign policy when he was reading off a teleprompter and tim cain as well said the same thing, they were almost more worried because he wasn't just shooting from the hip. he was actually giving prepared remarks yesterday. so he's had plenty of critics of

jimmy carter got the nomination and he beat gerald ford to win the presidency. jerry brown got to go back to california and the 30 something boyish governor of california and then later he would be governor all over again even when he was old. it all worked out for everybody. that is a reminder that primaries do get nuts. they get complicated, even the ones we have forgotten about and we have to look up in order to remember whether or not they were nuts, even the ones we have forgotten about, they're pretty nuts when you go back and look at them closely. right now on the republican side of the presidential race this year we have sort of just now stopped talking about the 2016 republican presidential primary as being somehow the nuttiest, the craziest republican primary ever. the republican primary is basically settled now. all this talk of the republicans having their first contested convention since 1976 that talk is over. today even the effort by some republican dead enders to try to find a third-party or independent challenger to donald trump today even that

. >> jerry ford's congressional district. and by the way, one point of clarification. at the bottom of the screen you might have seen under the breaking news banner reports of confusion at some caucus sites. that's a lot like saying an election broke out. we have no reason to believe these caucuses, party run, have had any crippling confusion or anything enough to soil tonight's result which we still wait on. another break. we'll be back from this trip right after this. man 1: [ gasps ] man 1: he just got fired. man 2: why? man 1: network breach. man 2: since when do they fire ceos for computer problems? man 1: they got in through a vendor. man 1: do you know how many vendors have access to our systems? man 2: no. man 1: hundreds, if you don't count the freelancers. man 2: should i be worried? man 1: you are the ceo. it's not just security. it's defense. bae systems. hey how's it going, hotcakes? hotcakes. this place has hotcakes. so why aren't they selling like hotcakes? with comcast business internet and wifi pro, they could be. just add a customized message to your