john connolly, phil gramm, you've had people in the past spend a lot of money and have nothing to show firt. i wonder whether anybody besides donald trump could pull this off, could get so much free media that you don't need spend all that money on ads. >> a good question. he's a master of this but, look, bernie sanders again has also been able to do without the big donor class. he's not needed them. i think to do it without -- >> but he's raised a lot of money. >> to do it without any money requires a special talent but the reason donald trump is winning in south carolina is he has expose this class divide within the gop built around wall street and immigration and trade and he said i'm going to actually speak up for what you see as your interests on these issues, these other guys will not. and that alone is a powerful message. >> i want to say again, i've brought this up several times, mika, this is a class divide that has been in republican politics since 1994. when we took over congress in 1994, our strongest socioeconomic group voting for us, people earning $50,000 and less. we we