representatives from the fbi and ohm land security and the nsa and top rail security experts inside. the topic is how to make rail travel in this country more secure. >> we have catching up to do. reporter: steven lynch hosted the summit. >> like with the aviation security everybody in the world was ahead of us until 9/11 and then we caught up quickly fnlt we fnlt -- quickly. we are trying to avoid that process. >> 5 investigates put a spotlight on rail security. we showed you armed homeland security on patrol. we also showed you the train stations and intentionally wide open and no checkpoint and no security lines. with the rail attacks in madrid, london, russia and other countries it is quite likely to happen here too. >> if you look around the world there is an attack on rail. we would be advised to take heed of that. >> there are a lot of federal transportation grant money up for grabs and he is hopeful that a good portion can beef up rail security. karen anderson, 5 investigates. ed: the mbta is talking fare hikes as it prepares to axe the late night service. heather:and the sus